The Cursed Heathen | Ivar the Boneless King of all Norsemen

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What’s up guys, its Ollie from History Profiles and today’s video will be on the Legendary Viking Warrior and King Ivar the Boneless. Today I will be taking you 9th Century Britain and Scandinavia otherwise known as the Viking age. It was a time for men of ambition, men of the sword and killers. In a time where the flames of war were ever apparent, only the strong and most cunning of warriors would be remembered for their deeds. Ivar was all of these things being the veteran of a hundred battles and the mastermind behind all his army’s victories, this is his story.

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  • I’ve always like the theory that boneless referred to how agile in combat he was. That it seemed he had no bones.

    @tfstuff@tfstuff2 жыл бұрын
    • This is precisely the way I always interpreted it. It could not have been an affliction of sorts because men would not have followed a man that was not favored by the Gods.

      @wyoguy9720@wyoguy97202 жыл бұрын
    • @@wyoguy9720 the thing is tho he wasn't considered "not favored by the gods" but actually he was "favored" because even though he had weak bones he was still able do things thought to be impossible for him so when you think about it the fact he could do seemingly impossible things like take on full grown men as a child just shows he was "favored"

      @lilozzeyfuego@lilozzeyfuego2 жыл бұрын
    • @@lilozzeyfuego I appreciate your view, but I don’t agree. Norse Paganism had/has many superstitions. If he truly did have weak bones, he wouldn’t have been able to do the things he did. We will never really know.

      @wyoguy9720@wyoguy97202 жыл бұрын
    • @@wyoguy9720 yeah we will never know its just a theory for if his bones where realy weak and on top of that as far as I know he was the most tactical of all his brothers when it came to battle that had to help build a following for sure

      @lilozzeyfuego@lilozzeyfuego2 жыл бұрын
    • It was bad translation why he was called boneless the english called him bean or something and cause bad translation they taught they called him boneless or the danes told that about him and the english didnt translate it good

      @delanovanraalte3186@delanovanraalte31862 жыл бұрын
  • I can just imagine how scary a sight of 400 Viking ships must have been.

    @chairde@chairde2 жыл бұрын
    • Game over 😂

      @teaincrumpets8456@teaincrumpets84562 жыл бұрын
    • They got dealt with eventually & denounced their own gods in fear of Christ.

      @THISISLolesh@THISISLolesh2 жыл бұрын
    • @@THISISLolesh it was not due to their “fear of Christ”

      @mauzervuk5612@mauzervuk56122 жыл бұрын
    • Kinda like watching the Normandy landings from a pillbox i guess

      @siamihari8717@siamihari87172 жыл бұрын
    • @@mauzervuk5612 They knew weak little Odin was no match. Beaten spiritually, physically and mentally by a sickly Alfred. Viqueens only tough attacking monks.

      @THISISLolesh@THISISLolesh2 жыл бұрын
  • It's like having a friend named tiny who is 6'8 and weighs 300 pounds. Ivar the boneless was probably a monster with the agility of Barry Sanders.

    @shayorestad5444@shayorestad54442 жыл бұрын
    • For sure straight killing machine The Hulu show really ruined it for me 😂

      @yeahyeahyeahwhat6271@yeahyeahyeahwhat6271 Жыл бұрын
    • Average vikings were 5'7" with tall skeletons found in Sweden being 5'9" People were much shorter during the dark age. Maybe he was considered a giant at 5'10".

      @NoToBigBro@NoToBigBro Жыл бұрын
    • @@NoToBigBro *me being 5'10 💪💪

      @fancyhat6505@fancyhat6505 Жыл бұрын
    • @@NoToBigBro the average American height right now is 5’9 That’s doesn’t mean there isn’t taller people 😂

      @yeahyeahyeahwhat6271@yeahyeahyeahwhat6271 Жыл бұрын
    • @@yeahyeahyeahwhat6271 Sounds like you've completely missed my point. People were much smaller back then. 6'8" back then would be equivalent of 7foot today. When everyone is undernourished, there will be smaller outliers on the upside. You are comparing American height to viking height... Viking were one race/ethnicity. American have all races/ethnicity. Of course there will be greater outliers in American height compared to average.

      @NoToBigBro@NoToBigBro Жыл бұрын
  • Ivar the Boneless - One of the most misunderstood person that even a so called documentary got it wrong. 1. Aslaug was Ragnar's first wife and Ivar was his eldest son. He had to be if Ragnar had to break marriage vows to conceive Ivar. This aspect is at the least told correctly in the Last Kingdom series book. 2. No he was not impotent. He had sons who ruled from Dublin and another branch which ruled Hebrides and another in Strathclyde. The History Channel series made the father of three kingdoms impotent..... Wow. 3. At this point I don't need to even say it..... Rollo was not Ragnar's brother. He was his descendant through Bjorn. 4. He was called Ivar the Cruel in his time. Welsh monks who wrote about (Mostly Asset) gave him the name Exosus which meant Cruel. Years later when the Normans came all they knew was vulgar Latin and mistook it for ex osus which meant without bones. Now there were stories about Norse chief who by his old age had become so decrepit that he had his servants bring him to battle on his shield. This story was crafted into Ivar. And this was born Ivar the man incapable of walking. Naturally the rest followed

    @caniblmolstr4503@caniblmolstr4503 Жыл бұрын
    • Very interesting, that makes a lot of sense especially "No.4" but I want to knwo where you got it from I wanna read more of it, by your explanation it all makes so much sense

      @xvor_tex8577@xvor_tex8577 Жыл бұрын
    • @@xvor_tex8577 Asser's Anglo-Saxon chronicles, Storri Sturlisson's writings, the History of Ui Imar (meaning sons of Ivar)... There are various sources... Asser and Snorri are the most accurate though. Alfred wanted everything written down maybe because he feared his own race maybe pushed out like his race had to the Britons. There are also serious doubts as to whether the reported sons of Ragnar were really brothers. It seems to me like a patriarch story forged to create common ancestry. Like how the tribe of Manasseh and Ephraim were written into the Israel's history or how later the Edomites were too. Ivar has a different father in Irish texts. My Hypothesis is Sigurd, Ubba and Hafdan were the sons. Ivar was Sigurd's commander who was promised independence if Aella was killed

      @caniblmolstr4503@caniblmolstr4503 Жыл бұрын
    • You’re the MAN! My family is Uí Ímair. My surname is McCaffrey, which means Son of Gofraidh or in Norse Gudrodr. Gofraidh was Ímair father. Ímair is Ivar the Boneless. Ivar was most likely tall and cruel just like you said. I love it! Im not so sure about Ragnar Lothbrok being his pops, but Ivar is my Great Grandpa many times over. My family still lives where Ivar died as an older man, in North Western Fermanagh County near BallyMcCaffrey. And the even crazier, or weirder, part is that my Moms descendants also had a McCaffrey from Donegal and her surnames Scottish clan lived in Dumbarton Castle when Ivar raided it. I’m almost extra Ivar.

