Giant rubber powered airplane wins national championship!
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Can't believe KZhead didn't show me this sooner. Been out for 9mon....so rad
Use to build rubber models with my dad. I think I actually built that model at one time minus the timer. Brings back fond memories. Thanks.
Sincere Congratulations. I have watched many of your videos and only can say that your passion and talent for building these wonderful models are a true inspiration for everyone. Thank you for sharing the videos and keep doing the fantastic job you do. Kindest regards from Canada.
Thank you!
First time I saw this gossamer aircraft I fell in love. Bud was flying it at Taft a few years ago. I wondered about the portability but that seems under control. Splendid machine, great offering. Thanks to Josh, Hope and especially Bud.
Bud is a national treasure!
Wow! What a great performance! You should call it "the Long Walk". I fully understand about the pure free-flight part of our hobby and all, but if ever a model needed R/C rudder assist, this is the one. Some time ago I built a 3-channel Lanzo Bomber with an old Astro .05 geared motor. It climbed nearly vertically and just would not come down. Into the slightest breeze, it hung there like a kite and caught every bit of thermal activity in the sky. I had to spin it down to recover it. I won (I should say IT won) every club duration and timed landing contest until I retired it from competition to give the others in my club a chance. This airplane electrified would be a killer competitor as well. Thanks, Josh.
I'd buy a kit
These planes have their own special kind of gracefulness.
Yes they do!
Congratulations on your win! Such a big beautiful bird. It seems to defy gravity.
So cool how people have so many different ideas. Spending time with something trying to make it work. That's what makes us develop great things
I can’t even begin too tell ya how much I appreciate what you’re doing and the long high flights you guys pull off 👍💪🔥✈️
Thank you!
Congrats! Best advertising ever."You to can be a national champ"
Amazing rubber powered airplane! great design
Wow. As a lad in the early Sixties I built a few balsa and tissue rubber powered models. I don't think I ever got more than 10 seconds out of them TBH. This is amazing. Thanks for posting this.
Glad you enjoyed it! Endurance models like this one are actually quite easy to fly. Most folks try to get started with scale planes and rightly get discouraged because they are very difficult to get flying.
Nice video, Joshua. Thanks for sharing!
Wonderful flight videos Josh; she's a real floater! I had to laugh when you were test gliding that model. It's glide ratio was so good, one could lose it in the weeds from just a hand throw!🙂
Why would they be worried about wire bracing?
Free Flight can't be more Beautiful than this 👍 Congratulations Josh with Your wonderful plane 🌷🇺🇲
Thanks!
dude. i want to build this, i built something like it in the 90's for a high school comp. but now im 49 and this video made me remember it! you made me reconnect with my younger me
The water's fine, jump right in!
Just awesome 👌 Think I'll have to buy and build one! Really a great flyer 🙃
Another title! Great job Joshua.
Hey I flew fighters in the USAF for 20 years, the last one being the A-10. Then mostly 737’s for USAirways. Here’s what I see. Your aerodynamics seem to be as perfect as you can get them. Since there is no pilot who can re-trim as RPM decreases, the aircraft has to be very aerodynamically sound. I was very impressed how the aircraft was able to stall and recover on its own with minimum loss of altitude. That’s one heck of a design with outstanding trim adjustments by the owner to get it just right. Very impressive and fun to watch, pure flight! Perhaps Joan of Arc bares some explanation. She is the Patron Saint of Soldiers, and I honor her because she got me through some tough spots over Iraq. Guineas are great, they love to eat ticks!
Thanks, your the man , really enjoyed the video.
Superb Josh- congratulations
Boy.....that's just great Josh!
Ohh.. man, you're absolutely right
Congratulations sir for your victory ✌️ 🇺🇸🎉✨😇
Back in the 70's I built one almost that big. It was a John Gard design.. A blast to build, never did get it to fly like I wanted.
Would love to have plans for that. John Gard was a legend.
Really nice! Watch out for the threes! They love the smell of Balsa. We always bring along long sticks when we are flying. In the winter it is safe, flying on the frozen lakes.
