The G.O.A.T Series - Episode 3
The debate over the greatest 10,000 meter runner is mostly split between two athletes: Haile Gebrselassie & Kenenisa Bekele. Although both have made enormous improvements in the progression of 10k running, only one can be victorious. Stay tuned to see which race we selected as the moment Gebrselassie became the one true G.O.A.T
To answer the question at 7:06 (why Kemboi isn't U20 word record holder): yes, Kemboi was 19, but in athletics all that counts is the year that one is born. That means that that if one athlete is born 01.01. and the second one is born 31.12. in the same year, IAAF treats theme as the same age. So when looking at the records, you just look at the year of the race and then subtract the year when athlete was born (so in this case 2003 - 1983 = 20 -> not U20).
Isn't that incredibly unfair towards anyone born at the end of the year?
Lucas Chamberland as someone born in October, yes. Yes it is.
@@Lucas__C Yes. Even worse thing is that youth world championship is hold only every second year, so if one is born in odd year (for example 2003) in December, one can compete against almost 2 years older athletes (that is a big difference when one is 16 or 17, which is eligable age for this competition). And in the next event, one cannot compete, because he is to old (even thought, in reality, one is not yet 18).
Rip
Lucas Chamberland yes it is, it applies to myself unfortunately
He is truly the Goat and I hope people continue to remember him and also he has 27 World Records
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People get star-struck when they meet famous actors, musicians or whatnot. Meeting Haile Gebrselassie would be one of those moments for me.
Gebrselassie and Bekele are the greatest track distance runners in history.
I think I have your answer. You see the performance only counts as a U20 record if that athlete is not turning 20 that year. Yes Kemboi ran that time when was 19, but he was turning 20 later that same year while Samuel was turning 19 the year he ran that race. Another example is when Noah Lyles ran 19.90 in 2017 at 19 years of age. If he had turned 19 that year it would've broken Bolt's 19.93, but Noah was turning 20 that season. A lot of athletes have run fast as teenagers, but the records weren't U20 records because they turned 20 that season. More examples: Yohan Blake ran 19.78 at 19 years in 2010 Adam Gemili ran 19.93 in 2013 at 19 years in 2013 Trayvon Bromell ran 9.84 at 19 years in 2015 All of them turned 20 after these races. There's a lot more of course. I hope this helps you understand why the record doesn't belong to Kemboi. Unfortunately I don't have the exact link I learnt all this from, because I got this year's ago, but you should be able to find it at the official World Athletics website.
Thanks bro. Was looking for the answer as well. Your comments makes alot of sense.
As an Ethiopian I grew up watching Haile’s races, couldn’t be more proud of what he accomplished! He’s the GOAT When it comes to distance running.
true!
6:55-7:55 Total Running Production's sarcasm is funny 😂😂😂😂😂 (Fun Fact: TRP is a Sub 5 miler)
Am I the only sprinter who likes long distance running?
I am a sprinter too, but I only like watching long distance, not running it myself:)
I’m a sprint hurdler and I love watching videos about long distance running. Typically, unless I’m using it to train, I don’t find open sprints below 400m to be interesting to watch.
thought I was the only one
Same
Karma Vagus literally- I have scars from races.
This video is the most nostalgic, everything about it is special.
These two are like treasure to me ! Love them equal. Thanks for the memories total running.
I absolutely adore haile
Every time I scroll and see a video by this channel I get happy knowing I can have a good next 10 minutes
If Haile's daughter wants to know more about silver medals, she should give Sihine a call (◔◡◔)
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@6:28 Wow! Bekele has 4 out of the Top 6 times all-time in the 10,000 m. 😳😮🙃
TRP is the GOAT of running videos! I can't understand why we does not have a million subscribers yet. I am promoting this channel to anyone who loves running, sport . . . excitement.
But BEKELE was unbeaten in 10000m in 12 races from his first race 2003 to 2011 and his average time for those races were 26:45 !!!
clearly haile was no longer on his prime during this time...breaking 27 world record and 61 ethiopian record is insane...1990-2000 gebrselassie's era..
The only reason Kenenisa lost London 2012 olympics was because he had injuries from 2009 to 2013
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Well done!! Thank you!
Bekele and Gebrselassie are both the GOAT. It's not a tie, they are both the one and only GOAT.
Andrew always does justice for every athlete he makes a video for. Love the awesome content.
TRP is the Gebrselassie of running videos.
Who's Bekele, then?
