Is Oilers lack of scoring during 5-on-5 play concerning?

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How do you feel about Arturs Silovs in this series? How do you feel about Stuart Skinner in this series? How concerning is the Oilers lack of scoring 5-on-5? How impressed are you with Elias Lindholm’s play? TSN Director of Scouting Craig Button joins Jay Onrait to share his thoughts.

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  • Button looks pissed his pick is getting out goalied, zero depth and out coached. Canucks fans knew they had the edge here. This isn't surprising

    @1983skeletor@1983skeletor10 күн бұрын
    • Yup...he's an idiot

      @G_Ellis606@G_Ellis60610 күн бұрын
    • It took 3 missed 5min majors, canucks own dman sabotaging them and their 3rd string goalie to win their first game against the canucks all season

      @omfg322@omfg32210 күн бұрын
    • lol, it’s only been 3 games. You can tell Canucks fans aren’t used to being in the playoffs. Calm down, all things are possible with McDavid

      @barstar888@barstar88810 күн бұрын
    • I would not say being outshot 94-51 in the series is feeling all that great actually. I'm cheering for the Canucks and I predicted them to win in seven, but if they continue this trend They will lose the series. This could easily be a 3-0 Edmonton or Vancouver lead in the series, That's just how close this series has been so far.

      @strawpaladin213@strawpaladin21310 күн бұрын
    • Remember the flames record when button was their GM? Hahahahahaha!

      @xboxrules8472@xboxrules847210 күн бұрын
  • Where are all the "oilers in 5" people at now??😂😂😂

    @Nickh4929@Nickh492910 күн бұрын
    • Gone. The "Oilers in 6" people are next on the chopping block.

      @billytessio6326@billytessio632610 күн бұрын
    • dEdmonton coiLers 🤣

      @T.D.-nurf0820@T.D.-nurf082010 күн бұрын
    • God Vancouver fans are the worst breed and I'm not even an oiler fan. Stfu already guys, you haven't won anything yet.

      @chucknorris172@chucknorris17210 күн бұрын
    • I'm still here lol 😆

      @shawn9297@shawn929710 күн бұрын
    • @@shawn9297 L

      @T.D.-nurf0820@T.D.-nurf082010 күн бұрын
  • No one should be surprised. Their schtick has always been riding McDrai and hanging on for dear life. Two generational future hall of famers does not make a championship lineup.

    @neostar63@neostar6310 күн бұрын
    • 3:58: Says it all here.

      @williamford9564@williamford956410 күн бұрын
    • Boom !

      @PacificNorthwest777@PacificNorthwest77710 күн бұрын
  • maybe its not "lack of depth scoring". maybe its the canucks playing excellent 5v5

    @unplugged123@unplugged12310 күн бұрын
    • its still lack of depth scoring whether whatever the reason is for that. An u cant win in playoffs if only first line and pp gets the goals

      @janituokko3811@janituokko381110 күн бұрын
    • The Oilers lack of depth scoring has been an issue well before this series. They've only scored 2 goals in these playoffs where neither McDavid or Draisaitl were on the ice. That's a problem. And it's been a problem the past few years. Vegas exposed their lack of scoring depth last year. Once they learned to not give the Oilers PPs, they exposed them as a one dimensional team and manhandled them 5-on-5.

      @pomerlain8924@pomerlain892410 күн бұрын
    • @@pomerlain8924 This is more about Vancouver in 5v5 and Goaltending. Edmonton's depth players are playing well but just can't put it in the net. Nuge has 10 points and is a +/- of zero so far in the playoff primarily shutting down the Opposing team. Those are good numbers! But the depth dries up after that... especially when you look at the +/-. just about every other Oiler is a liability on the ice outside of the Top 6 point getters. You are right that Vancouver is Exposing the lack of depth though! You have to Credit Vancouver for recognizing the weaknesses in the oilers and exploiting those weaknesses. They've really hit Ceci and Nurse hard on the stats sheet so far this series.

