FUTURE 2NE1: Where Are They Now? YG's new girl group that went missing (BLACKPINK, trainee system)
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Today, we are discussing the pre-debut group "FUTURE 2NE1" that was formed under YG Entertainment, home to mega girl group BLACKPINK! The group never got to debut and the members followed individual paths. We will take a look at the project and their careers uptil today.
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Aside from the facts backed by sources presented in the video, all connections made are purely personal ideas and are not supposed to be recognized as reality. The purpose of this video is exclusively to report on the situation, not to defame any of the companies or persons involved.
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[SOCIAL MEDIAS]
YOUHA
Instagram / u_youha
Tiktok / u_youha
Facebook / official.youha
Twitter / youha_official
ROYA
Instagram / royapark
Soundcloud / real-roya
KZhead / @rare_and_odd_young_as...
LEE SEOYEON / fromis_9
Instagram / im_theyeon
Twitter : / realfromis_9
Facebook : / officialfromis9
Instagram : / officialfro. .
Weverse : www.weverse.io/fromis9/feed
Fancafe : cafe.daum.net/fromis9
TikTok : / official_fromis9
MOON SUA / Billlie
Twitter / billlieofficial
Instagram / billlie.off. .
TikTok / billlie.official
Facebook / billlie.offi. .
Weverse weverse.io/billlie/feed
FanCafe cafe.daum.net/Billlie
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TIMESTAMPS
00:00 - Introduction
00:45 - YG Entertainment / 2NE1
01:36 - The Beginnings
02:08 - BLACKPINK
02:48 - FUTURE 2NE1
03:19 - Park Seoyoung / ROYA
04:13 - Lee Seoyeon
04:51 - Moon Sua
06:09 - Im Youha
07:47 - Additional Members
09:04 - Whats Left?
11:07 - Where is the Limit?
12:03 - Dropping Out of the System
13:27 - Final Thoughts
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I’m so glad Moon Sua debuted in Billlie, the concept fits her so well and she’s able to show off her great dancing skills and vocals (in addition to her rap talent) which I don’t think we would’ve gotten to see if she debuted under YG
Billie nugu tho Tsuki and friends
@@Queen-dl5ju lies
@ user-fc5hh9ln1z just because you only know Tsuki doesn’t mean Billlie is ‘Tsuki and friends’. Anyone who’s watched any of Billlie’s performances know they’re all talented and all treated like equal members of the group
@@Queen-dl5ju hey you can just stop
@@Queen-dl5ju Tbh, Moon Sua, Sheon and Tsuki are pretty popular
Youha is such a gem. She has everything to be a top solo artist, but her company really seems to be the issue here. It's so sad, training in a TOP3 company for decades for false promises, only to end up in a company that does not give her the promotion she so rightfully deserves. I am still glad she is releasing music, 'NUMB' from her mini album is one of my favorite songs, and I hope in the future she can find a home that can give everything to her.
She’s under universal music Korea, which whilst might not give her as many activities, is a very stable company to be under, they’ll never go broke and she will always have a budget behind her, so it could be way worse
I agree youha has really good quality music and she very much stands out as a soloist. I hope she blows up despite the lack of promotions and marketing behind her.
i think its actually great in her company. she has the freedom to write for other groups, collab with western artists, collab with other korean artists, do her own tiktoks and meet her friends. she also can write and make her own songs under the company since the start as well. they dont look like much but she is getting better treatment than some other companies out there
It's crystal clear that universal music Korea also values her as a writer and producer, she is really talented in that department as well. Even tho her career didn't took off I feel like she's doing fine
@@ber245 well, if she is happy in her company, which like you mentioned she seems like it, that fantastic! i just wish as a fan, she had more promotions. universal does have the money to send her to music shows, so i wonder why she doesn’t perform. it could be that she herself doesn’t want to.
there needs to be laws requiring companies to let go of trainees faster or guarantee them some sort of career after x amount of years. Wasting 7-10 years of someones time is just cruel.
