Wednesday and Bianca’s Fencing Match | Wednesday | Netflix Philippines
Bianca’s (Joy Sunday) an undefeated fencing champ-but not if Wednesday (Jenna Ortega) has anything to say about it. Can she beat Bianca at her own game? Come see for yourself in Wednesday, only on Netflix.
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Smart, sarcastic and a little dead inside, Wednesday Addams investigates a murder spree while making new friends - and foes - at Nevermore Academy.
I like the way this scene was choreographed. Though Wednesday lost the match, she still made her point to everyone (and especially Bianca) that she's a force to be reckoned with.
its okay
She's smaller and has less muscle more agility and flexibility. Bianca is a giant compared to her and physically stronger (my favorite kind of lady honestly!) as well as having a comanding presence. And Wednesday made her move. She made her flinch.
@@lovinavargas-carriedo2698 good info. thank u
Naw, y'all just hate when the arrogant mothe'fucke' backs up their shit. Wednesday was a challenge which she asked for, and Wednesday push the matter and lost. Yes, Wednesday showed she was a force to be recond with, but still got slapped down by someone though arrogant, still was her better. At least for now.
Poorly choreographed. Too much spinning and too much gymnastics. Too ‘Hollywood’. A sabre duel to first blood should be full of tension, not acrobatics.
I think she was happy because she got a "real" competition
I actually love her smile at the end it gave off the “I think we’re gonna be great frenemies” vibe 🥺☺️
"I'll be waiting for our next match"
I knew that momwnt bianca started to like her
Yes.
@@babycakenerds zbxzm
I loved that Wednesday was actually shocked that someone managed to cut her. I binge-watched this entire series in a day! I thoroughly enjoyed it.
I tried to ration myself ......yeah that didn't work
A slave of Netflix you are.
@@oldguy3027yeah finishe sun less then 24 Hours
@@crvladI am a slave to technology. I have reached Wednesdays expectations.
@@oldguy3027 I managed to do it successfully
needs a second season immediately
And we can let Tim Burton write some episodes of season 2
yeeeeesssss pleeeeeease
Right.
And direct them just like he did in the 90s and the 80s
No it doesn’t shut the hell up
One of the many things I love about Nevermore is how Wednesday was allowed to pick her own costume/color palette although her dress didn’t uniform with others'.
She was principal favorite after all
She has allergies
She shouldn’t have been able to. The black uniform is specifically for a fencing coach..
@@aviphoria Yeah, black is the only color banned on fencers' uniforms.
While it's okay for practice you can't compete in a coaches outfit- it's hard to see a hit and difficult for the referees.
"He isn't hopeless, he's lazy..." This is a nice hint of Bianca's true character. She's not just a jerk or mean for the sake of mean. She's the best, but also someone who notes the quality of others and seeks unorthodox means to draw it out. She's an apex trying to drag other's up to her level.
but be careful with that mindset, i like that she's not mean just to be mean, but she also doesn't understand other people's lives
@@abcd18802 treat people equally but at the same time indivually
@@abcd18802 yes. She is genuinely happy to face people on her level. She is likely someone who really struggles socially to understand people.
But she cheats in other games! so you’re wrong
@@patb00y there was no rules
Wednesday losing the fight here was a mark of good hero design. You need to let your characters fail, especially when they are confident. It shows your audience they are human and can bleed and sometimes it humbles them...other times it just makes them more determined. Either way it's a good show.
Exactly
Im glad they didnt give her the Mulan 2020 treatment. A character who has room to grow keeps a series alive.
@@upy0ur5 tell that to one punch man lol. But I agree I prefer my main characters to have limits. Make the growth better
Facts. Why I loved one piece. Luffy lost battles
@@blakex2699 Its supposed to be a comedy but I honestly cant help but root for Genos.
As a fencer this is the most stupidest and funniest fencing match ive ever seen
They made it entertaining because fencing is boring.
The way fencing is portrayed in film is usually stupid. The equivalent would be like watching a high stakes chess game and they start throwing the pieces at each other to decide who wins. That's not remotely how chess is played. It would have been way more cool if they did it the right way.
This wasn’t fencing. It was a lightsaber battle. I saw right through it.
@@A_Distant_Life they portrayed it better. Notice that no one watches Fencing in olympics? Because it's a boring sport.
Lesson: don't assume arrogance means unskilled..some people really can back up what they say... Side note: I am loving Wednesday's black fencing outfit... my first thought was immediately Yes
Floyd Mayweather?
@@jasperj7239 exactly
This is true... I have met people that are arrogant but they are really skilled in their field...
