He had 60 out of meet drug tests that year and passed them. And he tried the heaviest weight ever here in OLWL history with a realistic chance of getting it. (till now, Nov. 2011), 266,5 (not 266). Only man in history to have a realistic shot at that with all the drug tests to show as well.
@wolfgangleful12 жыл бұрын
You're kidding yourself if you think he wasn't on gear. People have all sorts of tricks to pass, and in the 80s there were far more options. I'm not saying it's bad either, all of his opponents would have been exactly the same, let's just not lie to ourselves here.
@fathertedczynski24 күн бұрын
@@fathertedczynski Cheating is cheating, regardless of how many of his opponents were cheating. It's not commendable to steal, lie, cheat, or kill, just because others do it. But then again, it's not proven that Nerlinger cheated. Everyone is innocent until proven guilty.
@pacome_hegesippe16 күн бұрын
Right and drug tests always catch cheaters.
@SuperOlds8811 күн бұрын
Amazing
@IrishMarc113 жыл бұрын
great gutsy effort .
@winston6788 жыл бұрын
incredible
@olyseth6 жыл бұрын
@tommypickles7 Ah I believe he's referring to Brian Shaw (who also played basketball), not Shaq. The first "Shaq" was a typo.
@Maddolis12 жыл бұрын
How long before we see a 600 pound C&J?? Or will we??
@okzoia13 жыл бұрын
He was really close to making it. German school of weightlifting is really specialized in jerk, they are all awesome jerkers ( no pun intended )
@Miiiiiiighty23 күн бұрын
such strong legs, HOW THE HELL DID HE RECOVER THAT!
@mikeyburger115 жыл бұрын
i didnt realize this was in slomo until like 5 secs after the clean. i was like wtf
@MTVdontplaymusic5013 жыл бұрын
I saw another comment about this .the lifters who bailed should be reprimanded..I saw most just walk off the platform. Ive spotted everything from special Olympics to the WPO Novice to elite.. These spotters did good..yet a little coaching and they can really improve..need to use a triangle when there are three spotters .when useing 5..side spotters need to be on each side of the weight to catch it going back or forward.. when I'm the back spotter..I make sure the lifter isn't coming out.. unless they dive forward..
@CraigSarvis-yq6cv13 сағат бұрын
@okzoia
@crackyflipside13 жыл бұрын
@Myself0101 I dont know what is strong for you, but one guy from soviet weightlifting team saw Pisarenko front squating 300kg x 3 easy. I am always amazed when i see Pisarenko's speed of recovery from bottom.
@Berserkeer12 жыл бұрын
It was Taranenko who front squatted 300 x 3. Pisarenko was said to frequently miss the front squat part of the clean after racking the weight in the bottom because his max front squat was like 5 kg over his best clean... He was a pulling machine though, and had the best SHW ratio ever in the C&J. A shame he couldn't lift 3 or 4 more years...
@Miiiiiiighty2 жыл бұрын
Who holds the record
@zaskarelite11 жыл бұрын
@themetalgod21 it's like wilt chamberlain's 50 point per game avg it will never be broken unless the game changes.The same applies to Chamberlain 27 rebounds per game ave.It also applies to Rogers Hornsby's .424 batting average in a season.Nolan Ryan's 5700 k's are safe too.Randy Johnson struck out 300 batters like 6 times and has i believe the highest k''s per starter and pitched till 46 and still couldn't come close to Ryan's record.Some records will never be broken!!!!
@themetalgod2113 жыл бұрын
I think if Rezazedeh had someone to push him, he might have had a chance. I always had a feeling he didn't even give a crap cause he could just go out and win it on the C+J whenever he needed, and he seemed to only care about breaking the "official" records, not the longstanding "unofficial" WRs. I think the scenario necessary is for 2 youngish rivals to come along and push each other. Call me crazy, but what if Salimi gets a youngish rival to come along and start challenging him? (Mendes??)