@@crishealingvtuber8626 Idiot, Bekele is the son of the legend, Haile. You cant compare Bekele to Haile.
@@christopherukundo4883 I meant "if TRP is Haile, which youtuber is Bekele"?
@@crishealingvtuber8626 You are also an undisputed analyst man. Thank you for making it clear.
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He is my favourite. Always with a smile.
I think he is too underated most people over look his 5k time
isn't it the second fastest ever
Bekele isn’t underrated or am I missing something
@@Hensley_Jb he is
I love them both and they're two of the greatest without a doubt, but I would have to go with Kenenisa. He did everything Haile did, World Championship and Olympic titles and ran faster. Haile elevated the 10,000 metres to another level though with how fast he ran and how much he took off the previous world record. As well as beating great's like Paul Tergat, who was his rival for their era. It's very close. You could pick either of them I guess for the G.o.a.t
Awesome video, thanks.
Fun fact: He ran the 10,000m in the 96, 00, 04, and 08 Olympics
I'm making some Doro Wat tonight ✊🏾
Share it please lol
@@tewodrossamson790 ikr haha
What a pride these two are for Ethiopia. U got a dope channel..
Is the thumbnail from the Sydney Olympics when he edged out Tergat at the last second?
Yes, Geb and Bekele are probably the best but Miruts Yifter should get a mention as an Olympic gold double in 10k/5k. Talk about a last lap burner.
Bekele, was the greatest 10000 meter runner of all time in my opinion. His world record still stands.
Still the greatest
One off the greatest long distance runner ever this guy dominated every single category you name it so much respect for this legend 🙌
Amazing!!!
I love your vídeos man, they are very proffesional. I was wondering if you might make a video about Mexican runners in the 90's? That was our golden era in road races. Athletes like German Silva or Arturo Barrios. Thanks and great job ✌😄
He is a legend in my country!
lol I watch all your videos, and I just had a video about this race in my reccomended. About incredible finishes
At least at this time there is no idiots saying that Mo Farah is the GOAT!! In my opinion both bekele and haile are the greatest!!
Couldn't agree more
My best PR 5,000 meters was 14:01.84 in college, a 29:33.60 10,000 meters in the Pros, and a 2:18:16 @ the Boston Marathon in my second marathon ever finishing 66th in the World. I ran a 2:30:59 as an 18-year old in the Jersey Shore Marathon and finished in 5th place among 1,845 Runners. I cannot conceive how fast these guys are moving with such grace and effortless form. All I can state is WOW!
Nailed it - Geb is the GOAT!
How about the greatest women’s 10,000? See the 2016 Olympic finals when Ayana took down the WR and Molly Huddle set the AR. The top 10 times were insane. Love to see you profile this race.
Almaz Ayana is the greatest along with Tirunesh Dibaba
who else wants to see TPR in a dope studio with in-person presentation.
Something tells me if it was rlly professional then it would lose the vibe
I don't know, man. It should be about the actual show, running races and talented runners, than your host. TRP is really nice the way it is because our host happens to also be a talented one.
Silviu Burcea Totally agreed, been watching him grow in to a big channel 🙌🏾
hello friend, the videos are you making they are amazing, perfect analisis of track and field history and athletes, thanks!! you can tell me in the ( 06:10 ) the name of the song please ???
Bekele is the undisputed GOAT
King Selassié🎓 To break records 27 times you have to be KING SELASSIE 🥇🎓🥇
I almost cried..
Hey I was wondering what soundtrack you used for these videos?
I put him in the ranks with tiger woods, Kobe, Babe Ruth etc
'according to my math" XD
Haile caught my attention when he ran a 12:44 in the 5000 meters at Zurich. He took long distance running to another level. Years later, many runners followed in breaking the 13 min barrier. Daniel Komen, Tergat, Hissou, and Skah are also running gods but Bekele is the only runner than can compete with Haile's accomplishments.
I see Kenenisa Bekele as the 10'000m G.O.A.T.
To answer the question as to why Kemboi does not hold the under 20 WR, its because the U20 age category means that an athlete cannot turn 20 in the same year. For example an under 20 athlete competing in 2020 would have to be born in either the year 2001 or 2002. An athlete born in the year 2000 turns 20 in the same year, so is classed as a senior athlete rather than an under 20, even if they don’t turn 20 until December 31st of that year. Kemboi was born in November 1983 and ran his 26:30 in September 2003. So while he was 19 at the time of the race because he turned 20 later that year he is not classed as an under 20 athlete. Wanjiru on the other hand was born in November 1986 and ran his 26:41 in September 2005 which is the same year he turned 19 thus qualifying as an under 20 athlete. Unfortunately these age categories give athletes who are born late in the year a slight disadvantage over those born earlier in the year. Hope this helps.
