That's right folks, I finally upgraded the one feature of the Arcade1up Retro gaming cabinets that I really think was badly needed. They Joysticks have felt a little loose and squishy from day 1, and I mentioned this on my first video as well.
Now with this change and one more (inexpensive but spicy upgrade as well... watch to see...) the arcade cabinets are now perfect for me. Any other upgrades would be fun, but not needed in my opinion.
Turns out the upgrade was a bit more complicated then I thought it would be but I worked out the kinks and showed you guys how I did it too!
Here is my last Arcade1up video
• Arcade1up retro gaming...
Here is a link to the Sanwa Joysticks on Ebay
www.ebay.com/itm/Sanwa-Origin...
Here is the Ebay seller whom sells the awesome Joystick Bat-tops:
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/ edwin_the_magic_engineer
edwinthemagicengineer@gmail.com
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Windermere, FL 34786
Nice set up, I like how you explained stuff here too .
There is a plug and play method from DIY Retro Arcade. Just buy the Sanwa sticks there and make sure to select which wiring you need (check your arcade. Some ship with different methods of connecting the joysticks from the factory) There is three option on the website, I believe. You'd save so much time. The part that took the longest was making sure the sticks were centered in the holes when getting the pilot holes and screws drilled into the CP. Then just plug them into the empty sockets you pulled the original sticks from. Buttons from there also work great, also plug and play. Highly recommended. If you have questions email Scott, I think his name is.
Thank you! I did not want to do all that soldering and guessing. I'll pay the extra money and save all that hassle.
Thanks for the video. Didn't get a harness so rewired like you showed. So happy for your diagram. Thanks a lot. Now waiting for my Marvel machine to see what joysticks and harnesses I need for those.
FYI: I purchased some Sanwa Joysticks to swap out in my 1-Up machines (I have a SF and Rampage). Had the wire cutters and soldering Iron ready, yet found when I opened them up, that the existing joysticks in my cabs were slightly different (white plastic base instead of black), and are 5 pin/wire, so the Sanwas were simply just Plug and Play! (I used the existing wiring and plugs) So easy! What a relief.
I guess I'm kinda randomly asking but does anybody know of a good site to stream new series online?
@Jamie Genesis I would suggest Flixzone. Just google for it =)
@Jefferson Yahir Definitely, have been watching on Flixzone for since april myself =)
@Jefferson Yahir thank you, I signed up and it seems like they got a lot of movies there =) I appreciate it !
@Jamie Genesis you are welcome :)
I enjoyed this one. I appreciate that you showed how you arrived at the solution to the wiring issue, instead of just showing the answer. The stuffed animal PSA was fun. :)
Thanks Tavis. I had more footage of the circuit debugging and wiring but I decided it was too boring and made the video too long.
Thank you so much for the tutorial. Great job explaining the details and schematics. I was able to do this on my Pacman arcade, just had to invert the cables for my cabinet, but worked wonderfully.
John Gonzalez does that mean you had to do the wiring the opposite way? I’m having a tough time, I went by the video and assumed it worked the same way for the pacman
@@NaeroK87 I followed the video connecting the wires as shown, but for some reason, did not work on the pacman machine. So I connected the "common or ground" wires where the regular singles wires would have connected in the diagram and vice versa with the single wires and worked.
@@NaeroK87 I wonder if maybe the board used to connect the joystick on the pacman machine differs from the one used in the Rampage one since that one connects 3 joysticks. If you're not sure, follow the video instructions and if it doesnt work for you, wire the opposite way.
John Gonzalez yeah I tried that and it worked. The pacman must be opposite of the rampage. I figured they were all the same but yeah I switched the ground wires around and it worked great.
@john Gonzales, I just got Pacman and was wondering about the joystick. About how long would you say it took you to switch it out. This will be my first time doing this.
