ICONIC CORPSE: The Exploitation of Julia Pastrana
2017 ж. 21 Жел.
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For our final Iconic Corpse of the year, the tragic tale, and (somewhat) happy ending for the body of performer Julia Pastrana.
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Julia was so talented. Spoke 3 languages, sang, and danced. DAMN
fungirl1234321 Beyonce could never
Spoke 4 languages, actually!!!
4 including her native languages which is even more impressive
XDranzer000 it's remarkable for our day and age. Most people didn't have the opportunity to learn like her.
4 actually her native language
Its really sad and sickening that fact that to this day Julia is being called the werewolf woman, or the "ugliest woman that has ever existed", by youtubers that "cover" her history, is nice to see for a change a respectful and understanding perspective of her story ❤
Right?! And she was a beautiful woman.
Chicken Fajita93 she was. all of those drawings of her were exaggerated to make her look not human
@@LM-ix7pk Exactly!! I've videos of people with Julia's condition and they look like normal humans (with the exception of the amount of hair on their body). The drawings made her face look like an ape which I highly doubt was the case.
I completely agree- it was something she couldn’t control and she was exploited for it😢
@@meIatonin Unfortunately she didn't just suffer from hypertrichosis, but also had other diseases and conditioned that deformed her face - prominent brow, large ears & nose, protruding mouth - which is what caused her "gorrila-like" appearance more than just having excessive body & facial hair. Some of the drawings from her time further exaggerated these traits but if you look at some of the photos of her, others were pretty close.
I like how you mention her as survivor, woman, and mother. I can't hold back my tears :" she deserves to be called that way
Why does she deserve it
@@ElizzaYAYYYY Why *wouldn't* she deserve to be called a survivor, woman and mother?
@@helenanilsson5666 oh my I did a spelling mistake I am so sorry
@@helenanilsson5666 I ment to put why does she not deserve befor i though it said she dose not deserve to be called that
Yes thank you
I just wanna see Julia's dress's and journals. I wanna see how she viewed the world. They really did her wrong for some fecking hair problem and her poor baby didn't deserve that neither.
Do you know if she kept journals, or if any of them survived to this day if she did? I'd like to read them too, if they exist!
@@sophiatalksmusic3588 I'm sure she probably had a few. But I'm assuming they were kept by the people who done her wrong.
This is an awful question, but why didn't she pluck? I know she shouldn't have had to, it was society's problem, but I wonder why she didn't remove some of it? I apologize that this comment isn't great: it's meant with respect.
@@noodlepoodlegirl ...... Do you realize how long that would take? Days. She was covered in hair.
@@noodlepoodlegirl it's like plucking a head full of hair one by one - not only would it take a very long time, it'd likely hurt a lot because yes she was covered in hair, all over her body.
Poor Julia... "my husband loves me for me" That's so sad because he really didn't
He only understood not wanting to have to work for a living.....
The worst!!!!
This is going to sound, absolutely horrible, but in a way he did......... He loved that she made him money, and he made him money for being herself, so in messed up way he loved her for her.
@Rusty Kinks A love doesn't have to be kind. Our society has taught us this time and time again. He loved her not as a wife, or a friend, but as an object. His love for her as this object he saw her as was brought on by the way she was. He loved this "object" for being itself, because it made him money of which he loved more. So yes, he loved the benefits, but as I see it, he could've easily found another woman, as he did, with the same condition to exploit, once he did, he could've given her up, but he didn't, because he loved the thought of her bringing in the money.
does anyone really love anyone for "who they are"? i certainly haven't seen it in my entire life
His own son on display? Damn.
But who needs a child to snuggle up to when you have bags of money.
The worst
@@InvaderTak176 uhm...me? I married rich. I can assure you id rather snuggle my 2 year old boy lol. Hes funny af and tells jokes in his weird language. Moneys nice too But id rather have my bby
@@litbopeep5726 hun it was a joke not a way of life, youre reading to into it
Lit BoPeep W T F
This is one of the most painful histories of a person I ever learned about. She was a highly intelligent woman, and just wanted to be loved. Instead, she was exploited her entire life. When PT Barnum learned that her husband had had her stuffed and mounted, along with their child who died in childbirth, PT Barnum wrote, "when I saw that, I knew who the real monster was". People suck. I hope the dolphins are better after we're gone.