@CraigKilgo13 жыл бұрын
@themetalgod21 I believe the 600 pound c&j will come along. Some old records stood for years and years, then came to be broken regularly. If I remember correctly, the heavyweight class of today still has catching up to do to beat Yury Zakharevich's lifts. Yet, who could have predicted him? Rezazadeh came close to Krastev's and Taranenko's lifts. There have been people in the past whose strength is still unbeaten. Angus McGaskill comes to mind, as well as Paul Anderson. Why not again?
@dynomax10113 жыл бұрын
Name's Lasha :-) 500 snatch and 600 clean and jerk will be done if he doesn't injure himself
@Miiiiiiighty2 жыл бұрын
Amazing strength, but sadly it was a no lift when he adjusted it on his shoulders at the bottom anyway :(
@mcclurgoman13 жыл бұрын
Schade!!!
@franzscherer38975 жыл бұрын
@lizardlava100 C&j isn't powerlifting :P
@Possimpablee11 жыл бұрын
I hope none of you are comparing today's bars compared to back then's bars and weights. Way different guys including the training for each lifter.
@hydro.pl.279 жыл бұрын
If Shaq chose to be a powerlifter, he would easily smash C&J record. dude played basketball at 405 lbs some years. Thats running and mostly cardio and hes still that big. Its easy to say he would have competed at 450-460 lbs as a powerlifter. I have seen him once in person he is simply massive. All we need is another Shaw to come along!! ha
@lizardlava10013 жыл бұрын
close..........
@therockana12 жыл бұрын
Insanity. This is insanity.
@HGAitssimple22 күн бұрын
@bourquechris He does have down syndrome. Down syndrome as in, I have two hundred and sixty six kilograms on my shoulders and it's pulling my face down. But I see it too.
@Maddolis12 жыл бұрын
In history out training gym.. lonely Kurlovitch Nerlinger and Taranenko ordoned 266 ... lonely Taranenko do it... if you added the 272 of Chemerkin ( locked but no stand up he fall direct in rear) and 267 Taranenko (no jerk)........this video is one of Top 5 of higher CJ attempts..........1) Taraneko 266 "sonboy chips " 1988 2) Kurlovitch 266 "press out"" . (Robbed for lot of....) 3) Nerlinger 266 THIS VIDEO 4). 267 Taranenko Clean.. 5) Chemerkine 272 Crazy attempt
@alanaliyev456GT2 жыл бұрын
People give alexeev too much credit. He was ahead of his time, but his best clean and jerk was 256kg, which would have been red lighted nowadays
@ICanSeeItInYourEyes811 жыл бұрын
@lizardlava100 shaq's a stunning athlete, with mindboggling coordination (see breakdance skills :) ), but his proportions aren't right for weightlifting. The best lifters are compact. It's unfair to expect him to get under the bar at his height, even moreso for a 260 kg bar
@tommypickles712 жыл бұрын
The current world record for a clean and jerk is 580 pounds (263.0kg).
@SuperBrucelee9611 жыл бұрын
@bourquechris roids and such, performance enhancing drugs. Obviously people can't compete using the stuff that they used to as easily w/o getting caught, but if powerful new drugs, "restoratives", come into play faster than the tests evolve, lifters will make use of that
@tommypickles712 жыл бұрын
@Swiley117 Not on Earth he couldn't.
@ohurley1113 жыл бұрын
Imagine lifting that off the floor.
@jasonflett358725 күн бұрын
More a loosing of concentration...(he loose self trust il final phase of lock arms and recepting bar) very sad. Propulsion is good
@alanaliyev456GT5 жыл бұрын
На тренировках он толкал поболее- это видно
@user-ii2vx3no7g10 сағат бұрын
@themetalgod21 chemical restoratives are evolving and the WADA has yet to catch up to decades old chemicals. The man that breaks 600 will come from nowhere a year or two before an olympics hitting 95% of the world record then break it at Olympics. Future world record holders will not have a track record of competing internationally because of doping tests.
@crackyflipside13 жыл бұрын
Chemerkin came close to cleaning 599.5 at the Sydney Olympics...