But Bianca knew that she faced a worthy opponent as well.
At a certain point, it stops being arrogance and becomes objectivity.
This was honestly my favourite Netflix series of the year!! The cast all did such a good job owning their roles. Especially Jenna she shined as Wednesday. The story and especially the writing the dialogue so funny and fresh!
Jenna "shined " as Wednesday is not a compliment mate :D
@@aaronjames6578 she meant it as a compliment so it was indeed a compliment
@@jamesha175 "shined" ??? Wednesday ??? ... seems like an insult to me
@@aaronjames6578 Jenna killed it in the babysitter sequel
@@jessec3974 respect brodah
I like the fact that she didn't win, because it would be too cliché if she did.
in her mind it feels good
Of course she lost - the opponent is not a white man.
Ya and it wouldnt really make sense her beating the best fencer there
I also liked it, she being good at everything and allways getting her way was becoming boring.
One of the best parts of the series was that Wednesday was not infaillible. She made lots of mistakes and stumbled more than a few times. Just witness how many times she pointed to the wrong person as the mastermind/monster. She was overconfident and it bit her on the butt. Hopefully she'll learn.
As a fencer, I'm really happy the sabre got used in this scene. Even though steps were maybe more or less correct, I'm happy they were a fencing scene, actors really did well
Fencer too I just don't enjoy the choreographing like ghe scene where they spin around each other and the smacking or what ever that was
@@the-color-brown no of course, it wwasn't what we usually do, but it added a bit to the spice I feel
I’m always happy when they choose sabre. Despite the “inaccuracies”
@@Demphure yeah
@@the-color-brown Fencer here too. I loved the turns and choreo. It made this scene extra spicy. Loved the Wednesday’s flip. It was meant to be a little extra.
This was a great way to De-Mary Sue Wednesday as a character. A superb job by the writers.
I agree, shes more human this way
@dooraymarshall6436 You are clearly another sad wannabe-aggrieved moron, but yes, she is absolutely excellent at everything she does, no matter what it is. She absolutely stabs and poisons and injures and sics piranha on and electrocutes people. The reason she doesn't kill people in the shows and movies (in fact, none of them really do despite endlessly doing things that should) is because then they wouldn't be quirky evil dangerous, but serial killers. The fact they stick to harming rude or annoying people (for instance, yourself) would not change that. Having a pile of bodies around them would be bad for their endearing personalities that are key to their popularity.
Who would ever think Wednesday is a Mary sue 😂
@@jacobplays6917 Now she clearly isnt, and its nice
@@jacobplays6917 Anyone who knew what it meant.
This might be strange to say, but I appreciate that Wednesday does something villainous and gets punished for it. It's good to make sure the MC it's a flawless person both physically and personally
This is actually a pretty excellent scene: Wednesday, true to form, acts as an Agent of Vengeance in defending the weak (Rowan) against the strong (Bianca), first with trading verbal barbs, with the added metaphor of her rapier as a stinger; that's actually characteristic of The Addams sense of honor. When the challenge turns physical, she fights in traditional formation to 2 effects--1) it allows her to exploit Bianca's underestimation of her to get the first hit, 2) enhances Bianca's ego by allowing Bianca to use that formation to get the second hit. Then, she flips the script by abandoning linear stances into loose formation, giving her the upper hand as Bianca is likely unaccustomed to combat maneuvering. Then, Wednesday actually loses, which subverts the narrative expectation. Wednesday's mistake was being impractical and aggressive. She assumed that Bianca's ego masked some ineptitude, and so Wednesday focused too much effort on humiliating flair while Bianca focused on pragmatic tactics. Every misstep Wednesday made was by trying to match her opponent's energy instead of forcing her opponent to match hers--Bianca is bold and aggressive, Wednesday is always subdued and precise. By taking the aggressive approach, Wednesday opened herself up to positions that made Bianca's hits possible. Had she adopted a strategy reflective of her personality, Bianca would have had to make all the gambits, thus making her vulnerable to Wednesday's ripostes. I also like that Wednesday's "psychopathy" makes her an outcast. These Nevermore cryptids are fairly conventional people so a normal human with inhuman psychology unnerves even them. Unfortunately, this scene kind of proves that Wednesday ISN'T a psychopath: if she was, she wouldn't care about Rowan or feel the need to defend him.
She is a bit coded as nevro divergent and not as a psykopath.
@@edj8008 It's been a question for some time. She did bury Tully & Mrs. Craven alive with Pugsley in the first movie and she almost killed that kid at her last school. Her fascination with serial killers also indicates she has the inclination.