If PT Barnum thinks you're an exploitative monster, you've really fucked up
The dolphins will do just fine long beyond humans. They probably talk sh!t about us.
@@alexhowlett3100 Agreed.
@@alexhowlett3100 Took the words right out of my mouth.
WOW if BARNUM of all people said it was sick and twisted, then you know it was sick and twisted.
The child never got to be buried though. It's so sad.
KittyFAN13 i keep thinking about him 😭 his mother FINALLY got the respectful burial she deserved, but his remains were thrown in a field & left for animals to destroy. I wish someone had gone out to look for SOMETHING left of the little one, at least to keep with his mother’s body until she was buried.
he's dead! it dont mather anymore
@@ronswanson9324 OH !! You have just been cursed. You will soon start to see them. everywhere you will look,one will be standing. e satanis Spiritus Sancti
@@ronswanson9324 You have no right to tell Martin to shut up. Be kind to strangers on the internet, you're better than that.
Martin Rodrigue what language are you speaking
People born with Generalized Hypertrichosis are know to have smooth velvety voices. It's a result of the hormone imbalance! So Julia probably sounded A-MA-zing
Very interesting! It would be neat if there were a recording of her singing. I'd like to hear!
@@U2kitteh HELL YEAH!
Well. How's that for a truly fascinating piece of information? That is really interesting, and nice to know. I love learning about obscure pieces of history. Thank you so much for sharing that insight!!
A small consolation I'm sure
She probably did sound amazing! And it's tragic because the people back then probably didn't give a shit about her singing and more about the way she looked 😭. Even doubling tragic what happened to her baby boy and not being buried with her, instead he was tossed in a field and eaten by critters 😖.
Julia's grave at 9:16 translates to "Sinaloan artist recognized for her international career. Repatriated from Oslo, Norway to Sinaloa, Mexico. Buried on February 12, 2013. Julia Pastrana, rest in peace. Government of the State of Sinaloa H. City Hall of Sinaloa"
Thanks for translating it!
I love that they recognize her as an artist.
Rohano 2.0 maybe you could go check out her grave and pay respects
Thanks for the translation. I was really hoping they would have added a tribute to her baby son too 💔
@@amyp6736 As Caitlin said in the video, the body of her son was sadly destroyed, so it wasn't buried with her :(
He taxidermied his wife and son, and people threw the baby's corpse into a field?! I can't even fathom how that was okay at all, despite it being the 1800's!
No, the yeeting of the baby was around nazi times. So even worse
@@MinatheRaichu didn’t she say it was in the 1970s, so after that?
@@koolkitty108 tru. That point goes to you
The body field thing happened around 1980.
When people dehumanize someone... Much like this case, they don't treat them with the respect of fellow human.
When you say he finally dies in an asylum and the little sign says “the best” I CANT BREATHE🤣
I was living for those signs throughout this video, I want to walk through life with a number of little Victorian calling cards with various statements that I can just flash at people instead of wasting my breath trying to explain sane, rational thought
@@flederfox "science is real, Darwin says so" could be one.
Lol yess
I had to watch it again. I missed it the first time. LOL!!! 😂😂😂 He deserved everything that came to him. POS! Knowing that she loved him & thought he loved her fills me with such sorrow... & ANGER. Can't forget anger. 💢😡💢
I didn’t even catch that until I read your comment! So perfect
God. I hope Lent's death was miserable.
This is when a crazy asylum with a mad scientist comes in handy.
While this is not an “authoritative” site, it mentions that he likely died of syphilis. It most likely wasn’t pleasant. circusnospin.blogspot.com/2011/11/strange-tale-of-julia-pastrana.html?m=1
if it happened in an asylum, it probably was. insanity ANd human rights violations!
@@IJustWantToUseMyName thank you
Well at that point in time asylums where one of the worse world so im sure he suffered
This poor lady, her body was moved around and used like crazy! I'm glad she was finally laid to rest.