@sirlew195111 жыл бұрын
Pisarenko and Alexeev supposedly did in training. And Pis supposedly jerked it too. Chermerkin was a beast though, too bad he lacked so much in the shoulder mobility departement...
@Miiiiiiighty2 жыл бұрын
Chemerkin attempted 600.76 lbs
@ozwunder6929 күн бұрын
Толстый слишком и тяжелый
@user-ii2vx3no7g10 сағат бұрын
True!!!!!!!!
@themetalgod2110 жыл бұрын
Schade Manfred hat nicht viel gefehlt...
@axelschupp57663 жыл бұрын
The problem is the strict drug testing regulations forcing the weightlifters to duck the testers and not take as many drugs. Even the drugs they do get now are shit quality to the ones the ussr were providing their athletes. In the last olympics the gold was won with only a 247 c&j. If anything the guys are getting weaker.
@bascorasco10 жыл бұрын
However when they have a player that is large like shaq the other black players can't stop him because he was bigger and stronger them.He didn't have any skills!!!! Yet, when Yao ming camer to the nba and was 7'6 and bigger then shaq, oneal had problems with him.
@themetalgod2111 жыл бұрын
@lizardlava100 Shaq at 400 pounds i doubt it.Black people are not that strong in particular.Shaq wasn't nearly as massive as Andre the giant.
@themetalgod2112 жыл бұрын
@bourquechris Eh, genetics are a bit overrated; i mean, there are probably hundreds of nfl guys who could competent, if not superior genetics. The gene pool is already there, and has been for a while, "improvements" in genes would probably be negligible. What would make a huge difference is training, obviously, but those limits are basically being met as well. That leaves ped's; they're the factor in the old records still standing, and could be the future as well
@tommypickles712 жыл бұрын
@crackyflipside How about never????i have good reasons to support this.Alexeev took the jerk record from under 500 to 568 in 7 years. That was an improvement of over 70 pounds from the years 1970 to 1977.Since then in the past 33 years the record has gone up less then 20 pounds with other great lifters barely nudging the record along.If a lifter was of Alexeev's caliber and accomplished what he did, he would have took the the 568to around 640 but no one has come along in the world.
@themetalgod2113 жыл бұрын
@crackyflipside What you said is pure bullshit.Do you actually think the lifitng community is not going to notice someone that won't compete in international contests.If your theory was right 600 would have been done years ago.
@themetalgod2112 жыл бұрын
Respond to this video...Could he have jerked it????I've seen misha jerk 600 from behind the back, so i would say maybe.But going from 586 to 640 is no different then going from 460 to 586.People probably said it couldn't have been done,but it was.It was also done by mainly one man alexeev, which is all the more incredible.
@themetalgod2113 жыл бұрын
No not true,most blacks are thin like basketball players.It seems to me when you say average guy your imagining a 5'6 Jewish guy with thick glasses.The best example i can goibe you is Kevin Durant .When they had him bench press he couldn't bench 135 pounds and I laughed my ass off.But the dude is a mean ass basketball player.It showed me that the nba players are weak and strength really isn't the determining factor for success.
He had 60 out of meet drug tests that year and passed them. And he tried the heaviest weight ever here in OLWL history with a realistic chance of getting it. (till now, Nov. 2011), 266,5 (not 266). Only man in history to have a realistic shot at that with all the drug tests to show as well.
You're kidding yourself if you think he wasn't on gear. People have all sorts of tricks to pass, and in the 80s there were far more options. I'm not saying it's bad either, all of his opponents would have been exactly the same, let's just not lie to ourselves here.
@@fathertedczynski Cheating is cheating, regardless of how many of his opponents were cheating. It's not commendable to steal, lie, cheat, or kill, just because others do it. But then again, it's not proven that Nerlinger cheated. Everyone is innocent until proven guilty.
Right and drug tests always catch cheaters.