2:32 just a tiny correction, pink punk was initially a 9 member group. YG planned to have a younger version of 2ne1 (future 2ne1) and the yg version of girl's generation (pink punk). Jennie said multiple times that the line up kept changing, people leaving and people coming, then it became 7, then 5 (with miyeon) and finally 4, but by that point the entire pinkpunk concept had been scratched already.
it's crazy how they had so many talented girls and so many resources and just hung them all by a string, stressing them out for no reason for so long. it makes me mad lol.
@@SassiFrassGirl08 100% agreed!! Also, many trainees that had some training in the 3 big3 said yg's training system is the most grueling so I can't even imagine the hell these young girls went through.
has anyone mentioned why they didn't debut miyeon - i remember seeing that she left bc she wasn't sure when she would debut (not bc of the dating scandal) so was that because they kicked her out of the lineup?
@@ais25052 one of the things jennie said was that when it was the 4 girls "it just worked" so maybe yg didn't like the 5 member formation or didn't think miyeon fitted the concept as well, but we can't be that sure.
@@rosiebonnie thanks!
Can’t believe yg had the audacity to say moon sua wasn’t ready after she literally won 3rd place in a rap competition for established female rappers, while she was still a rookie. 😡
Was she only good at rapping or other fields of talent? You can’t just be a rapper and debut you need to be skilled in other places
@@Black_Girl_Centraloh lord you literally replying to every comment 💀 get a grip annoying blink
@@tomie8015 i have a lot but ain't wasting that over a whole paragraph lmao
Agree!
@@Black_Girl_Central think it was age. She danced well, she rapped well. She was already 6 years old as an apprentice, it is very likely that she already knew how to sing. SuA of hers before entering YG she took dance and singing classes with her brother Moonbin. All the girls in Future 2in1 had more training than Blackpink. What they didn't have was the age for a slightly daring concept. I think so. Sorry for my English.
4:55 I am so happy Moonsua debuted in Billlie! She is truly a all-rounder,a main rapper,a lead vocalist, and a great dancer! I am so happy she is currently a MC and she is thriving and getting opportunities with Billlie.
we always talk about how JYP has lost potentials by not accepting them into the company like Kai, IU etc… BUT WHAT ABOUT YG AND HIM LITERALLY GATEKEEPING SOME AMAZING IDOLS AFTER ACCEPTING THEM ??
What him? Who are being gatekeep?
@@rureroryruri the many trainees that had left the company or are still under it because their potentials had been wasted and never debuted because YG tend to not debut a gg for years and years
@@rureroryruri idk how they work when it comes to bg but it’s a pattern for gg and it’s not me hating on the company, it’s just what I see you know
@@marwaessaadi people’s chemistry aren’t stable - one day on evaluation they excel in one group, one they don’t shine. The label (correction not just HIM you are talking about because judges during evaluations include producers and staff even senior artists are present too to observe) - are meant to debut a group that gets along with each other and not just competing with each other. It is not their fault that some younger trainees shine at certain scenario and gets to debut earlier. It is all about who is ready to be in a group and face the idol realty rather than first come first debut or age heirarchy though. Also YGE bg literally showcased trainees in YGTB so that other companies can take a look at their potential too if they were not chosen to debut. Most were chosen to be main roles of other groups too when they debut. For gg - it is literally an issue magnet when they are exposed during trainee days because of social media and netizens investigating their pasts looking for faults or scandals during school days hence most trainees under them are not allowed to have heir own social media page; do you think they fit the YG group they tried to create? Other trainees are not being gatekeep - they are free to go whenever they want to; they are equipped with skills honed under their trainee program without even paying back debts. As a business investor, you are of course allowed to make aware of your trainees to be focused on being a trainee because of debut being a media personality to perform right? if they are not contracted under them then they don’t have any hold against someone either. 😅
Oh YG the man himself also has his fair share on celebrities he didn't accept: Rain, Park Bo Gum, Chungha, Wendy ( Red Velvet), Crush, and Honey Lee.