This was very helpful, I own a 1up Arcade cocktail table. just purchased the same joystick and also discovered I was going from 5 wires to eight wires. all my black wires are basically tied into each other which should be the ground. I will try to do change them on my own and hope not to blow out the entire arcade. Thanks Ed.
You are welcome! Thanks so much for coming back and letting me know this helped!
Whats up Edwin? When you opened up the Sanwa joysticks it reminded me of a short-throw shifter for a racecar or performance mod for a manual vehicle. Also when you took the factory joystick switches out it seemed like the same thing as having a regular keyboard and moving up to a mechanical keyboard (Night and Day difference!) The wiring seemed like a pain in the butt but you specialize in computer stuff so it probable wasn't too bad for you. Cool Video!
Hey Sean, I'm glad you enjoyed it. Yeah it was not difficult with my background but hopefully this is helpful to others wanting to do the same upgrade.
@@EdwintheMagicEngineer Most definately! I bet they won't have radioshack multi-meters though.
I appreciate the video in case i have to resort to this in the future on another project. But i am very glad someone in the commemts said you can buy a cable that does this without the rewiring. Still thankful, because i would not have known that if it wasnt for this video because then that comment would not have been left
When this video was made there was NOTHING out there explaining what I did and no products you could buy to accomplish the same thing. Now there is and that’s great. But as you noted sometimes somebody (in this case me) has to take that first step in solving a problem
Sweet upgrade!
Indeed! The cabinets play SO much better now!
Nice vid, and I just ordered some of those bat tops for my Rampage cab. However, you must not have played these games back in the day. All 4 of these games originally used ball top joysticks. Almost all of the original arcade games did. Not sure when the bat tops started to come in, but it was later.
that is a great arcade you got there good ol rampage!
I Love Rampage!!
Great Video Thanks!!! Btw, Wallmark sometimes has risers for $14.00.
Awesome job! Now, get some risers. :)
Got them now!
Hah, when I was a kid I had a ZX-Spectrum computer with a fantastic joystick :) When my father was playing the "Nether Earth" he got so passionate about the game and broke it. That Kempston joystick still must be somewhere in the garage :)
Sorry to hear that, must have been really frustrating. Did you keep the joystick around because you might be able to fix it?
Just what I was looking for. Had a joystick start malfunctioning on me today. Good time to upgrade, I guess.
Hello J Wunder, did you ever replace the Joystick? How did it work?
I have a Midway 12 in 1 arcade that has a bad joystick due to an over excited 4 year old. I haven't figured out how to get access to the control panel and don't want to break anything else. Any suggestions on how to proceed. Will the Sanwa joystick work as a replacement?
Well this looks way more complicated than I expected, I think I'll stick with the default stick after all.
I really don’t understand why u made this such a big production. I just replaced my A1up pacman stock Joystick 🕹 with a Sanwa. I ordered it from diyretroarcade.com. They offered 2 kinds of encoders: old dual 4 pin or 5 pin. My cab had the older dual 4 pin. So it came with that wire. All I had to do is open the deck. Remove the stock joystick. Switch plates from the A1up Joystick to the Sanwa so I don’t have to drill. Swap the 8 position gate on the Sanwa for the true 4 position gate on the A1up Joystick (both gates are just pieces of plastic). Screw in the Sanwa to the board. Attach the dual 4 pin wires to the up & down port and left & right port. Test, and then close the whole thing up and remount the deck. That’s all there is to it. Didn’t have to break out any test meters or anything. Sounds like ur trying to adapt a 5 wire setup. All I really needed was that one wire with 2 4pin connectors & I was off to the races. 10 minute install.
Very nice!
Glad you enjoyed it.
What size drill bit did you use to move the joystick up? Thanks!
I recently played with a Arcade1Up Street Fighter II display and I can attest that the controls do wear out over time as does the console art. If I ever purchase an Arcade1Up cabinet or two, replacing the controls for better ones will be my list. BTW, Greg Planamento made a vastly superior spinner for the Asteroids and Atari 12-in-1 cabinets and tested it on his KZhead channel. I do have to ask regarding upgrading the Arcade1Up speaker to duel speakers located on the control panel. Any advice on doing that and what type of speakers would you recommend?
