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In heaven am I going to see God sitting on the throne or am I going to see God and Jesus sitting on the throne?
Two or more independent witnesses are needed to testify of truth. This means God and Jesus are separate.
@@keithp8357 NO MAN has seen the Father at any time...and Jesus said "if you have seen Me, you have seen the Father" so you will see Jesus, but seeing Jesus is seeing Jesus and the Father. The Holy Spirit dwells IN US and will represent us at the judgement seat. You will see Jesus, be it a good discussion or a bad one we will all stand before Him
If we love and obey Jesus, our life will be a light to others and draw them in to the father's presence, sharing the simplicity of the gospel. We do not need to share the way religion teaches. More people leave Christianity today because they have no foundation.
@@justincuvelier9569 We as Christians don't share "as religion teaches" by delivering the gospel....religion is of man, so no wonder its less effective but this notion that behaving a certain way manipulates more to come to your specific church, well isn't that the same as the fraud the Mormon church delivers the message?
I was a a Mormon for over 20 years. In 2019 I got saved after months and months of looking into biblical Christianity. These videos by Apologia helped immensely with some of the big questions I had when comparing Mormonism to Christianity. I used to listen to all the Mormon evangelism videos at work, constantly. My life has so much peace now that I have the true Jesus Christ, but it’s also gotten harder. I was married to a Mormon woman, and after I was saved, it resulted in divorce. There’s a lot of tension with me and family, all because I chose Christ over Joseph. I’ve lost many friends and family and opportunities because of this, and I don’t regret it at all. Jesus is a far greater treasure than anything else this world has to offer. Jeff, I want to thank you for these videos, and how God has used them and used you for his glory to share the gospel. I pray that your guys’ evangelism increases and that more people will listen who are Mormon and that God works in their hearts. God bless!!
God bless you! Jesus said that he would divide people and families. The truth naturally divides. To be worthy of Jesus and eternal life one must side with God's truth even if it divides his own family. John 10:27-29
@@danielmeakin All you need to do is repent of your idolatry and any other sins. The moment you do that God will forgive you of all your sins and give you his righteousness, which is the righteousness of God. 2 Corinthians 5:21 I John 1:9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. Joseph Smith and every LDS prophet since him have preached a gospel of “do,” negating the gospel of “done” that Jesus preached and was. The LDS church is all about what it and its members must still do and be if they want to live with God (and be a god) one day. The true church is all about proclaiming what Christ has DONE to make us right with God now for all eternity. It’s a certainty. Jesus Christ canceled the record of debt that was held against us. All you need to do is accept Christ by faith. It isn't because of who you are and what you must and can do for God. It is because of who God is and what He did for you in sending Jesus to be the sacrificial offering for your sins. To be your substitute on the cross and to satisfy the demands of God's law that stands against you. Christ has done the one work that was necessary to reconcile you to God. Christ has done the one act of righteousness that could bring justification and life to all men. All Christ is asking with open arms is for you to lay down your religiosity and works at the foot of the cross and allow Christ to take it. Salvation is quite simple. Luke 18 And He also told this parable to some people who trusted in themselves that they were righteous, and viewed others with contempt: 10 “Two men went up into the temple to pray, one a Pharisee and the other a tax collector. 11 The Pharisee stood and was praying this to himself: ‘God, I thank You that I am not like other people: swindlers, unjust, adulterers, or even like this tax collector. 12 I fast twice a week; I pay tithes of all that I get.’ 13 But the tax collector, standing some distance away, was even unwilling to lift up his eyes to heaven, but was beating his breast, saying, ‘God, be merciful to me, the sinner!’ 14 I tell you, this man went to his house justified rather than the other; for everyone who exalts himself will be humbled, but he who humbles himself will be exalted.” God bless you.
What's sad is that you left a false religion to join another one. Jeff is a false teacher. We're not saved by repenting of all sins and doing any other sacrifices, we're saved by faith alone in what Jesus accomplished for us on the cross. Being God and the perfectly sinless lamb, he paid for all our sins by pouring his precious blood on the cross and resurected three days later for our justification. You believe it, you're saved, you don't believe it or mock it, you perish.
@@gethsemane-777 I'm not sure I follow. Repentance is directing all our faith to Christ instead of to other objects, yes? I'm not trying to follow Jeff although I've found his videos helpful as an ex-mormon; I read Isaiah 44 yesterday as he recommended to a Mormon on one of these and God spoke to me through those verses like I haven't heard him speak to me for many years. Honestly the last time I felt that way was when I read the Book of Mormon as a boy. My understanding now though is those feelings were from a false God because Mormon doctrine contradicts God's Word in the Bible and therefor what I felt was not from God but was of the flesh. The feelings I had yesterday are of God because they were in response to and align with his written Word whereas the feelings I had as a boy were in response to false teachings from a false prophet and contradict His Word and must be a pseudo-spiritual experience derived from the flesh. We can be sanctified though through our faith in Christ and a separation from sin can occur if it is the will of God, yes?
@@jlewis8145 Thank you for your response. I am in a better place today I believe God is leading me from darkness. I love the parable you shared from Luke I will meditate on it more and pray for mercy.
He’s running in circles but you can tell it’s because he’s afraid of everything he’s been taught in his life being wrong. Praying the Holy Spirit will convict him and he’ll be saved.
Yes that’s what we should do but it’s sad that he been believing in that Satanic Polygamous God name Elohim and that False Jesus known as The Mormon Jesus who is a False Christ.
Or maybe he's not wrong but has the same level of conviction in his faith as the pastor but isn't as skilled in debate or as well versed in scripture. Humble yourself.
@@malignantmorningstar6289 he's definitely just wrong
@@malignantmorningstar6289 Certainly he has the same level of conviction and his faith and that’s understandable but so does every single person on this planet And speaking of Faith based religions This really isn’t a matter of faith this is a matter of context The Mormon teaching does not line up with the biblical world Christian view I think that was kind of the main point of this conversation There’s nothing wrong with people having their own faith But In this conversation we’re talking about theology Scripture history And the identity and persons of God
@@malignantmorningstar6289 So it's "not humble" to say that a man who is wrong is wrong? Are you serious? You are being lukewarm and that is not good. You need to read Revelation 3:15
The gift I see in Jeff is the willingness to truly listen before rebuttal. A very hard gift to master.
Jeff your ability to quote scripture on the fly to support your arguments through plain reading and logic is nothing short of astounding.
Couldn’t agree more he reminds me of Sam shamoun
But not impossible. The Bible says Study to show they self approve
Hmm Jesus said John 14:26 For the Holy Ghost shall teach you in the same hour what ye ought to say. Luke 12:12 But the Comforter, who is the Holy Ghost whom the Father will send in My name, He shall teach you all things and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you. How will He bring it you our remembrance if you don't know it 😅? That's why we gotta read and study, and Meditate on the word of God. And observe it Joshua 1:8
It’s called the holly spirit
Jeff is literally Michael Jordan when it comes to these situations!
To all you people insulting this Mormon: follow Jeff’s example and show respect to the lost.
Steven Martin hi Steven
how are mormons lost?? i can never get an answer from non mormon they always tiptoe around it or change the subject in all honesty what an ignorant thing for you to say they are lost
stan price in Christian lingo, “lost” refers to those who are not in Christ, according to Christian orthodoxy, Mormons and not in Christ, therefore they are lost. Or “unsaved” it is not an insult but rather a title
@@getdownto311 When you're on the wrong road going in the wrong direction. You're lost. So not believing the map of truth in order to get you to the place you desire to go, you're lost. Like this young man, If you believe in a Jesus all the way to the point of the resurrection and then change everything about who He is. You're lost because you believe in another Christ. That's not skirting around the question.plain and simple.
@@getdownto311 It's a false religion, it does not follow the bible, Mormon''s have their own bible and doctrine, and that is called operating in the doctrine of men.
That moment when a Christian knows Mormonism better than a Mormon
Hale Hafa no, they aren’t.
Are you being hypothetical, Mr. Copy and Paste ? No matter how many times you copy and paste your lies, they are still lies and meant to deceive. You have no power among God's children. Shame on you. Repent and ask God to help you learn the truth.