      @uiimairgrandchildrenofivar5894@uiimairgrandchildrenofivar5894 Жыл бұрын
    • @@uiimairgrandchildrenofivar5894 LOL... Ivar had another son Sigthroth I believe rule over Lothian (the area you mentioned) so probably it is that line. Anyways glad to finally see proof that Ivar was not really boneless😝😝

      @caniblmolstr4503@caniblmolstr4503 Жыл бұрын
    • @@caniblmolstr4503 I forgot to mention that on the surname map of old Ireland, the McCaffrey clans neighbor directly to the north is……….McIvar!

      @uiimairgrandchildrenofivar5894@uiimairgrandchildrenofivar5894 Жыл бұрын
  • Well the one thing we know is the Boneless did not mean impotent because his grandsons and great grandsons ruled in York and Dublin long after Ivar died.

    @BarTGila@BarTGila2 жыл бұрын
    • Ah, not that type of boneless, then....

      @Asgard2208@Asgard22082 жыл бұрын
    • I was actually just fixin to ask that question…. Umm 🤔 if he had any kiddo’s

      @roolenoir3183@roolenoir31832 жыл бұрын
    • kzhead.info/sun/YLWzoN2bmWhtmok/bejne.html

      @shaqatwinters3180@shaqatwinters31802 жыл бұрын
    • I read that he had no children because of the way he was.

      @lynetteandersen6711@lynetteandersen6711 Жыл бұрын
    • Who says those were ACTUALLY his children?

      @Anne-pv9cb@Anne-pv9cb Жыл бұрын
  • Another theory of his nickname I've seen is that his actual nickname is supposed to be "The Godless" due to how he treated Christians, but there was a mistranslation.

    @calexander7495@calexander74952 жыл бұрын
    • Yes that makes a lot of sense thank you for watching!

      @historyprofiles@historyprofiles2 жыл бұрын
    • Well he will be called godless if he don't believe in Christian god's ofcourse..but he wasn't godless right . He literally belived in Norse god's .. it's all broken history told by various people. No one knows who he was unless u go back in time and talk to him

      @dopekartistaddictionofart7837@dopekartistaddictionofart78372 жыл бұрын
    • U might even sympathize with hitler or any other evil incarnate person if u know him personally as they are evil in other eyes or it's just history more twisted by the one who write about them

      @dopekartistaddictionofart7837@dopekartistaddictionofart78372 жыл бұрын
    • @@dopekartistaddictionofart7837 hitler was one of the few people wich where evil but germany in ww1 was just a side not evil or good britian the same with napoleon the same as ww1 just 2 sides fighting each other no good or bad

      @delanovanraalte3186@delanovanraalte31862 жыл бұрын
    • @@delanovanraalte3186 your point?

      @dopekartistaddictionofart7837@dopekartistaddictionofart78372 жыл бұрын
  • After a long journey when people would arrive at the destination they would be told to come in and rest their bones. I'm listening to your accounts on igar it seems to me that the man never rested ever. He was constantly on the go fighting or trying to win battles therefore he never rested his bones hence being called Ivar the boneless. Just another thought. For the reasoning of why he was given this nickname.

    @richardguskey7646@richardguskey76462 жыл бұрын
    • Very good theory Richard! Thank you so much for watching I hoe you enjoyed it!

      @historyprofiles@historyprofiles2 жыл бұрын
    • "He came to rest his bones" I thought that meant, "He died".

      @KingSebbz@KingSebbz2 жыл бұрын
    • @@KingSebbz Nah, people have used that phrase in literature ect for a long time "Come rest your weary bones by the fire" etc

      @bulkvanderhuge9006@bulkvanderhuge90062 жыл бұрын
    • Eivar, ivar I think dude not igar or whatever

      @ashlykuhn2220@ashlykuhn22202 жыл бұрын
    • @@bulkvanderhuge9006 My grandmother and grandfather who lived their lives in the rural areas of Romania used this expression too.

      @user-zg3gh8xg9v@user-zg3gh8xg9v2 жыл бұрын
  • No one will forget the name of Ivar the boneless!!!

    @Caesar_1415@Caesar_1415 Жыл бұрын
  • Vikings got me hooked on Ivar the Boneless. Would love to play a video game based completely around Ivars’ story and accomplishments.

    @chrisjw2895@chrisjw28952 жыл бұрын
    • Assassin's Creed Valhalla had him in it allot

      @graveborn-@graveborn-2 жыл бұрын
    • AC Valhalla ultimately portrays him as a liar and betrayer.

      @sirrejniak@sirrejniak2 жыл бұрын
  • I personally like to think he did had some kind of fragile bone disease because despite of his "crippling curse" and how they might have seen him as weak for it he pushed to conquer it and he wouldn't even let a curse stop him from greatness. To me that shows his determination and hardcore spirit even more and also makes sense that he used his brains more than brawn.

    @HravnOdinsson01@HravnOdinsson012 жыл бұрын
    • It was said that he was taller than most men and he could jump over a man’s head. So doubt he had weak bones. Js

      @jasonallen8335@jasonallen83352 жыл бұрын
    • @@jasonallen8335 I read they found bones of a 9ft tall viking believed to be Ivar.

      @kaarthuisplus@kaarthuisplus2 жыл бұрын
    • It's not rational that handicapped man would be so reveered and feared in such a physically strong culture. Maybe butttt...i think it's more Ruthless than boneless but either//or just as cool

      @robertcorner3160@robertcorner31602 жыл бұрын
    • He wasn't crippled. He would have been left in the woods to die if he was born a cripple. They didn't keep the weak around in those days.

      @dubiousdevil9572@dubiousdevil9572 Жыл бұрын
    • I think you only believe that because you watched vikings lol

      @inkognito3145@inkognito3145 Жыл бұрын
  • Do you know who i am! You can’t kill me! I am Ivar the Boneless!!!