Cow_woC Makes me hope haunting is real snd she's been haunting the HELL out of a bunch folks.
I got misty-eyed when they gave her a proper burial and people sent flowers. I can't imagine being treated like a non-human, freak of nature all your life.
But the part that made her, "her" left the day she died. So really it's really not poor her. As she was not there anymore. But it was good they properly honored her.
I think it’s funny people say she “was laid to rest...” she’s dead you know, her body has no feelings and is not aware of what’s going on.
It's a respect thing.
Lent went crazy and died in an asylum. Well, I do love a happy ending.
I looove karma!
We defintely got the good ending here
I'm still sad for the baby. I hope they held vigil for him too.
sad! are you realy? of course they held a vigil ,so freakin important OMG ! he's also got a charity fund to his name, and all profits goes to the Jane Goodall research for the sign speaking gorrilas foundation.
@@leftitbythecurb8350 damn can't humans have emotions and empathy!?
@@leftitbythecurb8350 you are KZhead karen
@@SanghamitraGautam Nah even a Karen has more empathy than that. We need a whole new class of subhuman for this.
@@iwuvsmybeanie there is, it's called a piece of shit
Just imagine being a doctor back then! When someone with a cold visits you for help "Oh no, you have ghosts in your blood from kissing a witch. Here, do some drugs and drink coke. You'll be fine in a week."
Sounds like Western medicine of today in my opinion. Here get the Rx filled, drink sugar filled juice and be lazy for a week.
Frank Carr I'm a Criminal/Clinical Psychiatrist I'm well aware of the advancements of Western medicine. What I wrote above is called 'sarcasm', try it sometime. I'll write your bad mood off to you having a hangover since last night was New Year's Eve Mr. Smarty Pants.
Weedus The vibrator was used by doctors for treating woman who were diagnosed with hysteria. It was uncanny how many doctors were needed to handle the influx of this illness once the women began treatment. Some poor women's hysteria cases were so sever that they were prescribed treatment 5 times a week. Some doctors even worked on weekends. When the treatment devices reduced in size and became portable, doctors could make house calls.
Ironic bc coke used to have actual cocaine in it I heard
@@veronicasuestarlite4080 lol bet you're one of those "muh big pharma is lying to you by giving your vaccines and controlling your mind with fluoride" type of freaks
Bunch of apologists in this comment section. "She was lucky to have a man treat her that way, especially considering what it was like for other women of her time." Yeah, talk about a gilded cage.
homeiswonderland right? Comments like this make me sick.
Some people apparently don't understand what "manipulation" is
So right! Considering what it’s like for women such as yourself in this time; you would be lucky to have a man abuse and take advantage of you.
idiot
He may have been the worse but Ringling Brothers would have kept her in a cage with the rest of the animals without a doubt. Pick your poison. You cannot base then on today's standards Snowflakes.
It would have been so easy for you to treat this story - Julia's story - as a curiosity much like she was made out to be by the people who exploited her. I'm glad you chose not to, and instead remained respectful and even seemed truly upset by how she was treated. I had never heard of her or you before today, and I don't normally watch videos related to death (I'm easily scared). But I'm glad I learnt of her story, and glad that I learnt it from someone who treated it with the compassion that she deserved to have while she lived. Thank you.
It's a shame there are no recordings of her singing, I'd love to hear her. What happened to this woman is just horrible. As far as "humans" go, we mostly suck.
For the people calling her an "ape woman" that is so disrespectful.
100% with you she had a medical condition that doesn’t make her any less human
We are all related to the apes, but it was more obvious, in her case.
Like the “elephant” man, who suffered neurofibromatosis type 1. He died in his sleep from a broken neck. His head was so heavy he couldn’t lay down because he’d die, he got fed up of sleeping sat up he decided to give sleeping laying down a try. He fell asleep and his neck snapped.
and racist
@@consentclub8431 eugenics is really horrible
HER FEET ARE SO TINY, im so sorry for this woman. She didnt deserve this.
Probably foot binding... Small feet were all the rage back then
@@biscuitgidoni2804 Do you have any evidence for foot binding in the 1850s and 1860s? I would be fascinated to know more.