      @strawpaladin213@strawpaladin21310 күн бұрын
    • That's relative. If the canucks are playing great 5 on 5, then obviously edmonton is lacking great 5 on 5. Two different ways of saying the same thing.

      @cackoocacho1629@cackoocacho162910 күн бұрын
    • It's a "lack of playing the depth" too

      @JBrix86@JBrix8610 күн бұрын
  • Button looks flabbergasted at the success of the nux thus far

    @kevins862@kevins86210 күн бұрын
    • Pretty sure Button is flabbergasted by motion sensor lights

      @lindsayseal8504@lindsayseal850410 күн бұрын
    • button picked Canucks over nashville.

      @xboxrules8472@xboxrules847210 күн бұрын
  • Oilers are just the Leafs but instead their stars show up sometimes. Stars carry them, no defense, no goalie.

    @LFC-mr6yb@LFC-mr6yb10 күн бұрын
    • The difference is what division they play in. Weak. Western conference was much worse this year too.

      @disinformationworld9378@disinformationworld937810 күн бұрын
    • Their stars always show up in the playoffs. They are tied for 3rd fastest to 90 playoff points in NHL history. They both have a higher points per game in the playoffs than the regular season which is super rare, not even Wayne or Mario did that.

      @CdnElJefe@CdnElJefe10 күн бұрын
  • This is so funny. Analysts were saying Van was gonna get steamrolled. Van fans all knew we have far better D and goaltending, and that our offence was dramatically underestimated. Not to mention just the brutal grind Van brings to the table. More pain for Edmonton fans to come.

    @PacificNorthwest777@PacificNorthwest77710 күн бұрын
  • The better team is winning.... they are now 6-1 vs edmonton this season.

    @michaelpearson7441@michaelpearson744110 күн бұрын
  • I was so excited when Canucks got Lindholm, glad it’s starting to show!

    @0oCyrilo0@0oCyrilo010 күн бұрын
  • It's like pulling teeth to get these guys to say anything actually positive about the Canucks. It's always excuses for why the Canucks are winning

    @anthonyheinrichs8322@anthonyheinrichs832210 күн бұрын
    • Because the series should be 3-0 oilers. Canucks luck will run out

      @FlyingBirdman@FlyingBirdman9 күн бұрын
    • ​@FlyingBirdman 3-0 for Vancouver. They don't even have demko right now lol

      @kingbud4966@kingbud49669 күн бұрын
  • Leafs of the west here we go again

    @silent0snipe4@silent0snipe410 күн бұрын
    • Oilers are in the second round, leafs don't make it that far.

      @Ace96x10@Ace96x1010 күн бұрын
    • @@Ace96x10 ya because the oliers get gifted LA kings every fist round 🤣🤣

      @bryanwouters443@bryanwouters44310 күн бұрын
    • @@bryanwouters443 I doubt Vancouver would be doing well against LA. Oilers just match up well against them, just like Boston matches up well against Toronto. The Leafs would Fair much better against florida First round then Boston even though Florida matches up better against Boston. Every team has certain playstyles they do well against and others they do not... Vancouver is a tough out for Edmonton because of the way Vancouver plays the game. The best teams find a way to Match up well against everybody over a 7 game series...

      @strawpaladin213@strawpaladin21310 күн бұрын
    • @@strawpaladin213 Yeah right, Demko or Silovs against Talbot, c'mon......

      @xboxrules8472@xboxrules847210 күн бұрын
    • @@xboxrules8472 Vancouver has a terrible record against LA . LA is 6-1-3 in their past 10 vs Vancouver

      @strawpaladin213@strawpaladin21310 күн бұрын
  • What an absolute plug Button is.

    @nawtty8864@nawtty886410 күн бұрын
    • He waived Marty St Louis, traded Giguere in order to protect Fred Brathwaite and traded Marc Savard for a guy that never played a day in the league. Worst G.M. in Flames history

      @lindsayseal8504@lindsayseal850410 күн бұрын
    • What's a plug?