Honestly I think the default speaker is just fine. It's plenty loud and with the big empty cabinet it actually sounds pretty good I think. I often find myself wishing there was a volume setting 1 notch LOWER on my SFII cabinet. BTW... now that I have upgraded the joysticks I'm pulling off fireball/uppercut tactic with really solid dependability! It's SO much better with a high quality joystick!
Hey, what do you have your cabinets mounted on? Thanks,
So the stock buttons on the mk2 buttons and joystick which version is it?
I followed your color scheme but my Sanwas send a message that the up is activated on both joysticks and I can't figure this issue out... I am stuck.
hahaha Undertale... what a nice choice of stuffed animals... So you are Edwin the Magic Electrical Engineer? Those joystick look and sound amazing... I bet the SF2 Arcade experience is way better xD!! Great Vid Mr
Yep, I have 2 degrees. One in Electrical Engineering and the 2nd in Computer Engineering. Then 15 years at Intel, 2.5 years at HP, and now working somewhere else. I don't get to talk about or use career skills very much on KZhead... it's not interesting to most people :)
@@EdwintheMagicEngineer that is what you are wrong about, you should do more videos like this. I really enjoy them, just like the video about your radio controlled car, where you talk a bit about your background
@@terryfeynman Well I suppose I'll just see how the feedback sections go as I make videos like this :)
@@EdwintheMagicEngineer I mean I am not saying you should make one every week, but definitely more then you are doing now. Your other videos that do not cover magic are also quite successful, so give it a chance, even if the very first is not a success right away. Sometimes you need a few attempts for a new thing.
Wow. This seems so longwinded. Great work though. I must have got lucky. My 1up joysticks were different to yours. They were 5 pin like the Sanwas. Also the base plate had 6 screws, 4 of which lined up perfectly with the Sanwa sticks, so no need to drill new holes. It literally was a 5 minute plug and play job.
That's what I was expecting based on what I read online... too bad mine was not that easy. I went back and forth on whether I should add all those details to the video, or just skip to the end result. I suppose I'll see if people like all the description or if they just want the answer.
@@EdwintheMagicEngineer definitely good that you added all the details. Will no doubt help many people who end up with these stock sticks. When I said 'longwinded' I was referring to the actual process. Your video/upload is spot on. 👌
yeah my holes almost lined up but not exactly, for me a better solution was to switch the base plates between sticks (old to new). works perfect and then you will have 100% perfect screw hole line up.
Maybe changing the springs would’ve done the job?
I like to play pacland with a joystick because you double tap to run is there anyway you can get a joystick to work on pacland?
The new 8-1 pac man partycade from HSN/QVC has pac land with a joystick. It also has pac man dig dug, galaga and xevious among others.
Dope!!!
Dope comment!
Lol I love all those games
would like more info on how you like the 1up cabinets!
I made another video on the topic, here ya go! kzhead.info/sun/gdFtfZiFhZeugo0/bejne.html
Would It be the same process for the Galaga 1Up arcade?
almost exactly the same... except it only had 2 switches (left and right) wired up instead of 4. Good news is that the color-assignments were exactly the same.
how long did it take you to switch out to the 3 Sanwa and have it up and running again, time in totall including drawing the diagram
I spent more time editing the video then reverse engineering the circuit and swapping out the joysticks LOL! Now that the circuit is known I could do another cabinet in 30-40 min I think. I spent a couple of hours on this one but I was also setting up shots and taking time to reverse engineer the circuit etc.
I think you should have titled this video "Arcade1Up Joystick Upgrade! SO COMPLICATED!!"
I used to think your was a family friendly channel... but this is porn. 😂
Nerds make me happy 🙂
LOL
Did you have any problem with the pac man hanging up when using the pac man arcade? Might have a bad controller, not sure.
