1000CC ATVs Best and Worst | Outlander, Sportsman, CFORCE Overland | Argo XRT | TACTIC
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Comparing the CanAm Outlander, Renegade, Sportsman XP 1000, TGB Blade, Hisun Tactic 1000, CFMOTO Overland, and Argo Xplorer XRT. 1000cc ATV Comparison of the biggest ATVs on the market.
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Sportsman XP 1000 Vs CanAM Outlander 1000R:
• Polaris Sportsman XP 1...
CanAm Renegade vs Outlander:
• Can Am Renegade 1000R ...
Thank the lord there's other people out there sick of sxs!!
Lol I fit in the middle . There’s just no denying the insane fun of my X3 DS Turbo . It’s like a really fast trophy truck . Just swallows rough terrain . I thought similar til I got one . I enjoyed a rip on the Sporty 1000 other day and still love that too !
Joe Kearney- I'm not denying there's a place for them. I just had a 2021 Pro Xp Ultimate with shock therapy springs and the capability was just ridiculous. They take almost no skill to drive, which takes all the fun away. You can just floor it and hit 3' moguls while drinking a beer. I find absolutely no fun in that. I sold it with 150miles. Plus (midwest) where I am they are destroying the trails. They just aren't made for that size of a machine going at that speed by dumba$$ that don't know how to drive. Out west in the dunes or Moab sure.
@@1993kramer Yea I grew up riding 3 wheelers into four wheelers since 89-90 and have had a lot of different 4wheelers over the years . I agree with your assessment about the downside to the SxS craze is all the massive lifted ones destroying trails making a lot of holes and areas almost impassible for the average 4wheeler . I only dipped into SxS’s starting with our 2020 Maverick Trail DPS 1000 . It’s 50” width and peppy power made it fantastic in the mountains . Just decided to upgrade is all. I have no plans whatsoever of “ 8” portals on 44s” and all that . I’ve ridden my sportsman xp 1000 in the mountains and I’ll say the comfort level of the sportsman certainly shines in those rough trails for a 4wheeler .
@@1993kramer Arkansas has gotten so over populated with SXS’s it’s like Asian carp over populating our rivers.. Like you said they take almost no skill to operate maybe that’s the attraction and why so many of them are out there. The trail damage they caused is off the chain!! I think what people don’t realize you have a Vehicle that wide and that heavy with a locked rear differential they’re going to do Extreme damage every time they make a turn.. OK now I’ll watch the video. Lol
@@kcatv9556 . . . same problem up here with trail damage by the huge SXS's. It's basically the same or worse than using a Jeep on ATV trails.
I bought a CFMoto 800 this spring and I love it. I have also driven the CFMoto 1000 a lot they are both great. You can't beet the price/value.
Sadly I remember when Arctic Cat was leading in the big bore area and you are so right Polaris lost its way when it comes to value and are just to expensive now. CFMOTO is taking over the market value ATV easily and as others have mentioned I also would love to see them make a couple of sport ATV's and maybe light a fire under the big four from Japan who have been so lazy in the ATV area for so many years.
CFMoto is Garbage.... you get what you pay for
I work at a cfmoto dealer and don't you worry they're coming for everyone
Love your videos! I love thefact that you put emphasis on quads. About three years ago I switched to a side-by-side but always missed my quad. I have since sold it and now you’ll find me on my Yamaha raptor 700 R!
Oh yeah! I remember DUNE YXZ! Nothing will ever beat a Raptor!
@@DirtObseXXion You remembered me! Now I’m blushing.. 😊
@@DUNEATV LOL! Shoot... Now I'm blushing ☺
@@DirtObseXXion LOL!
Great video I have a cf moto outlander. It's quiet , smooth, roomy , comfy , lots of storage lots of fuel capacity It is a long ride cruiser, good climber and plows snow very well with a 6 foot blade . Can am was not an option for me with all the extra noises that the machines make . Polaris forget it , having the 4x4 system disconnect in reverse what a joke and steering stem failures. The power of the cf moto is predictable and just right for two up riding . Front diff lock is a necessity on an ATV and the Overland has it I'm very happy with my cf moto overland and I didn't buy it because the price . Great video , thanks for your time
That Overland is a solid offering in my opinion..Not quite like anything else on the market.. I can see why it would check so many boxes for you.
Once the inventory starts to be obtainable again in our area we will be looking for new quads. Gonna be interesting to see what's changed since we got our last ones, nice video.
Thanks!! Good luck with the search, it's definitely gonna be rough out there for awhile..
Nice straight forward video, quick and to the point. You are right most people don't need a 1000 cc machine, I am plenty happy with my 78 Hp 850 cc 2up Can-Am.
Thanks!
I own three CF Moto's, the 400, 500 camo and 800XC. I have ZERO bitches, moans or complaints and we ride in Western Colorado from desert sands to 11,000ft mountain trails. The 400 stays here on the property, it is the beater work horse used for much more than it was designed for. The 500 and 800 are our trail machines, we have ZERO complaints and we aren't 'easy' on the machines, we usethem as intended and push the limits without a single failure, NONE of the miles put on these machines are easy miles. We are very pleased with the quality, ride (especially on the 800), the handling (my wife is 5' 2" and LOVES the power steering on her 500) and I especially appreciate the price and warranties. Do yourself a favor, if you are in the market for a new machine check out a CFMoto, I looked at and rode every other brand and CFMoto had EVERYTHING I wanted and it was all STANDARD vs no option at all or I had to add them myself to the others.