Corn is as bad or worse...it cut the crap out of me retrieving this thing at the Nats.
Nice, good to see an old Cloud dusters model do so well. I have not seen Bud in years, Glad to hear he is still flying. I will have to stop byTaft one of these days again. I never did the Dawn Patrol thing, mostly Wakefield and Electric stuff...that motor run time! :-)
Bud was at the Nats this year and flew up a storm. Unfortunately his Dawn Patrol crashed on launch so I didn't get the two of them in the air together.
@@joshuawfinn Oops, said Taft and meant Lost Hills....Never get old , I will have to look at your Old time stuff. Jusr saw the Gypsy one, interesting. Glad to hear Bus is still getting out there. StaySafe/GPK pK
You forgot to say but here in Australia we call that Open Rubber but never seen a 4min motor run and a 3min Max but glad you got the climb trim correct at the end - well done.
I'm unfortunately not terribly familiar with Open Rubber per AUS rules. Would love to know more about contest format and dominant designs!
I luv dat anti-gravity ship!! Congratulations!
This is a great plane and I like the way it flies. I was into rubber FF in the 69's and 70's and even got to meet Bob Dunham and go to his home in 72 when I lived in Ok. What a fine gentleman and superstar to me. Got to see his micro film indoor planes which were a work of art. Went to powered FF after that for a bunch of years with some Bill Hunter of Satellite City elliptical wing designs. Eventually we ran out of flight fields that were within practical distances.
I correspond quite regularly with Robert Dunham II. He's been a regular customer and a great advisor on our AMA Gas projects. I'm most of the way done trimming a Satellite 788, really nice flying airplane with a K&B 7.5. I understand your problems finding suitable fields...my solution has been to invest in RDT technology so I can trim on very small fields. Also Cat III maxes are short enough to be workable in decent weather, though I'd much prefer to have Lowry Range at my regular disposal instead of the 24 hr drive it is each way.
Nice flight time...congratulations!
As a kid Wakefield models were pretty much the pinnacle of aero modelling. Been through power free flight, R/C, even a helicopter. Great to come full circle back to these elegant designs.
Big rubber models are just plain fun. I can never get enough of flying them.
Spent my retirement on RC foamy's. Hung em up years ago. Shouldn't have watched this. I'd like to get into it. My wife's going to kill me tho! 😅
Great video, this is so cool 👍
Impresionante capacidad y rendimiento de ese aeromodelo. Saludos cordiales desde España.
@6.45 you even managed to get the Sun Dogs in frame. Beautiful plane
Yeah I was really fortunate to get ideal conditions.
That is simply fantastic.
Beautiful!
Joshua, master of all kinds of flight, but especially of slow, floating flight. Remember his winning indoor machine? It hardly moved through the air
Those guineafowl made it for me.I'm glad you didn't do a professional edit. Rest In Fox.
Fire that cat!
This is awesome. Very cool sir.
This really is the most captivating sport, there's just something about it that brings us closer to our primal envy of birds. Thanks for making such beautiful things Josh. Someday I'm sure I'll give this hobby a try, and I'm sure my house will look like yours after not too long!
That really is the heart of it. I can't understand what it is I love so much about freeflight, but the sight of a rubber model in a thermal has never gotten old to me. It's just astounding to see it work the air.
@@joshuawfinn, 👍👍👍👏👏👏🤝🙂
Flew Wakefield with the late Bob White. There's mad joy to those monsters.
Bob was amazing. Sad I never met him. I've got a couple of mulvihills based of his design...they fly wonderfully.
Amazing plane sir!
nice job, tuned to perfection
That is fantastic!
Very brave flying amongst trees!
Congratulations well done.
Daaaang, always being COOL!!!!
That was awesome!
Huuuge, flies like a heliumfilled dream
Majestic flyer, the wing loading must be miniscule.