    @ajmmohab4792@ajmmohab47922 жыл бұрын
    • What else could be in his body or stronger than bone in his body?

      @emmanuelimumolen8660@emmanuelimumolen86602 жыл бұрын
  • My best friend's father had cerebral palsy, and everyone said that he could run on crutches when he a young man. In his later years he needed a wheelchair, but was still deceptively strong. His upper body and arm strength would blow your mind, man. When he was in his 60's he could still drag himself him around with his hands with quite a bit of speed, just like Ivar The Boneless done in the Viking TV series. With that said, if the legends of Ivar The Boneless are true, I feel like he more than likely had cerebral palsy.

    @ojmcclanahan689@ojmcclanahan6892 жыл бұрын
    • Nonsense, that’s not possible in battle. Being weak like that in a constant era of way is impossible to survive. Boneless was probably an attestment to his cruel nature

      @olafharoldsonnii4713@olafharoldsonnii47132 жыл бұрын
    • It was E.D.S. a genetic disorder. Awesome story:) thank you for sharing

      @LDuke-pc7kq@LDuke-pc7kq2 жыл бұрын
    • @@olafharoldsonnii4713 I have to disagree. I would never just perceived someone to be weak based on their physical perception. Take a person who is crippled for example. If hundreds of people are waging war, standing toe to toe with shields and swords, they aren't going to be paying much attention to the ground. The cripple could crawl though with a blade, belly to the ground like a snake and systematically bring down countless enemies and do it with ease because, much like you, people underestimate handicapped people. Human beings are profoundly dangerous creatures. It doesn't matter if they're handicapped, it doesn't matter if they're a 100 lb woman, or even a child. Never underestimate anyone.

      @ojmcclanahan689@ojmcclanahan6892 жыл бұрын
    • @@ojmcclanahan689 Fantasy.

      @THISISLolesh@THISISLolesh2 жыл бұрын
    • @@THISISLolesh Which aspect is fantasy and How do you know as such?

      @ojmcclanahan689@ojmcclanahan6892 жыл бұрын
  • I don’t understand how Vikings didn’t finish ivars saga like this

    @WGasmss@WGasmss2 жыл бұрын
    • Ik they should have had it end with him sailing to Ireland

      @childeaterieatkidz4208@childeaterieatkidz42082 жыл бұрын
    • Same... I felt they didn't nurture it as it should have been and gave him a pointless death by some guy and he didn't defend himself LIKE WOW George Hirst...

      @missredherring1753@missredherring17532 жыл бұрын
    • Probably because Vikings bwas based around Ragnar and I think they lost alot of views after he died even tho I think season 6 was great

      @rhzyo@rhzyo2 жыл бұрын
    • Or the 10 years of ragnars gone!!!big Story!!!!!!

      @ErtugrulBey2.0@ErtugrulBey2.02 жыл бұрын
    • @@missredherring1753 his death was actually epic in my opinion, the guy was scared to kill him and ivar basically ordered him to kill him because he was in a lot of pain because of his curse

      @magahp7083@magahp70832 жыл бұрын
  • To an extent, I am glad the “Viking” show has brought attention to Ivar. I grew up idolizing Ivar, hearing his stories in the sagas my mother used to read to me. A true hero. Valhalla Ivar, feast well in the great halls.

    @Myancestorsheathen@Myancestorsheathen Жыл бұрын
    • Pretty decent show

      @stonebay2111@stonebay2111 Жыл бұрын
    • @@stonebay2111 An extremely well acted show, just little-to-none is historically accurate.

      @kimberlyh.5023@kimberlyh.50234 ай бұрын
    • ​@@kimberlyh.5023The shows creators said they took many liberties in order to make it a show but that they also tried to tried to stay true in certain events and time lines.

      @srh361@srh36114 күн бұрын
  • There is a movie about Ivan the boneless. It is hard to imagine anyone more wicked than Ginghis Khan, as strong as Hannibal or as cunning as the Kharzars, but Ivan was right up there with them.

    @tigerscott2966@tigerscott2966 Жыл бұрын
    • What movie?

      @codbtxh8824@codbtxh8824 Жыл бұрын
    • @@codbtxh8824 I believe he had a spot in _Hammer of the Gods._

      @iyeetsecurity922@iyeetsecurity92211 ай бұрын
  • Amazing presentation as always. Live these series. Thank you 🙏

    @Ortega570@Ortega5702 жыл бұрын
  • This was a very interesting video! I really only know of Ivar from Bernard Cornwell's Saxon novels. It was great to get more context for such an impotant character and historical figure. Great work!

    @robertearhart4316@robertearhart43162 жыл бұрын
  • Vikings history is always fascinating! I love it! Your pronunciation is really great Ollie. Thank you for another awesome work video!

    @ELKE-@ELKE-2 жыл бұрын
    • Thank you so much for watching ELKE!

      @historyprofiles@historyprofiles2 жыл бұрын
    • @@historyprofiles Thank you! You're most welcome!

      @ELKE-@ELKE-2 жыл бұрын
  • Another great video...as usual!! I'm really enjoying the comment section, and all the various theories as to how Ivar got his nickname.

    @Terri_MacKay@Terri_MacKay2 жыл бұрын
  • I heard this dude was a absolute beast in combat. Ive always been fascinated with viking culture and i feel like is byname is VERY appropriate. "Boneless", i feel is due to him basically having incredible agility. He was also very strong and intelligent, which are 2 important things to have in a time like this, but ivars best quality was his agility, his finesse. Even with his flaws he was a force of nature. He was the true prototype for Ali's saying "float like a butterfly, sting like a bee".

    @Wicked061@Wicked0612 жыл бұрын
    • So I take it from your profile icon and name that you're a fellow Berserk fan?

      @hernehaugen6878@hernehaugen6878 Жыл бұрын
  • I've told numerous people about this channel definitely one of my favorites very well done

    @hadenmoody1423@hadenmoody14232 жыл бұрын
    • Thank you so much Haden! It really means a lot! There is more content coming soon!

      @historyprofiles@historyprofiles2 жыл бұрын
  • I don't know how this channel doesn't have more subscribers, but I do know that I can't wait to watch it hit 1,000,000 and then some! Keep up the awesome work Ollie! 😊

    @felonious_c@felonious_c2 жыл бұрын
    • The poor delivery in the previous videos.