Dude I remember videos from like last year where you said don't ever buy any of the CF Motos or Chinese brands. Glad to see you opened your eyes
There's no denying the value, especially after Polaris's price increases.. Still not my personal flavor tho but cfmoto is definitely emerging as THE value brand
@@DirtObseXXion I hear you dude, My wife and I have three kids it's impossible to buy machines for everybody but we have three right now CF Motos hopefully four soon. Still can't get the thousand where we live but we have an 800 and a 500 four wheeler and a thousand cc side by side happy with all, bought my first one in spring of 2019
Glad to hear that! A family of ATVers beats the heck of everyone packed into one 4seat SXS!
Fantastic video chad! I was just talking to my best friend a couple days ago about the fact Polaris has went full crazy with their prices ! I have never recommended any secondary brand to anyone due to build quality and parts/service availability, but now at this point the msrp on the cfmoto 1000 makes a huge difference . My gosh 4-5k$ less out the gate ??? I personally hope they steal a few sales and make the big two lower their prices back to reality . 14.5k-16.5k$ for a four wheeler? Lol . That being said I really like can am these days. If money wasn’t an issue I’d gladly trade my 19 sportsman xp premium 1000 on an outlander xt 1000 in a second to go with my can am X3 DS Turbo 64” SxS . I’d like an opportunity to throw a leg over a CF Moto 1000 to get a feel for it’s overall construction R&D and quality of the little things, that in turn will help you decide if the engineers put real effort into the meat and potatoes of the machine . Polaris engineers are hit and miss when they design a machine drunk , or sober.
Thanks Joe!! If you do trade that Sportsman go with the XTP outty! 😉
@@DirtObseXXion oh for sure !
As a guy who grew up on a Polaris and have a current scrambler 500 trying to get back going I'm looking into the cfmotos quite seriously with all the stuff they come with stock almost adds double to the others to get those as an add on
I have to say, i spent a lot of time deciding on the can-am and Polaris XP. The reviews lean toward the cam-am with top speed and aggressive trail riding, but what I don’t see many of are reviews that cover towing, land work, such as food plots and snow plowing. I went with the Polaris although i also have a pioneer 1000 sxs. The Polaris is more of a work horse in my opinion. I am not factoring price.
Awesome and useful info! Thank you! Small note you say hisun has a 300sqft factory in Texas.. probably you mean 300,000 sq ft I'm guessing. Keep up the great vids 😊
Yeah I realized what I said after publishing the vid. Thank you!
Great video and I believe CF Moto is the next big major player in the US market. I bought a CForce 600 Touring a couple weeks back mainly due to lack of availability of the Polaris or Can Am two up models right now.
Looks that way.. We're definitely seeing more of them. Congratulations on the new machine! You were a Brute Force guy if I remember correctly right?
@@DirtObseXXion Good call yes I have a Brute. I waited for them to come out with a 2up and redesign of the Brute....or a 2up King quad....or a 2up Grizzly. Yea ain't happening. The CF Moto has been an interesting purchase for me.
@@rzl07375now you've had it a while, how do you like your CFMOTO? I have the 1000 overland, and really like it.
@@randyharrington2653 Love it, after around 300 miles a lot of vibrations and noises went away maybe do to the machine just breaking in? It still has a good amount of vibrations but other than that no real complaints, I wish it a bad a lil bit more power, which I plan to try and remedy, but all in all for the price I can't complain at all. The build quality is very good. A comparable 570 Touring Polaris is over 10 grand, I'm not paying over 10 grand for four wheelers anymore.
I ordered a 2022 Can Am 1000r Xtp and can't wait to get it
Awesome congratulations! We've got a lot of experience with that machine.. It's great!
Excellent video guys always good comparisons!
Thanks KC!!! 😁
Excellent video as always! Accurate info.
Thank you!!!
The Scrambler 1000S is back this year in a Limited blue trim. Crazy prices though. I hope the other manufacturers take advantage.
I am a 6'1" 430 lbs fat dude that loves to trail ride, mud ride and climb some hills (nothing too extreme for any of those) so I opted for the Sportsman 1000 S, with tax and delivery (during covid) I paid just overt $19,000, I don't regret it. It is the most comfortable ride I've ever had and has had no problems taking me anywhere I've wanted to go. As of right now it is still completely stock, as things start to wear I will upgrade but it's been about a year now and I'm still loving it. My last machine was a 2012 Sportsman 850 and wow what a difference!
Once again great video! I own 2 polaris sportsan 1000. My main reason why its my favorite is i call it a "couch on wheels". It is simply the most comfortable atv made IMO and easier on my body after a long day. I even added Elka stage 3 shocks. But i do agree if you want the most aggresive, fastest, heart pumping 1000cc quad, then Can-Am is the way to go.
I agree with you. I have a Grizzly 550 and I think it’s a ‘couch on wheels’ lol. Super comfortable…but…when I want to hit the trails and have some serious fun I jump on the Outlander 1000. Fast, fun, and sometimes a little scary. Keeps the heart beating. Lol.
