I Bought a Supercharged Audi at Auction and got 50% off because of a Mystery Transmission Issue
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I bought this clean title, nice condition, Supercharged Audi S4 and got a great deal at auction because of a transmission issue. I figured it would be easy, but it seems the DSG in these cars are a little more finicky then you might think, and we get a little surprise when we drop the fluid...
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Take your best guess as to where the key was hiding 👇
Sunshade, like in Terminator 2?
Under the seat or in the trunk
Your StepMom?
sun visor?
I like Teslas now.... And for a good reason.
You forgot to list an important and expensive option - the Bang & Olufsen sound system - identifiable by the silver rings on speaker grilles.
Sam you need a two post lift.
3 post! or bust
With over 1 million subs, I’m surprised Bendpak hasn’t hooked him up yet.
@@AnontheGOAT I'm sure they've offered, but he has said he doesn't want to "ruin the barn with one"
Why? When he now has a man.
@@elitesniper923 an employee* Saying he has a man sounds more like Sam is now pitching for the other team and I'm sure Rich would love that to use that.
I actually had the similar issue last month with my B CLASS. It ended up requiring a software update (dealer only). I only had 2,4,6 gears. It also went into limp mode.
Did it only go into 2,4,6 and reverse bc mine is currently doing The same thing
@@avoidklipz5790 did you get your answer, mate?
Those S4’s are fun to drive. Tons of power and great hand,ing.
Hey Sam you can also check the solenoids on the valve body for resistance, also could be a leaky valve which you can get a seal kit, sometimes if one leaks there is not enough fluid pressure in the trans to work properly.
They you very much for the idea! My thoughts are that worst case I can get the Mechatronics rebuilt or maybe even attempt it myself
Clutch and gear debris, no big deal. DSG is known for metal in there transmission, specifically when there new. As long you don't see big chuncks of metal... It's fine. Change the gearbox oil from time to time.
every 40k miles for DSG in case anybody was wondering!
Plus put a new transmission oil filter on
Hmm, those chunks are too big, it’s usually a fine particle dust, never seen chunks like that coming out from mine.
This s4 is the wet clutch system. When driven hard it slams the clutch against the clutchplate and the synchros move very fast in this cars. If it still works it works. Skipping gear is also normal, you don't need al gears when driving slow, just slam the gas pedal and it will take all gears. (When not in limb mode) There is a connection between the ABS system and the electronic system of the DSG. I would first look into that. Sorry for my bad English. Greetings from Belgium.
@@Sven_Re347 right, but the trans on the s4 has 2 compartments, and the one samcrac drained only has the clutches, oil pumps and mechatronic. Gears with synchros are actually in another chamber. Large metal flakes coming from the mech unit compartment is not normal. Mine only ever contained dust like particles. Clutch friction plates are basically coated with paper, if they hit the steel plates hard, you’ll see friction material chunks but not metal.
We had exactly this on our A5 convertible. It was the Mechatronic unit and the valves impact on the pressure applied to the clutches increasing wear which probably explains the higher amount of flakes in the fluid. Try not to drive it much further before replacing the unit as the clutches are expensive.
What a gem you've got there , you should def go for the circuit fix , reinstall the muffler and get some mods for it , cold air intake etc etc.
I own this car in sprint blue, also DSG. No issues so far so here's hoping lol. Looking forward to this journey!
Make sure that you service the DSG exactly when the manual stipulates otherwise it will fail not long after. I own the same car, I did mine at 50,000kms and I will be doing it again at 100k. I know a few owners that had to replace the transmission after ignoring the maintenance recommendation.
Absolutely love mine
@@veteq101 Agree. And it's not that hard of a service if you're the least bit handy. Will save you hundreds to do it yourself.
I have your exact car, and today I ran into two codes being thrown, one from the TCU and another from the trans gear selector arm, been a rough day man
What year is your car ? I had a Modded Golf Gti in the early days of DSG that had issues although minor,that was back in 2007,you would think they would have them sorted out by now.
Interesting to see this I work for an Audi/Volkswagen dealership in Germany and it’s cool to see someone figure out all the issues on this girl I love the a/s/rs4 It was nice to find you
All the best with this issue Sam. I bought an A4 in 2018 that had the same error, funny story, trying to research the issue is how I ended up subscribing to your channel during on your RS7 series. Long story short, ended up getting a different transmission, got stuck with component protection removal that stopped the trans from functioning. Once we got the component protection removal sorted started getting a clutch slip error and that when I threw in the towel & cut my losses. This decision only happened 3 months ago. My A4 had a 0AW CVT transmission but it looks like mechatronics are bad from this era.