Jeff knows one thing and that is how to manipulate the scriptures. This servant of God is maybe 18 or 19. Jeff is way up on him in years and experience, I mean he probably attended the school of anti-Christ and how to manipulate people. I do believe that God will find more favor in his young apprentice who is doing his best to spread the gospel of truth and light vs, the one that is making every effort to destroy ones faith. Sort of like Cain and Able.
Mormons wouln't be mormons if they really knew what they were following.
I think this actually happens often ,especially if born into a church..Or even if they door knocked and brought someone in. People don't always know the deeper teachings,in the church they attend.
What I see is a man who grew up in the Mormon church in Utah for the first time has a competent, well studied biblical teacher be able to articulate what the Bible says. He instantly falls back and hides behind “same Jesus. I reject what you say.” Mainly because it upends his entire identity, his families culture, and is terrifying to him. Well done Jeff.
I greave for this man, because you can tell in his heart he wanted the truth that he was hearing to be wrong but somewhere deep inside he know it was right. May God open his eyes and deliver him from those beliefs💙
If GOD did open his eyes, it will not be to the trinity - which is quite silly if you think about it, as this guy spent the bulk of his time preaching a doctrine and message that is completely unlike the doctrine and teachings of Christ - oh the irony
@@smalltimer4370Mormonism is a false religion and Joseph Smith will receive what he deserves for trying to deceive and lead others away from the true Christ
@@smalltimer4370 The Bible from start to finish points to the trinity. You might refuse to believe that fact but that is truth. I challenge you to ask him for his truth and I can guarantee that you’ll fine it in the trinity. May God guide you and protect you always. God bless you.
@@Jayb2428 The Bible does not point the trinity - what a silly thing to say - the Bible is complete and explicit, in-that there is only one source alone and by Himself of whom and to whom are all things - that is the GOD and Father of Jesus Christ alone. Of this we are assured, as Jesus Christ Himself testified it. And so while the people of this world keep looking for ways to embellish the plain truth of scripture with lies, they do so at the expense of Jesus' teachings and commandments, and all because a group of degenerate men said so - not Jesus, or any approved prophet, but very, very clearly, a group of degenerate men having no place whatsoever in the written truth of scripture. And so, in response to your challenge I would answer in truth - that I have pleaded GOD for the truth, and that His Holy Spirit revealed it, as it was revealed to Jesus Christ - the truth of GOD without the addition or removal of anything. That is what GOD's servant and follower of Christ is now testifying to - the truth revealed by GOD, against the lies of men. That is why Jesus Christ did not worship, teach or preach a triune god at any point in His ministry. That is also why, there is not one single mention of anyone worshipping such a god in all of Bible history. That is also why there are no declarations or revelations of such a god(triune) in all Bible history. And finally, that is why there is no such god taught or revealed in the doctrine of godliness established by Jesus Christ on earth. True followers of Christ will worship, teach and preach as Jesus did on earth - and we all know without a doubt, that Jesus did not worship, teach or preach a triune god in His ministry - no one, in all of Bible history did so in-fact. - you have been deceived friend, repent and beg the one true GOD and Father of Jesus Christ for mercy, so that your eyes may be opened, as others were opened before you. Repent so that you may worship in truth as our Lord Jesus Christ worshipped in truth. Repent so that you may testify to the truth as He testified to the truth - the time to stop carrying-out Satan's lies is now! - amen
As a Christian I just learned so much about my own religion watching this. Good stuff
Mormonism is dangerous
Christianity is not a religion, it’s a heart change, but ultimately a relationship with God. Just thought I’d clear that up
@@owenwilliams4711 From Google "the belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, especially a personal God or gods." I'm pretty sure Christianity qualifies.
@@jaihummel5057 yeah no it doesn’t say that at all. What google does say is “the religion based on the person and teachings of Jesus of Nazareth, or its beliefs and practices”.
Christiany.... is not a religion my friend, although it is technically considered as one.
40 yrs Mormon, cast out for my falling and sinning. Unable to work my sins off so I’ve turned to searching for the true Jesus and for love and forgiveness. God bless you Jeff for spreading truth.
Kurt... you are loved by Jesus BEYOND MEASURE... receive...
Do you remember what it was that convinced you that LDS is false?
Or, are you simply trying to find a way to receive "forgiveness" without having to do all it takes (not to say you haven't tried). Of course it's difficult, but the solution isn't to find an "easier" way, especially if the easier way doesn't result in complete repentance nor forgiveness. Christ is willing to forgive all. All it takes is your complete heart. It's not about the "work" you have to do. Work simply represents where your heart truly is. If you say, "Lord, I give my heart completely to you... on the following terms..." Then where is your heart, truly? Don't give up.
@@Leif208are you yelling him to not give up on Lds
I grieve for this Mormon & is really crying for help & thats the beginning of CONVICTION THANK YOU FATHER GOD. HALLELUJAH!
“It’s easier to fool someone than to convince them that they’ve been fooled.”😔Please Pray for the Mormons, they are good people, just lost.🙏♥️ Thank you for the work you do Jeff! All glory to God! God is so good! 🙏♥️ Praise Jesus!
9:11 Morman : I reject your interpretation of the text. Christian: I just quoted it.
Why do you rejected the Bible? You can not become God's! Of your own planet. Repent or burn in hell
Loved that part!
David Fuller buddy of mine the other day told me I sounded like a Pharisee when I was speaking so cold about the lost. I’m not saying you are. But. In first peter when it says always be ready to give a reason for hope that is within you. It says to sanctify Christ in your heart. Win the soul not the argument. Rome wasn’t built in a day and sometimes god calls for years.
grizzlytomahawk so you’re that guy👌
@@davidfuller4320 not sure that's really going to win anyone until/unless you show their follies as well give some evidence of what is correct....many of them are brainwashed and lost in deception so they need a guide to find the truth again and or for the 1st time.
I was born into an LDS family, baptized into that faith. I've been inactive for almost 8 years now. But part of me has struggled with missing going to their church. I've been going to Christian churches. I've watched a few other pastors talk about these specific things, but never heard the things you said in this video. I've been praying for God to reveal His truth to me. I only want His truth, while following scripture. Then I watched this, while washing dishes. I'm a mom of 6 kids btw. I found myself overwhelmed, in tears. I feel like I've been starved of the truth my entire life. While being fed a delicious poison, that lulled me to sleep, leaving my mind and heart to find comfort in their lies. God's truth isn't easy or comfortable to know... what the Mormon religion leans on is giving comforting answers to things that don't feel good. Like being sealed in temples to your family for time and eternity. Like knowing you'll see them again in Heaven. I'm grieving heavily while I let go of those beliefs. But cannot argue with the things you said and the scriptures you shared. I will indeed be wrestling with God, on my face, as I accept Him, and His perfect word. Thank you for doing this work, Thank you God for answering me.