Nothing wrong with comfort! I did many 100+ mile days on a Sportsman.. Definitely easy on the body!
Yep! The sportsman is clutched way to soft. It feels lazy . 0-50 is great . Roll on acceleration from 50ish leaves a lot to be desired for 90hp, as well as the fraction of lag in throttle application from their drive by wire throttle system. I’ve yet to see a machine have better throttle response overall than my previous three brute forces .
My 21 touring 850 is fantastic, wife loves it too. Here is my gripe though. Polaris has discontinued damn near every accessory ever made for it. And other models too. So when I want extra storage, passenger hand warmers etc, nothing. But hey, we can drop $1000+ on a ride command screen, ya the thing that's free on your phone and that can be mounted to you bike with ram mounts for under $100. The built in is cool, but I want a lock and ride roto gas can mount, passenger hand warmers, and a rear box that is anything but the fugly double box grandpamo ile one they sell. Powerband, I don't know what others are talking about. It pulls great and goes 132kmh, I've yet to see any Japanese maker go faster than 110.
@@EC_ATV_Outdoors Polaris seems to be getting the big head and a little greedy these days with canceling stuff and raising prices . Yea I thought about that too, I was like ....what!? So about 16.5-17k OTD when I can use my phone and avenza or Maprika ? Wow
TGB Blade/Argo Xplorer is a beast. I love the one Im driving. 83 hp is more than enough to make you require a new pair of shorts if you max out on dirt roads. 80mph is insane.
Nice! The only problem with Argo in the US is that they are pretty hard to find, and I don't think they're selling the 1000 anymore.. They might be, but I've never seen one..
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SO cool getting to see these beauties in action big 👍113 my friends hope you all have a wonderful Christmas coming up 👋😎 🎅 ⛄ ❄
Thanks Chas! Merry Christmas brother!
You hit many nails on their heads with a big hammer in this video! Great break down, once again!!
Thanks brother!
Side by side is the fastest way to get pulled over, get a ticket or empounded. And they're not as fun to ride. Love your channel bud. It's pretty obvious you are one of us that actually hit the trail and ride hard , not just someone making review videos for clicks and ad revenue.
Thanks brother! I'm definitely an actual rider!! I'm also very fortunate to be able test machines for ATVonDemand which gives me access to more stuff than I'd have otherwise..
Why would a sxs be pulled over more than an atv?
I'm now looking at the CFMoto CForce 1000 Overland given all the standard features it has, over the Polaris XP1000 and Can Am XTP models. These days, you're lucky to find a complete Can Am Outlander at the dealer, without missing parts. I don't think Polaris is as bad, but given their surcharges and dealers price gouging the hell out of customers, CFMoto seems like the best alternative. Plus, the CFMoto has a one-year warranty on their ATV vs 6 months from Can Am and Polaris.
Do not buy a c.f. moto
@@dominickcoombs8221 why? No rationale to provide?
@@csmlawnandlandscape7619 hey man i bought a 600 and my uncle bought the 800 we rode it like crazy up in northern Ontario Canada this year. May I tell you this is the best ATV I’ve ever driven over a Polaris and a honda
I have a uforce 1000 sxs and its beast. Haven't been back to the dealer since I purchased it. I paid 15k out the door which is less than the otd for the polaris 1000 atv lol.
@@dominickcoombs8221 let me guess cause it's Chinese and that's all you have. Face it they are gobbling up a major market that the others are ignoring. And Polaris and can ams platforms really haven't changed in decades but yet their prices doubled.
I am a Polaris fan ( I have 4 sportsman's) but I agree with you, the value they used to offer is gone :-( I had the privilege of having a dealer that sold all the main brands ( Polaris, Can Am, Honda, Suzuki, Yamaha, and Kawasaki) so when I bought my 2017 Polaris Sportsman 850 SP I got to look at all my options. Where everything you've said is accurate now as it was 4 years ago. The build quality on the Can Am was better, The Polaris was just more comfortable and ended up being almost $3k cheaper than the Outlander 850 I was looking at. Shit, it was cheaper than the Grizzly 700, Honda rubicon as well!! I couldn't be any happier :-) But now when I look at upgrading to a 1k, it's ridiculous how expensive they have gotten! Polaris is about to lose a crap load of it's market share. If I am going to spend $15K+ on a quad, the Can Am's are the better option. Polaris needs to revamp the 850-1000 line up completely! That 2 up Sportsman 850-1K looks frumpy and dated as hell !!
That's exactly right.. CanAm used to get flack for being too expensive but they offer better value now. Polaris opened the door extremely wide for CFMOTO to be more affordable option and as a result we're definitely seeing more of them on the trails
Love your videos and everything u do when can we see the next video update of the ltr450 am dying to see it
I'll break it out again soon.. Ill be honest, I don't pull it out much.. I want to keep it mint because they're so hard to find!
Fun fact..last night went riding with friends who all had SxS..I have a 2021 canam Outlander 450 max 2 up seat. After me and the little cf moto 500cc 2 person sxs made it through a deep drainage ditch..the honda got stuck behind us. We both hooked up to pull him out. The cfmoto smoked something and had to be brought back..my little canam 450 was still good to go.