      @multipletanksyndrome@multipletanksyndrome2 жыл бұрын
    • I agree

      @joroche2948@joroche29482 жыл бұрын
    • Thank you so much! It means a lot!

      @historyprofiles@historyprofiles2 жыл бұрын
  • Ivar had E.D.S. a genetic disorder of the collagen that makes joints hyper mobile; being tall and dying of heart issues suddenly is not uncommon with this disorder on its own or with comorbid associations like Marfan's. E.D.S. also explains both he could possess both athleticism in battle and also his need for a chariot / other noted accommodations at times. It is genetic and his lineage shares this 'curse' , I hope this helps everyone learn more about E.D.S. and Ivar the Boneless

    @LDuke-pc7kq@LDuke-pc7kq2 жыл бұрын
    • This theory has always made sense to me as well. Marfan's runs in my family, mostly mild. My daughter can seem "boneless" because she can bend her joints way beyond normal range. Her hands and fingers especially. Her knees and elbows can appear to bend a bit backward. Genealogical research through British records points to Ivar being our 37th great uncle.

      @anntares172@anntares1722 жыл бұрын
    • My son has E.D.S and my great grandfather did as well. They both would pass out a lot because of heart issues. We didn't realize my great grandfather had it until my son was diagnosed and it all clicked.

      @little78lucky@little78lucky2 жыл бұрын
    • Do tall people die of heart issues due to getting too much bad attention and subsequent heart breaks. Think about it, tall people are favoured but if only crappy individuals and relationships happen then u get heart broken….so we can also assume nervous / anxious pressure on the heart is increased with height since tall people get more attention.

      @IceDogXena@IceDogXena2 жыл бұрын
    • Seriously...did u go bk in time to diagnose him

      @ashlykuhn2220@ashlykuhn22202 жыл бұрын
    • I’ve heard this theory elsewhere (in literature, not just discussions) and it seems like a good one. I have EDS. We start out strong, incredibly flexible (boneless) and become riddled with pain (and ferocity). Sometimes we can walk, sometimes we need assistance. The sudden death makes sense too. Aortic dissection maybe? It all adds up. Thanks for making this comment! :)

      @candacecurry1584@candacecurry1584 Жыл бұрын
  • Great video, thank you.

    @Fer-De-Lance@Fer-De-Lance2 жыл бұрын
  • His nickname possibly meaning "The Hated" reminds me of when I looked into my family background. My family is a Scottish family that has a lot of Davids and Michaels and one of them was called "David The Devil" I was thinking "Holy shit he probably got that name during a battle or something!!" turns out, he was a drunken asshole...

    @KingDaveth@KingDaveth2 жыл бұрын
    • I'm related to McQueens. Him and his brothers plotted assassination on the Scottish king. One of them ratted and the rest were sent to America to become slaves. Around that time Washington was getting shit turned around for the revolution. He was a spy in the secret spy organization He fought along side Washington even . His job was to help free slaves for the revolution. Yes there were still slaves then. Washington had slaves but they were free men. He only called them slaves to help save them.

      @jaketimble9393@jaketimble93932 жыл бұрын
    • He also rode in the boat along side Washington. Have the recordings of this shit

      @jaketimble9393@jaketimble93932 жыл бұрын
    • Ditto and 23 and Me is your friend if you’re the Real Deal! 😂

      @chrissearer1896@chrissearer18962 жыл бұрын
    • most scots are🤣🤣

      @johnfisher697@johnfisher6972 жыл бұрын
    • U wish

      @ashlykuhn2220@ashlykuhn22202 жыл бұрын
  • Just recently found your channel & subbed immediately! Great content & presentation! Keep it up your channel is gonna blow up soon!

    @blazethealaskanmalamute4633@blazethealaskanmalamute46332 жыл бұрын
  • Been waiting on this one 🤌🏽

    @trapz8501@trapz85012 жыл бұрын
    • Hope you enjoyed !

      @historyprofiles@historyprofiles2 жыл бұрын
  • Great video, great work!

    @billmurray1431@billmurray1431 Жыл бұрын
  • Best channel. I always learn something new and feel like I am transported back in time.🤗

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    • Thank you so much Deb! Im so happy you are enjoying the videos! There is more coming soon!

      @historyprofiles@historyprofiles2 жыл бұрын
  • Excellent Work as Always, My Dear Sir! Luv when U drop a video❤️So Interesting and Never Boring 🤘💙

    @nicolevarnam2290@nicolevarnam22902 жыл бұрын
    • Thank you so much Nicole!!!

      @historyprofiles@historyprofiles2 жыл бұрын
    • @@historyprofiles 💙🤘

      @nicolevarnam2290@nicolevarnam22902 жыл бұрын
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    @alphonsusseketa6679@alphonsusseketa66792 жыл бұрын
  • Excellent content sir

    @andrebastos5635@andrebastos56352 жыл бұрын
  • Maybe it was Boneless because he never broke any in all the battles he was in.

    @mikehunt4797@mikehunt47972 жыл бұрын
    • Never fell off a rollercoaster and broke every bone in his body 🤔

      @MU-oi1su@MU-oi1su2 жыл бұрын
    • @@MU-oi1su He drank his milkies and ate his veggies :D

      @KingDaveth@KingDaveth2 жыл бұрын
  • Interesting and fascinating but also very disturbing!! Thank you Ollie!!!

    @vampirequeen953@vampirequeen9532 жыл бұрын
    • Thank you so much for watching!!

      @historyprofiles@historyprofiles2 жыл бұрын
    • @@historyprofiles You are more than welcome 🥰🥰

      @vampirequeen953@vampirequeen9532 жыл бұрын
  • I really like your channel lots of neat stuff to listen to when I’m working 🤗

    @north1984@north1984 Жыл бұрын
  • I love history and this channel

    @josehg570@josehg5702 жыл бұрын
  • a name like this could mean anything from impotence, to being double jointed. I think the most logical explaination with what we know and what he accomplished is that he was likely double jointed and in medevil times this would translate to boneless. It would also allow him to do all the things physically he has been accoutned for.

    @JohntechFL@JohntechFL2 жыл бұрын
  • It's usually difficult for a son to be great if his father was great. Sigurd slew the dragon and Ragnar became a legend and he was great and he made his son's great by becoming captured and killed he knew that his son's would unite to avenge him.