_Thus says Yahweh, your Redeemer, and he who formed you from the womb: _*_"I am Yahweh, who makes all things_*_ who _*_alone_*_ stretches out the heavens; who spreads out the earth _*_by myself_* - Isaiah 44.24 Behold the written truth! With that said, the truth is revealed to those whose hearts are open to receive it. _In that same hour Jesus rejoiced in the Holy Spirit, and said, "I thank you, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that you have hidden these things from the wise and understanding, and revealed them to little children. Yes, Father, for so it was well-pleasing in your sight"_ - Luke 10.21 _Then he opened their minds, that they might understand the Scriptures_ - Luke 24.45 _The things which you have heard from me among many witnesses, commit the same to faithful men, who will be able to teach others also... 15Give diligence to present yourself approved by God, a workman who doesn't need to be ashamed, properly handling the Word of Truth_ - 2 Tim 2.12, 15 Whereas Jesus warned of the corruption of the true doctrine following His departure; _For I know that after my departure, vicious wolves will enter in among you, not sparing the flock. 30Men will arise from among your own selves, speaking perverse things, to draw away the disciples after them_ - Acts 20.29-30 _But the Spirit says expressly that in later times some will fall away from the faith, paying attention to seducing spirits and doctrines of demons, 2through the hypocrisy of men who speak lies, branded in their own conscience as with a hot iron_ - 1 Tim 4.1-2 For which we are warned and guided to guard ourselves; _Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God. For many false prophets have gone out into the world_ - 1 John 4.1 And that is where false doctrines fit-in; _For the time will come when they will not listen to the sound doctrine, but, having itching ears, will heap up for themselves teachers after their own lusts_ - 2 Tim 4.3 As it is obvious that many religious institutions have fallen-away from the true doctrine of godliness, it is therefore our duty to heed Jesus' warnings and council; _But false prophets also arose among the people, as false teachers will also be among you, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies, denying even the Master who bought them, bringing on themselves swift destruction. 2Many will follow their immoral ways, and as a result, the way of the truth will be maligned. 3In covetousness they will exploit you with deceptive words: whose sentence now from of old doesn't linger, and their destruction will not slumber_ - 2 Peter 1.1-3 _not to be quickly shaken in your mind, nor yet be troubled, either by spirit, or by word, or by letter as from us, saying that the day of Christ had come. 3Let no one deceive you in any way. For it will not be, unless the departure comes first, and the man of sin is revealed, the son of destruction, 4he who opposes and exalts himself against all that is called God or that is worshiped; so that he sits as God in the temple of God, setting himself up as God_ - 2 Thes 2.2-4 And who is it that loves lies instead of the truth? _Because of this, God sends them a working of error, that they should believe a lie; 12that they all might be judged who didn't believe the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness_ - 2 Thes 2.11 _But you are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if it is so that the Spirit of God dwells in you. But if any man doesn't have the Spirit of Christ, he is not his_ - Ro 8.9 _You hypocrites! Well did Isaiah prophesy of you, saying, 8'These people draw near to me with their mouth, and honor me with their lips; but their heart is far from me. 9And in vain do they worship me, teaching as doctrine rules made by men'"_ - Matthew 15.7-9 Having said all that, how do we identify true followers of Christ from the false ones? The answer is simple, in-that we look to those who are actually following in Jesus' footsteps, as-in, worshiping and preaching as Jesus did. And we all know Jesus did not worship nor preach a triune god at any point in His ministry - behold the true doctrine of Christ! Stay strong and keep petitioning GOD for enlightenment brother!
If your family members love Jesus and turn to Him in repentance for their sins, you will see them again in Heaven. If they are sincere in wanting to believe in the one true God, they just need to be shown the contradictions between what the LDS church teaches and what the Bible actually says. I left the Greek Orthodox church when I began to see things in the church's teachings that didn't line up with scripture. So I completely understand what you're going through. It can be gut wrenching. But I can tell you with 100% certainty that God will carry you through and provide what you need. He is faithful. It took almost 30 years for my mom to come to Jesus. I never thought I'd see it. You'll be OK.
Amen..merry Christmas n happy new year...
Hi, Padilla. I feel your struggle and your pain. Please read my post above (the long one). I believe it will help you. God bless. Alan
This is one of the best testimonies I’ve read. “Being fed a delicious poison” shows a wise assessment of your situation and provides such sincere evidence of a contrite heart. What a gift it is to be comforted by the true God of creation.
As a Mormon questioning my faith and being brought into the light by God through His followers, I just want to say it is worth it. You are reaching people and bringing them into the fold. And for that I thank you. I have been desiring to have a relationship with God but was having a hard time in the LDS faith. Now, reading the Bible, I feel like I KNOW God
Jesus was no trinitarian True followers of Christ, will follow in Jesus' footsteps. That is to say, to worship, teach and preach as Jesus did. And we all know without a doubt that Jesus did not worship, teach or preach a triune god. In fact, we can say without a doubt that there is not one single person in all of Bible history who did such a thing.
John 10:27-29 God bless you!
true followers of Christ believe that He is God in the flesh Who redeems us through His work of righteousness on the cross on our behalf because we do not have the power to save ourselves from God's wrath. God Himself paid the price. God the Father, God the Son, God the Holy Spirit. Jesus Himself said He is the great I AM, He is the Alpha and Omega, and that because they saw Him, they saw the Father, because they are ONE.
@@masteringfibromyalgia Who told you that followers of Christ believe that Jesus is GOD in the flesh? Or that it was GOD the Father, GOD the Son and GOD the Holy Spirit who payed the price? And finally, from where has the expression 'the great I AM' come from? That being said, it would appear that your testimony consists of made-up terms and definitions, rather than the written truth of GOD.
What fold?
The third wheel (Blake)has great patience. Slow to speak, and quick to listen. God bless him, and all three of them.
As a former, devout, true believing, temple attending, mormon of 48 years, what you are doing, ie planting seeds and asking thought provoking questions, is good! It is the seeds planted, and the questions that got me searching the bible to back up my beliefs that helped lead me to see it wasn't there, and ultimately to recognize that religion was not the truth.
@April G just ask them for a copy of the Book of Mormon and they will give you one for free. Then sit down and read it with an inquiring and open mind, after which you should pray with sincerity of heart and ask Heavenly Father if it is a true book. God bless.
@April G Reading the Holy Bible will not verify if the Book of Mormon is true or not, altho there are parts in the BoM that support the Bible and visa versa. It's best to read the BoM then pray about it...ask God if it's True scripture.
@@yunginspirit3162 - That's assuming on your part that the Book of Mormon is a greater authority than the Bible. The Bible does not state/teach of other gods like the LDS do, including the possibility of becoming a "god". In other words, Mormons find the Bible false, if you are being intellectually honest. With all due respect, reading the Bible will verify the Book of Mormon as false. As the conversation in this video portrays, Isaiah 43 and John 1 fundamentally torpedo the crucial question of who Jesus was/is according to LDS teachings. Additionally, there is no teaching in the Bible linking Lucifer to Christ as "brothers".
@@machtnichtsseimann While many LDS people believe that because of the many translations that the bible had to go through to get to our language it has lost some of the true meaning that were intended when it was written, we still believe in the Bible and that it is a true text from God. An easy way to point out that the bible can be wrong is when the Pharaoh of Egypt is said to have God hardening his heart when this could never be possible. God can't take away the agency of any human, Pharaoh hardens his own heart against the words of Moses. On the other hand though, the bible does verify the BoM, one way that we use is 2 Corinthians 13:1, paul states that "In the mouth of two or three witnesses shall every word be established" proving that when God is teaching something important he sends another source to confirm it. If i think of any other verses in the bible I will reply these were just some thoughts that I had immediately after reading your comment.
@@machtnichtsseimann I thought of Ezekiel 37 where it talks about the joining of one stick and another stick, stick meaning written tablet or some form of writing. the joining of the tribe of Judah and joseph or ephraim. Another one is in John 10 Jesus talks about being a good shepherd that he will visit his other sheep that are not in this fold and I would put a lot of money on the fact that there would be documenting of Jesus Christ visiting his other sheep.
it's not that the truth is hard to receive but the lies are hard to let go of
Nikao, In this case I couldn't agree with that. I'd say the reason so many members don't listen to Jeff and other apologetics is the fact they don't act alike Christ when talking, Jeff and others alike him are so argumentative that even if members believe him, they also believe he's a hypocrite because he doesn't preach like Christ. Thinking to themselves, "even if The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is false, Jeff's church must be more false because they say they follow Christ, so their doctrine must be to argue and be rude. That can't be the doctrine of Christ, I mustn't follow Jeff". He's got to be more Christ like.
@@danielmoore4024 I know what mean. I believe calvinist misrepresent who God is and the word of God who is Christ. but my comment was in general to everything in life. and yes I believe we are called to be a witness and not obnoxious
Right? Shows exactly what happens when your raised in whatever it is. It moulds the brain and spirit, only Christ can penetrate a man's heart. Thank you Jeff for being a conduit for Christ.
@@danielmoore4024 What do you consider to be "Christ like" then? He is loving the other human while pointing out the errors in their ways (like Christ). Jesus was not "tolerant" in the way the world is.
@@jesussaves6625 Love thy neighbor as thyself. Disrespecting agency, a gift from God is not love, it's plain and clear they've made their choice, respect their rights to choose for themselves as Christ allowed the Pharisees to choose for themselves. Does Jeff want his human rights to choose for himself? Surely. Since he loves himself enough to allow himself his right to choose he should love others to have their rights to choose. He obviously doesn't allow others their right to disagree meaning he does not love his neighbours as himself.
Jeff turned up his patience level to 100 for this one..
I was approached by missionaries and almost was lured into it. But I was so happy I found a loving Alliance Christian Church and a lovely young group that helped me go nowhere but the Bible and Jesus Christ. No one no works can do the work. But through faith and the love of Jesus our God who Died for our sins. I pray for all the lost souls who dose not know the bible or is reading the wrong doctrines. Hope they will one day come to the right path.