I was in the market for a larger bore machine this summer. I felt the need to compliment my kodiak 450 with a larger machine. It was a weird summer to buy. Can ams were non existent in my area. I wanted to look at an 850. But, a good dealer and convenience led me to another Kodiak. A 700 this time. I think the kodiaks are a great value if you’re not set on a 1000.
Yeah I'm a fan of the Grizzly personally, but can't go wrong with Yamaha
I to have a Grizzly and Kodak 700 EPS and is great but I just got it new it in 2018 and my friend got a Sportsman 850 so I had to go and get a new 2018 Sportsman xp 1000 to out do him.
kodiak is garbage
So i bought a 1000 Argo, So far happy with it, lots of power, responds well, finish needs some work. power steering on par with can am, verry comfortable, well clutched, rides surprisingly smooth.
Very nice! I still haven't had a chance to check one out.. That or the TGB that the Argo rebranded.
@@DirtObseXXion it's a good machine, not in can am or polaris league for sure. little over priced, fit and finish needs work like the hisun. but dealer is 10 minutes away from me, with 3 years extended warranty. I think the the cf overland is probably better value in this range but they can't tow what the argo can.
Good video! I agree that the pricing has gone insane! Unless your drag racing or putting on huge tires to get to the other side of big mud holes most people do not need 1000's. In my opinion the 850's are the way to go, and between Polaris and Can-Am I would definitely go with Can-Am! My family and friends that I drive with have had horrible luck with Polaris.
Thanks! You're right, there's a lot of value with the 850s and a Outlander 850 is more powerful than everything I listed except for the Polaris and CanAm 1000s.. We haven't had luck with Polaris either.
Hey Guys, I own both a 2017 Can-am Renegade 1000 xxc and a 2020 Polaris Scrambler 1000 a. Both machines have been extremely reliable. I have over 2800 miles on my Scrambler without any issues. I have road from the Mountains in WV to the fast trails in Durhamtown and have always been a front runner. Some of my buddies complain after a few hours about how much work it takes them to keep when riding their Renegades and Outlanders. Scrambler 1000 a to me is the most complete ATV ever. Thanks for producing the video. I also have watched the shootout videos multiple times.
Same here with polaris reliability. I have a 2019 polaris XP 1000 , not a single issue ! I ride it as aggressively as I did my canam , which alway had something that needed attention!. First ride out the lower rad house fell off , no coolant an hour away from home on a secluded trail! New machine with unfiltered river water in it for the ride home. Canam didn't even flush the fluid , just topped it up! Terrible and expensive service at canam , my local dealer was charging 140.00 per hour as there shop rate here in Canada! In comparison polaris is 90.00 per hour!
My Sportsman xp 1000 is AWESOME wouldn't trade it for a 100 can am . There a guy on the Polaris ATV'S forum with over 8,000 miles on a 2018 Sportsman xp 1000 with no problems.
You make really good videos ! Props
Thanks!
Hey guys love your videos . I have a 2021 Can am Outlander 1000 max limited . Could you help me with tuning and exhaust? Any suggestions. What is the best option.
That Sportsman XP 1000 just needs a clutch kit to make it Insane, I put one in my Sportsman XP 1000 now feels like a manual clutch that you just dumped clutch when I hit the gas. I love the way it works now.
That's awesome! We still got that 18 xp1000 getting built, hopefully be done soon! I'm excited to see the difference
@@DirtObseXXion only one more thing I wish do clutch set up is lower the engagement speed 2100 is too high in my way of thinking.
@@crazyflyboy30 I agree.. I understand why it's the way it is, but I like that punch
You know you can reclutch the cfmotos too right.
@@MrBULLRIDER13 it's a must.
I love my kawasaki brute 750 best four wheeler I've ever rode and keeps up with some 1000s and most 850s
I’ll be the first to say it. If CF Moto comes out with a 450-700 cc sport quad for $2699…I’m all over it!
I'd happily see how yours did...
They won't be tht cheap they got dinli
Only time my 850cc XT comes in handy when I have my wife, outboard motor, beer, water, food going to the camp!
Veddy veddy intalestink! Nicely done bud!
Thanks Q!!!
Polaris lost me when I was shopping for a decent 2up ATV. Sportsman 570EPS Touring was over 10k... wow. I got my CFMoto CForce 600 Touring for $8.5k OTD new with 5 years of warranty.
Hearing that same story a lot.. When the margins were close it was hard to justify the Chinese stuff, now the margins aren't close at all..
@@DirtObseXXion It also helps a lot that their dealer network is growing and they are really trying to give the consumers what they want. Feels like Polaris stopped caring about the normal riders. That 570EPS Touring was going to be $12k out the door after fees and taxes, thats insane
@@paulwuzhere I bought a 600 Touring as well and agree. How are you liking it so far?
Well I hope to hear they seem to last. They all need a tone of maintenance I’m finding out..
I know Polaris prices have gone crazy, my dealer just price me a new Sportsman XP 1000 at $16 ,000 out the door. Even a can am is about $2,000 less for the same spec. model and I can even get the (holy grail ) of ATV'S the can am XMR 1000 for less than a regular Sportsman XP 1000. I'm sorry but Polaris has lost their mind.