      @sktoh4469@sktoh446910 күн бұрын
    • @@sktoh4469 Button. He’s an idiot

      @nawtty8864@nawtty88649 күн бұрын
  • 97 had almost 30min TOI and still didn’t score 😂 can’t rely on him, Hymen or Drai when you’re triple shifting them …

    @royymartyy@royymartyy10 күн бұрын
    • Both him and Draisaitl played almost 30 minutes. Keep it up, LOL! Even if they some how managed to win the series they will be so gassed by the time they play the Avalanche or Stars, that they will have nothing left.

      @carletonrutherford1799@carletonrutherford179910 күн бұрын
    • That's because he is exhausted.

      @coryjohn4057@coryjohn405710 күн бұрын
  • Bottom line the Oilers are lacking, even if they win this series, no way chance are they a Stanley Cup championship team.

    @zigfield723@zigfield72310 күн бұрын
    • Not even close.

      @harmangill7509@harmangill750910 күн бұрын
  • What happened to the sweep 23 outta 24 tsn and sportsnet analysts predicted, saying an easy series win for the soilers

    @ShaneDavid-is7te@ShaneDavid-is7te10 күн бұрын
    • Let's be honest... They pay WAY too much attention to statistics. The series should be 2-1 Oilers statistically. They Paid too much attention to the predictive models saying Vancouver has almost no chance. Anybody who watched any of the games vs the Oilers this season would know the matchup is wrought with problems for the Oilers however. The Goaltending edge and Defense goes heavily to the Canucks, and The forwards are edge to Oilers only on the First line...

      @strawpaladin213@strawpaladin21310 күн бұрын
    • Saying that after the oilers got regularly season swept was pure delusion

      @headintheclouds6935@headintheclouds693510 күн бұрын
  • If the Canucks could stay out of the penalty box, it would be almost over.

    @nobuddy2012@nobuddy201210 күн бұрын
  • The Van Goalie has brutally outplayed Skinner. Oilers 1 line is enough to win with even half decent goaltending vs Van, but they aren't getting even that from Skinner.

    @Ace96x10@Ace96x1010 күн бұрын
  • Buttons is the the cnn reporter of tsn very biased angry lil man

    @rdeh1678@rdeh167810 күн бұрын
  • Craig Button is an icon. I'm quietly delighted that he's a media consultant because I adore his intelligence and knowledge? Also he's easy on my old horse eyes. GO CANUCKS GO! 🤟🦄✨♥️

    @twifightsparkill@twifightsparkill10 күн бұрын
    • What in the world?

      @ShawnLangford@ShawnLangford10 күн бұрын
    • ​@@ShawnLangford LOL I had the same reaction.

      @seal9454@seal945410 күн бұрын
  • i kept telling myself to not watch the game, so i succumbed to just watching an iphone app score board watching when oils scored a goal with 2 minutes left, each remaining second felt like eternity to me. whoa we won! so happy!!!

    @eonk5703@eonk570310 күн бұрын
  • They keep playing their 1st line for half the game fatigue will set in eventually. You could also say skinner being played every game is wearing him out.

    @omfg322@omfg32210 күн бұрын
  • Every Oilers coach overplays McDavid because he has good enough stamina to not look tired… sure, McDavid at 80% is still your best player. But imagine what he could be doing late in the third if he had “only” played 18-20 mins through the first 50. That’s where you get the magic, when their D are exhausted and McDavid is not.

    @y0utubedude96@y0utubedude9610 күн бұрын
  • Does Edmonton even get shots when they are not on the powerplay?

    @tylerdurden4006@tylerdurden40069 күн бұрын
  • Skinner should make a coupe of saves but fuck do the oilers leave him out to dry all time I’m looking at blocked shots, hits, faceoffs the canucks always finish their checks

    @HamptonHelly@HamptonHelly10 күн бұрын
  • I’m just gonna say this. The oilers haven’t had a great goalie since Dwayne Roloson since then they’ve been through a ton of goalies and you know who’s been there the whole time Dustin Schwartz their goalie coach when does he get fired??? Our goalie coach clearly sucks at his job but he’s friends with the owners so he stays. Old boys club in Edmonton still.