I've noticed our Mormon friends are often stuck on "interpretation". Even when the word is clear as day.
Truth_is_the_new_hate, Not all of us are stuck with the excuse interpretation, most members of all religions I see have a script of scriptures in their mind without their own reasoning to believe what they say, they just say what they were told. As an example, those who believe God is a spirit automatically turn to John 4:24 because that's what they were taught, when the missionaries want to talk about faith they automatically turn to Alma 32 because that's what they were taught. I agree with The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints because of many patterns and symbolism I see in the Bible, not because of a list of scriptures in a textbook. I agree Christ, Satan and we are all literal spirit brothers and sisters through Revelation 12, Abraham sacrificing Issac, symbolism between the law of Moses and Jesus Christ, 3 Nephi and the name "The Lamb of God". I've questioned people on biblical scriptures, they share their answers, I then tell them the answer they gave me and they refuse to believe it. Jeff confessed premortal life is biblical then when I asked did he just say that he denied saying it.
Yep, the word is clear as day. They are 3 seperate beings one in purpose. Thanks for admitting it. But do explain how 1 person can talk to himself without a mental illness. Jeff can't even answer it, but tries to talk his way around it.
@@jasonbelt8954 all thinking is talking to ourselves, often silently and sometimes out loud. If you think, then you talk to yourself. It is natural. People just try to hide it when other people are around so as not to appear crazy. Everybody thinks and speaks out loud at times throughout the day their own thoughts.
@@danielmoore4024 so much be clear, are you saying that the literal plain text of scripture isn't as important as symbolism? Or is it that the text does not matter at all? And then what symbolism are you seeing that supercedes the scriptures that say there is only one God?
@@jasonbelt8954 it says there is only one God over, and over, and over, and over again.
I am an ExMormon and so proud to be a Follower of Jesus, a work in progress, and someone who loves the Word of God !!! Thank you Jeff Durbin for further inspiring me to memorize more scripture. Keep fighting the Good Fight !!!
I'm sorry to tell u man.. you just got out from a hole nd fell in an other one
Happy for you
Should leave it all together.
I am a current "Mormon" and proud to be a follower of Jesus as well.
@@swarlesbarkely2449 When Mormons refer to Jesus Christ, they are referring to a Mormon jesus who is the brother of Satan and they are two of many sons and daughters of a Mormon polygamist exalted man god, a Mormon so-called heavenly father, who himself is one of a myriad of Mormon polygamist exalted men god father, grandfathers, great grandfathers, etc., according to Joseph Smith, founder of Mormonism, Brigham Young, 2nd Mormon false prophet. Jesus of the Bible and Christians is not the jesus of the Mormon Church, nor a son of a Mormon exalted man, nor the brother of Satan. As it is written, “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. (John 3:16)”
During this whole video I kept thinking, “brother just submit yourself to The Word of God. Be humble, be teachable.”
Jeff is so patient and kind 🥹 I hope that this man came to know the truth of Christ
Jeff’s patience and respect is admirable. God bless him.
I guess you haven't heard about this Paul guy who has some amazing incites to the book of Abraham supporting Joseph Smith. He is frightening the critics who have actually blocked him from commenting on several sites. He has some brilliant evidence to explain why Joseph was adding characters that didn't match Egyptian. like we see in the facsimile 2 their were likewise Lacunas (holes) in the missing Abraham scroll. The dead sea scrolls had the same problems wherein they had to invent Greek words and character's to fill in certain empty holes in the scrolls. Joseph and the scribes were likely using the book of breathings characters to fill in several such lacunas in an attempt to match the English translation with the Egyptian character's. What he proposes explains everything the critics question and supports the reality that Smith was actually translating from Egyptian. Don't miss this new evidence. kzhead.info/sun/YL58m5qij2N5fJE/bejne.html
Patience is a virtue 👍Jeff is smart.
Scripture is of no private interpretation. It says what it says . If you reject what it says then that’s on you. This Mormon straight up rejects the word of God in favor of his traditions.He keeps saying that he can’t comprehend the scripture because he is telling the truth. He is not saved and without the Holy Spirit it is impossible to comprehend spiritual things.
That Mormon was looking for a stiff uppercut from Jeff. And his heart and head was not open to the truth.
@@swarlesbarkely2449 Hard to listen to someone that doesn't provide an alternative argument. Scripture is scripture and doesn't change. All the Mormon did is studder and stammer.
"The Word of God is the anvil upon which the opinions of men are smashed" - Spurgeon
Satan should be ashamed trying to make himself equal with Jesus.
MORMON DUDE: “But but but but wait wait wait wait I I I was gonna say...ok ok ok buuut... in the totality ah ah ah well so so so that’s your interpre-ligation. WHAT BRO???!!! 😂 LOL
T. Lane so your making fun of a dude their trying to minister to ? Are you a Christian T. Lane ? Love your neighbor as yourself ? Judge not ?
*Jesus* is the Word of God. The bible is scripture that *bears witness to* the Word of God. Two different things.
Daniel Miner NICE
I've never watched a conversation between a Christian and a Mormon before. I'm shocked at how deeply ingrained this deception is. The devil is a liar!! Jeff, God bless you for your work. He's given you great wisdom in the scriptures, and you've inspired to study my Bible with purpose! I will pray for this gentleman!❤
There is no wisdom in the trinity - it is a false teaching and a lie
I feel like the person standing there (with the cap) watching in silence and in awe of this conversation. This is enlightening about the Mormon faith and even my own as a Christian.
Today is the first time I listened to Jeff and I am amazed how he communicated to this Mormon, in love and with total knowledge of who God is. I am an ex Mormon and I am so glad this man cares for the lost.
Do you care that he can not describe the image of God, except to repeat that god is a spirit and lead you to your own imagination of what he is, specially if you like it? Imagine Adam describing to his children God, the same way you are not able to describe him, and then telling them, buti walked with him and he spoke with me and your mom and i could hear him and see him that is why we even hid ourselves from him, but he found us and made us clothes also and tolds us many things. but now he is a spirit and you can not see him. If you are an ex-mormon just remember, the great loss of an ex-mormon is not the blessings but the light of the Holy Ghost teaching you how to come back to Heavenly Father. That is why you are so impressed with simple rationalizations of the bible.
God is not only a spirit ,first God is a person ho have a Holly Spirit .The Holly Spirit is not a person ,is the power of God to be prezent în all dimension !
@@bebyfabry6831 How much of the bible have you read in order for you to declare such stupidity.3 pages, 24 scriptures? read it all and study it on your own. And stop comparing God to your favorite fantasy books.
@@alfredomoreno301 What fantasy books are you talking about? Don't be stupid ,Bible have 1223 pages end i read all the Bible.Who are you to says what is right or rong about my perspective of God ,end what religious tribe are are you reprezent ?
Nobody knows fully who God is. Our minds cannot comprehend fully what he is
The way God used this man to speak truth is amazing. I pray God gives me the same boldness and calmness to speak his word to others as well.
Triston Aguirre it gets better with time age and experience. When I first got saved I came out like a gang buster! Lots of Truth and short on love and gentleness. I even had to take a good break (with approval from the Lord) now it’s more balanced yet I still tend to get over aroused but that has more to do with my own difficulty with sensory regulation. I’m like this even if I’m talking about other subjects non-related to the Word. I think too many years drinking caffeine really messed up my nerves. I feel I have limitations now as far as how much I’m angle to interact before I get very depleted and drained.
Keep seeking God He will give you what u need according His calling for u
Way to go bro Triston. John
Amen
Me too
Man, everytime the Mormon asks Jeff a question, as soon as Jeff starts to answer the Mormon is all "whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa" like he can't accept that Jeff has a biblical answer.
Jeff, this was a master class in how to love a Mormon
Jeff: *quotes scriptures* Mormon: “that’s your interpretation..”
The amount of patience Pastor Jeff has for this man is absolutely remarkable.
What patience? They are having a calm adult conversation. Just because people don't agree on something, doesn't mean they are "fighting" and one has patience while the other doesn't.
@@incognitovortex5796 if someone plainly “rejects” because they don’t agree with something by their subjective opinion, then you have to have patience because they actually don’t want to listen. He clearly just rejected what Bible says.