What makes YG disregarding these girls even worse is that they may have been disregarded for their appearance rather than talent. YG himself is known to be a misogynist who spoke openly about how “ugly” the 2NE1 members were and stated that any future girl groups he would debut would be more beautiful. It may have been his insane beauty standard and shallow view of women which lead to him choosing the Blackpink members to debut rather than ‘Future 2NE1’ because he saw them as more attractive and profitable. Yet another example of how women are constantly mistreated in the kpop industry :(
EXACTLY THIS!
I think Blackpink debuted in 2016 after 2NE1 lost a member in Minzy and the other members were still in the middle of their contract negotiations. Perhaps Blackpink would not have debuted if all of 2NE1 members were still going great together. It was the sliding door moment back then and perhaps that also affected the chance of debuting the Future 2NE1 group down the track.
Idk, since the point of 2ne1 was their music and strong concept rather than looking pretty. If this was sm then for sure. There was a rumour years ago around pink punk times that yg was going to debut a group where no members have plastic surgery and weren’t allowed to. Akmu suhyun spoke before that although they might recommend a surgery no one is forced. Of course we don’t know the real reason these girls didn’t debut with yg, training every day for 10 years to not be picked to debut must’ve been so so disheartening
I was agreeing with you until you implied blackpink was chosen to debut over the members of future 2ne1 solely for their looks, as if they themselves don't have talent or are not also mistreated to this day by the company.
@@rosiebonnie wasn’t implying that at all, just implying that blackpink conform to Korean beauty standards more than the other trainees at the time. I mentioned talent in that it’s unfortunate that overall the way you look is favoured more than how talented you are but that’s not to say blackpink aren’t talented.
The trainee system needs to be overhauled. First of all trainees should not have to pay the company back at all, especially since most of them are minors. I think their should be an age limit to become a trainee, their should be a contract with a period of at most three years, and their should be some form of payment, certification, or reward. Also the number of trainees should be reduced drastically, perhaps just being a pre-debut team. SIDE NOTE: I'm so glad Miyeon was let go out of Pink Punk and instead found a great musical home with (G) I-DLE. She has so much more creativity freedom and opportunity for musical expression at CUBE. She already released a whole EP which became one of the highest selling solo albums at CUBE!
Very good points, I'm curious to see if we will see more humane methods being implemented in the future! Thank you for watching! ❤️
Fromis, Billlie and Youha herself are making great music. Chaein and Purple Kiss recently released the 5th album (Chaein is a very gifted composer!)
abittipsy was my most streamed song of last year-one of the best kpop releases of all time honestly. It was so so ridiculously good. So glad that she's continued to release music. Last Dance was such a great comeback as well
abittipsy deserved To go viral
@@Matthew-sl8dx it really should've
I absolutely love this song! Probably one of my favorite song up to this day.
Imagine spending 10 years in a company to not even debut that right there would be my villain origin story istg
I have a full Youha & fromis_9 collection My bestie has a full Billlie collection & my Besties sister has a full BLACKPINK collection Literally we are missing only SECRET NUMBER
I've been listening Youha's Last Dance since it came out, the best kpop song of 2022 imo
Probably one big factor of them deciding to leave YG in 2018-2019 was because of the Big scandal YG has faced around that time. Debut was nowhere in sight and they are getting "older". Last we've seen of MoonSua and Youha in YG was in the show YG Future Strategy Office in 2018 Also, aside from her song credits during UPRS2 Sua also helped wrote some rap parts of a song for Mixnine while in the YG dungeon.
That scandal happened in 2019 but Park Seoyoung (ROYA), Jinny Park and Lee Seoyeon (and many other YG trainees) already left the company before that. Moon Sua and Im Suah (Youha) left in 2019 and u can make a case of these 2 leaving because of the scandals.