@@jokiskywalker5417 oh yeah.. I have a collection of amputated feet from the 1800s
@@biscuitgidoni2804 So. You had no idea what you were talking about and just made something up. Good to know!
@@jokiskywalker5417 kzhead.info/sun/dJx_gKV5hpOGl4U/bejne.html
Her mother: hid her from the world. Her husband: displayed her for the world.
Both: sucked
@@Acidfrog475 I don't know. When you have a disability that no one understands properly, wouldn't it be better to hide?
@@caffeinatedkatie4696 I definitely get that. My modern sensibilities are shining through. Doesn't mean what she did was humane, though.
@@Acidfrog475 yeah just sucks that she lived in a time that didn't understand her disability
So Theodore Lent not only had his wife preserved and put on display but his own son... Yep he is definitely the worst
AND THEN found another woman like his ex wife, married her, renamed her, and forced her to perform near the corpse of his ex wife and infant son. #theadorlentistheworst
I just saw a photo of Julia and her adorable baby. It made my heart ache. He looks like any precious newborn baby. They deserved so much better. I'm so glad they were finally laid to rest.
they weren't. just her
She got laid?? Thats gonna give me nightmares
E Estrada grow up.
The baby was thrown into a field and left to be eaten..So Julie was the only one buried..
@@Borghetto.Inc04 No, she did not get laid. They mean laid to rest which basically means she was buried in a grave.
I remember when they finally brought her back here, a lot of people still don't know who she is but others were waiting for her return and burial. She had a religious service and all 💖 finally a burial with dignity.
Next time I go to Mexico, I’d love to plan to visit her burial place, lay flowers, and pay my respects. I am glad she was finally granted the dignity in death that she was never afforded in life.
I'm glad she finally got to go home. It's so sad her son wasn't able to be buried with her. Her husband is roasting in a special kind of hell, as ugly on the outside now as he was on the inside, while Julia and her son are so beautiful and happy, as they dance together in the hereafter.
it's absolutely horrifying and heartbreaking the way she was treated in life and in death. i'm glad her body was finally interred with the dignity she deserves.
It’s so sad 🥺
She should have been burried with her son 😟
For real
Her nonexistent son. As in, he didn’t exist anymore.
That poor human being. I can't imagine how it must feel to be exploited as a living exhibit for a lifetime.
Lilli Jäger Also part of a deathtime.
Well you wouldn't feel anything... none the less, she should've been put to rest instead of this disgusting display of how humans are
I'm glad she was brought back to Mexico. It's to bad that her baby was not laid to rest with her.
Cassie Schroeder-Rhodes do you know what happened to the baby’s body? I’ve watched the full video but I might have missed it.
Rachel some horrible people threw his body in a field..and rodents ate it.😢
Cassie Schroeder-Rhodes That is sick....holy fuck...
Back in 2017 there was an immersive play about Julia Pastrana set in the dark at the Melbourne Fringe Festival that I went to see (read: listen and touch and smell and taste) which is where I learnt her story. They treated her memory with respect and allowed us as audience members to connect with her while we could not see her. At the end they had a photo of her and a shrine set up for us to place flowers on and it was really beautiful
this is really wonderful, I love that the artist had the idea to make it an immersive play about her life, especially because SO MUCH of her life was based on her appearance. Immersive plays are fascinating to me and she is such a little known individual who deserves to BE known for her incredible strength and dignity, as well as her child. So awesome.
I love how you approached her story treating her as a person instead of a morbid curiosity and I'm overjoyed that this woman finally was able to be laid to rest with the dignity and respect that she deserved! 💜💜
To be fair, being an old timey doctor would have been great. As the meme goes "you have ghosts in your blood, you should do cocaine about it"
hey there reference, it's me, ya boi
that sounds almost on-par with Scientology lmao only less cocaine and more "money givey"
Yaoi LovER it sounds nothing like scientology. At all.
"you have evil aliens in your blood..know what will get em out? singing a slavery contract and cash"
That poor woman...no one should be treated like that in life or death!
Ironically, these death videos are helping me cope with the amount of death that's been going on this year. Thank you for your work.