@@Viiola24 I think you watched a different video. He rejected someone's interpretation of the Bible, not the Bible. It's not the same thing.
The amount of patience pastor Jeff has with this man is absolutely remarkable.😊
Well youre an impacient person full of judgement and anger twards youre fellow man
Pastor Durbin, GOD BLESS & keep you SAFE as well as your ministry.
I was an active, endowed single Mormon for 34 years. It took me that long for the many seeds of truth planted in me to take root. I know know Christ as my Savior. Jesus will always be enough.
I love this Christian preacher. Lord protect him.
Amen!
Amen
you should watch a video exposing this preacher as a heathen.
@@iconacy lol please. This man has not misquoted or misused scripture, youve clearly never listened to him preach the gospel nor do you know the gospel to turn around and say this man is a heathen please give me an example of where and how he has preached or given false deceptive gospels to anyone.
He will be fine lol
Jeff is absolutely unflappable. His knowledge is so deep, so clear and so patient, he’s almost unbelievable....
Mike Walsh lol
Jeff rejected his points because they weren’t scripturally accurate. The Mormon is trying to find ways around listening to the word of God. He’s only taking pieces of the scripture as his truth and rejecting other clearly defined verses. Dancing around the facts.😣
All glory to God! 🙌
Not just almost
@@antbones3618 facts biased off one mans interpretation. one persons facts is another persons hearsay.
Wow! Thank you pastor Jeff for your patience and tenacity in trying to save a lost soul.
Ya... But Who is going to show and lead the protestants to the True Church founded by Christ?
@@optimoprimo132If you follow that line of thought, you are giving the glory due only to The Father and giving it to men. Were it not for “the one true church”s corruption, the protestant reformation wouldn’t have happened.
@@yosiyyahu.bar.stephen 2 wrongs do not make a right. Corruption is gauranteed when dealing with human beings. The Word didn't become flesh because of the amazing track record of human beings or because everyone was going to magically become super saints in the future. He founded a Church despite human weakness and even one of His cloest followers betrayed him and the one who He called rock upon which He was going to build His Church denied Him. Yet Jesus as God created His plan including all the variables of human weakness. The authority of His Church still stands and this was as He willed it. The Church will always retain this authority based on the power and wisdom of God. Nothing good happens when trying to step outside this authority and it only makes things worse. Just because protestants abandoned the bark of Peter does not give them a free pass of responsibility. Remember that the same anscestors who you condemn for corruption are your anscestors along with the catholic church. We all have the same roots and bear the same responsibility of the past. Creating even more division did nothing to fix whatever was set out to be fixed. The end does not justify the means. History shows that division comes from one place and the result is not unity or reform but rather more disunity, divisions, confusion and corruption if the truth. Just honest look at the state of christianity.
It BLOWS my mind & convicts me at the same time how cool & collective Jeff is & the amount of grace & patience he is showing this man.
Jeff was well behaved because he was being videotaped.
Born and raised a Christian but very good to hear this debate to affirm why I believe in the Trinity
I am so impressed with this man. I was born and raised in the Mormon church, but I was finally able to get out and come to true Christianity. If someone had spoken to me like this man when I was all in, I would have done my best to defend Mormonism, but I would have been deeply shaken. I would have taken his points and his questions to Mormon leaders and asked them what this was all about. I would have done a lot of reading, I would have tried to hold my world view together, but in time it would have crumbled. So yes, please do talk and testify to Mormons! We need help to get out! And it may seem like a thankless job, and it may seem like you are getting no where, but I promise, it makes a huge impression. God bless this ministry!
you a christian??? you sure dont act like in fact you are quite far from it the way bash the mormons you Hypocrite!!
Jesus was radical.
Pray let my spirit aid ye.
stan price No one here has bashed Mormonism. I pray you will listen to this and think on it.
@@getdownto311 When challenged with the truth you and people like you call bashing what is challenging what one believes is true. Maybe I'm wrong on your point. Both guys are presenting their understanding of truth. One uses his own truth the other is just quoting passages of scripture. That is one of the most loving things a Christian can do.
Jeff's recall of scripture is convicting. As Christians, we should aspire to this level of scriptural conversation. We have such privilege to have unbridled access God's Word.
I love this video because I'm watching three men having a civil relationship and conversation without any wrath.
I lost my husband a week ago and I want u to know you have really ministered to my heart! Praying for you and love you! God bless Always
Jeffrey I am so sorry about your loss.
Ty so much.Rich loved the Lord and I'm comforted in knowing he is where he wanted to be! God bless you Always, Betty
@@jeffrey63031 I am sorry for your loss Betty. It must be a great comfort knowing he loved the Lord.
jeffrey63031 have you repent?
I’ll be honest here. Jeff’s patience is astounding and he truly shows every aspect of what the Holy Spirit is. God bless him always for that. On the other note, he completely destroyed this man’s mormon theology and backed him in a corner in the most polite and most logical way through ACTUAL scriptural context and clear evidence. Poor guy was dancing too much around everything. #holyspiritwins
Hi Alex. See my post above. Merry Christmas.
Astounding, incredible, outrageous. If you didn't know Jeff was such a loving guy you could almost be fooled into believing that he did the whole thing just to browbeat this brainwashed idiot into submission and show off his incredible intellect and Ninja-Like mental reflexes to the whole of the KZhead community.
he's a fraud.
The young man in the hat listening to both is definitely going to follow Christianity ✝️🙏 Praise be to God 🙏
I worked my whole awesome career with the LDS followers, I love them so much and want them to come to the saving knowledge of my Jesus. I recently had the wonderful opportunity to lead an LDS follower to Jesus. She said to me that I am such a great teacher, and I said in response to God all the glory. Thank Jeff for your ministry .
I pray for such patience that Jeff has here, because this Mormon sounds exactly like my own dad and it’s painfully heartbreaking and downright frustrating.
Patience maybe a virtue, though not always bound to good works - ie, the devil is patient, though clearly not inclined to good works With that said, I'd urge that you consider the truth of GOD with vigilance - Jesus did not worship a triune GOD, and our salvation was never rooted in such things in the gospel...
@@Charles.Wright First you insult me, then proceed to agree with everything that I have said - Jesus never did this
I was in this customers house last week and asked him about a puzzle on a table that was temple square in utah. He asked if I knew anything about the temple and I said "it looks like a mormon temple from utah" and he asked if I followed that church, my response was "no Im christian" and his response was "we're christian too" not knowing any of the differences I didnt press the issue. He was probably in his 70s
@@OCDlosp Many people do not know what being a Christian actually means according to the Bible - though the worst thing a Christian could ever do, is argue with someone else on whether they are Christian or not...
Jessaka Powers, If you want to make becoming more alike the Saviour, improve Christ's attributes, increase your awareness. Once you provide enough space to observe your mind it becomes easier to control our thoughts and feelings, we become better at recognising where our thoughts will lead us.
We love mormons , this is why we speak to you!!! Know that we truly care!!!
If you where to tell Jeff any of your belief even if you're a Christian he would tell you what he understands from all his studying and that's what he stands for, also thats why there is many religions. Faith is the very foundation, interpretations are many and God there is only one.
I am once a mormon and they are the most beautiful people but they are all decieved by the leaders..
This was a blessing to watch. What a nice, confused young man. I pray the seed was planted! God bless what you do
He is not confused. He just disagrees. That is not the same thing. You, unfortunately, have been taught twisted versions of our faith. We believe and read the Bible. We just interpret it differently. We believe that the creeds are not of God.
It blows my mind the limitless patience of Jeff Durban!
The devil is patient
This Paster really knows the BIBLE i love learning from him.
He's a fraud - most of his arguments have been proven to be bunk, yet he continues to mislead others because he has no regard for the truth of God
Smalltimer no he has Jesus
@@smalltimer4370 can you please provide sources for your stance here?
Does this really go on for an hour plus? Are they really arguing over where Jesus was born? In some cases, in these type of videos you could easily have a Presbyterian VS a Lutheran VS a Baptist. Now, I'm not advocating Mormonism here but this idea of everyone having the EXACT same interpretation of minor points, dates of birth, pre-trib, post-trib etc. is not only not realistic, its dissention, its causing fractions etc Most importantly, these knowledge battles are unlikely to win ANY converts. It becomes nothing more than a debate with the power of human effort alone. This should concern us all
Listening to these two reminds me of the trump, biden debate!