There is no rapier in this scene. They fight with sport sabers.
suck footage, this is not real sabre fencing
unless of coruse it's a property dispute. allowing someone not under her control to mess with someone she considered HERS is something she woudn't countenance. that doens't mean there's actual empathy.
The lesson for Wednesday: Just because her mother and father fence to flirt doesn't make her an expert. Although she *is* good, there are people who are *equally* good and then it just comes down to the question of who makes the first mistake.
That was also the lesson for Bianca, the first point was beautifully executed
Actually it was awhole bunch of people that sat in a room that wrote this for fictional characters for a paycheck the lesson learned is making up dumb shit will get you paid
They could easily fence again, and with a different outcome.
Plz even riccis didnt do any physical work. She is a flake and dork. She at the camp in family values she didnt do jack but run her mouth. Now they want Wednesday the new blk widow
Why should there be a lesson in everything?
Many audience misunderstood Bianca here, they thought she was bullying Rowan because she's a crass or blunt. In reality she gives him respect by acknowledging that he isn't helpless. Infact Rowan is one of the most powerful people in the school with his powers and it's possible it is the other students, or the audience who underestimate him, not Bianca. How is Bianca a villain when during episode 1 all she did was: - make some remarks about the new girl based on gossip that she killed someone. Actually Ajax even said Wednesday ate the people she killed so why is no one saying Ajax is a villain? - Bianca only accepted Wednesday's duel and fought her fair and square at fencing. - Wednesday approached Bianca after Rowan died and asked her to report it. Instead of dismissing her, Bianca actually helped her and went to report to Weems and not questioned Wednesday's honesty whether it was nonsense. I am not saying she is purely good as well but considering her a villain during this time, people are exaggerating. Rowan actually tried to kill Wednesday twice! is he not the villain then? Because im not hearing anyone say something about Rowan.
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I still don't like Bianca lol, the "misunderstood villain" just doesn't work for me. I still gotta finish the series but my opinion will remain the same for now. Edit: Hello, I have finished the series now and I still don't like her LOL, and just to clarify, I don't hate her character, but I don't like it either, I'm more neutral towards her, and ignoring how biased this commenter is towards her, she still did some nasty things (and I'm not talking about things *towards* Wednesday but in general) and that's what I don't like about her.
@@skarlet9104 yeah but how is she actually a villain when she just retorts back at wednesday's blunt remarks? How is Bianca a villain when during episode 1 all she did was: - make some remarks about the new girl based on gossip that she killed someone. Actually Ajax even said Wednesday ate the people she killed so why is no one saying Ajax is a villain? - Bianca only accepted Wednesday's duel and fought her fair and square at fencing. - Wednesday approached Bianca after Rowan died and asked her to report it. Instead of dismissing her, Bianca actually helped her and went to report to Weems and not questioned Wednesday's honesty whether it was nonsense. I am not saying she is purely good as well but considering her a villain during this time, people are exaggerating. Rowan actually tried to kill Wednesday, is he not the villain then?
@@raylenerobin I just said villain as an example, it would actually be "misunderstood character" or something along those lines, I said misunderstood villain because that's the most common tbh.
@@skarlet9104 okay that would be better. I would also consider her as a grey character. Just like Weems, The Sherrrif, Ajax, etc. Villains would be the killers, The monster & Rowan for trying to kill Wed twice.
"Your face finally got that splash of color it so desperately needed." And that smile 😂 I love Bianca.
Right she's so beautiful
I don’t mind Bianca. She isn’t like Wednesday’s enemy or nemesis, she’s just her rival/competition. They don’t get along, but they don’t hate each other or try to go out of their way to hurt each other. Unless it’s in a competition. I actually think they have an interesting dynamic, I could see them becoming frienemy rivals. Like one of them gets in trouble and the other saves them, and they have a friendly moment before going back to there aggressive retorts. Like an “I hate you, but I don’t want you to get hurt.” kind of thing, I think it could have a lot of potential.
@@glazier6040 think you didnt finished the series yet, cuz they become sort of it later.
Bit racist like
@@deaconworcestershire93 It's not racist. It's because Wednesday is inhumanly pale, and only wears black.
I love how Wednesday fighting style gravely changed after she has challenged Bianca to a "winner draws first blood" challenge. Wednesday fighting style becomes more circular and contains some elements of Wu Shu. Especially at 2:24 you can see how she does that somersault jump to dodge. Uncle Fester taught her very well!