    @albertberto5276@albertberto5276 Жыл бұрын
    • Sigurd was Ragnars wife's dead father

      @billharvey9959@billharvey9959 Жыл бұрын
    • ​@@billharvey9959 no no in real life Sigurd was ragnars father

      @childeaterieatkidz4208@childeaterieatkidz4208 Жыл бұрын
  • It's amazing how brutal these old timers were.

    @daveat191@daveat1912 жыл бұрын
    • That unforgiving cold weather is what ironically forced Vikings to go on raids. Ain’t nobody was about to give them sh*t. Not even the so called Christians of their day. Last thing you want is an already powerful enemy healthy and even more powerful.

      @the2ndcoming135@the2ndcoming135 Жыл бұрын
  • I love Ragnar and his children. True warriors

    @Soopro88@Soopro882 жыл бұрын
    • Do you mean also true bloodthirsty subhuman apes ?

      @salonez91@salonez912 жыл бұрын
    • @@salonez91 …?

      @mauzervuk5612@mauzervuk56122 жыл бұрын
    • @@salonez91 Odakle si ?

      @mauzervuk5612@mauzervuk56122 жыл бұрын
    • @@mauzervuk5612 nebitno skroz

      @salonez91@salonez912 жыл бұрын
    • @@salonez91 ne slažem se

      @mauzervuk5612@mauzervuk56122 жыл бұрын
  • To be extremely flexible in battle would make an onlooker think him boneless...

    @therondennis9572@therondennis95722 жыл бұрын
  • I believe they were talking about his flexibility. Someone with brittle bones couldn't swing an axe.

    @roman8747@roman87472 жыл бұрын
    • There are various types. I have it it has never stopped me swinging an axe or felling trees my dude.

      @Reverendshot777@Reverendshot7772 жыл бұрын
    • @@Reverendshot777 well that's very cool for you, can you box to or do M.M.A. without something breaking?

      @roman8747@roman87472 жыл бұрын
    • @@Reverendshot777 can you swing an axe in a battle the way they did back then and take shots from them back?

      @roman8747@roman87472 жыл бұрын
    • The brittle bones were in his legs the upper body compensates and becomes stronger if he's crawling around around he's building upper muscles. If you ever see a paraplegic in a manual wheelchair notice how buff and strong their upper bodies are.

      @dianemalloy2890@dianemalloy2890 Жыл бұрын
    • wasn't his preferred weapon the longbow?

      @CrimsonAlice@CrimsonAlice Жыл бұрын
  • Great show

    @shanebattles6132@shanebattles61322 жыл бұрын
  • Great channel !

    @duncanmchenry8126@duncanmchenry81262 жыл бұрын
    • Thank you for watching! And thank you so much Duncan it means a lot!

      @historyprofiles@historyprofiles2 жыл бұрын
  • Some truly fine Points, and quite honestly, the Norsemen were extremely well known for their Satcastic, as well as Oddball Names. Given the limited writings though, after such lengthy periods, I'm greater inclined to abide the consistency of him being carried into battle by his Men upon a Shield, as well as utilizing Bow and long range weapons, that there more likely was some deficits, to whatever degree though sufficient enough to have completely resulted in him being oesteracized from their Culture. I feel only for his youthful aptitudes and an unparalleled malevolence that accompanied his lesser mobile self, somehow eventually garnered the ruling wield that would be hard matched, if at all

    @deezrealityofreality6136@deezrealityofreality61362 жыл бұрын
  • Can’t eat whilst listening to this. Fasting for today.

    @Agapy8888@Agapy88882 жыл бұрын
  • I’ve heard of counts that he was called boneless because he had no decent bone in his body

    @iveBENgaming@iveBENgaming2 жыл бұрын
    • Thank you for watching!

      @historyprofiles@historyprofiles2 жыл бұрын
  • Ivar has always intrigued me, some stories say he was carried into battle due to his brittle bones. But we will never know

    @TB-dy2lb@TB-dy2lb2 жыл бұрын
    • kzhead.info/sun/YLWzoN2bmWhtmok/bejne.html

      @shaqatwinters3180@shaqatwinters31802 жыл бұрын
  • You forgot to mention the theory that he may have simply been impotent

    @-BeFree-@-BeFree-2 жыл бұрын
    • Thank you for mentioning that! And thank you so much for watching!

      @historyprofiles@historyprofiles2 жыл бұрын
    • wasn't impotency i'm a descendant lol

      @jackbutler1955@jackbutler19552 жыл бұрын
    • He had several children so it wasn't that. I suspect, given his cunning and sharp wits in battle (as well as his utter hatred for Christianity) he was probably likened unto a,or possibly THE Serpent by the Christians (and we know how they hate snakes!). Could also be a reference to his speed and agility - young children, no matter how big or strong they are..? can fight a grown man, let alone a Viking warrior w/strength alone...

      @Sidragrosm@Sidragrosm2 жыл бұрын
    • @@Sidragrosm No one in that era would have used "boneless" as an allusion to "snake" or "serpent." Ivar's brother was called Sigurd Snake-in-the-Eye, not Sigured Boneless-Thing-In-the-Eye.

      @RockandrollNegro@RockandrollNegro2 жыл бұрын
    • @@RockandrollNegro Admittedly, I was kinda spit-balling that one - but all the other "explanations..?" don't exactly make sense. (and I was referring to the Christians of that time, not the Vikings - They thought *EVERYTHING* was Satanic...) Oh for a Norse Rosetta Stone...

      @Sidragrosm@Sidragrosm2 жыл бұрын
  • I love that there are documentaries of my direct ancestors. Just recently found my families direct blood connections to Ivar!

    @thomascanant9142@thomascanant9142 Жыл бұрын
    • How ?? They have never fundet Ivars grave ?so how can you tell , but anyway , there is alot og people mening they All Are decentens of ragner

      @larshansen4557@larshansen45572 ай бұрын
  • I love that you talk of the shows valahalha great show

    @shanebattles6132@shanebattles61322 жыл бұрын
  • Just maybe early on in his career as a Viking he de boned his enemies to strike absolute terror in all who would dare to fight him. Just a thought gruesome if you think about it.

    @davidmasi4682@davidmasi46822 жыл бұрын
    • Yes thats a good theory David! Thank you so much for watching!