I like that mormon, my heart aches for him. He is such a respectful nice man. I pray he learns the truth about Jesus.
It's good to pray for people - though it's vital that we pray for the right things in such cases. ie, the trinity is not truth of God, and should therefore never be prayed for. if anything we should pray for the truth of God - no some doctrine invented by a bunch of corrupt men
@@smalltimer4370 the Triune nature of God is not a creation of man, but a revelation from God in the Bible. You need to read up on scripture and not let your human perception get in the way. There's no way to have a decent discussion on this here but why don't you check out more videos from this pastor or other resources on the web to find out the truth because the denial of God's nature is a serious offense
@@stephenfloyd3522 "revelation of God in the Bible" - so where in the Bible does it say that the Trinity is doctrine? Did you know there were no trinitarian early Christians before the Trinity was created? The contentious Council of Nicaea was made up of men, not apostles or prophets of old. Saint Nicholas even punched the main leader of the majority of Christians that opposed the Trinity. This was done over 300 years after Christ died and was put together by the pagan Constantine for political purposes. Before the Trinity, pagans had a god(s) that were triune.
@@aluf2567 Just like Jeff was saying, Colossians 1:15-17, were Christ created all things. Paul believed in the trinity and he wrote around AD 62.
Which truth?
The mormon in the green jacket almost saw through the veil and he almost saw truth.
I'm just discovering your ministry, and wow, awesome. I have been mass consuming ad much as I can. Your conversations are edifying my soul. So thank you.
Jesus is the way the truth and the life.
Ben Dover So is taking a big dump !! Yes it’s the truth and life
That is exactly what the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints teaches. All are being invited to come unto Christ and receive the fullness his gospel.
Charles Brown actually u guys teach good works get u salvation
@I don’t know A username Actually we don't. You guys misconstrue the doctrines that we teach. Nothing is done without the grace of Jesus Christ and his sacrifice. Nothing is possible without his grace. Jeff Durbin, and the likes teach that God created us out of nothing (exnihilo) because he was bored and needed to be worshipped and that we are simply inferior creatures somewhat like robots, and pawns with an artificially infused intelligence that some how constitutes free will. We teach that God created the world because he loved us as his literal children before we came to earth and that through worshipping and obeying God we receive blessings including eternal salvation. The orthodox folks such as Jeff Durbin and like you must be, teach that more people seem to be headed to hell than to heaven and yet you don't know what either one is really is. You just teach that hell is as bad as it can get and heaven is as good as it can get. You beleive heaven is a static place with no growth and God's glory is limited. We believe it is a dynamic place with a continued increase that glorifies God forever. We teach that God desires to save all of his children and does this through the grace of Jesus Christ. Only the sons of perdition who will full knowledge rejected Jesus will go to a literal "hell". You apparently think the saving power of Jesus is not sufficient to save the majority of the Father's children.
@@charlesbrown1245 Not so. LDS places Joe Smith ahead of Jesus. The name is there only to prostitute.
Man this would have exhausted me. Jeff is explaining the foundation of our faith against fluid, non-biblical counter statements that are reinforced in dogmatic, non-searching, closed ears. Jeff is well prepared and displays great patience and persistence. This is the proof of ones ministry, proof by example and not of college credentials.
Adam.......I admire Jeff patience & sound biblical knowledge
Adam, I’m exhausted watching him. It’s amazing how he has so much patience.
@@toddlake7489 , truly a gift from God.
I guess you see what you want to see. I could see that he clear was not really listening, his eyes half closed, a licking of his lips, blinking, and an air of feigned patience while he waits until the other less prepared person finishes, but then delivers his very prepared and oft repeated talking points. I don't see this as open minded, but clearly a closed minded, closed ears approach to "discussion" when it is not a discussion at all. The way that he answered against John 17:21 was amazing, almost flippant, where he offered his opinion that in the case of John 17:21 Jesus was talking about unity, but in the case of the "Trinity" which Jesus never once spoke about (because it is a man made doctrine), in that case we must believe it means literally one being. Well, its a man made doctrine, the word "Trinity" does not appear in all of the Bible. think about that.
bookofmormonanswers I think he was listening very well. The “less prepared” man was missing what Jeff was saying. And that’s why it must of been so exhausting for Jeff, cause the mormon wasn’t hearing what Jeff was saying. Jeff knows what mornons believe because his testimony is that he used to be one, until he read all scripture. Anyways I’m not going to try and argue with you on it. Just that Jeff was willing to take him out for lunch or supper to talk about it and have a proper dialogue. Where the “less prepared man” can come with all his notes, and Jeff can come with the Holy Bible. 😀
God bless you Pastor for sharing God's Blessings to the lost soul. Will pray for your ministry.
Pastor Jeff, I’ve watched many of your videos and really love how you allow God to use you. The impact you’re making is wonderful. There are now a few Apologists I watch, you may have been the first. Since then I’ve had a growing desire to seek out apologists and because of that I’ve learned so much more about not just my faith, the Christian faith, but also about LDS & Islam. I would love to focus my studies to aim towards becoming an apologist. I’ve got a dear friend who I met at work who’s faith is considered Black Hebrew Israelite. Now he just claims to be an Israelite, but nothing about his faith has changed. For 2 years I’ve been trying to enlighten him of the truth with love. I pray one day his eyes are opened. Anyways, thank you so much. This ministry has definitely been a blessing
I am 69 yrs. old, I have been walking in the Spirit serving the Lord since 1970, this is the most beautiful demonstration of Holy Spirit love and patience that I have ever witnessed. I have spent my entire life speaking to others about the love of God. Jeff, my brother, you are showing it to the world. God bless and keep you and continue to use you. Brother Lee
Totally agree with you. As a Christian "bible bashers" have their place but I don't relate that. This is how Christians should treat everyone.
@@BradK02 Thanks, my brother.
Diversion away from answering LDS questions with quotes from bible.😮
listen, listen, linda, linda, listen linda, linda listen
So that's what I was thinking!! Hahaha
Lol
hahahaaha......except....Linda didnt want to listen this time lol.....good one man!! :-)
He sounds jus like him lol
Lol that’s all I kept thinking about lol
I feel for this young man. He is having his life's beliefs completely destroyed. His whole family and all his friends are probably Mormons as well. I know this is tough because I was raised as a Jehovah's Witness.
You got your beliefs completely destroyed as a JW? Likewise, are you now a trinitarian? Just curious btw
@@smalltimer4370 I'm still working on what I believe. The Bible is so complex , and it's tougher when I don't speak Greek and Hebrew. Bible variations can alter context completely by interpretation. Then factor in my sceptic mind... I do believe in a creator for certain. How about yourself ?
@@Blindsyde5762 I believe in the one true GOD YHWH [יְהוָ֞ה], and the resurrection of Jesus Christ in accordance with scripture. And while I would also admit that the struggle with the parent Hebrew and Greek texts is indeed real, I should be said that we are far better disposed than ever in deciphering the written truth from scripture, thanks to the tools and advancements of modern day technology, such as; Biblehub, ChatGPT, the Concordances and advent of none-denominational Bible translations such as the WEB for example. That said, and while it is true that the Bible is a vast and complex work, there remains one outstanding aspect, in-where we get to put GOD to the test, by taking Him up on His word for enlightenment. To which I'd add, is a win-win, in-that this not only demonstrates that the GOD of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is indeed genuine and true, but moreso, by providing those putting faith in His instructions with the evidence they need to proceed with the assurance that they are indeed proceeding in accordance with GOD's will. PS. therefore and should you be interested, I would love to read the Bible with you - no gimmicks, no hidden agenda's, just two people reading GOD's word in search of the truth
@@Blindsyde5762what if i said take a leap of faith, one night just pray to God. Jesus. Holy Spirit. You wana know him right? Really open your heart, tell me you don’t receive the Lord at that moment! Reply whenever you can. So many faithful Christians, have unlocked the key too life through Christ, and the key too treasure, wisdom, and salvation. He’s knocking at the door, just open it, it won’t kill you, it will FULFILL YOU. MAKE YOU WHOLE Matthew 24:35 Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will not pass away.