I agree with haile being the GOAT of the 10 but bekele is def the 🐐 distance running
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More people have heard of Haile
The goat 🐐
Kembloi isn’t the world under 20 record holder because in the World Athletics (IAAF) rulebook, they have to remain under 20 for the rest of the calendar year, and Kemboi turned 20 that November.
I still got Bekele as the best 10k guy but good video
Na minha opinião é um dos melhores fundistas de todos os tempos!
I would pick bekele as the goat of the 10 000m When bekele was at his best, no one could compete with him. He had a better kick than haile, even after fast races (2004 / 2009 for exemple). He holds the world record and his top 10 times are slightly faster than haile, and 4 of them are under 26:30. Overall bekele was really the most dominant athlete in the 10 000m, almost always winning by a huge margin and no one was even close. Even tho his dominance lasted 6 years because he struggled with injuries. But huge respect to haile for his long dominance and very long career.
there is a lot of runner that holds world records that is still standing till now. like daniel komen who hold the 3000m indoor n outdoor record, hecham el gueroujj in 1500m n mile.... but no one could duplicate the great haile gebrselassie's 27 world record...bekele's record is breakable, haile's never.
@@pgdiaz5537 yeah with the help of technology they got broken
And this is why he the greatest distance runner of all time. His records and victories were run from the front, for many of his greatest runs he spent better half of the race on his own. He never sat back and kicked and his integrity as an athlete was never in doubt. Same goes for Kenenisa.
I think that honorable mentions at th very least have to go to the two trailblazers who showed what was possible and got the ball rolling in the 10,000m: Paavo Nurmi and Emil Zatopek. Both had training regimes that many thought were beyond the pale, but they proved themselves and often ran from the front. Nurmi never lost at 10,000m, and was so dominant that he ran with stopwatch in hand as his main competitor. Zatopek showed that surges could be an effective strategy, even though it is mostly associated with Kuts. Sadly, after the dominance of Haile and Bekele, we are going back to a world of runners trotting along until they make their kicks at the end. Who will be the great front runner willing to put it on the line and lead us out of the darkness?
Nicholas Kemboi, at a young 19 years of age, came out of nowhere to challenge one of the greatest 10K runners... Not only does he run the 8th fastest 10K of all time, but, as you said, he manages to shave 2 minutes off of his PR. How did that happen, and more importantly, what happened to the future of this promising athlete? It seems strange that he was able to improve upon his former time by a staggering 2 min., but was never able to improve upon the incredible time he managed to set during this race with Haile. Any thoughts?
Yeah, he is the GOAT.
Gebreselassie Did Run A 2:48 min. Marathon distance at age 15.😇🙏
Doesn't matter which distance we are talking about we always compare Haile with another runner. So this makes him G.O.A.T of distance running.
after bekele? yeah sure
According to the comment section only the birth can determine your marks eligibility as a record such as The 100m, it is set at 9.97 but evidently Bromell had run 9.84 before 20. Being he was born in 1995 that would make him 20 in 2015, even though Bromell was just 2 weeks before turning 20 on the day the race was held on the 25th of June 2015, his birthday 10 July 1995 so :/