      @historyprofiles@historyprofiles2 жыл бұрын
  • Boneless also means no morals. Some say “I felt blissful down to my bones”, “ I feel it in my bones”. This refers to essence, deep within, instinct, etc. Ivar the boneless was probably so cold and ruthless and a deceptive, evil man. He wasn’t a fox but a blood thirsty weasel bent on punishing, torturing and killing Old English Christians … to avenge his father.

    @IceDogXena@IceDogXena2 жыл бұрын
  • I love it! Please keep doing these historical warrior videos, they’re awesome & your bread an butter imho.

    @brodyberry6253@brodyberry62532 жыл бұрын
  • Thank you for your research and we'll org presentation of it

    @jonathanturek5846@jonathanturek58462 жыл бұрын
    • Thank you for watching Jonathan !!

      @historyprofiles@historyprofiles2 жыл бұрын
  • I've Come To Enjoy Hearing Tales About The Vikings. They Were So Interesting, Despite All The Violence. I Won't Judge Them Because, After All, They Were Men Of Their Times. If I Had To Guess, I Would Say He Was Called 'Boneless' Because, Maybe To His Enemies, He Didn't Appear To Them To Be Human (With A Soul). Just My Guess. But Thanks For Entertaining Us - With Another Great Story!

    @rebeccalee1065@rebeccalee10652 жыл бұрын
    • Thank you so much for watching Rebecca! And thats a good theory!!!

      @historyprofiles@historyprofiles2 жыл бұрын
    • Why would you judge them???

      @ashlykuhn2220@ashlykuhn22202 жыл бұрын
    • @@ashlykuhn2220 READ My Comment.. Maybe You Will Understand.

      @rebeccalee1065@rebeccalee10652 жыл бұрын
    • Tell me you’re christian without telling me you’re christian

      @rudy2shoes@rudy2shoes Жыл бұрын
    • @@rudy2shoes If You Are Talking To Me, I'm A Muslim -- AND A Christian, But Not In The Content You May Think.

      @rebeccalee1065@rebeccalee1065 Жыл бұрын
  • I think Ivar got his Boneless nickname due to his ruthless fighting capabilities. I could be wrong. His family could have simply chosen a random name.

    @stacyrussell460@stacyrussell4602 жыл бұрын
    • I heard it may be a simple mistranslation, that originally it was supposed to be "the Godless" due to his hatred of Christians.

      @calexander7495@calexander74952 жыл бұрын
    • Thank you for watching and commenting Stacy! Have a great day!

      @historyprofiles@historyprofiles2 жыл бұрын
    • Thought he was boneless because he couldn't get it up?

      @cheekybastard9312@cheekybastard93122 жыл бұрын
    • @@cheekybastard9312 cheeky ! 😂

      @historyprofiles@historyprofiles2 жыл бұрын
    • @@cheekybastard9312 Yes there's a theory that it's because he was impotent but I thought that was covered in the video.

      @calexander7495@calexander74952 жыл бұрын
  • To be heathen. It's not being bad. But non conformist. What are you here for in this life? To understand free will and living in the realm of free will it's you're personal choice, and no one else. What is the measure of a person? Do you know yourself enough to know you're own capabilities, and willingness to achieve what you want in life? Proud to be heathen!

    @alexroberts590@alexroberts5902 жыл бұрын
  • Subscribed.

    @ravensthatflywiththenightm7319@ravensthatflywiththenightm73192 жыл бұрын
    • Thank you for watching!

      @historyprofiles@historyprofiles2 жыл бұрын
  • A really excellent video. Definitely an ironic name

    @MortisMedia@MortisMedia2 жыл бұрын
  • I've been told that they often made fun of a person's strengths as well as weaknesses. By calling a man Tiny when he was as big as a house. Men hack on each other all the time. It toughens you up. Given you thick skin and makes harder to taunt during battle.

    @thorodinson5166@thorodinson51662 жыл бұрын
  • He was a giant, about 7 ft.tall and it was surprising to his foe that he could move so fast. That and the fact that he was double jointed in the knees and had to wear a brace. He would usually walk along side his horse or ride. He wasn't crippled because he was able bodied.

    @albertberto5276@albertberto5276 Жыл бұрын
  • I like to think it was ED that gave him the nickname.. Great video btw

    @kylesilvers7609@kylesilvers76092 жыл бұрын
  • Regarding the “Boneless” condition of Ivar, I would relate it to the EHLERS-DANLOS syndrome which deals with genetic disorders involving bone and cartilage tissues due to the anomalies with collagen. I remember in my high school times to have witnessed EHLERS-DANLOS symptoms on a colleague when he could voluntarily bend his 10 fingers in such manner that every phalanx looked sagged downwards featuring a catenary arc shape. Also, his was able to pinch his skin and stretch it to a certain extent that seemed made of super-elastic rubber. On the other hand, two months ago, an ex-Nurse from Boston Alli Rae showed in social networks how can she bend her thumbs in a 90- degree angle that also meet less acute EHLERS-DANLOS criteria, fortunately. I think Ivar could have suffered in some degree the E.D syndrome

    @eliascarrilo8423@eliascarrilo8423 Жыл бұрын
    • I have EDS, i find it highly unlikely as only about 10% of people actually know they have EDS. Cool theory though

      @LTD538@LTD538 Жыл бұрын
  • No. Ivar was known for deception. Have you guys ever heard the saying "He doesn't have an honest bone of truth."

    @crypghost5@crypghost5 Жыл бұрын
    • Yup that's exactly what I was thinking. A more modern label would be spineless. Not because he wouldn't fight but with his quick lying actions to sue for peace. In other words he gave the impression of being a spineless snake. So naturally an enemy who despised him would label him as such regardless of his true martial skill.

      @a.e.w.384@a.e.w.384 Жыл бұрын
    • No, but I've heard of "He doesn't have a honest bone in his body".

      @lynnecarriemurphy3448@lynnecarriemurphy3448 Жыл бұрын
  • Unbreakable...

    @lozy202@lozy202 Жыл бұрын
  • Some Art from mount and blade. Nice

    @verdantgrottobarbell5279@verdantgrottobarbell52792 жыл бұрын
  • I have heard (somewhere) that the word for bone is the same as the word for leg, in Norwegian. Therefore Ivar could also have been said to be Ivar the Legless. This would tally with the later source which states that he had to be carried everywhere. Perhaps as a result of a birth defect, or more likely, that his legs were cut off in battle perhaps? Alternatively, it could refer simply to paraplegia, quite possibly as a result of polio perhaps???