@@RichMizenko I have prayed for that many times...
Jeff you do NOT need to pray for patience. That one you can confidently cross off you pray list. Anyone wanting to know what patience looks like, I’m sending them this video! Well done my friend. Good work!
😂 Durbin: “You need to hang out a lot in John 1... Like A LOT.” 😂 Diesel Durbin does it again 💯
Is there a timestamp for that?
I did that with a jw's. We talked about John 1:1c. And it didn't take a lot. We just got to learn how to presented it to them. They believe the word *[A]* should be in john 1:1c. As: "and the Word was [A] God." We just have to be knowledgeable enough to show that it cannot be there.
@@chatnoir8524 it's at 32:20
It's so long... but I COULD NOT STOP WATCHING. Bless you brother
Rocky Maher like you, I could not stop watching. I’m a Christian and learn something every time I watch him. I keep my Bible & notebook beside me.
That's what she said.
ImSoPeeved Dude. Really?
She absolutely fucking did, dude. 🍆👌🏽💦
@@ImSoPeeved bruh
14 minutes into this and it’s troubling.. Pastor Jeff has some incredible patience.. why are Mormons so adamant about claiming they’re the same Christian as “us” when clearly we are claiming we believe differently? Are they taught in school to work so hard to make that claim?
Yes. BEcause of we agree to share the same Christ, it makes converting Christians to Mormanism easier once they share their new revelation.
I was born and raised in the heart of mormonism. I've talk to missionaries and Mormons in general more times than I can count. This is what they do. Notice how close the guy gets. Putting his hands so close he almost touching him. When they can't defend their argument, they try to bully it into you. Jeff has far more patience than I could ever hope for.
Let us pray fervently that the Lord would save this young man, if it is His will.
Steven, please provide evidence for you claims.
Steven Eri Evidence
Joel well said. Amen.
Thanks for the question Jesse, The Mormon needs to be saved. I, as well as all other Christians, use the word of God to discern who is saved or not. If you are not saved, then you need to be saved. Salvation comes by Grace through faith in Christ alone, we know this thanks to the bible, and all the glory goes to God, because He is the one doing the saving. Repent and believe in God. Don't let your sins keep a grip on your life. Confess Jesus as Lord and fight the good fight.
"Saved", elaborate please. I've always been fascinated about what we're meant to be being saved from, what with an omnipotent god n'all. Omnipotent being the operative word. What kind of being creates a universe with everything needed to support life, and everything in it. He knows everyones thoughts, he knows everything, he is all powerful, right?. So why do you want to save us from him, because the god you worship, according to your worldview caused everything. Why not tell him go fuck himself for being a hypocrite, child murdering, bigoted fuck face who wouldn't even know how to spell morality, let alone create it. Wake up people, Norway and Japan have no religion and they're the best countries in the world, most of Europe were I live have abandoned religion too, like we did the tooth fairy and Santa, same principles apply. I know it's lucrative for some to stay religious, but for the people who believe just because that seems the right thing to do, please rethink it through.
I love you guys. Keep preaching the truth, and winning souls. I look forward to meeting you guys one day.
Wow!! This is the first time I learn about this ministry. We are Christian and know someone who goes to The mormon church. Thanks now I know. 🙏🙏
This is the Navy Seal of all Preachers...May God bless and protect him for spreading the CORRECT word! What incredible knowledge of the bible and ability to rip the counter arguments apart. God bless you Jeff Durbin!
The trinity is not of the Bible however - ie, Jesus did not worship or teach of a triune god.
@@SmalltimR you obviously haven’t read scripture where it clearly says “he fell to there knees and started worshiping him” I’m sorry but I feel like a lot of people aren’t chasing truth they’re just focus on winning the argument or being others away from the truth
@@ramelbrooks2316 How do people go from worshiping Jesus to an imaginary god that is nowhere taught, defined, worshiped or preached anywhere in Bible history? Those who worship a god other than the GOD of Jesus Christ do so as Apostates of Christ. The trinity is a destructive heresy invented 350 years after Jesus' death and resurrection. It is a lie and a product of the devil, intended to deceive would-be Christians into becoming liars by spreading false teachings. Satan has the entire world under his influence. He doesn't care about you or anyone else.
I am going to go read my bible :-) :-)
chrisj1011 🤣 I know right
chrisj1011 amen
A Font Please stop lying to yourself
I like the chance for a good opposition, it gives a chance to grow and become stronger. This is a good video.
I'm going to to go read my Harry Potter book.:-). It makes more sense...
A double minded man is unstable in all his ways. Praying for this guy, open his heart and eyes Lord.
Great discussion and the control you both show when loving on the Mormons you speak with. Love the knowledge and compassion when sharing Gods Truth.
Jesus i pray that you bring the truth into all the lost hearts and souls
Amen
Amen!
Keep up the good work guys. I rejected Joseph Smith and turned to Jesus Christ. We also need to help those snared in Islam.
Don't forget about those snared in JW.
Amen
keep up the good work??? all i see here is this soy boy hipster bashing on the mormon faith what a dick!
@@angelawilson6751 Calvinists are the most prideful and arrogant people you'll ever meet.
Your phrasing of “I rejected Joseph Smith and turned to Jesus Christ” is rather insulting. As a member of the the church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints, we do not “believe” in Joseph Smith. We do not praise him and seek to him for guidance for forgiveness, and we do no worship him. We worship Jesus Christ, the Son of God who died on the cross and was resurrected so that we could all live again.
👏 ❤ Outstanding, I pray 🙏 for the truth to save him, good work for thy Lord is smiling........Amen
New subscriber to this channel. Thank you for spreading the truth. This has been helping me so much. God bless you!
I'm an ex JW so I listen to this spiritual debate objectively as I had to study from scratch after being decieved and I can only agree with Jeff
Truth Be Known praise the lord your eyes and heart opened
@@jodylee7596 hey, i need help reaching a Jehovah's witness. They seem to be set in their ways...Any tips? Thank you
@@anitahscorner Jesus is Jehovah is Salvation... that is what Jesus name means... hence He is the God whose name is Jehovah is Salvation. Jehovah does not share His name with other gods. Remember YHWH means I Shall Prove to Be Whom I Shall Prove to Be (I Am who I Am). Jesus Proves to Be Salvation. I hope that helps.
You are still deceived. Just traded one cult for another.
@@quemaspana what cult is that?
I admire the work of the Holy Spirit within you, Jeff.
Its amazing and his patience with people is wao
Amen
God has really Blessed Jeff with the ability of Apologetics. Pray for Robert
I feel sorry for this person. To even think JESUS IS the brother of the fallen one....wow.....i've heard it all.
“You need to repent for saying that” But is it true?” I don’t know, it could be true” 🤣
Right!?!
Truth hurts…
He says "listen " lot for someone who refuses to listen.
How many times does Jesus say I speak the truth, menoftruth.org/archives/130 I'm gonna review all the scriptures listed on website, next week, I could think of one or two, but there may be more, something to check out, even Jesus had to say it as well, ...
It was so irritating
@@elephantshrew6304 yes it becomes irritating. When people have the truth, it's hard to share with others who are already indoctrinated. As yourself, would you be monologuing or dialogueing with someone who has the truth and would you debate and listen?
Mega Froggy I’ve been in a Christian cult and am now in a new church that is not a part of the NAR movement. I left the deeply invested old church because I was seeing revealing information online about the movement my old church was following. I think some people are given over to their delusions as the the Bible says “And since they did not see fit to acknowledge God, God gave them up to a debased mind to do what ought not be done.” Romans 1:28 ESV We see that if people do not listen to God’s correction, he may give them up to their desires. Now, if you seek God you will find him! It’s promised in Jeremiah 29:13 “You will seek me and find me, when you seek me with all your heart.” ESV You must be willing to accept the truth of God if you diligently seek him with a heart ready for him. This is why it is irritating to say you know the truth but will not investigate it especially concerning God and the scriptures you say you know but will not acknowledge the wisdom of. “Now these Jews were more noble than those in Thessalonica; they received the word with all eagerness, examining the Scriptures daily to see if these things were so. Many of them therefore believed, with not a few Greek women of high standing as well as men. Acts 17:11 ESV It is commendable to research scripture to verify its truthfulness and is seen as a noble work where belief is made possible.