If cfmoto puts their new 90hp 950ho motor in a sport 4x4 or the overland and made a deal with a good shock company they'd be top dog hands down. Love can am and like polaris but I'm kinda rooting for cf as an underdog to make it big
no it wouldnt. remember theres a reason why they're so cheap.
@@jonhathaway2537 well if they keep it a standalone race model like the scrambler or the renegade I wouldn't see an issue
@@jonhathaway2537 in materials a can am 1000 prolly costs can am 9000 to build
Cf moto would definitely not hold exceed the outlander, no way
Will be hard pressed to beat a rotax engine my opinion.
I currently own xp 850 and sportsman 570, a couple months ago I sold 2016 XP 1000, didn't see different between 850 and 1000, just price. We're the group of more than 20 family's with kids and many different atv's, the 70% are Polaris sportsman 500, 570, 850, sometimes we are comes together over 35 atv's, and what I want to say, if you properly used Polaris ,then you can't kill it, of course it has issues with u joints on front differential shaft, but it's not a big deal .
I think that's true to an extent.. The old 500s were really good, but the 1000s should hold up to more abuse than a 500 and I don't believe they do. If you ride a Polaris 1000 like a 500 class machine, then what's the point of the upgrade? The only point I'd like to make is that CanAm 1000 machines hold up to 1000cc abuse a little better by comparison. But I'm really glad to hear about a whole family of ATV riders regardless of the brand!!!! Love the feedback! Thanks for the comment!
I have a cforce 800, and it’s been solid. No problems with it.
How long have you had it? What's the mileage?
@@DirtObseXXion a little over a year about 600 miles
I like canam 570 max with 2 seats. Have 2 of them and the gas tank fuel pumps fail at 3500 miles but I still like them
Very well done video my friend , top shelf 👍
Thanks!!
i know a argo dealer near me that sells the explorer and xrt. i was not a fan of them but still i found a place that sell them
Love the video just hate how Polaris was brought up constantly while it was can ams turn to shine
My bad..
I haven’t commented or made a video in awhile, I’ve been on hiatus. I couldn’t get the time off I wanted to ride my Sportsman and make videos so I changed jobs, got my CDL and learned how to drive a trash truck. It seams they’re trying to appeal people that are new to the market with the 570 and all the options and bolt on accessories. There are a lot of new riders out there but even the price point of the 570 seems to be high with the ride command edition being $500 less than what I paid for my 1000 premium edition back in 2019. Inflation and demand might have something to do with the increased prices. With that being said, I’m glad that I bought my Sportsman when I did. I could sell it pretty much for the same price that I purchased it for because the ATV market out here in Colorado is crazy right now.
Congratulations on the new job! You're right, the market is friggen crazy.. if you sold that Sportsman what would you get?
I would be torn between a Yamaha Grizzly 700 and a Sportsman 1000 S. Two completely different machines. A lot of the trails I ride, have been torn up by SxSs and Jeeps but every so often I see a 48 inch wide bridge or a river crossing that leads down cool little random trails that a Sportsman S couldn’t fit down. So I’ll just have to keep my current Sportsman. But I would definitely choose a Yamaha Grizzly 700 over a Sportsman 570 if I went that route.
I was looking at buying a new Polaris. But once I seen the prices yeah that’s a no. Polaris is good but not as good as can am. And for the price can am is the way to go hands down. But I’m buying for bang for the buck and I have to say that cf moto is the way I’m leaning. With diff lock and bead lock wheels let alone the wench and boxes that come on the 1000. I think I may take my chances and give them a shot. For the price alone I’m 6 grand cheaper then a Polaris. And it’s 2 up so me and the wife can ride. :).
Somehow after watching all this and considering everything, I'm decided on both the overland and the outlander equally. Same dealer for both, the cf has more features, longer warranty and lower price but the can am has more power, likely resale, and we'll, isn't Chinese owned, but at a notable jump in cost both initially and in maintenance prices and schedules.
I was in the market for a new atv this summer. After looking around and riding a friends cfmoto I decided to buy a cfmoto. The prices are affordable and you get a lot for your money. I’ve was skeptical about the brand but after having a couple of rides on it, I’m confident in the brand and can say I would buy another no questions. Parts availability I think is about the only downside to cfmoto.
Glad to hear it brother, thanks for the input!
Try owning a scrambler especially an older one.
Why would he want something with no power steering. It's literally one of the reasons most are buying cfmoto over other brands
Hi I'm trying to source about 12 atvs wholesale preferably the older models of the Honda Recon would you guys know where I can find a good dealer online?
I bought a 2023 argo xplorer xrt le 1000 and picking it up tomorrow from the dealer nearby. I chose it based on price. With a promotional price of $4000 off and came just shy of $15k after tax. I have always had Hondas and still have my bulletproof 2001 foreman 450s. The argo has almost no storage and being a newer atv I can't find a box for the back or the front which is an issue. We'll see how it is tomorrow I suppose. Great video btw
$15k CDN
Awesome, I still haven't seen one. I hope you like it! Aftermarket support would definitely be a challenge and even though it's a rebranded TGB I don't think they sell a TGB in Canada either, so it's certainly going to be hard to find stuff for..