There are several instances of "best teenage performances" not being the U20 world record, because of that stupid rule. Here are some: 100m: U20 WR: 9.97 - Trayvon Bromell (2014) Best teenage performance: 9.84 - Trayvon Bromell (2015) 200m: U20 WR: 19.93 - Usain Bolt (2004) Best teenage performance: 19.81 - Alonso Edward (2009) (same race as Bolt set the world record) 1500m: U20 3:28.81 - Ronald Kwemoi (2014) Best teenage performance: 3:28.68 - Jakob Ingebrigtsen (2020) Mile: U20 WR: 3:49.29 - William Biwott Tanui (2009) Best teenage performance: 3:48.50 - Asbel Kiprop (2009) 2000m: U20 WR: 4:56.25 - Tesfaye Cheru (2011) Best teenage performance: 4:50.01 - Jakob Ingebrigtsen (2020) 3000m: U20 WR: 7:28.19 - Yomif Kejelcha (2016) Best teenage performance: 7:27.72 - Eliud Kipchoge (2004) 10000m U20 WR: 26:41.75 - Samuel Wanjiru (2005) Best teenage performance: 26:30.03 - Nicholas Kemboi (2003) 110H: U20 WR: 13.12 - Liu Xiang (2002) Best teenage performance: 13.00 - Dayron Robles (2006) 400H: U20 WR: 48.02 - Danny Harris (1984) Best teenage performance: 47.24 - Kerron Clement (2005) 3000SC: U20 WR: 7:58.66 - Stephen Cherono (2001) Best teenage performance: 7:58.10 - Stephen Cherono (2002) Long Jump: U20 WR: 8.35 - Sergey Murgnov (2012) Best teenage performance: 8.68 - Juan Miguel Echevarria (2018) Triple Jump: U20 WR: 17.50 - Volker Mai (1985) Best teenage performance: 17.69 - Pedro Pablo Pichardo (2013) Shot Put: U20 WR: 21.14 - Konrad Bukowiecki (2016) Best teenage performance: 21.88 - Randy Barnes (1986) Discus Throw: U20 WR: 65.62 - Werner Reiterer (1987) Best teenage performance: 67.63 - Lawrence Okoye (2011) Hammer Throw: U20 WR: 78.33 - Olli-Pekka Karjalainen (1999) Best teenage performance: 80.34 - Igor Nikulin (1980)
Haile obviously had greater speed than Kenenisa in their speed prime. If he had concentrated on the 1500/Mile, Hicham would have been an also ran. I know Hicham beat him by a small margin indoors in the 1500, but we know Haile specialized in longer distances. Just my opinion, you know.
right!👍
Our boy Derek is coming for that record
Who is that?
fantastic video! I was wondering if you take requests? I have always been fascinated by some runner's styles and techniques, especially Vivian Cheruiyot. I think she runs as smooth as rudisha and kipchoge, but I cant really put my finger on why she runs so differently from the other women.
The G.O.A.T. no question.
no question is crazy
Haile ran so Kenenisa could run faster
Lasse Viren from Finland, maybe not best but one of the best
The improvement to WR is mainly dur to EPO
No
back to back 13 minute 5k's is just inhuman
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Micah_Kogo he was 20 years old when he competed in the event.
He is different to every other 10000m runner because he might be the greatest distance runner of all time.
after bekele
As few have said u20 is based on age you are that year not at time of race as has to he a cut off for world u20 champs - in uk all youth ages up to u17 based on school year bit then some had two years as u20 while some like myself had 3
Finally he is goat
RIP Sammy Wanjiru
Haile
HG IS THE GOAT!
The Greatest 10,000 runner of all time?...NO, he is simply THE GREATEST AT ANY DISTANCE EVENT EVER! I simply DO NOT CARE that his records have since been eclipsed. He has set and held, and mostly reset, so many of the records, and by margins that are too big to even comprehend in some cases; Lowering the WR in the 5,000 by ALMOST 11 SECONDS IN 1995!?! NO ONE DOES THIS!!! EVERY distance from the 5 to the Marathon has been with his name to it at one time or another, and was even the World Indoor Champion at 1,500 and 3,000 in 1999, as well as the 2,000m WR indoors. WHO can even claim to hold this man's jockstrap?
He could have run much faster with better pacing too. Sub 12:30 and sub 26:00
He may have been turning 20 in that calendar year. I’m not sure if it works this way on the world level, but in the US, if you are 19 on the day of the race and 20 by December 31st of that year, you cannot compete in U20.
Bekele = GOAT
Imo haile isnt the goat. Kenenisa is for me
bekele owe's two world records the 5000m and the 10000m...haile broke 27 world records fr 2000m up to the marathon...now who's d goat?
I didn't even know you could run 10,000m in track and field.
Nice video! I also make running videos
I think Gebresellasi, Bekele and nurmi is the all time greats bevause nurmi never lost a 10000 m race i hos carer
G.O.A.T = Gerbrselassie of all time :D
that's for real👍
Both in their prime Bekele wins, but it's close
I think 10000m future will goes to joshua cheptegei
26:30
Why am I this early?
You should make the video two seconds shorter lol
Ethiopia is legal running
I think Eliud kipchoge
Only at the marathon
Haile Gebrselassie
He is not the wj record holder as he turned 20 that year
Berkeley lost to El Guerrouj in the 5k world finals in 2004
“26:30>26:41”