It's quite low, but also has a phenomenally well tuned airfoil. Now a two time Nats winner to boot.
like a giant penny-weight plane beautiful flight
Que elegancia tiene en vuelo.. Felicidades Joshua 👏👏👏. Donde está situado el centro de gravedad? (CG)
I dont remember where I put the CG. I believe I have it marked on the plans. This one is very forgiving of incorrect CG though.
Oh Wow...I don't think I want one, I think I NEED one of these! Totally understand that the prop assembly isn't included in the short kit, but are the prop and rubber specs included on the plan?
The specs for Bud's setup are on the plan, and I'm more than happy to provide details on my own setup which is slightly different.
@@joshuawfinn You're awesome
super cool and impressive flight time
Them birds bro love free flight
Once they catch there is no greater feeling
Wow! That is some machine!
Congrats
WoW!! Just Wow!!
Incredible.
cool airplane - flies great
Amazing plane, but Josh you have to do something about those crazy birds!
Hey they keep the ants at bay so I give them a lot of leeway. ;)
I've been following since finding you thru flitetest. Great content. I gotta ask what kind of birds were those?
They're Guineas. Unfortunately since I recorded the intro, a fox killed them. Farm life can be unpleasant.
@@joshuawfinn I thought that was what they were, sorry for your loss .I would have said as much but I wasn't aware of the spelling thanks for the answere. The buddha teaches any life lived will suffer. Farm life puts right in your face though. Cool content thanks again.
Nice sun dogs....and aeroplane.
Somewhere I've got a still shot of it passing the sundogs. An amazing view!
You get your exercise every time you have a good flight.
Definitely. Both times we've would it up for contest flights, there have been vehicles involved in retrieving it. Drift at Nationals was severe this year and it was almost a mile and a half downrange when it landed in that corn. Thankfully we rented a golf cart for the week!
Less than 100 grams for the airframe! That's incredibly light! But this of course must be before the covering... Still, most impressive. And a very graceful glide.
1/4 mil mylar on the wings, even lighter on the tail. Polyspan on the fuselage isn't exactly light but it's needed. But yes, airframe well under 100g complete with DT and tracking beacon. I'm still flying this bird, it's got quite a career now.
I Subbed, very cool plane ✈
Welcome! Let me know what else you'd like to see!
Hi Joshua. What are you using for covering?
It's 1/2 mil mylar used for photo printing, hence the 3 color pigment.
is it possible to add a single control point (rudder for instance) and still keep weight low enough for 4+ minute flights?
Absolutely. :)
Can this be adapted to have a small motor, batteries and RC controls? I am interested in this kind of design for ultra long range waypoint guided powered flights.
Yeah you could definitely do that. It would be a real floater. A lightweight F5K power system would be plenty of power for it.
Wow that’s amazing. Are you sure this is earths atmosphere?......
Am I safe in assuming that the reason for the term dawn is that flights are made prior to trigger time.
Yeah we fly them at dawn to minimize thermals.
Lovely. I wonder what the birds (guinea fowl?) were saying? "go on, chuck it"
Probably something more along the lines of "it's been 5 minutes since last feeding, you dolt!"
WOW...! That cat really didn't give a dam about those birds.......
Buenisimo
Very, very, very beautiful 👍👍👍🙂
Reminds me of the RCM sctratchbuild plan, the Rubber Guppy.
If you have any details on the Rubber Guppy, please send to joshuawfinn@gmail.com because I cannot find ANYTHING about it online, including the various rcm databases.
@@joshuawfinn Will do. I just checked and couldn't find it either. It was from a long time ago, circa 1990. Old timey rubber-powered free flight looking plane, but with rudder/elevator R/C control.
@@joshuawfinn Now you got me really curious. Just checked out a bunch of RCM and MAN archive sites and RCG. Maybe it was Model Builder magazine? Will keep looking.
Nice!
The hard part is finding those long pieces of C grain with no runout.I would guess that it's the biggest reason you have to supply your own.