I have one of these with about 110000 miles on it and the DSG. Mine is dual pulley with a transmission tune and ecu tune. I make sure to service my transmission every coupe of years and I have had no problem. These cars are fast (I surprise alot of people), fun, and easy to drive. Good choice for a project!
On the DSG you may be able to get away with just completely cleaning the circuit boards and system inside, the oil should also be replaced along with the filters.
nah it needs the revised mech board
The metal shavings look very average for the wet clutch DSG.
Got a 2013 B8.5 myself. That first key you found is the valet key. I also did my own DSG trans service and its not super hard. Servicing these cars overall, isn't the worst if you are a gearhead or know anything about fixing stuff. My car is just about to 125k miles and I have done all of the 115k service myself aside from brakes yet. I have heard the mechatronics can go out on these but haven't yet had experience with it. So far from my limited knowledge, as long as you change the oil in these S4's when you are supposed to and keep up with other maintenance, they are pretty reliable.
I don't have a DSG but I've had several 722.6 trans in MB. When you drop the pan, look for sludge that has settled. Sludge may be comprised of metal shavings and these shavings can flow in the bath of fluid and may essentially short out the conductor plate which in turn controls the solenoids for shifters
Should be a magnet at the bottom of the tray to collect the fragments, if not install one.
Clutch isn't magnetic.
@@BlueCollarBachelor once the clutch’s are worn away it’s metal on metal.
@@FishFind3000 Most of the glitter in a DCT box is clutch material. Given that the car moves with no loud noise, it's not metal on metal. Just clutch material.
Clutch material is not magnetic and last time I checked all yellow/gold metals are non-ferrous.
Usually you don't see metal sparkles in DSG gearbox fluids (probably both filters are full of them too), could be one of the clutches gone. Also might want to change the solenoids for both clutches, they usually go bad. Also, good luck putting back in the valve body, it's tricky to put it in correctly because if you miss one of the "hooks" for gears, you have to try again. Might be especially difficult if you're planning on doing it all on that ramp
Great job Sam: you methodic way of checking things is really effective...!
Hey Sam! So I’m pretty familiar with these cars. If they haven’t done the DSG service like they were supposed to, it’s pretty common to see a bit fine metal in the oil. I’d say just do the Mech service, and run with it. I’d also look into getting VCDS with a proper cable or OBDeleven so you can access some dealer level bits in the modules for these Audi’s. That way you can reset the clutches/other internal transmission bits. Feel free to reach out if you have any questions!
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there is a shop in Arizona that has figured out how to service the Porsche DSG (PDK) electronics, much cheaper than a new trans. Assuming Audi and Porsche use similar electronics.
Mike Dodd can I know the store please? I live in Arizona as well
I have a 2015 Audi S6 and recently did a trans service on it and what you see in that fluid is normal so don’t worry. As for the car shifting weird it’s a electrical problem for sure. Those transmissions are not known for major problems. Just replace that part and you should be good 👍🏼
LMAOOO🤣🤣 Just when I got over the Landover incident you put a clip back in Sam 🤦🏾♀️😭
Awesome video as usual Sam! I own an B8.5 S4 (2015) manual and had to replace the battery. I had to update the computer (via VCDS) to code the new battery serial number. Might want to look into that. Very interested in this series! Thanks for sharing! Big thumbs up!
Just caught this. That level of metal likely indicates clutch problems are coming. Once that stuff gets into your solenoids and position sensors then a full mechatronic and clutch strip and clean is the best bet. Love to see how it ends.
I really like the way that you diagnose. It's cool to see your process, why you make the choices you do. Having a cameraperson (Sage?) does add a nice dimension. You live in a rarefied atmosphere from where I am. I enjoy watching you and your bits of humor that snuggle in from the sides, it helps give me ideas about how I can be better on camera and provide content that's entertaining. And you have knowledge.
I appreciate that!
those metallic flakes are normal. change the module and complete fluid flush and fill twice.
I did a DSG service on a customers S4 and did not see any metal. You sure?
@@youbannedmealready5825 Yes I would be pulling out that box for sure and inspecting it.
That's not normal at all buddy
I change oil on these a lot, and they almost never have that many metal flakes, well maybe in the filter, but not at the bottom of oil pan
@@3216ben1 this wasn't an oil change this is the DSG transmission fluid
Just a thanks for Carly I saw a previous post of yours and bought one, they mailed it to Australia it works great cheers David
Love an s4 - flush and circuit board for DSG would hopefully do it as mechatronic issue common but wet clutch transmission usually more robust than early dry DSG - what a nice car find :) well done Sam 👍
I have a 2011 s4 with a dsg and do all my own service, it’s a great car minus the pcv, waterpump, thermostat and dsg issues
@@samcrac3371 Sams step mom is going to punish you when she finds out your impersonating him.