    @UnhingedCanadian@UnhingedCanadian10 күн бұрын
  • Oilers have always been nothing but powerplay merchants and a 2 player team. They have no depth. They have no goaltending. The Canucks would sweep these clowns if Demko was healthy.

    @Wafflenobs@Wafflenobs10 күн бұрын
    • 100%. We probably would have been up 3-0 in the series if it wasn't for Ian Cole's unfortunate own-goal in OT in game 2.

      @seal9454@seal945410 күн бұрын
  • LETS GO NUCKS

    @tylerthomas709@tylerthomas70910 күн бұрын
  • I hope they keep going after McDiver in game 4. Keep grinding him into the dirt and close out the series in 5

    @StreetFig@StreetFig9 күн бұрын
  • Silovs is bailing his team out. Skinner is not.

    @ML-my8qq@ML-my8qq10 күн бұрын
  • Sensing a strong bias for Edmonton. I guess he is entitled to his opinion.

    @ekdnlt@ekdnlt10 күн бұрын
  • Button is livid. LOL. No shit, top heavy with goalie vs. balanced with team defense. You should've bet on the latter.

    @Xyy2387@Xyy238710 күн бұрын
  • cope harder Button.. he looks like he wants to cry

    @denizdowntown6385@denizdowntown638510 күн бұрын
  • Craig button....the canadian darren pang....biggest joke in the NHL reporter circle..

    @Odysseus38@Odysseus3810 күн бұрын
  • Why doesn’t TSN make Canucks content?

    @beingian@beingian9 күн бұрын
  • What kind of stupid title is that? Lack of 5 on 5 scoring is concerning for any team in any regard. "Is the lack of competent goaltending 5 on 5, concerning for Team X?" 😆 Never change, TSN. You guys are the most hilarious in the business. Also, never learn what audio mixing is either. It's always a lottery with what exponent of volume boost will be required for your videos. 🍻

    @cackoocacho1629@cackoocacho162910 күн бұрын
  • No way this canuck team loses 3 of the next 4. Two (if it goes seven) are in Vancouver. Canucks are getting in Edmonton's head. They're winning with their (supposed) top two goalies out. Demko due back almost any time. Oilers are all but toast.

    @alexandermacdougall7873@alexandermacdougall787310 күн бұрын
    • Lets be real here, silovs is not our #3 just because he was third string. Theirs a reason he is in net and not De Smithe. At this point even if Demko gets passed to play you probably leave Silovs in unless you want to give him a break, especially if Demko isn't 100%

      @shinuku77@shinuku7710 күн бұрын
    • @@shinuku77 Yeah my dad and I were talking about this during second intermission, I dont think we even play Demko until we know for sure hes 100% with the way Silovs has been playing. Its his crease until Tocc deems necessary that he isnt the guy anymore.

      @IanStrain23328@IanStrain2332810 күн бұрын
    • @@shinuku77 a 3rd string is a 3rd string. He hasn't even played 10 NHL games before being put in to feed the wolves 🐺

      @Joseph-T543@Joseph-T54310 күн бұрын
    • @@Joseph-T543 yeah he WAS a third string goalie, now he's our star goalie that's putting the team on his back

      @shinuku77@shinuku7710 күн бұрын
    • @@shinuku77 you don't need to correct other people on what a 3rd string goalie means. He is 23. He has never played much hockey in a single season. But now he's in the spotlight. His is still a distant 3rd string goalie. Rick Tocchet didn't know what he would do when Demko and DeSmith were both out with injuries.

      @Joseph-T543@Joseph-T54310 күн бұрын
  • Button said he had zero concern with the Leafs' offense going into the playoffs....

    @fishleaf18@fishleaf1810 күн бұрын
  • Same old story with the Oilers going on for years, like the Maple Leafs and their continuing saga in the East.