What do you mean "hanging up" As in the ROM froze? Or the joystick was not responsive? Or some buttons didn't respond?
@@EdwintheMagicEngineer Think I found the problem. Had the inner ring set for 4way instead of 8way. Many thanks for responding.
You made this way harder than it is. All you need is a Sanwa arcade kit set that comes with a USB encoder. takes a few mins to do. ZERO solderings.
Diy Retro Arcade has Sanwa sticks that come with the 2 connectors like the original cheap sticks have. No USB encoder needed. They plug right into where the original got removed from. You gotta make sure you select the right wires "harness", I think there is 3 options on the website.
He should really take this down. So many have tried doing it this way needlessly. What a headache and waste of time!
Do you have a video doing a joystick install on a Pac-Man machine?
No... but I did convert my own Arcade1Up Pacman machine and it was the same circuit diagram for the joystick that I showed in the video. If you attempt a conversion using the Sanwa upgrade and run into a problem, email me. My email is in the video description. Good luck!
I just copied exactly what you did and none of the controls worked. Is it different for a pacman?
Email me a picture and schematic of what you did along with a description of what is happening now. Edwinthemagicengineer@gmail.com
Edwin the Magic Engineer thank you, I did figure it out after alittle bit of trial and error. Works great now, thanks for the video 👍
@@NaeroK87 Glad it's worked out. Just curious... what did the error end up being? Was my explanation or schematic confusing or something?
Edwin the Magic Engineer well pacman and rampage must be different. I followed exactly what you did and none of the controls worked at all. I switched the wires for the controls to ground wires and vice versa and it worked. I think I had to switch the wire that goes left around too but I think that was my mistake.
@@NaeroK87 Without seeing pictures of your work it's hard to know for sure... but it sounds like you swapped the signal wire and the ground wire somewhere. The easiest place to see a mistake like that happening is coming right off the PCB where the 8x original controller wires connected to the electronics board. I was able to pick the ground wires as ground because I could see the copper traces literally connecting 4 of them together right there so I knew they must be ground.
do you offer your services for a price?
This is all my free time and I'm doing it for fun. If this becomes work then I will literally have no more free time :(
Which of the cabinets do you see yourself using most?
by a HUGE longshot it's the Street Fighter II cabinet. Especially after putting in the Sanwa joysticks. 2nd place is the Rampage, Gauntlet, Joust and ... blah who cares cabinet. I play this cabinet easily 5 times as much as 3rd place. In 3rd place it's close... but Galaga, followed by Pac Man in last place.
@@EdwintheMagicEngineer what do you like? charge characters or the shotakan characters
@@EdwintheMagicEngineer I think I am replying to the wrong parts on the threads since I dont youtube much lol. SF 2 is a classic. I loved playing blanka in that one.
@@ouroboricform my favorites are Ken and Ryu, then I like Guile then Blanka
Are they a bit stiffer?
Yes they are. And the "click" activation is in a much better location. They not only work better they feel better. Sanwa's are the best.
@@EdwintheMagicEngineer thanks! Just bought mine yesterday and the stock joysticks feel a bit cheap...
How do you change springs?
I didn't I just swapped out the whole joystick.
You have to pop that little metal clip off the stick and then it's in there. They have videos on how to change the spring
Where do you get the joystick
www.amazon.com/Denshi-JLF-TP-8YTFAST-SHIPPING-Joystick-Adjustable/dp/B01CRQMWEQ/ref=redir_mobile_desktop?ie=UTF8&aaxitk=m3JSHrna6eBZ4SjTODU3hg&hsa_cr_id=3187236950901&ref_=sbx_be_s_sparkle_asin_1
@@EdwintheMagicEngineer will it work on pacman 40th additon
@@rickyholmes3549 I cannot 100% guarantee since I have never opened that one up myself. But I very much suspect it will have similar circuitry to other cabinets. Worst case (even though unlikely) I would be happy to help you with it if I can. My public email is listed in my video description, email me if you run into an issue and I'll work with ya.