@@davidwong6682 thanks for correcting! It was just a thought because I was wondering before why they (mainly Sua and Youha) didn't leave earlier like the other known trainees.
@@stkm85 I mentioned this because the 3 mentioned trainees left YG before joining Produce 48 and, in the case of Lee Seoyeon, Idol School.
It’s odd to me how YG makes some of the best trainees in the industry yet never debuts these extremely talented lineups. Almost every ex-YG trainee that debuts under another company ends up being a main or lead vocal/dancer/rapper and many have producing or composing credits. Goes to show that a successful idol isn’t only made by their talent but also if their company can properly utilize it. RIP to the childhoods of all the Pink Punk, future 2NE1, and Silver Boys trainees.
OMG I love Roya’s music and I didn’t know she had this much history. It’s heartbreaking because her music is so chill and she could do so much more with the right support
Yeah but it's hard for her to get the support because of her being an independent artist. One can only hope that she gets more exposure.
too bad she sucked in produce which made so many people hate her for her attitude and having no skill LMAO maybe she would’ve been better known
we need to get children out of the idol industry. this is seriously doing more harm than good
I was searching for Youha information. I'm glad she's still in the industry. I enjoy her music so much. I will search for the rest of the members
Youha is amazing, my favorite soloist
I would say that training for 2-4 years should be enough. 2 years for the naturally talented at 4 years for the diamonds in the very rough. I'd say that it doesn't really work to train for over 5 years. You could argue that Jihyo and Moon Sua ended up doing well, but relatively they are still outshined by co-idols who trained less, even within their own group. Objective skill isn't everything either in kpop, sadly. You're idol material or you're not really. It's also kinda harsh to force these young teens to train for THAT long in general without any reasonable guarantee. It must've crushed their sense of self identity and self worth. I hope they are happy in life now. I also hope we don't go to a 1 year training system either, because now we got full groups who can't even sing live anymore. So yeah, I rest my case. 2-4 years is ideal and they wouldn't be too old to re-sign with a new entertainment if they dropped out.
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It's this sort of video that just makes you realise all over again how horrifying this industry is. The fact that it's considered normal to give up your entire childhood to dedicate your life to a career that fans basically expect to be over by the time you're 25 is absolutely insane. In the west, we have so many artists who start their careers around that age, and it might be a little harder for them since they have to support themselves while doing it, but nobody even thinks to see them as old. It's so sad that kpop careers are expected to last less than ten years. If fans were more kind, and if the industry wasn't such an awful one to be in (unless you meet very specific standards and get very, very lucky) then more idols would be able to have long and fulfilling careers with room to pursue other things that make them happy.
Youha has amazing music and she deserves waaay more popularity.
Yg has the worst habit of dragging along even their most talented trainees for years and years giving them false hope
And only of the 10% debuting only 0,1% become Fame the others still struggle to suceed and can even disbanded after 1 Song or 1 Album or more but still disbanded because of the Company. bugAboo, BVNDIT, Lunarsolar, Sonamoo, Gugudan, Hot Issue, Bling Bling as example.
Last Dance by Youha was one of my favorite Solos from last year. Didn't know she was a YG trainee.
What is sad, is yg probably would have definitely gave them a debut now. The age of debates have decreased significantly. It must have been hard for some of the girls under yg for years to watch Rosé come in and debut so quickly.
such a good video! really well explained, i was looking for something like this, as a huge roya fan!
5:00 Moon Sua was on Unpretty Rapstar 2. UPR3 was the season with (G)I-DLE’s Soyeon and The Ark/KHAN’s Euna Kim.
Actually Euna Kim was in the original 9-member Pinkpunk project group YG set up way back. I'm really happy for Moon Sua though. She persisted for so long and is now a member of Billlie. Contrary to what most people think, the almost 10 years that Moon Sua trained in YG has not been wasted. If anything, the skills she learnt in YG may have carried over to her new agency.