    @alexanderguesthistorical7842@alexanderguesthistorical78422 жыл бұрын
    • That's true then the upper body compensates and becomes muscular and stronger crawling like that takes a lot of upper body strength.

      @dianemalloy2890@dianemalloy2890 Жыл бұрын
  • I always loved his record 100- 0

    @niahhmaiava1024@niahhmaiava10242 жыл бұрын
  • Boneless was probably a reference to his spineless "cunning" actions... Everytime he knew he was out manned he wanted peace so he could regroup and grow his army...

    @banikjc@banikjc Жыл бұрын
  • Nice Ollie

    @7vernessa@7vernessa2 жыл бұрын
    • Thank you for watching!

      @historyprofiles@historyprofiles2 жыл бұрын
  • The meanings of words change so easily throughout different languages and time, it probably doesn't mean' boneless' at all. I think it's more likely his name was Ivar the cruel. Once you're a veteran of over 100 battles odds are you're pretty f#@ked up and have to be carried to battle. so you can watch from a safe distance.thats my opinion.really enjoyed your content thanks

    @jeremywalker2460@jeremywalker2460 Жыл бұрын
    • You make a good point. Ivan the Terrible could be cruel, as might any strong ruler of those times be. If you get terrible service at a store that’s another thing entirely. The nicknaming doesn’t seem so unusual. How many of us know of a huge burly guy whose pals call him Tiny? Yes, soooo clever.

      @martinphilip8998@martinphilip8998 Жыл бұрын
  • Great video Ollie! I’ve commented before- I’m a direct descendant of the Viking Kings. My lineage goes back to the year 100 AD. My family has understood that Ivar was nicknamed “ the boneless” because he was very flexible n with wild moves in battle..a great warrior. I’d love to see a video on Sigurd Ring. The way that he died is almost unbelievable- even more so that his son King Ragnar.

    @redvikingprincess741@redvikingprincess7412 жыл бұрын
    • That's incredible! Thank you so much for telling me that! Ill look into Sigurd Ring! Have a great day RedVikingPrincess and thank you so much for watching!

      @historyprofiles@historyprofiles2 жыл бұрын
    • Yeah, and I’m supposed to believe that you trace your ancestry to 100 AD LOL

      @olafharoldsonnii4713@olafharoldsonnii47132 жыл бұрын
    • Skol shield maiden

      @MrRaiin32@MrRaiin322 жыл бұрын
    • @@olafharoldsonnii4713 that’s actually not that hard for some parts of the world people tend to like to remember the people that came before them and usually talk and write about it

      @dixiewhiskey3273@dixiewhiskey32732 жыл бұрын
    • @@dixiewhiskey3273 but fucking 900 AD? Lol, relax

      @olafharoldsonnii4713@olafharoldsonnii47132 жыл бұрын
  • Yesss!!

    @sarahgirlisit@sarahgirlisit2 жыл бұрын
    • Thank you for watching!

      @historyprofiles@historyprofiles2 жыл бұрын
  • I'm sorry to say but when I was at school I didn't take it in! Even when I had fun school trips to Tynemouth Priory or Catherine Cookson museum, Beamish I wasn't interested, until I got older! Now I watch "Vikings " and I'm unsure what's true or made for TV!? So I'm really enjoying this channel!!

    @StephLillibet@StephLillibet2 жыл бұрын
    • Thank you so much !!!

      @historyprofiles@historyprofiles2 жыл бұрын
  • I’ve always thought that boneless referred to his morals, boneless as in unscrupulous, spineless no backbone

    @BESHYSBEES@BESHYSBEES2 жыл бұрын
  • I always thought Ivar The Boneless was merciless and very agile for some reason I doubt he was over 6ft he would have had a nickname that refers more to someone at the time considered to be a giant like Hrolf The Walker aka Rollo whom was to tall to ride on horseback.

    @metalmindedmaniac2587@metalmindedmaniac2587 Жыл бұрын
  • I picture him as a cripple but his presence would be that of a walrus or a crocodile. I once attended a karate clinic that was attended by a black belt in a wheelchair, the man's motivation was startling and very intimidating. The fact that he was crawling belied every technique the others were taught and he served up many surprises.

    @youmaus@youmaus Жыл бұрын
    • Those that have somthing to prove snd nothing to lose are the most fearless and should not be underestimated

      @zoso1up@zoso1up Жыл бұрын
  • That mount and blade screen intro though

    @JohnDoe-zl1fj@JohnDoe-zl1fj2 жыл бұрын
  • I loved his presentation in VIKINGS, where he had weak bones in his legs. I thought that was a good representation.

    @lowrider81hd@lowrider81hd2 жыл бұрын
    • Could not get through the first season. The over-acting was too annoying.

      @cobes11@cobes112 жыл бұрын
    • @@cobes11 overacting? any examples of this, cuz i cant remember any overacting in vikings

      @thisbubblygoodness7611@thisbubblygoodness76112 жыл бұрын
    • @@thisbubblygoodness7611 That ship builder guy took his role too seriously. And Ragnar’s ticks were too distracting.

      @cobes11@cobes112 жыл бұрын
    • @@cobes11 huh interesting, thats your opinion so i wont try and change it, floki is a bit mad but i suppose its up to you whether you liked his performance or not not sure what you meant by Ragnar's tricks tho, i always thought he was incredibly smart

      @thisbubblygoodness7611@thisbubblygoodness76112 жыл бұрын
    • @@thisbubblygoodness7611 I've seen the guy who plays Floki in other shows and the guy is an absolutely brilliant actor as well as the guy who plays Ragnar, so idk what that dudes talking about he must've been watching a different show.

      @incognitocamo1439@incognitocamo14392 жыл бұрын
  • I always thought he may have had the same condition as Bao Xishun. That would have made him a terrifying warrior to face, even though he probably wouldn't have been that capable in an actual fight.

    @minecraft2895@minecraft28952 жыл бұрын
    • He was said to be able to run at inhuman speeds and fight with such anger

      @higherechelon7884@higherechelon78842 жыл бұрын
    • Ahh yes, poor ol' Bao Xinshun. Who tf is that

      @9_debolati_318@9_debolati_3182 жыл бұрын
    • @@9_debolati_318 Google is your friend 🤷‍♂️

      @minecraft2895@minecraft28952 жыл бұрын
  • Hi there. Can you list your source of material and information please? Thank you

    @missredherring1753@missredherring17532 жыл бұрын
  • Any video on history that starts with a frame from Mount and blade I know I'm going to like.