Amazing
great gutsy effort .
incredible
@tommypickles7 Ah I believe he's referring to Brian Shaw (who also played basketball), not Shaq. The first "Shaq" was a typo.
How long before we see a 600 pound C&J?? Or will we??
He was really close to making it. German school of weightlifting is really specialized in jerk, they are all awesome jerkers ( no pun intended )
such strong legs, HOW THE HELL DID HE RECOVER THAT!
i didnt realize this was in slomo until like 5 secs after the clean. i was like wtf
I saw another comment about this .the lifters who bailed should be reprimanded..I saw most just walk off the platform. Ive spotted everything from special Olympics to the WPO Novice to elite.. These spotters did good..yet a little coaching and they can really improve..need to use a triangle when there are three spotters .when useing 5..side spotters need to be on each side of the weight to catch it going back or forward.. when I'm the back spotter..I make sure the lifter isn't coming out.. unless they dive forward..
@okzoia
@Myself0101 I dont know what is strong for you, but one guy from soviet weightlifting team saw Pisarenko front squating 300kg x 3 easy. I am always amazed when i see Pisarenko's speed of recovery from bottom.
It was Taranenko who front squatted 300 x 3. Pisarenko was said to frequently miss the front squat part of the clean after racking the weight in the bottom because his max front squat was like 5 kg over his best clean... He was a pulling machine though, and had the best SHW ratio ever in the C&J. A shame he couldn't lift 3 or 4 more years...
Who holds the record
@themetalgod21 it's like wilt chamberlain's 50 point per game avg it will never be broken unless the game changes.The same applies to Chamberlain 27 rebounds per game ave.It also applies to Rogers Hornsby's .424 batting average in a season.Nolan Ryan's 5700 k's are safe too.Randy Johnson struck out 300 batters like 6 times and has i believe the highest k''s per starter and pitched till 46 and still couldn't come close to Ryan's record.Some records will never be broken!!!!
I think if Rezazedeh had someone to push him, he might have had a chance. I always had a feeling he didn't even give a crap cause he could just go out and win it on the C+J whenever he needed, and he seemed to only care about breaking the "official" records, not the longstanding "unofficial" WRs. I think the scenario necessary is for 2 youngish rivals to come along and push each other. Call me crazy, but what if Salimi gets a youngish rival to come along and start challenging him? (Mendes??)
@themetalgod21 I believe the 600 pound c&j will come along. Some old records stood for years and years, then came to be broken regularly. If I remember correctly, the heavyweight class of today still has catching up to do to beat Yury Zakharevich's lifts. Yet, who could have predicted him? Rezazadeh came close to Krastev's and Taranenko's lifts. There have been people in the past whose strength is still unbeaten. Angus McGaskill comes to mind, as well as Paul Anderson. Why not again?
Name's Lasha :-) 500 snatch and 600 clean and jerk will be done if he doesn't injure himself
Amazing strength, but sadly it was a no lift when he adjusted it on his shoulders at the bottom anyway :(
Schade!!!
@lizardlava100 C&j isn't powerlifting :P
I hope none of you are comparing today's bars compared to back then's bars and weights. Way different guys including the training for each lifter.
If Shaq chose to be a powerlifter, he would easily smash C&J record. dude played basketball at 405 lbs some years. Thats running and mostly cardio and hes still that big. Its easy to say he would have competed at 450-460 lbs as a powerlifter. I have seen him once in person he is simply massive. All we need is another Shaw to come along!! ha
close..........
Insanity. This is insanity.
@bourquechris He does have down syndrome. Down syndrome as in, I have two hundred and sixty six kilograms on my shoulders and it's pulling my face down. But I see it too.