@@davidwong6682 Did you mean to respond to someone else? I’m just talking about Unpretty Rapstar. The voiceover in the video at the time stamp I put said that Sua was in Unpretty Rapstar 3 when she was actually in Unpretty Rapstar 2. All I just mentioned were some significant candidates from UPR3 which one of which happened to be Euna Kim happened to be on and I never mentioned anything about Euna Kim being in Future 2NE1.
i feel like one of the reason why the project got scrapped was bcs of 2ne1 inactivity that lead to their disbandment in 2017. yg had planned to debut pinkpunk first who was planned to be the snsd of yg, and then future 2ne1 later since theyre younger. but after 2ne1 went on hiatus and no longer active yg changed the direction for pinkpunk and debut them as four membered group. after bp garnered big success, they dont feel like debuting 'another 2ne1' so they scrapped the future 2ne1 project
Youha is such an underrated artists. I hope she gets more fame in the future
You should do a vid on Dal Shabet next!! They have such an interesting and somewhat sad story, went from to one of the most successful rookie groups with millions of sales to irrelevant to the industry in there final years. I love them sm and still hope for a reunion comeback one day
You covered literally ALL the aspects. Great video tbh .
Thank you very much for watching!
I'm so happy for another video! I love your videos
The kpop trainee system isn’t ethical. It will go the same way as the Hollywood studio system. Imagine being Youha. So talented. And the only reason why she isn’t on the covers of magazines is because some old man decided she wasn’t going to.
YHS was the ultimate boss of YG. Your boss can fire you, not just some random old man.
was waiting on this!
Thank you for spreading light on these girls! ♥
YOUHA MY FAV SOLOIST. MOON SUA ACE
could you make another video explaining about the A and B team of YG trainees?
Amazing video
Thank god Seoyeon debuted with Fromis_9 instead
Just because someone is talented doesn’t mean they have what it takes
@@Black_Girl_Central me when I’m delusional:
@@Black_Girl_Centralyes blackpink being the exact proof
@@karinasnooodles_ yikes you thought you ate?people who don’t have what it takes are usually not popular even behind companies. Try again sweetie ;)
@@Black_Girl_Central yes if you not pretty or from a rich family you ain't famous yes🥺
If they train for a long time under companies such as YG, SM, and JYP, and then leave at least there is hope some other companies will fight to get them to join.
Finally a new video :)
When I heard the name "Moon Sua" I went "YASS SLAY QUEEN, MOON SIBLINGS POWER"
Youha is AMAZINGGGG Its a pity shes still nugu, it has all rounder qualities: vocals, charisma, lyrics, concepts for each song. Please check her music if you never heard before🙏😭
Would love a PinkPunk version of this video!
YGE intended to debut two girl groups for 3rd generation. Just like Winner and iKON. Two groups with completely different image. Future 2ne1 was intented to debut sometime in 2019 but lost the momentum because of scandals the company has been facing at that time. Even Treasure's debut was delayed because of this.
YG had a lot of plans regarding the debut of girl groups which never happened. The first project was SUPEARLS (supposed to be a vocal group) which was composed of Lee Hi and kpop star contestants. They were set to debut around 2011-2013 but never happened. The next announced project was PINKPUNK (aka yg version of SNSD). They were supposed to be 9 members and was supposed to debut in 2012. This never happened but 4 out of 9 of the supposed members debuted later as BLACKPINK. Lastly was the FUTURE 2NE1 project. They were supposed to debut in 2016, which was pushed to 2018 then was pushed to 2019 until it never happened. Now we have BABYMONSTER, which was rumored to come out last year but is just revealed this year.
Lol I knew Moon sua because of the second world it's a shock to me that she's one of the supposedly member of that group😱💥 also her phrase "Billlie on air" on the first stage keeps ringing in my head whenever I hear her name😂😂
Wishing them all success ❤
And also, this another reason why minors shouldn’t be in the idol industry
Yg is kinda a messed up company ..