Ha 15k isn't 4k off wtf u smokin. They can 11k
In cana LolThere few k off how it
They got diff. In Canada. Nordik
I want a Yamaha Grizzly 1000 modeled after the Rmax. And it has to be 2021 XTR Black and Green.
THE CF Motor Need a grampy windshield options. I couldn't find one and Here in Canada in the winter. A taller windshield option, heated hand grips are a must for driver and passenger. Hell snowmobiles came standard with heated grips
Great video guys 💯💯💯
Thanks AJ
In May 2023 I purchased an Argo 2023 1000 XRT LE. In September 2023 I took the ATV in for service due to a power steering electrical problem. The diagnosis was a low voltage problem. While moose hunting and approx 30 km since being serviced the atv burnt to the ground. Fortunately I was not burnt and there was no forest fire. Currently I am trying to get warranty for replacement from argo’s head office in Minnesota. So far the solution offered is let your insurance company know and collect from them. A solution does not look promising at this time. My suggestion is buyer beware. Gary
Wow! I'm sorry to hear that.. Thanks for sharing though, I'll keep that in mind when people ask about Argo
Would yall go with an outlander xt1000 or xtp850 as they are the same price. And for what reason would you go one over the other?
I'd go 850 XT-P all day! Every. Single. Time. The power is still absolutely insane and you get far superior suspension.. In my opinion, good suspension is much more useful than Power for riding faster on trails.. You're going to appreciate the shocks much more than the slight advantage in the top end which is only useful in a field or on a road.
Y'all should review the 2023 Loncin xwolf 1000. It's supposed to have 99 horsepower.
Have you guys made a video about the Polaris Sportsman XP 1000 S?
No. we had a Scrambler S test unit for awhile but never had the Sportsman S.
One niche rationale for 1000 cc quads was not mentioned....TRACKS I have tracks for both my Can Am (Camoplast) and my Polaris (Mattracks). Tracks require a LOT of torque and power. Also, unless you remain mindful, using tracks aggressively is a sure way to promptly burn up CVT belts.
That's a good point.. We don't think about tracks in KY..
@@DirtObseXXion Understood. While tracks work on soft ground, I would not advise them. The bearings and drive + idler wheels would wear quickly and could also get jammed in thick mud. They work pretty well in snow. They intrinsically provide a 40% gear reduction, and it needs it. Tracks have a lot of rolling friction. And they are heavy. The Camoplast replaces a ~35 pound wheel/tire with a 60 lb track. It's worse with the Mattracks. They have articulating idler wheels, a taller and stronger frame, and a metal primary sprocket. The added features mean addd weight. They weigh 110 lbs EACH.
Great video. I feel the same way.
Can-Am Outlanders have massive problems with rear end aluminum support under the storage box breaking. The next is the rubber engine mount failure and timing chain tensioner seal failure. All very annoying. Oh the l.c.d cluster fails at x miles.
Also, coming from a guy who’s still rocking a rancher 350 and another riding buddy is rocking a new sportsman 450 there’s nothing the sportsman does that impresses me
Nice video thanks.
Great review. I have owned a Polaris, won't buy another. My next atv will be a CF Moto CForce 600.
Nice! I'd get another Grizzly personally, but I'm sticking with sport ATVs for the time being.. I do love testing 4x4s tho!
@@DirtObseXXion Grizzly's are grossly overpriced up here in Canada - not paying $14,000 for a Grizzly.
@@WBOS72 No I wouldn't either... I paid 7,700 for a new one back in 2016
@@WBOS72 everything is grossly overpriced in Canada. Outty 1000XTP is $20K. Like really…WTF. Bought myself a CF 800XC, it’s plenty awesome no issues to speak of and build quality is top notch.
With this class being all about the engine and power it can only be something with a rotax engine in the Frame.
So you said that the cfmoto and Argo and atvs like those are detuned but can they be tuned to unlock their full potential
Sure, to an extent.. But there isn't much of an aftermarket for those ATVs so it's gonna be hard to find intakes, pipes, programmers, not to mention motor stuff if you wanted to go that far... All atv motors are pretty low revving and low power for their size.. The point I was trying to make was, "don't think that just because it's got a 1000 sticker that it has the most power"..
Thanks love your videos and that you guy put so much time not only making the video but after in the comments
@@bamgaming8514 No problem brother! Thank you for the support!
I wonder if Polaris switched their clutch on the 850 and 1000's if it would be as quick as a Can-Am because the horsepower is the same?
I'm sure it would be.. We'll find out soon on a xp1000 build for ATVONDEMAND
@@DirtObseXXion I’ve come to learn to just not bet against Rotax and their engine fairy dust their using lol
Would you be able to do a video on the 500-600cc class atvs? There are so many, but it seems like a “forgotten” size. Seems like there’s been a lot of stagnation in recent years.
I remember when I got my new 1999 Grizzly 600 it was like a Giant Munster and now 600 is only 1 notch above entry level .
Yup! My dad started out on a warrior 350 and upgraded to the grizzly 660 in 2002. Now, the entry level can-am 570, with similar options to what is available by CFMoto, is a full $2700 more expensive than CFMoto. $9,499 vs $6,799.