I actually don't have any C grain in it. Even the prop blades are A grain. 😀
Ha ha experts!
faltou um pouco de peso no naris ele ficou fora do CG mais ficou muito bom voou muito parabéns ...eu sou facinado por aeromodelo tenho mas é controlado nao de cordas mas ficou supimpa ,,
Is there such a thing as Control line rubber power models...?
There was a Stanzel kit for one long ago. Also so-called Round the Pole flying used to be popular indoors, mainly in England. They used to race them that way at the US Indoor Nats.
Amazing glide performance. If you get that thing into a thermal it will be gone.
That's why we use the DT on test flights. For dawn flyoffs, you just let it go and chase it across the countryside.
Sorry Josh, need to ask a couple of question I'm sure you've answered a hundred times already. How do you store your rubber? Do you buy larger sizes and Strip to size? If so who is the vender? How many flights is a competitive motor good for- vs- just a having fun on the weekend? I have built all of Simmers "wocks" , Korda's Wakefield & Dethermalizer, Lanzos Stick plus maybe 50 Gas free flights and scale models. Finally moved to a state that has enough open space to fly them.
Robert, I need to do a video on this one. Bottom line is most of my big rubber models can fly an entire season on a single motor unless I have to do a bunch of retrimming following repairs, which usually destroys a motor. I store them with the motors installed, in a cool location, in their storage boxes. Seems to work out ok. I do strip to size from 1/8" rubber. You only need to do that for small scale stuff and indoor planes though.
What's cooler, the airplane or the helmeted guineafowl? 😁😎
Man that's a floater.
well done ... uk'
god job
Un vrai saut à l’élastique 😂
did you have some grouse just roll over your area at 2:22?! awesome
Guineas. We keep them to control the ants.
Next.. a twin boom version
Love the photobombing guineas.
wow what a big plane
100g for this ship? Do you do apprenticeships?
We don't have any internships at the moment but I'd like to someday.
NICE! Not totally a fan of turbulator 'spars' but for that application they probably make perfect sense. Hey the birds have wings, give 'em some respect, dude. :-) The unpowered sink rate on that thing is insane. Maybe you should consider injecting hydrogen into the wing and fuse before flight...I'm only 3/4s kidding here.
Turbulator spars are great on slow planes and provide some extra rigidity, but they definitely detract at higher speeds. For planes like this that live in a narrow speed range, they're perfect.
@@joshuawfinn I've never seen any L/D data on a wing done that way, but if you find that in actual use it probably is so, and as I said likely more applicable to your requirements. You guys really are in about as narrow a speed range as it gets. Congrats on the win. I had turbulators just like that on my SD100 RC sailplane and I modified it to a thin balsa surface, undercutting the ribs to maintain the airfoil shape. I liked the result. Yes, it flew a MUCH wider speed range, though, probably 13:1 on severe dives carrying some ballast vs floating it in min weight config, and the mod cost me very little weight penalty, as the weight unit involved pounds, not grams. :-) Thx for taking the time to answer. I spent many many hours as a kid flying small HLGs and found this rubber free flight a joy to watch. We got about 20 seconds on good non thermal assisted flights, and lost many of them into thermals that took them up right out of sight. I even got one back after a 20 min flight once that never got to high to see (we followed it) and probably involved at least two different thermals. It didn't happen frequently enough to make a DT worthwhile, though. Have you ever tried paraballoons? Those were a lot of fun, too in a place with heavy thermal activity (Central Fl for us).
sem RC fica dificil.....quando cai, tem que ir buscar no japão ....
that thing is soooo floaty
Wow. That plane needs a Rudder Servo & Reciever.
It would make an excellent RC slow flier, either electric or rubber. You could fly it in your front yard it's so docile.
That's why the Chenel copy is GAMING looking for hard work and getting mass layoffs.
Need'a get'cha a bush hog out there Josh !
can you have two, after one is done to trig the next one and keep flying longer
Old planes used something called return gears where one motor was geared into a motor. That said this model is optimized for a single motor and that's why it runs such a huge prop. No other solution will give even equal performance, let alone better