Now i'm really fear to Baby Monsters future since their member debuting in 13-14 years old They are too young to through this cruel industries, i hope YG can treat them better
this really comes to show how talented YG artists/trainees are. the fact that they all have careers is great, i'm so happy for them.
It's so sad to see idols who have trained for so many years never getting to debut. Only 10% even making it. So many dreams crushed 😢
I supported these 4 girls alongside PinkPunk/Blackpink when they were all still trainees. I waited for Blackpink's debut and waited for the remaining girls (Future2NE1) to debut as well, but we all know YG likes wasting talents so he let all these talented girls go. I still support all of them, but my ult is Moon Sua.
I’m so happy sua is in billlie. I can’t believe yg basements talented artists like this
you guys HAVE to listen to Roya’s blue pill it’s soooo good
so glad fromis have seoyeon
park seoyoung is so cool, i remember following her on pd48 and really rooting for her. she really stuck out with her bleached hair, but i dont think she quite got to make a name for herself on there, unfortunately. it seems like not a lot of people remember her now... which confuses me, because she always caught my eye. i know shes released her own music, but thats pretty much it. i feel sad for her.
I am so saddened for them fr…
Ngl but I find it funny how it's ygs most talented trainees who weren't able to debut/held back from debuting (chaein, moonsua, miyeon, youha etc) compared to other trainees which debuted who I think are much weaker singers than these girls
fromis_9 is making a comeback this March! Tune in for some heat 🔥🔥🔥
It's actually funny cause I barely found out about Youha and then I saw this video
I'm so glad my queen Miyeon is in (G) i-dle
a lot of the girls are still in contact with each other like sua and youha, i'd love for a reunion someday, yg did them so dirty 😭
TraineeA went through the same at HYBE. Most of the members left the industry and it’s so sad to see young people waste years training never to debut 😢
Youha is prolly as talented as blackpink and even more in terms of vocals, composing and song writing. She also has amazing visual. It's just sad how only some people are destined to be big.
Youha vocals aren’t better than ROSÉ and I can guarantee you that Lisa dance skills and Jennie raps will outshine her in any second
@@Black_Girl_Central no they don’t, jisoo is a dozen she can’t sing dance or rap and has the sp of a celery and she also need to blow her nose , Jennie can’t sing or dance, Lisa is stuck with a blaccent everytime she raps and she can’t sing, and rose sounds like a dying goat with her cursive singing.
@@Black_Girl_Central Sorry, but her vocals are at the same level. Her voice is extremely versatile. And rap isn't her field.
@@redsimonDE Stop lying. Even SM wouldn’t take her
@@Black_Girl_Central LOL probably never heard her songs or performances. :D
1:15 their debut song was ‘fire’ not ‘I don’t care ‘
According to Wikipedia their debut album contained "Fire" and "I don't care", the latter which was crowned song of the year :)
Wikipedia is you're source? lol!
This is the reality for most kids that dream to be idol. Only %5 will make it. And not "only the best" we have seeing in mayor companies that they debut black holes lol, so is a combination of factors. You can make it or you can "waste" all your teen years training instead having fun with your friends. Chase your dreams with realistic expectations.
maybe i'm just uninformed but i'm surprised there isn't a huge unemployment crisis in Korea because of all these kids who drop out of school to become idols and it never happens
I think the reason is similar to Japan= no new people to work equals to the old ones having to double working until they can't anymore. I can see it soon becoming a problem, specially now that kpop it's way more popular and every 2 hours a new group debut and with the birth rating falling more and more.
Most of them still work part-time jobs though
its misinformation that most korean teens want to be idols, the tops 5 of jobs by teens are teacher, official, policemen, cosmetolosgist , landlord (? not about this one). so no worrie
@@posthumangel Many idols who are not famous take part times job to actually get an earning. Of idols are not on famous groups like BTS, EXO, Blackpink and Aespa than they usually have part times jobs. Someone from Stellar even said she earned more from her part time job than her idol career.