I’m just glad the demand for sxs keeps the price as low as it is
Great info, thanks for sharing. When are you bringing back the red 1000 sportsman?
Very soon! But it will debut on ATVONDEMAND
Great info here, disappointed in Polaris and their pricing
Arm and a leg, and another arm...
A 300sq ft plant in Texas. So you’re saying they are built in a one car garage?
i can see Cfmoto leading sales in north america in the future, they already doing that in europe
I could see that happening.. We're big adventure motorcycle fans too and I'm starting to see CFMOTO motorcycles for sale in KY..
@@DirtObseXXion I really don't think you'll ever see them "leading" sales. There's still way too much 'america, fuck ya' way of thinking for that too happen, and I don't see that shifting in our lifetimes lol and I'm from Canada, and it's up here too, so I can only imagine the attitude down in the states within the stereotypical type of people that enjoy powersports.i could see them maybe one day come in at #3 or 4
I get a kick out of how much effort you put into knocking Polaris. Me and buddies have started clocking how much time in recent videos.
Let me know when I clock in about $10k worth of effort.. That's about what I spent on my last... Very last... Polaris paperweight
@@DirtObseXXion I get it, we've all had that bad experience. There is a fine, though obvious, line between venting and obsessing.
@@fasteddie737 well you are talking to Dirt ObseXXion... Obsessing is literally in the name.. I think their quality is generally poor and a lot of these videos pull in viewers who are new to ATVs, so I want to make sure to share our experiences with them. There's plenty of material out there, including a lot of projects I've personally been involved in that shows their (Polaris ATVs) capabilities. So on this channel, I'm sticking to personal experience and personal opinion..
@@DirtObseXXion Hah, You're a good sport for engaging. One buddy bet me you wouldn't respond again to this Polaris thing. I said he has to respond, any guy who names himself Obsession cannot resist. Mostly just givin' you a hard time. I like your videos and continue to watch. Not brand loyal (though I did have an '18 1000 XP that was perfect for me, no repairs in my ownership, but I'm easy on stuff). I buy older stuff, any brand (KTM, Arctic Cat, the J4) and fix up, they all need work sometime. You're a smart guy, so remember, life's short, have more fun, make people laugh, let the other sh*t go.
@@fasteddie737 I appreciate the engagement and feedback, that's why I respond.. Now, what you said will go one of two ways; 1. I take your advice or 2. I embrace what you're saying with my own counter 😁.. Either way it goes, I appreciate you pointing it out, and you're probably right, I've driven the point home hard enough by now..
I’ll be honest can ams are a confusing brand because I have an 850 xmr and I babied it and it kept breaking little things but after I started beating the shit out of it nothing breaks so remember kids beat the hell out of the can am
I've been looking at atv video's for the past few days and come to the conclusion that for my needs, the cfmoto is the best choice. Lots of standard features, best price and I think the best looking. I don't need the most powerful because I won't be racing and I sure as hell don't need to spend a lot of extra money just because of a name. I saw a video earlier today at some mud fest and the can-am didn't fair so well and it was beaten by a cfmoto. So if you think the can-am or polaris is worth the extra $5k- $6k more, by all means, go spend you hard earned dollars on it. For me, I'll spend that extra money on upgrades and still have money left over.
I'd personally recommend something Japanese because they're proven to be reliable long term.. But I understand the features and price argument.. I did a cfmoto video asking for feedback from owners.. I'd say the feedback was mostly positive from new owners but some of the folks who have had them for awhile have encountered issues.. I'd say the dealership is important, and I'd probably spring for a warranty if I was going for a moto.. Just in case. I hope you find something you like! ATVs are friggen awesome!
@@DirtObseXXion I get what you're saying but, they are still more expensive and don't come with the options the cfmoto has as standard equipment. But as with everything, there will always be some bad reviews and people bad mouthing a company.
It's weird how much the price has changed in the last year... according to CFMoto's site they are $18,000.
No opinion on the highlifter?
I think Polaris's rear IRS would be a bit more drag in the the mud than CanAms trailing arm design but I think I mentioned that in the vid.. Other than that I think the Outlaws Polaris uses are the superior tires.. Im not a mud guy tho so I'd digress to the experience I've had with both which would make me lean towards the CanAm
Just bought a uforce 1000 over a ranger for the very reason of price and the polaris quality going to shit over the years
4:16 "Hisun has a 300 square foot plant in texas??" I HOPE this was said in error:, as my living room is bigger than 300 square feet (e.g. 10 x 30, or 15 x 20)
🤦♂️error
@@DirtObseXXion I've heard of working in tight spaces, but this is ridiculous! :)
I'm on a waiting list for a Can-Am Outlander Max 850 XT. Heck, I think 850cc's are way over the top and I really don't see myself using all the machine's capability. But that's precisely why I ordered it. I don't think I'll ever be wanting for power, and the tandem long wheelbase seating should provide for a nice cush ride. So 1000cc's? I'll pass.
Lol if they told you you could get the 1k cc for the same price of a 850 you would be buying a 1k .. yall just be on here saying anything justifying everything 😂😂
@@BigDeejaypro I believe the 1000cc model has a different gearbox and F&R differentials with different gearing and noiser. I'd take a pass even if the same price.