    @roguetrooper6205@roguetrooper620510 күн бұрын
  • Oilers have one line, that’s it.

    @lukewould4982@lukewould498210 күн бұрын
  • It should be !! Only time they score is on a power play maybe

    @terrycorbeil7941@terrycorbeil794110 күн бұрын
  • More you put the kid in more confidence

    @user-pl8ij9et9w@user-pl8ij9et9w10 күн бұрын
  • I don’t trust skinner and I never have , Mcdri are always hiding the mistakes by scoring

    @unknownshopper4024@unknownshopper402410 күн бұрын
  • Short Answer: Yes Long Answer: Hell Yes

    @andreisison9256@andreisison92569 күн бұрын
  • Form out of the window? Silovs no form? How much did he lose?

    @Dub23zero@Dub23zero10 күн бұрын
  • what is Button's record of teams playing?.. why is he so animated that oilers are not performing... yet when we talks about the Canucks he seems low key

    @LarryNg-mx8qz@LarryNg-mx8qz9 күн бұрын
  • Oilers can not beat the Canucks without Kelly Sutherland

    @operadad@operadad10 күн бұрын
  • Lack of scoring by anyone other then McDavid and draistl

    @timw4369@timw436910 күн бұрын
    • Edmonton Defense has been scoring, other lines besides McDavids needs to step up, not impressed with other forward lines.

      @pushnook@pushnook10 күн бұрын
    • Did you watch Mattias Ekholm in this series? 👀 🙈

      @Joseph-T543@Joseph-T54310 күн бұрын
    • Other lines are still sleeping, Edmonton is now a one line team with a struggling goal tender, may have to break the super line up and unite them only on power plays.

      @pushnook@pushnook9 күн бұрын
  • It's obvious these guys at TSN are very pissed 😢 All they talk about is why and how Edmonton should win. There is nothing good about the other team that keeps beating them.

    @alexc8294@alexc82949 күн бұрын
  • Yes

    @GarthCamp@GarthCamp10 күн бұрын
  • Yeah take away the PP from PP merchants what do you expect would happen?

    @disinformationworld9378@disinformationworld937810 күн бұрын
  • It's no secret this goes back to last year's playoffs. The way to beat Edmonton is to play them five on five

    @mvgamer9637@mvgamer963710 күн бұрын
  • Oilers had 1 high danger chance.

    @ozzydo2314@ozzydo231410 күн бұрын
  • Trade them all - Leaf fans

    @stevelouis4664@stevelouis466410 күн бұрын
  • Don’t bother watching the video the answer is yes.

    @BenjaminDaCunha-ys8ty@BenjaminDaCunha-ys8ty10 күн бұрын
  • 1 line won't cut it.

    @8888ate@8888ate10 күн бұрын
  • Not sure Craig knows what the "rope-a-dope" strategy entails...

    @johnnymacrae1069@johnnymacrae10699 күн бұрын
  • How TF are they going to score if they don't play?

    @JBrix86@JBrix8610 күн бұрын
  • It’s okay mcdavid will play 50 mins next game 😂

    @canada1966@canada196610 күн бұрын
  • settle down Craig... he must have money on the oilers

    @mickeymikkelson5337@mickeymikkelson533710 күн бұрын
  • button wants cry

    @SpaceLord_MtherFcker420@SpaceLord_MtherFcker42010 күн бұрын
  • Canucks would be 3-0 with Demko healthy

    @chrisnelson2770@chrisnelson277010 күн бұрын
    • Shilovs is the only reason that it’s not 3-0 for the Oilers.🤦‍♂️

      @brucecarter6205@brucecarter620510 күн бұрын
    • @@brucecarter6205 yet imagine if we had our Vezina calibre goaltender 🤔. Pretty pathetic on the Oilers part

      @chrisnelson2770@chrisnelson277010 күн бұрын
    • @@chrisnelson2770 no, getting badly outshot, outplayed, and dominated by a team with 1 good line is embarrassing. Imagine what this series would look like if the Canucks had Skinner.🤣