In history out training gym.. lonely Kurlovitch Nerlinger and Taranenko ordoned 266 ... lonely Taranenko do it... if you added the 272 of Chemerkin ( locked but no stand up he fall direct in rear) and 267 Taranenko (no jerk)........this video is one of Top 5 of higher CJ attempts..........1) Taraneko 266 "sonboy chips " 1988 2) Kurlovitch 266 "press out"" . (Robbed for lot of....) 3) Nerlinger 266 THIS VIDEO 4). 267 Taranenko Clean.. 5) Chemerkine 272 Crazy attempt
People give alexeev too much credit. He was ahead of his time, but his best clean and jerk was 256kg, which would have been red lighted nowadays
@lizardlava100 shaq's a stunning athlete, with mindboggling coordination (see breakdance skills :) ), but his proportions aren't right for weightlifting. The best lifters are compact. It's unfair to expect him to get under the bar at his height, even moreso for a 260 kg bar
The current world record for a clean and jerk is 580 pounds (263.0kg).
@bourquechris roids and such, performance enhancing drugs. Obviously people can't compete using the stuff that they used to as easily w/o getting caught, but if powerful new drugs, "restoratives", come into play faster than the tests evolve, lifters will make use of that
@Swiley117 Not on Earth he couldn't.
Imagine lifting that off the floor.
More a loosing of concentration...(he loose self trust il final phase of lock arms and recepting bar) very sad. Propulsion is good
На тренировках он толкал поболее- это видно
@themetalgod21 chemical restoratives are evolving and the WADA has yet to catch up to decades old chemicals. The man that breaks 600 will come from nowhere a year or two before an olympics hitting 95% of the world record then break it at Olympics. Future world record holders will not have a track record of competing internationally because of doping tests.
Chemerkin came close to cleaning 599.5 at the Sydney Olympics...
Pisarenko and Alexeev supposedly did in training. And Pis supposedly jerked it too. Chermerkin was a beast though, too bad he lacked so much in the shoulder mobility departement...
Chemerkin attempted 600.76 lbs
Толстый слишком и тяжелый
True!!!!!!!!
Schade Manfred hat nicht viel gefehlt...
The problem is the strict drug testing regulations forcing the weightlifters to duck the testers and not take as many drugs. Even the drugs they do get now are shit quality to the ones the ussr were providing their athletes. In the last olympics the gold was won with only a 247 c&j. If anything the guys are getting weaker.
However when they have a player that is large like shaq the other black players can't stop him because he was bigger and stronger them.He didn't have any skills!!!! Yet, when Yao ming camer to the nba and was 7'6 and bigger then shaq, oneal had problems with him.
@lizardlava100 Shaq at 400 pounds i doubt it.Black people are not that strong in particular.Shaq wasn't nearly as massive as Andre the giant.
@bourquechris Eh, genetics are a bit overrated; i mean, there are probably hundreds of nfl guys who could competent, if not superior genetics. The gene pool is already there, and has been for a while, "improvements" in genes would probably be negligible. What would make a huge difference is training, obviously, but those limits are basically being met as well. That leaves ped's; they're the factor in the old records still standing, and could be the future as well
@crackyflipside How about never????i have good reasons to support this.Alexeev took the jerk record from under 500 to 568 in 7 years. That was an improvement of over 70 pounds from the years 1970 to 1977.Since then in the past 33 years the record has gone up less then 20 pounds with other great lifters barely nudging the record along.If a lifter was of Alexeev's caliber and accomplished what he did, he would have took the the 568to around 640 but no one has come along in the world.
@crackyflipside What you said is pure bullshit.Do you actually think the lifitng community is not going to notice someone that won't compete in international contests.If your theory was right 600 would have been done years ago.
Respond to this video...Could he have jerked it????I've seen misha jerk 600 from behind the back, so i would say maybe.But going from 586 to 640 is no different then going from 460 to 586.People probably said it couldn't have been done,but it was.It was also done by mainly one man alexeev, which is all the more incredible.
No not true,most blacks are thin like basketball players.It seems to me when you say average guy your imagining a 5'6 Jewish guy with thick glasses.The best example i can goibe you is Kevin Durant .When they had him bench press he couldn't bench 135 pounds and I laughed my ass off.But the dude is a mean ass basketball player.It showed me that the nba players are weak and strength really isn't the determining factor for success.