Same year as mine
How have you not got a post lift,for the amount of cars you climb under?
That's a great question. He setup at home is.. um.. odd.
He’s waiting for a sponsor to buy him one, lol
He has stated in the past he does not want one because it takes away from the "do it yourself at home" aspect.
@@garrettabcdefg4602 Unfortunately, it will take a near miss with the car nearly falling on him to purchase a lift!!!
@@Frank00 LMFAO!!!
Fix it Sam the entire B8/B8.5 community is watching you.
Glad to see a b8 s4 on the channel, I have a b8.5 , super fun cars , 500 hp can be had for super cheap with a dual pulley Setup.. you’ve just got a mech unit issue. They’re super easy to take out and repair, no need to pull the trans ..
Hi Sam, I work for Audi, and do these oil changes daily, the shavings are pretty normal, best thing I'd suggest is to change the oil, but make sure you do the filter with it, fill it with oil, run it, and then check the oil level again, if it doesn't spill out then it wants a bit more, they probably take about 6-7 litres all in all, and of the board doesn't fix it, then the clutch pack may need resetting, but it's probably the board
Good constructive reply. Nice one mate 👍
Thanks for sharing
@@Samcrac your welcome, love the channel, always watching for new content, from either you or my uncle rich
My clutch slips in 3rd 5th and 7th. Any idea what could fix it?
@@frankn2080 Most likely the master solenoid (within the mechatronic unit) related to the odd gears.
With the relationship you have with them I’d make a visit or call to eurocharged, with their experience they can tell you whether the flake is normal clutch/gear wear or if it’s more terminal
I heard Sam’s not allowed 🚫 to come back to Eurocharged and they definitely won’t take his calls :-)
@@philipmasie why what happened
I have a B8 S4 with the DSG dual clutch and ~67k miles. I've done the DSG fluid replacement twice now (every 30k miles or so). I've never had metal flakes or anything foreign in mine. The filters (there are two) should catch and clean it up. The mechatronics unit is known to be a failure point but if you don't catch and replace it quick enough 8/10 you'll end up having to replace the transmission at some point. Changing the mech unit will likely clear the codes and make it drive normal but you might end up having serious transmission issues down the line. Only way to really know is drive it and find out.
At the end of last year I traded in a 2011 S4. It was fully factory maintained, ran and looked great. At 105k miles I was just worried that the SC would go out and cost $$$$$$. None the less I find that I regret trading it in. It was without a doubt the best car I've ever owned!
This is a great Samcrac classic style video! Great job Sam.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Excited for this journey 🤙
owned this same car as a manual. loved the powertrain. definitely an aftermarket air filter is key
Very nicely optioned S4, carbon atlas trim was super rare on these, looks like you also got the B&O system, hopefully it also has the sport diff.
Great S4 Sam
“Goo gone” is great to remove plastidip, rolls right off 🤙🏽
Sam if you have a mega use it to check the grounds for the transmission. Those clutches draws a fair amount of amperage. I removed the grounds and clean the paint from the body and the eyelets. Put it back together and seal them. Give it a try you may have fixed it. Did it on my daughters car and it fixed her problem after it had been to the sealer several time to have it fixed.
I work at transmission shop. We repair these weekly. Normal fault after 100-150.000km. Do not only change circuit bord. Case clutch fails. On this code, we do the complete mechatronic rep-kit (solenoids+circuit board Oem or Borg Warner) and complete clutch drum. Change all the filters and change det fluid on front/center diff. After repair do the clutch adaptation. Extra: Flyweel kan fail as well. (Sound/wastment) But more on diesel engiens.
Had a B8.5 S4, absolutely loved it! Kinda bought it on a budget and was paranoid of a DCT failure so I sold it 😭 such an incredible performance deal if you can afford the repairs
I thought they solved the metronics system in the B8.5?
@@craigauty6756 eh kinda sorta, I don't think that was the cause. I'm not sure I'll ever know. What I do know is I didn't want the bill 😂
How long before rich rebuilds buys this and saves it from the chicken farm 😂
Actually I am waiting for Rich rebuilds to come out with a new video how he got an Audi with an unfixable transmission so he put to auction for some 'sucker' to buy.