    @Threshershark420@Threshershark420 Жыл бұрын
  • Hi, I like your teachings! I'm norwegian, and have always learned that "when a door closes silently without anyone closing it, its Ivar Beinlaus, who has closed it"! My perception is, that Ivar could move so silently that he surpriced his enemies and therefore he was named 'Ivar Beinlaus'.. ofcourse this is a myth but almost all myths come from legends and from true stories. I love Alfred the Great. And feel bad for my ancesters and their violence 🙏 but I also detest the inquisición.

    @sisselhansen3915@sisselhansen3915 Жыл бұрын
    • Dont be ashamed of the legacy of your people, it is far too long ago to be able to do something about it. And they have shaped our present day quite abit, to be honest.

      @gerbenkoelewijn6374@gerbenkoelewijn6374 Жыл бұрын
    • This is really interesting. Beinlaus sounds for me, as a German, like Beinlos, witch means: without legs. But I can also hear boneless in it. Thank you for sharing this! Edit: Now I know that Beinlaus also means boneless in the norwegien language. Interesting to see how (some) Languages are both, equal and a bit different.

      @kingkongprimpinella774@kingkongprimpinella774 Жыл бұрын
    • Don’t be ashamed - Rome left Britain idle and defenceless - it was a free for all... no hard feelings... you became a large part of us and together we conquered the world! 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿

      @dannyboywhaa3146@dannyboywhaa3146 Жыл бұрын
  • Good narration! Pet peeve regards the chosen art- in many cases the axes are way too immense. Vikings tended towards small, light axe heads for speed and dexterity as well as using less metal

    @privacyactremediation8907@privacyactremediation89072 жыл бұрын
  • Imagine one day we find out time travel we could finally see how legendary these times were

    @zjmgxclips5633@zjmgxclips5633 Жыл бұрын
    • I would love that

      @historyprofiles@historyprofiles Жыл бұрын
  • Beinlauss could also have the translation of legless as in snake or serpent. As his condition was said to be the result of a curse it could have been in reference to his deceitful nature which would have been looked upon as a negative trait.

    @Loreweavver@Loreweavver2 жыл бұрын
  • From what I have heard is that it was from having fragile bones, but another slightly amusing story is that he had some sort of ED hence “boneless” which could explain why he had no children. Either way I think that this is something that is lost to history and is mostly just fun speculation.

    @weopkasdkopasdpkasdkl8065@weopkasdkopasdpkasdkl80652 жыл бұрын
    • He had children. His grandson ruled in York and his great grandson ruled in Dublin....so he had to had sons.

      @BarTGila@BarTGila2 жыл бұрын
  • I'd say boneless because he did a lot of fighting, and not a lot of getting caught.

    @lordlynkz@lordlynkz2 жыл бұрын
    • Thank you for watching! Have a great day and thats a good theory!

      @historyprofiles@historyprofiles2 жыл бұрын
  • Being he was renowned for cruelty and torture I speculate he was deboning his victims. The flailing open of an arm and removing the bone while the victim was alive would certainly make a big impression to even Norsemen. It would strike terror in the hearts of friends and foes alike.

    @markthervguy@markthervguy2 жыл бұрын
  • By the tellings of the stories it can be ascertained that he suffered from osteogenesis imperfecta. It is a congenital defect in which the bones are very brittle. The primary indicator is that the whites of the eyes are vivid blue. the more blue the eyes, the more brittle the bones. the second is usually an inability to walk as in most cases the bones in the legs are too brittle to support weight. A sufferer of this affliction would beccome accustomed to the pain of breaking bones which would give the impression of being able to fight while having "no bones to break". Ivar may have suffered a mild case with regular flareups that gave him more vulnerable periods.

    @lukepaugh162@lukepaugh162 Жыл бұрын
  • After watching the Vikings TV series I came to the realisation that although the Vikings were great travellers, explorers, warriors and pirates none of them could actually act.

    @alexbowman7582@alexbowman75822 жыл бұрын
    • I thought they were all excellent. And not sure you know this, but the majority of the actors were all actual Norsemen and women from Scandinavia. Hence, why the accents and language was top notch.

      @lynnecarriemurphy3448@lynnecarriemurphy3448 Жыл бұрын
  • I feel like it's the opposite, I feel like he was boneless because his bones couldn't be broken, I.e the guy could take no end of punishment and still push forwards

    @matthewcurry13@matthewcurry132 жыл бұрын
  • yes Indeed

    @annamosier1950@annamosier1950 Жыл бұрын
  • always thought it just meant he was very agile, acrobatic, double jointed, but since then i've found viagara solved his problem.

    @garychynne1377@garychynne13772 жыл бұрын
  • He was probably double jointed as well as 6'6"or 7'. So the name was both ironic and suggested that he was super flexible.

    @samueldodge8077@samueldodge80772 жыл бұрын
    • It was E.D.S. ; being tall and dying from heart complication suddenly are not uncommon with this genetic disorder

      @LDuke-pc7kq@LDuke-pc7kq2 жыл бұрын
  • I think his name boneless maybe because of his afflictions the boneless would be his reminder of his pain and his affliction and it wouldn't be used to bully or affect him in anyway since it has already his name.

    @jasonmomoa8613@jasonmomoa86132 жыл бұрын
    • Thank you for watching! Thats a good theory Jason! Have a great day!

      @historyprofiles@historyprofiles2 жыл бұрын
  • NEEDS TO BE A GAME

    @johnanthonyalberola2341@johnanthonyalberola23412 жыл бұрын
  • It was claimed by Professor Martin Biddle from Oxford University that a body was found while Excavating the churchyard at Saint Wystan's in Repton England, believed to be Ivar the Boneless...he was 9 foot tall. The body was surrounded by the bones of 249 bodies. This suggested that he was a Viking warlord.

    @williamfindspeople4341@williamfindspeople4341 Жыл бұрын
  • "The Hated" is the translation I like the most. Given that the Latin translation can be misinterpreted.

    @brandondavis7777@brandondavis77772 жыл бұрын
    • His skeleton was dug up and he was a tall man with healthy bones. Boneless definitely meant hated

      @olafharoldsonnii4713@olafharoldsonnii47132 жыл бұрын
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