So are you bodying scrubs in street fighter yet?
I used to be pretty up to par at Street Fighter 2. I'm so rusty now and working to get back dem leet skillz
👍
Just flip the control deck over on the cab to work on it...no towels needed.
that scratches the edges
I'm not paying 300 dollars for a faulty cabinet I have to fix myself. I heard there is sound issues with each different character, and you cannot go past lvl 30? That is unacceptable. I wouldn't pay more than 150 for this cab. Plus I never really cared for rampage. They should have put robotron on it, stargate, even berserk instead, or toki.
You can find these Arcade1Up cabinets on sale for as cheap as $79 - $99! Depends what you are going to do with them. I would find one for the cheapest you can and modify it and make it a MAME cabinet!
@@scottluther2091 you must be lucky because they are 300 dollars ar walmart in my area
Officially too complicated for me. Here's hoping I don't have any go out on me.
It's not that difficult. He had the wrong wiring harness set up for his machine so he had to rewire the whole damn thing. They sell like 4 different wiring set ups that work for different games. You literally just plug them into the right harness and you are good to go. You just have to take a look and match the correct wiring set up for the machine you have. If you can't figure it out you can send them a picture and they will get you the correct wiring harness set up for your machine. I am no electrician or mechanic and I did this fairly easily.
Man, you made this project way harder than it needs to be. You probably scared many people off. You bought the wrong wiring harness set up for your machine. They have them so you don't have to be an electrician to do this project. You just match the proper wiring set up at purchase and plug in the harnesses to the proper place. Also the Sanwa's still only come with a 1 pound spring. It's best to get a 2 or 4 pounder(your preference I would try both) while you are at it. They also sell those where they sell the joysticks. If you use the old plate with the new stick you don't have to do any drilling. It's a plug and play 10 minute install
None of that information was available or known to me until this very moment.
@@bigmacfullerton7870 Dude.. why are you acting so aggressive and rude?!? Like I said... your comment was the first time I have heard there are different Sanwa wiring setups and mounting plates. I have not yet verified that information either. So why be so insulting?
@@EdwintheMagicEngineer I'm sorry I thought you were being facetious. If you really didn't know this then I wholeheartedly apologize. I thought you were being sarcastic and I was just thinking of all the people you scared off or may have entered into this world of wiring hell needlessly. Again I apologize for being rude. You seem like a nice guy. diyretroarcade.com has 4 different wiring set ups that cover just about everything. Others have them too. Oh also Sanwa doesn't have other mounting plates you just use the old one, the original plate that comes with the game with the new joystick and it screws right in. You have to use the new mounting plate screws that came with the Sanwa stick and the old mounting plate that came with the game because the old screws won't fit in the Sanwa.
@@bigmacfullerton7870 Thanks for the apology and DUDE! That website is AWESOME! I'm going to buy several things from it very soon!
@@EdwintheMagicEngineer Cool! Glad it worked out!
youre so funny!! love ya
glad you liked it sweetie. I'm surprised you watched it until that point LOL
You needed to show splicing the wires. Did you just peel the rubber with a blade, then twist the wire and use electrical tape? That's not boring content.
Sooooooo 8 minutes in and he starts talking about the wiring......I'm out. Guess I'll keep the crappy arcade 1up sticks...
You should totally ask for a refund for the money you paid to access this content.
@@EdwintheMagicEngineer You should probably take this crap down and stop either scaring people off or wasting their time and getting them into a headache they don't need.
You don't need to do any wiring. This guy bought the wrong wiring set up for his machine then rewired the whole damn thing. lol All you have to do is take a look at what wire set up your machine has and then order it with the stick. They have 4 choices of wire harness set ups at diyretroarcade.com where you can get the proper one for your machine and just plug it in. This is nonsense.