@@AVPincCMH I can actually imagine the title now "Poor chicken farmer buys an audi I sold with a faulty transmission 😂"
What you found in the glovebox is a surfers key / valet key. So you can put the small thin key. Into the key fob you found. And then you have a ekstra key.
I have had 2 friends with the DSG issue, my friend did the Mechatronics unit rebuild and replacement, and still had the issue, so be careful with it, I am not sure it will fix it, like your buddies said, probably best to replace the transmission so you dont keep chasing issues
Had one of these with a bad trans. Transmission from the dealer was $10k+ but I convinced them to do the swap under warranty.
Ouch I'm really hoping that's not my issue
@@Samcrac there was also a factory recall for carbon buildup in the heads. Dealer might do that for you. After you sort the trans.
@@mattym8 doubt it was a recall. More than likely a TSB. VAG is notorious for shenanigans like that.
@@AnontheGOAT oh, ok. They did the repair for free on my old S4 when it was out of warranty. So whatever that situation is called.
@@mattym8 could have been just that dealer. Did they actually tell you that it was a recall?
Samcrac that looks like , as we say in Northern Ireland , some craic 🤣😎
Down south aswell
Great vid Sam! Great info on the issues and some great info from the gang on what to check for in the comments too, Cheers 👍🍻
Great vid always enjoy your ideas and content followed you for quite a few yrs and reckon your ☝️ of the best Sam
Thank you, go invest in crypto trading with my administrative Mrs Gilbert and get over 500% ROI.
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Finally more audi 🙌 😍
Here we go again. Another interesting project which ends up 90% done 🙄
Story of my life
The only way Sam gets to 90% is if he starts at 95%
It still makes for good viewing though. If you ever view the stats, and new car project will get more views than doing the finishing touches. He's not a fool.
..... and rots in the Cow pasture.
@@gezzuzzful lmfao 🤣
I've bought all of my recent vehicles at auctions. I scored on the last one, old, but low miles and pretty clean and I'm daily driving it with just a set of tires.
Which app or website do you look to find them ?
When draing the oil from the transmission, once you unscrew the drainplug, there is a plastic "level tube" inside that comes out with and allen key.... cant remember the size. Then you get all the oil out. The DSG unit is quite strong, so I'll put my money on get at new mechatronic unit....
4:41 The display should of said I WANT STEP MOM
Thank you for leaving the sitcom stuff out of this video.
I bought an 86 mustang GT off CL for $500 that was in perfect shape, the transmission had been upgraded to a 4r100 and it had the same issue. Wouldn’t shift or go into any gear. Some how the previous owner ripped the trans cooler line right off the transmission and it quickly dumped all its fluid. Fixed the line, refilled the transmission, and drove it problem free for 8 years.
I took apart a 2010 s4 dsg before and if I recall correctly, there was a some flakes in the tranny oil but not nearly as much as that, I have a video on the disassembly
This car is sweet! I've never had an Audi. What should I get?
extended warranty
GT63
dont buy unless you can afford to fix them they are horrible
Audi R8; the RS7 is cool and all, but a 6 Speed Manual R8 is my favorite car ever
You'll want to get a 2013 or newer S4, they had some small but important updates.
@4:59 sam all sweaty shirt stretched out with red eyes made me lol
Had a vw Passat board in shifter & ecu needed replacing to get transmission to work correctly
So clean underneath!!!!
Hi Samcrac, The key,where do you find it!?😎 Congrats from Portugal
thats all i want to know! i guess above the visor
rich had it in his ass
@@dayday2466 That is what I was yelling at the screen "VISOR"
Yeah, where was the key?
mech units are pretty common failure on vw audi dsg's
Simple but expensive fix... wife’s 2.0tsi beetle had a bad mechatronic unit...$1,900 for the part, $600 for labor. I normally Do things myself buuuuuttt I did not want to risk messing up a $1,900 part...I let the dealer do it and it came with a 1yr parts/labor warranty.
I just bought carly for my BMW. I have been looking everywhere for an easy to use and affordable solution. I used your code too. Thank you 🙏 🤝
I had an A7 V6 couple of years ago, exact same issue at 60000 miles as it broke down on me on the highway. I had to replace the full gearbox, DSG’s of those years are known to fail, plenty of similar stories on the net. The other option is a transmission rebuild, cheaper solution. Good luck!
Adam Sandler does it again!!! 🔥
thanks for bringing back the chrome
I have a car with a dsg. Mine had some metal in it as well. I wouldn't worry too much about that. All that shows to me is the car has likely been launched and that maybe the dsg service has been neglected. Nice car,I want to get my hands on one. It's completely worth putting a new(used) trans in it if it's needed.