Same. The more you learn about death the easier it is to cope with it
"The Nazis, of all people, ended these freak shows" as part of the plan to kill all the shows' *living* performers ("degenerates"/"useless eaters"), yes. Idk, just seems like pertinent information there.
Oh god, now that you remind me of that part, that actually makes sense 😔
Being Norwegian it's very weird hearing we kept the corpse of this poor woman in our possession for so long, and I never once heard about it.
Same here, that surprised me.
Most European countries should face the fact that they likely have abused corpses and artificats of PoC in their possession that need to be returned.
Makes u wonder what else they arent telling u
XDranzer000 How’s she an SJW when it’s literally known that Europeans kept the body’s of POC in museums on display for years. You’re literally on a video proving it.
@XDranzer000 Found the asshole
Such a tragic story :(
It really is! ):
nionvox if only she had gone back to her village instead of performing :(
#theodorelentsucks
At various times in history, performing in shows was the only way for lower-class 'freaks' to make a living. Depending on their physical issues, some could be unable to do heavy labor and lacked the education for other employment (assuming anybody would hire them); some families literally couldn't afford to have non-working members aside from very young children; society shunned them, cutting off other support; they weren't sought as spouses -- that sort of thing. But a traveling show gave them employment, housing, and the company of people who wouldn't reject them. It sucked, but it was better than begging and hoping not to be robbed. For Julia, though, her decision to perform rather than go home was predetermined by her childhood as a glorified dancing monkey for a jerk who did not see her as human. People had controlled her almost from birth: she didn't have the strength to resist. Her intelligence and ability were wasted.
I agree to some extent, but occasionally, close knit villages can become used to people with differences and become strangely accepting. I doubt that would have happened in her home village, but if she'd had the financial capability (which I know she didn't) to immigrate somewhere she could be safer from superstition she may have been ostracized less. I fear that no matter where she was, she would have been taken advantage of and feared.
There was a show on hbo in the early 80s that included Julia and as a kid I was so scared of her that it caused a life long interest. As I got older, I understood the real monsters in her story. Finally she’s laid to rest.
I love how you humanize people after death and give them some dignity. I also love your channel 💚🙏
I'm now using Theador Lent as an insult now. Like Ima run into an ex and be like "you theador"
No dont. My sons name is theodore lol
I like the name Theodore. Just call him Lent.
#TheodoreLentSucks
Brilliant! I'm so stealing for my inner non confrontational monologue lmao 😁👊🏽❤
#TheodoreLentisoverparty
#theworst
#TheodoreLentSucks
#iquit
#girlitsatrap
#theworst
#seeecretembalmingtechnique
i’m crying. i’m so happy she got the dignity and respect she deserved in the end, even though she never knew that dignity and respect in life + had no idea 156 years later people would be advocating for her.
So sad.... i truly believe that she’s beautiful, her body hair is gorgeous and she pulled it off beautifully. It’s so heartbreaking how awful she’d been treated before AND after her death. I’m glad she’s now resting in peace.
I think she was rather beautiful too.
Agreed - she was actually really pretty! I’m glad she finally has a chance to rest ❤
Ngl I cried seeing this woman mummified with her boy. This is truly heartbreaking
Unrelated to video, but I have to thank you. My mother just died, and she was dead for about a month before she was found. Everyone tried to discourage me from seeing her one last time, but I was set on seeing her. I don't regret it at all. I kind of wish I took more time actually. But thank you for helping me have the strength to do that, and to feel confident in going into the funeral home.
Jay Y I am so sorry. I wish you well ❤ talk about her to the people you know and trust, it may help you feel better
Jay Y I'm sorry for your loss. May she rest in peace. 🌻
Oh- wth? I'm so glad you have OUR COMMUNITY of deathlings, who arnt afraid! I AM SO GLAD you viewed HER! It helps, doesn't it? Just remember- your family, friends, they will most likely NOT SPEAK about it, cause of they cant face it. So, TALK TO US! We are not afraid thanks to this channel. 😊
Awe, don't ya know...