Can Am all the way for me CF number 2!
My choise, 1k cypress 6x6. Canam. Round the world, the hard way, kit💯💯💯🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧
Awesome!
We had a dealer here start carrying CF Moto a few years ago and they sold well for a while, until we caught on they were junk. Trust me when I say they need that big warranty they offer
Appreciate the feedback!
Can you be more specific on junk. I would like to see a more descriptions if they are junk but cant find much to discount them. please elaborate.
@@nettodd The top complaints I'm seeing in the CFMOTO vid I did is on engine failure and electrical issues.. One mechanic pointed out the poor metallurgy that is an issue for longevity.. They seem to be pretty good short term machines because the owners who were happy with them have 2yr old or less machines with less than 2,000 miles..
@@DirtObseXXion I could see if that was an issue a couple years ago and these issues of bad motors are coming to light now, but do newer or fresher machines still plague with same issues?
@@nettodd I wouldn't call it a plague.. More of a gamble. I think they've improved motor-wise, my primary concern would be metallurgy.. Engine Mounts, shock mounts, weld quality and that kind of thing. Of course we won't truly know if there has been improvements with recent models until they get some serious time and miles on them consistently without failure. Japanese machines have earned a reputation for quality after 40-50 years of putting out quality machines. CFMOTOs were pretty terrible as recently as 17-18 year models from what I've seen. That's why a lot of guys who have been around the sport for a long time won't touch them. We're only 3-4 years past the point where guys were reporting catastrophic failures way too often. They do offer enticing value for some folks though, so I hope for their sake they have improved.. I personally am not willing to bet 10k that they have..
great video, but honestly the price of these atv's have just gone bonkers,.for example up here in Canada I just looked up the local Polaris, can am and cfmoto dealers and for a base 850 Polaris touring $15800, and that folks is bare bones! can am max xt 850 $15700, cfmoto 1000 overland $16300. realistically the cfmoto is only 850 power class shouldn't even be considered in the 1000 class. anyway my point here is Polaris have lost their way! more expensive than a can am that has a winch, bumpers hand guards ect. and for $500 more look what the cfmoto offers!!! completely loaded. so much for Polaris being the budget option that they had build there reputation on.. best bang for the buck is looking like cfmoto. just my opinion!!!!
Absolutely bonkers, I agree! Thanks for the comment!
One of my friends has the Hisun tactic 550 and it has issues and he doesn’t have 200 miles on it
Great to know dude, thank you!
Nordik 1000 plz. Canada
WHAT ABOUT THE CAN AM OUTLANDER 6X6 1000 POSSIBLY THE BEST ATV EVER MADE
Wow 😳
😯
love my tgb blade 1000 my hisun sits unused. buy the tgb blade.
캔암이 내 최애 베스트, 한국에선 리미티드 모델 가격이 2만1천 달러나 간다..
There is much to like about the CFMoto. What I can't get my head around is that it is a Chinese product made in China. I'd much prefer to buy products from countries that are not oppressive dictatorships. Granted when companies price themselves out of the market or continue to ignore mechanical issues the buying public are put in a tough spot. If and when CFMoto owns the ATV market those other manufacturers will only have themselves to blame. Consumers will not for long buy overpriced unreliable products.
I definitely agree with that! We saw the automotive industry do the same exact thing
Then don't buy anything Canadian. They definitely have a oppressive dictatorship!
Where do you think the parts for your current machines come from are you new
I bought a new kawasaki 750 in 2010 for 6k and I thought that was stupid money to pay for an atv.
Given the price…and equipment, I went with the CFMOTO… If I had the money, yeah…I’d go with Can Am. But, for 5 thousand more? Nah ….way to proud.
Can-Am Renegade is an amazing four-wheeler but the problem is it lacks reliability and it's got a boring unreliable automatic CVT transmission I wish Honda would make a 1000cc Renegade competitor with locking front differential and manual 5-speed foot shift or manual 5-speed DCT. I hate a CVT automatic rubber band they're boring
I agree the rubber band machines get dull, but I don't like Hondas DCT either.. We're all on Raptors now..
GO SPORT QUADS! let's bring em back, or the other option is buy a brute force 750, u won't get bored of that snappy ass perfectly clutched vtwin power. Superior throttle response vs any other machine.
10:21 lovly what the guy say´s 🤟🥰
Just being honest! Don't take my word for it, look at the 4x4 class in a GNCC race.. 100% CanAm
I wish I could like this video 10 times, in my Fly racing underwear. -There's probably more Chinese parts on the Polaris, than the CFMoto. -Polaris knows there's SERIOUS problems with their ATV and have fixed none of them. Yet continually jack up their price. They're the Harley Davidson of ATV's. -Ever since Can Am went to the same suspension travel and extra width, I'm not sure the Polaris is still more comfortable. People like the low seat, but I find the higher seat is easier to grip with my legs. -I humbly request you race an 850 Renegade versus a 1k Polaris. That video would be really interesting lol
Glad you liked it brother! I like the narrow midsection of the Polaris but I'm with you on the flaws..
Can am outlander Max 1000XTP the best
very good 👍
Thank you!
Wait till honda makes a 2up