I love the exhaust sound!!! Do not change it
Considering how many subs he has, surprised he doesn’t have a Bendpak lift already…
Pretty sure that’s intentional
He probably doesn't have one because he goes shade tree mechanic. He replaces parts and goes as cheap as possible while doing the fixes with jacks and such the avg joe has access to. Samcrac does a good job of doling out info on typical problems and what to avoid in auction/totalled vehicles.
@@AdamIsUrqed But on the grass bro? Never used a OG jack on the grass!
I agree, it's ridiculous to do all this work lying on the ground. I'm sure they'd comp him one for a few plugs.
Think it has more to do with his barn and how it would be to try and get one worked into that.
Without watching I doubt it’s a mystery. Extremely well known and documented mechatronic issue.
This is exactly what i was thinking
That doesn't mean his car has that problem.
@@mexicanspec tell me something more obvious yet still wrong
@@mexicanspec hey just posting to let you know I was right. 🤡
Purchased a 2013 S4 from a salvage auction and I had to replace the mech unit. Mechanics were indecisive between a used transmission and a new mech. I went with the mech and 🤞🏽so far so good.
Great video Sam!!
I’d say change fluid and filters and repeat
Who needs a torque wrench on lug nuts when you have a foot size 12 and a pair of flip-flops :)
@3:55 is a valet key. You take the Main key out of your key fob. And insert it into the plastic fob. For valet.
hah yup
Also low brake pads on my Audi caused many unrelated fault codes and when i replaced them they cleared.
I cannot believe that you do not have a lift.... It's actually quite amusing
That's a good point. Even I have a lift and I'm not buying cars like Sam. I use it to store a car and for oil changes. If you ever own a Lotus or another car with panels covering the entire bottom, a 4 poster lift makes impossible work easy.
I was JUST thinking the same thing!
Today we are going to buy a lift from a salvage yard...
@@jackpalczynski7884 used lifts are like 1500 bucks around here, and new ones are only around 2500. dunno why sam doesn't put one in, they make working on anything so much easier, since you can bring the car up to your level.
Cause he's jewish, look at that hair.
With all of your projects, why haven’t you got a portable lift?
For real Quick Jacks are a life saver. I would buy them if I had the scratch.
He only has a million subscribers, cmon give him a break. Money doesn’t grow on trees.
Hey Sammy, Great video as usual! 👍😍👍
Hey Sam glad to see you back in fix it mode!
Try setting fire to it and once it's burnt to the ground throw Carly at it while clearing the codes and see if thats fixed our problem.
We'll never see this car again.
Sam, dsg's are very sensitive to gear oil changes, if the previous owner skipped regular service on the dsg... it can result in the mechatronic to fail and get confused.
Hope it works out for you Sam. I'm so jealous of you getting that awesome car at such a great price. Fingers crossed it's just the board
You have to code the battery with the ecu otherwise it will fail in hundred miles.
I'm not sure that's true. I put a new battery in my A5 and have driven it for hundreds of miles without issue
You don't have to code the battery if it is a like for like swap
This is true. The people saying otherwise don't know or will find out otherwise later. You definitely need to code this battery to the ecu on this s4
This is most beautiful car for price to 10k
It really is!
Looks like a VW Jetta
@@Samcrac im literally searching for a good one to buy,this or audi a5 or golf 6r
@@rubbertoe. nah bro it is not similar at all this is beautiful car jetta is not,that's my opinion
@@rubbertoe. needs new glasses 🤓
That exhaust Sounds brutal ! man !
In this episode the chicken farmer buys another of those darned youropeean cars and tries to fix it
I remember when this generation Audi S4 was launched in 2009 and immediately beat the BMW 335i E90 in every comparison test. It was one of the hottest sports sedans at the time.
S4 is a higher end model then a 335i
@@FishFind3000 it’s more like a 335is
I had a B8 s4 for years, I had this issue but I got lucky and a simple reprograming by the dealer fixed it. After that, I never had an issue.
Sam is a hockey fan like myself and must share the same two teams I cheer for the Washington Capitals and Tampa Bay Lightning. I have been a lightning fan since even their days of being dead last in the NHL and remember when they won the cup back in the early 2000s.
No Rich? No Stepmom? I actually watched this one!!! Keep it up.
Completely agree!
Was anyone else uneasy about how long he was driving around with the fuel light on?
Nice Looking Car Sam This will be Best Project For Manual Swap 👌
23:13 We had a DSG flush on our DQ250 @180K miles, no shavings in the filter or oil.