      @brucecarter6205@brucecarter620510 күн бұрын
    • @@brucecarter6205 badly out shot? Sure. Badly out played? Nah. Oilers can't even beat our AHL goalie without the help from tank commander Ian Cole 😂. Canucks have been winning 1 goal games in the third period all season, because we can actually play team defense. Why would I imagine what we'd look like with Skinner? We'd never sign him. 🤔 You should be crying tears of joy that Demko isn't in net and you've got an actual chance of winning

      @chrisnelson2770@chrisnelson277010 күн бұрын
    • @@chrisnelson2770 with Demko in net the Oilers would be up 3-0. As I said, Silovs is the ONLY reason the series sits at 2-1 for the Canucks.

      @brucecarter6205@brucecarter62059 күн бұрын
  • buttons looks miserable again . as a matter of fact all of TSN's panel always looks miserable whenever the oilers lose.. sad

    @jesscasalla224@jesscasalla22410 күн бұрын
  • Craig Button does not have the Systems Analysis experience @ any level to tell you whats happeneing in this series beyond the eye-test.....the Canucks are Outcoaching the Oilers badly, and the Oiler System was deconstructed last year completely but not improved....there is no reason to expect a better result than last year ....Oilers ownership gambled that Skinner would grow and evolve into a Playoff Goalie and that was all they were missing...to expect that after last years meltdown of record proportions was skethchy @ best.

    @BobsUruncle-dl7cs@BobsUruncle-dl7cs10 күн бұрын
  • The oilers need to be better , coaching , 2,3 & 4th lines …. The only people doing well is Boosh, Ekholm , Hyman , Drai and McD… every1 else sucks . Put pickard in net , stop playing the Russian 5 for 30min a game , we need lots of players to step up

    @bradenahmet343@bradenahmet34310 күн бұрын
  • he know shxt. oiler is leaf 2.0 or worst after 6 yrs top 3 draft pick still empty hands since 2010 and 5 plus top 10

    @MrPchui@MrPchui9 күн бұрын
  • KO HOE 🍄

    @atrealdino6667@atrealdino66679 күн бұрын
  • Hey Button! Cry moreeee

    @Joseph-T543@Joseph-T54310 күн бұрын
  • Button is a complete hack

    @tectonictv8274@tectonictv82749 күн бұрын
  • I cant see either of these teams beating the winner of DAL/COL

    @harmangill7509@harmangill750910 күн бұрын
    • A lot of people didn't see Vancouver beating Nashville,and even more saw Edmonton practically sweeping Vancouver, yet here we are

      @alexandermacdougall7873@alexandermacdougall787310 күн бұрын
    • Yeah vancouver is too underrated they know how to get it done on both sides of the ice.

      @hammatymee@hammatymee10 күн бұрын
    • @alexandermacdougall7873 I said canucks oilers was gunna go 7 and it's a coin flip. Oilers have game breakers at forward in their top 6, canucks have a good team throughout the roster. But Dallas and Collorado have both these things.

      @harmangill7509@harmangill750910 күн бұрын
    • @@harmangill7509 Canucks were the president trophy leaders for over half the season..... they can ball with Dallas/Colorado no problem.

      @GreenBeanGreenBean@GreenBeanGreenBean10 күн бұрын
    • ​@@GreenBeanGreenBeanThey've only beaten those 2 teams, combined, 1 time this season.

      @pomerlain8924@pomerlain892410 күн бұрын
  • Put it this way, the oilers have won one game against this team all year…. And it came from Ian Cole fucking up on all four goals in game 1 and then the own goal in game 2 😂. Otherwise they have looked like absolute shit 😂.

    @NVPasutto@NVPasutto10 күн бұрын
  • The spoilers literally play one line over and over lol…. Can’t win championships like that. And Skinner is not a number one goalie not even close. Oilers should check into Latvian beer league goalies, I hear they’re pretty good.

    @NVPasutto@NVPasutto10 күн бұрын
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