I'm from Culiacán in Sinaloa, a city that is really close to Julia's birthplace, I'm glad you talked abt her and her life, she deserved better. Back in 2013 when she was brought back to be buried, she recieved lots of flowers and love from everyone. It's very sad that her child couldn't make it with her. Greetings from México! I love your videos✨
God I honestly teared up at the part where tons of people sent her flowers and all that. At long last. It would’ve been an HONOR to be in her presence. So talented and smart and undeserving of the exploitation she endured.
Would you consider doing a video on the lives & corpses of African women placed in human zoos? I always wondered what happened to them after they passed & I think the education would be enlightening to everyone!
Agreed, I'd like to learn about that
That seems very interesting if she can find any information on it that is
Agreed
bump because yes, agreed
Great idea!
The three dislikes must be relatives of Theodore Lent 🤣 THE WORST
Maybe is the fact that being a sideshow freak in Europe saved her life as opposed to living in Mexico in the 19th century.... Then again when it comes to being "outraged" context doesn't really matter....
I don't understand what you mean but have a nice day !
Thank God she was finally laid to rest. It's horrible what they did to her son. I was hoping he had been placed with her. May she rest in peace.
Ohmygod this story is heartbreaking. I feel so bad for her.. I'm so glad she's at rest. My heart goes out to her little boy ❤
"The Worst!"
Erica Lauren i
That baby is what got me. Ugh I just can’t believe that.
Yeah that is something I can't comprehend. It's your own flesh and blood. Even though he lived only for 35 hours, it was still his son. I'm not a father yet, but I couldn't possibly imagine something so depraved, so abhorrent. Being able to do that to their family.
Very similar to Joseph Merrick (the elephant man) He did finally find dignity being cared for by Dr. Frederick Treves. Many famous people came to see him in a respectful and personable way. His ending was sad when he decided to sleep like a normal person, knowing he would suffocate if he did so. 😪
The story of the Elephant Man is more nuanced. Dr. Treves did not want to care for Joseph, feeling his condition too extreme for the hospital facilities. Joesph Merrick actually wanted to return to the Fairs where could make money. He knew his body would end up on display after his death and he may have believed that there was nothing left for him. Dr. Treves profited off the case of The Elephant Man, even writing memoirs; where could not even remember his name. He repeatedly refers to him as John, not Joesph. The bones of Joseph Merrick are still kept in the Royal British Hospital.
New here. Really impressed w the level of sensitivity, nuance and dignity you bring to the subjects. I had never heard of this woman before. She deserved better in life and at least you chose to focus on her humanity while highlighting the inhumanity to which she was subject.
Yeah, it seems doctors in the 1800s were mostly just guys who got the education to know what the human body looked like inside but were pretty free to just make up and promote whatever they felt like as if it was hard science. That's how Freud and his ilk got so well-known.
Your local barber was the town surgeon in the 1800's!
Her son taken from her in life and death. No rest for the fallen. :C
Ew I know. The fact that her baby was thrown into a field and eaten... Just horrible. I wonder if the thieves did that so they wouldn’t be shown off anymore. Idk. Either way... Horrible.
Honestly got so DISTRESSED at her misfortune in life and death that I ended up sobbing by the time her body got back to Mexico and they held a vigil for her. Rest in peace, Julia!
I'VE HEARD A TAPE OF HER SINGING SHE HAD A BEAUTIFUL VOICE her life was So sad God bless her soul!!!♡♡♡♡
@@chelsead6054 came here to say the same thing... just not as well.
ur hair suits u so well. i really don't think i've ever liked that haircut on someone as much as i like it on you. ur naturally fricken gorgeous. 💗
So agree, most look like toddlers or boxed in faces, she some how look amazing!
Looking forward to the one video comment section that doesn't mention Caitlin's stunning, shining, soft, moveable hair ! 😈
Um hello did you not see Admiral Ackbar :P
Lena Pauline she's a cutie
Lena Pauline yessss there’s no other hair that would fit her better
dear Mortician, would you consider to make an iconic corpse episode about queen Christine of Sweden? she's another proof that women can't rest in peace when some men decide they can make money on their corpses.