Any intentions of making one about fx 😅
Kim Euna would have also been a good mention!
All the expenses YG spent to train and support these girls are for investment and they don't ask them to return as mention by one of the insider on one of Seunghoon Winner youtube video
Miss the Queens of K-pop 2ne1
Wasn't Ireh from Purple Kiss a trainee at YG relatively the same time as Chaein?
With yg you’ll never know if you’ll actually debut or not. Even yg artists have said it themselves, yg just goes with the flow. Yoon from winner said “You don’t know if you can become a singer at yg.” You might audition for dancer but become a rapper or even an in house producer. But training there gives you lot of good opportunities. They really invest in you, they even have debate classes so you can learn to speak up for yourself. They also hook you up to other agencies. I know this by watching their survival shows and what other ex trainees and yga have said. I could go on and on 😅 but yeah if you wanna debut in yg nothing is 100%
seoyeon❤️❤️
I thought Youha debuted under S2 entertainment.
i think youha is doing pretty good tho. she has freedom to compose and write while also releasing her own music that can be backed up by a stable label. there’s millions of musicians that can’t even get to 1 million views on their video and she doesn’t get to deal with the expenses of music shows and such so i don’t think that she’s in a bad place especially compared to full on idols under companies that get that many views each comeback. might be wrong tho (hope not cause shes amazing)
Wasn’t Chaein from Purple Kiss also a YG trainee or am i wrong maybe?
i think it should be illegal to waste kids youth like that just to not guarantee a debut. its not right. i know they got a lot of training and help but im sure seeing people who joined after you debut before you is horrible.
You said not compensated? YG trainees had paid allowances and it has been that way among all big labels. Maybe u meant compensated for debuting.
This is why minors shouldn't debut
Where's miyeon? Miyeon is part of yg and debut for black pink?
I genuinely feel like training periods are getting shorter and shorter. For example: SNSD Jessica, Yoona and Seohyun trained for 6-7 years. Twice Jihyo 10 years. Then you compare it for recent groups - Aespa Giselle trained 10 months, Jimin BTS 1 year, Yuna/Yeji 3 years. It seems companies wanna pump out young groups quick to see if they're successful then disband quickly if not.
Wonder Girls Yeeun trained for 'a couple of days' until debuting in 2007. EXO's lead vocal Baekhyn and main vocal Chen trained for 3 months until debuting in 2012, but they had vocal lessons outside of the company before becoming trainees. 2 Super Junior members who are also known for their vocals debuted after 2 months of training in 2005. Twice is actually a more 'recent' group than BTS (2015 for twice and 2013 for bts) and Mina from Twice only trained for 1 year as well as BTS Jimin. So while I mostly enjoy 'old' kpop songs, I don't think that this short training is some recent trend.
Thats a good thing not a bad thing wasting your Childhood on training is insane
I don’t think they were promised anything, they are aware of this
This is so bizarre
This ain’t different than sports in which it’s 1/1000 of getting drafted… from eligible draft players. Then you still haven’t made it. You have a better chance of being a kpop idol than being Major Junior Ice Hockey player or a D1 College athlete let alone professional or being a elite footballer trainer in the EPL. They just don’t magically give your money back to your parents after your last year of junior a, when it’s obvious your ceiling is just the ringer at the beer league. I think the trainee system isn’t unique or even harsh, the issue is the lack of parental involvement and a lot of unabated access to children. Which western sports system have a much better system for, while not perfect; it’s not locked away form the world for 1-6 years at 13 years old and heaven for bid you got the goods but not the face.
Correction FIRE IS THE DEBUTE SONG NOT I DONT CARE 😅
Fire was their debut
What absolutely needs to change about the industry is debuting children. Baby Monster has a single member who is legally an adult. All others are children. That shouldn't be legal, especially after how YG treated Black Pink and most importantly 2ne1 in the past. But the same goes for the other companies. The industry is absolutely able to survive on groups with adult members only or drop the age of adulthood from 20 to 18 like Japan did. You're considered an adult at 18 in many, many countries. But to have 13-17 year old children debut into an industry as horrendously competitive, cut-throat and disgustingly hateful as the Kpop industry? No. That's just wrong on every single level.