@@elephantshrew6304 I agree, as a once atheist, I see how hard it is to prove to other atheist that God is real, even with the knowledge that brought me in. These people are in search for truth, but they are indoctrinated, as a Christian talking to another Christian about certain salvation scriptures, one of the two might be blinded. Anyways, I agree.
glory be to God the Father,God the Son and God the Spirit for this work being done of fighting against false beliefs, may we all genuine christians read the scriptures and ask wisdom from above in order to preach the truth!!
By our love they will know that we are Christians. Pastor PastorJeff is certainly exemplifying that. Glory to God.🙏🏽✝️
I used to be outraged at Christians knocking my Catholic faith. But I was nominal and born into it. Then I started to practice Catholicism and it contradicted with my bible readings. This was 20 years ago, but alot of people don't know the faith they were born in.now I'm born again
Delores M praise God! I was raised RC though not strictly. But over the past two years God showed me truth! The Catholic Church is a cult and one of many. But I have SUCH a hard time reaching any of my catholic friends/family.
Delores M worshiping under the catholic faith is contributing to blasphemy period. Im glad you have separated from it. The pope by nature is a blasphemous individual who claims he can forgive sins and represents both the 10 horned beast that daniel wrote in the bible and that john described in revelations
@The Dúnedain In other videos he has stated that he likes the ESV. I've also heard Durbin talk positively about the NASB and the even the KJV.
Delores! Christ Himself founded the Catholic faith. Attack the Church is very unChristian. Please, do not spread falsehoods. I am Episcopalian. I guess I am total rubbish to you.
@@bobholmes65 Christ did not found a church in Rome to be led by a pope. He founded a church that was to base it's doctrines upon the scriptures, not some man made tradition system of acorns developing into oak tree systems. I have no problem saying that the church is catholic (meaning according to the whole), but it's not Roman Catholic.
I LOVE LOVE LOVE THE MATURE CONVERSATION THAT THEY HAD, SO MUCH RESPECT FOR ONE ANOTHER.MAY GOD RAISE SUCH LEADERS IN THE BODY OF CHRIST, MEN AND WOMEN WHO KNOWS THE SCRIPTURES AND SPEAKS WITH BOLDNESS AND MOST IMPORTANTLY WITH LOVE.
Kaybee Chioma where was the respect on Jeff’s part.... he is adamantly refusing to hear them.... He already has an answer for them...
Clifton Taylor He has an answer based on Scripture. Truth is truth.
This LDS dude is like a bar of soap in the shower. As soon as you think you got a grip on it, its slip out of your hand somehow and it keeps running from ya 😂😂
As a Christian I learned I have less patience than I should have. I also felt like slapping that guy after his 73rd circular argument. I guess I still have a long way to go. I wish I had this much knowledge on God's Word.
bruh for real, specially towards the end.
Can one person be such a fool. I am non religious whatsoever, but today I am a born again Christian through pastor Durbin
Supposed to b born again thru Jesus n the holy spirit. May wanna look into whether or not ur placing too much emphasis on an institution
JaB Wolf: All he is saying is that because of Jeff, his eyes are opened. Lets Celebrate :-) All it takes is a spark of Truth
You came to Christ through this video? That’s amazing!!! Amen brother welcome!!!
@@SamaritanElad let's all calm down here.. only God knows the intention of his heart with the statement he made. I believe he was trying to correct her and lead her closer to truth. Either way let's celebrate our new sister in Christ
I love the work you are doing! I am a born again believer living in Utah. I came out of mormamism @ 5 years ago, Praise God! By the Grace of God. I have tried having these conversations with my family who are still under the deception of the Mormon Church. Watching this video has given my insight and scripture references I can use when taking to them. Thank you for all your hard work and dedication. God Bless your work, and I will pray for guys :)
Glory to God!
tiffani smith good luck: I never got anywhere arguing with MORMONS!
tiffani smith, I am sad for you. First I will correct your terminology of the Lords Church. It is the church of Jesus Christ of latter-day Saints. Mormon is not the head of the church nor the foundation of the church, he was a prophet & the one who took a few of the records and compiled them, thus the Book of Mormon, the author however is Jesus Christ Himself, he is the one that revealed that which was to be written. There is no difference in how the Bible was compiled by prophets & apostles, who received revelations as to how the Book of Mormon was compiled from the prophets & apostles who received revelations. These and all the books of scripture go hand in hand. You In my experience when we are not being strictly obedient, not taking the opportunity to study the Word, it leaves a gap in the gate that allows just enough room for Satan or one of his angels to creep in and tempt us, lie to us. Then we stop praying and we stop taking advantage of the Atonement, and before we know it we are not making the best of decisions, we start feeling inadequate, we stop praying and then Satan has a firm grasp. Don’t let him win, you must turn to the Light if the World. There is a quote there, supposedly from Christ that says: “I never said it would be easy, I only said it would be worth it.” The church of Jesus Christ is the one and only true church on the face of the earth it holds the name of Jesus Christ unlike any other church it has prophets and apostles as spoken of in the New Testament and Old Testament we live by the commandments we believe in Jesus Christ the one and only Jesus Christ who in the pre-existence we knew as our brother Jehovah the one Jesus Christ to took upon Himself our sins, our sorrows, suffering by way of the Atonement. I encourage you to look at at yourself as a daughter of God and ask if He is pleased with your decisions, I would also encourage you to dust off your Book of Mormon and kneel with real intent asking God if that record which was especially written for the last day if it is true, having faith and believing God will hear and answer your prayer. Should you, like millions of others find that the Holy Ghost bears witness to you, then step up to the plate and soak all that you can in. God is waiting for you to make that move, to ask for His forgiveness (something I have to do daily). He will not force you to believe His gospel, but will also have to implement the consequences of our choices and accountability. You are a princess of a King, even our Father in Heaven, He awaits for each of His children to have humbled hearts and for those lost ones He wants them come back. Ultimately with the gift of free agency It is our decision as to what we want to receive for or eternal future, we are our own Destiny. Trials and tribulations will happen, that is what makes us strong. I have found the Commandments are like a roadmap they are our direction back to our heavenly home, they help us be a better person if we are keeping them, where if we don’t keep the Commandments then we have no promise. I have family members who left the church because they wanted to drink, smoke, not feel guilty for not keeping the Sabbath day Holy etc. The Church of Jesus Christ... was not for them, so they were baptized in the Catholic Church, the felt far less guilty. Sadly for them they will reap what they sewed and will only achieve the glory they could live in on earth.
tiffani smith tiff- don't listen to janu- she is angry because people misquote LM LDS- well. SHE is doing the same with Catholics. I am Cat H I, do not drinkor smoke & I honor the Sabbath because I try not to shop on Sun or go out to eat on the Lord"s Day- Just because her family. had fake CATH- does not mean this one is- TTY his woman needs to do her homework!
Can you still go to Utah if you quit Mormonism?
This young man Mormon he wants to be so right in his beliefs. Durban is giving him the word of God.
struggling to hear past the static, I just love these debates on the street, Jeff is blessed and absolutely doing God's work. Thank you
Ah, sorry to burst your bubble, but GOD's work does not come in the form of lies and false teachings...
Your ability to recall and quote scripture is amazing, and your respectful approach is impressive also Jeff
I left Mormonism about 12 - 14 years ago, after several things happened which I just felt like God would never stand for. One thing that bothered me before I left (and still bothers me), is how the Bible is only considered to be the divine word of God if and unless it validates Joseph Smith's claims. If the Bible doesn't validate Joseph's claims, then suddenly the Bible has been "translated incorrectly." If I were to bake a cake with vinegar instead of sugar, would the bad taste be the result of the recipe being written incorrectly, or is the bad taste the result of my mistake? The bad-tasting cake/ "incorrect recipe" scenario can be applied to Mormon doctrine and Joseph Smith's teachings. If Joseph's words are proven to be untrue (which they have been on more than one occasion), then is that the fault of the Bible, a book written roughly 1,000 years before Joseph was even born, or is that the fault of the person making false claims? Believe in the Bible! †
Amen!
@@elayneblystone7889, Thank you! :)
Well said, can’t argue with that 🙌🙌
@@navascovideo495 , Thank you very much! 😊
Amen!
They both deserve the same respect. No one is better than the other.
Beautiful conversation and yes I will pray for him and you as well.