Turquoise Cheetah they’re not your “dear”
Turquoise Cheetah fuck off troll
@Fhjthnl Lol Iuyo given the fact that shes correct, Id say us women have every reason to.
fuck men lol
LadyKraken Same
"How hard was it to be a doctor back in the day?" I think you just cut up a few corpses and chilled in an armchair hashing stoner levelvtheories and you're a bonafide doctor!
But only if you had a penis.
It broke my heart to see someone that was born different was treated badly. Thank you.
Gosh, the freaks were the ones who paid to gawk at her.
How is watching porn any different?
@@camogrrl ??? consent, my man
@@camogrrl and the fact that people are watching porn to be aroused not gawk at someone they deem to be abnormal or a "freak"
So sad, please do a video about miss Saartjie Baardman. These women deserve our love and attention for all they went through.
I am intrigued. Please tell me more.
Seriously like it's so sad what many went through just because of their RACE let alone anomalies and disabilities. "Human zoos" proving one kind of person superior to others, what a fun family past time! :(
MistressMagick she was a tribal woman (the tribe did labial stretching), who scientists tried to use her vulval abnormality as proof that the Africans were not human as white people, even after death they removed her labia for study, as well as having her body on display, I'm not quite sure when she was properly buried.
She was not buried until 2002 after her death in 1815
I just made a comment on her. Look up Hottentot Venus. They made a movie about her life
Julia Pastrana possessed an eerie beauty. So unique when compared to most of us. It is a wonderful thing that these so-called "freak shows" were done away with. How much greater it would have been had these 'shows' never existed at all.
I remember we had a paperback book in our family library with a title something like "Human Freaks and Oddities." Julia Pastrana was in it, as well as Eng & Chang, Violet & Daisy Hilton, Myrtle Corbin, The Tocci Brothers, Tom Thumb, and others. Although none of their lives would have been easy, I find it very sad that their uniqueness was perceived as something odd and macabre. Most spent their lives trying to fit in, when they were clearly born to stand out. Life has taught me not to judge a book by its cover. I would have missed out on some of the very best folks in my life if I had!
What i love about your iconic corpse videos is that you treat the stories of their lives with respect and compassion. You are a very nice person
Thank you so much for your videos. I have had a fascination with death and corpses since my grandfather passed in order to cope with his death. Not only are your videos educational, but they've helped me in my mourning process. Thank you again!
powermezzo I know how you feel, I became obsessed with true crime, crime scene clean up and body farm type documentaries when I was 15 after the murder of my uncle. Knowing the inns and outs of death made it easier to process such a difficult and confusing time.
powermezzo EXACT same thing happened with me. It wasn’t until my grandfather passed
Glad to know I'm not alone! My students think I'm a weirdo. Haha!
HI there! may I ask you to explain to my why/how it helped you? I am actually afraid that what I know about death, decay ect.. will disturb me and make it harder for me to mourn when I eventually have to... and that's actually one of my biggest fears about death :/ so I would be curious to hear your stories guys if you don't mind :) (sorry I'm from france so my english is probably a little weird...)
I had a similar experience to other people in this thread. I'm sure everyone reacts differently, but I personally get more scared of what I don't know. There's a pose in yoga called "dead body pose", when I was mourning my grandfather I would use that time to think about his body. It gave me some time to contemplate something that I was sad about. You can't run away from feelings, you need to give yourself an appropriate and safe time to feel them.
Ugh, she deserved so much better. My heart.
“The Worst” popping up had me screaming,
I love your videos, you're always so animated about the subjects you talk about, they may be dead but you manage to bring them to life for us. Thankyou x
This is so sad. It’s awful they treated her corpse like that. She was a human after all.
Tamara Figge i agree they should treat her fairly. Although i would go on to say that even if not human we should completely respect all beings!
This is the 19th century....
As usual - informative, educational, and entertainingly funny!
I don't know what you found funny there .
She has great delivery, and I appreciate bringing light-heartedness to the subject. BUT... I would like to see Caitlyn whip out her Midwestern mom voice more often.
Thank you so much for talking about her so respectfully. She deserves every bit of love and respect she gets and more. She's incredible.