Speaking of big 3. We can say whatever we want about jyp ent But we all know that jyp is the best handling artists and trainee compare to yg and sm Lee soo man basically robbing his own company and his artists Yang hyun suk being involved in all sorts nf illegal stuff and being misogynist Jyp has uit flaws but they still debut trainees thays been training with them for a long time.like jihyo Being a trainee in one company for 7 to 10 yrs and no one debuted is a definition of a trash company
what about chloe
YG or any kpop company promising success?? I don’t think they promise success or even a debut. They get trained but the trainees and families are aware they could be dropped any day. Unfortunately that’s the harsh reality and yes we can critize it and try to make changes but ultimately it’s all up to the trainees and if they are minors their families or guardians. It’s not only YGE that has these type of issues but somehow kpop fans always try to make it as a YGE problem and even more now when they have a new girl group debuting soon. Why all of you kpop fans are not voicing out and making videos about other companies that are even worse in treatment? Expose all of those companies that even after debuting a group the group members get treated poorly.
Oh nvm they were children, hell no.
moonsua is perfect in billlie so it was all for the best, yg music was never my taste while billlie fits my taste !!
No one can be on 2ne1 level
If only Jennie's bullying scandal didn't happen. Pink Punk and Future 2NE1 would debute :c
This comment makes no sense whatsoever. If Jennie had a bullying scandal she would had been left the company. Just focus on your flop fav
@@Black_Girl_Central you obviously are a toxic blink .You don't even know BP's story.When YG presented Jennie as the first PinkPunk member,they have to cancel the debut because Jennie's bullying rumors instead of expulse her from the company.
@Tomie 🖤 that was after Pink Punk debut was cancelled. Members couldn't wait a little bit more until Jennie's bully accusation was proven false.
@Tomie 🖤 Miyeon confirmed she left yg because of the delayed debut, she dated after leaving yg then after joined cube.
I can tell youre german hahah
ao much raw talent let go so much training and bp become such a mid group musically wise. common yg entertainment moment
not the bts stan saying that when songs like permission to dance exist
Future 2NE1? Lol why call it that
This may be a hot take, but I believe that the trainee system HAS to consist of preteens/children. Kpop in general is very fickle and at the end of the day, being an idol is a job, most of the time only contracted for at most 7 years (only a rare few groups re-sign and continue). The age of idols are on average between 16 and 27 and with that, they would need to be trained before debut. Most idols debut around the age of 18-20 with an average of about 4 years training which would put them at joining a company at around 13-14 (middle school). Obviously there would be the concern of wasted youth / childhood, however as a logical standpoint, it's much easier to chase your dream when younger because it is much easier to pivot and change career when younger. If it doesn't work out, and it doesn't for many hopefuls, they leave the trainee life roughly around the age of 16-22 which gives them ample time to refocus their life and career as opposed to someone in their mid to late 20s. The older you are, the more you have to lose, so although it may seem rough for kids to endure, it's ultimately better so that if / when the dream comes to an end, they can still bounce back in life.
Giving up my life for 4-6 years of being a trainee when I'm a child or in my teens is a much better prospect than giving up 4-6 years of my mid 20s when I've already started to build a life and identity. Putting your life on hold in your 20s with no safety net is reckless because when you come back to the work force, no one cares about you when you're an adult.
That’s a good point. I think a compromise that will satisfy all even companies is to allow training in ur middle to teen but always prioritize school and those that can do decently well and have the star quality talent vials ect, they can debut between 18-22 .
@@markigirl2757 Most if not all trainees are still enrolled in school, the only ones who are not are the ones who drop school or foreigners who choose not to enroll, or they've already graduated.