I just found this channel and I really love how respectfully you handle these stories and your Spanish pronunciations.
I'm happy that she was finally laid to rest but still sad that her son wasn't with her. Did the rodents eat the bones as well? Why weren't they ever looked for? So sad.
Lynda Jaeger My guess? Nobody cared. And if dogs did not run of with them, they where thrown out.
I cried... so so sad. Respect is so important to the LIVING. While she might not know she was finally given a grave......we know. Respect.
it is really sad. she has only been shown respect after almost 200 years of being dead, and after a decade of people fighting on her behalf. I just hope that somehow she knows that people are finally treating her as a human being. I know it's a lot to hope for but it only seems right
Whats even sadder is that her son was never given a proper burial. I mean, throw into a field? That's low, even for rowdy teens.
HELP!!!!! I just found this channel a couple of days ago and I'm already addicted to it and mesmerized by those gorgeous baby blues.
Been watching your channel for the last few days, and this is the first one to touch me and make a 50+ year old man cry at man's inhumanity to others. Thank You.
"Suck it Theodore!" #theworst
Wait... Wait wait... This image of Amiral Ackbar with your hair Caitlyn... I need this for my phone wallpaper ! It's perfection.
The tombstone reads "Sinaloan artist renowned for her international career", and this made me cry so much. All the feels in the world. Sinaloa
This is the first I've heard of Julia Pastrana and she was put through so much injustice even after death! Thank you for sharing her tale in such a respectful way.
🎄💀Merry Deathmas, one and all!💀🎄
CharmingLiberalScum back at ya bud x
"Hello I'm a doctor" 😂😂😂😂 But on a more serious note my heart does go out to Julia. She was beautiful and deserved much more than this.
I see her tomb every year because she is in the same cemetery as my grandfather. It always felt bittersweet to see her finally back home
Being multiply disabled myself (not sure if Julia would call herself that) I often look into people in the past labeled as "freaks" to know more about their lives and to make sure their stories are being told. I cannot thank you enough for telling her story. She is beautiful woman both physically and mentally. I may have commented a year or so ago but i forgot
I believe once we are dead, we have moved on from all thoughts of what will happen to our remains. But this will never excuse what the living does to those who once was living too.
Renee Parent so true
Renee Parent I think it's more respect. Showing respect to the dead.
YES!!! But we aren't that good as a whole at showing respect to our living so it only goes to say, our death are going to suffer the same fate.
That poor baby
I've been having a really hard week and I really appreciate listening to your stories.
Thank you for being so kind and respecting her death and corpse. She did deserve resting in peace.
What did you say Theodore Lent was again?
Deku Kitty the worst
THE WORST
#theworst
The fucking worst!
The worst
Oh PLEASE Death Momma keep doing the Iconic Corpse series in 2018! I love watching documentries. & each one of the Iconic Corpse videos is like a mini deathumentry (death documentry). 💀 Bentham's Head needs to make another appearance before the end of 2017. PLEASE!?! Merry Christmas & A Happy & Safe New Year to all Deathlings. & especially to you & your loved ones Dear Death Momma. 🎅🎄🎁⛄❄🎇🎉🎆🎊✨
I love the way you tell stories! This is so fascinating. Also, I rlly appreciate how aghast you are at their treatment of Julia, it reminds us she was a real person, who shouldn't have been treated so poorly :)
This series is so interesting and I always learn so much from the episodes. The stories are sad, but I feel like you do them justice and it is good to know their stories. I hope that you make more of the series soon :)
Slay the corpse game maaaaa
Awk the poor wee darlin' she never experienced true kindness or in fact respect or common decency. Dear love her.
Why does ur face look fake?
@@ronnieronson4390 🤷🏽♀️ no idea, it's just me face? I don't really know what you mean by that 😅
It truly makes me sick seeing all these people have their remains disrespected and abused.
I first read about Julia Pastrana 30 years ago. At the time, her corpse was “lost.” I was so heartened in 2013 when they brought her remains home to Sinaloa, where she should have stayed. Thank you for being respectful to her memory and calling out the people who abused her in life and in death. May she rest easy.