Yes. I believe that trick she did to dodge is called an ariel
think that makes you lose right of way but im an epee player so what do i know
Imagine Bianca cut off one of Wednesday‘s braids💀
I LAUGHED LMFAO
I can't gureented you safety🤣
I GIGGLED HELP
And that's the last time we ever saw Bianca lol
as a fencer.. i can confirm i have done that b4💀😭
Wednesday really broke that stereotypical hero that doesn't get backed up and tries to act as the Revenger Person, Bianca didn't down bad Rowan, she actually recognizes him as a good fighter. Her mentality/mindset reminds me of Saitama, who couldn't find an enemy at his level to face him equally and finally be great challenge to him, just like Bianca. Wednesday's problem was to overconfident herself on humiliate Bianca more than just win the battle in a fair and not exaggerated way. And another thing: The villain here is Rowan, who tried to kill Wednesday already on the 1st episode due to her mother's fear of Nevermore's "Fall" predicted on her visions.
She lost but sometimes the point is to challenge the unchallenged
It's not really about winning the fight but to proof to ourselves we're not coward Because coward they don't live they just there
Bianca probably has found her worthy opponent
Finally a battle where the confident hero doesn't completely outclass and embarrass their adversary, but loses like a (relatively) human being could. Feels refreshing. Although Wednesday is right about many things, she's not right about everything and might overestimate herself.
pretty wild that this is one of the best fencing scenes in modern day media considering it's painfully obvious that noone involved in this scene has ever fenced or watched anyone fence or has any idea what fencing is. Here's what i noticed on my first watch. 1. If you walked through a piste like at 0:07 you would get thrown out instantly. 2. 00:20 patch is on the wrong side of his jacket literally unforgivable (kidding) 3. Games aren't played to 3 points, why does every director think that 4. Just continue ignoring the electric devices we've been using for like 60 years and pretend like all fencing is dry fencing 5. using epee masks for sabre but since there's no electricity doesnt matter i guess 6. Black lamees are only for teachers and masters, not edgelords 7. If anyone even joked about playing with their masks off the teacher would throw them out, literally what is the point 8. Why would anyone ever make removable tips for swords they would get sued so hard 9. Don't get why every fencing scene has to have some dumb twist to make it cooler, it's already a swordfight just make it look not dumb and silly. Unfortunately all of them look goofy as hell including this one. Its still pretty good but the bar is so low. 10. I'm not an expert on right of way but pretty sure doing a triple somersault loses priority 11. Also love how whenever fencing is shown they're using sabres but playing like its foil (ofc they're not actually fencing at all and just stage fighting but still) Thanks this has been cinemasins, sin counter: 11
These two would hate to admit it, but they’re more alike than they think.
I mean they end up being friends
As a fencer, this is hilarious 😂😂 they have no idea what they're doing
I love how Xavier is just standing in the back watching.🤣cant wait for second season
The way she looks at Xavier is funny and dead serious 😂
This is one of the best scenes of the show We all expected Wednesday to win but the writers subverted our expectations by making Bianca win
When Wednesday said “And you must be the self appointed queen bee. Interesting thing about bees, pull out their stingers and they drop dead,” I was like “damnnnn”! That’s probably my favorite line. Amazing roast lol!
But Bianca landed a pretty good one in the end.
Bianxa4: "Oh you must be the psychopath they let in!" Wednesday: "And you must be the self appointend queen bee. " UGH THIS IS MY 2ND FAVOURITE QUOTE
Wednesday might as well have said, "Oh, you're the stereotypical antagonist character that turns up in all these types of shows; just cast differently."
@@jetubertim burton is not a 4th wall breaker, but i agree, that would be cool af
@@jetuber What's "stereotypical" about her?
@@jetuberum no, bianca wasn’t an antagonist.
as a fencer im adding wednesday to my long list of shows/movies/books that tried to portray fencing and failed miserably. this hurts my eyes
Haha pretty sure every fencer has a very very long list of those films/shows/books.
I admire the rivalry between these two
This is an unrealistic fencing match.
It's honestly so cringe isn't it, and that's before they even started fighting.
Just watched the clip, I love how Thing is portrayed, such attention to detail with e stitches and the guy who was beaten at fencing in the beginning using his inhaler..!! Brilliant, I thought this was at the cinema and now i find its aseries on Netflix gonna have to watch it
I am a fencer so the second she said no masks/ tips I was like gurl what 😮
How this scene would play out in real life: Wednesday: [wears black gear into gym] The other people wearing black: aight, bet Everyone having unique parts of their gear (flags, names, stamps, etc.): aight, bet Wednesday: [walks across mats while people are actively fencing] The fencers on the mat: Ayo, what the heck? rude. Wednesday and opponent: [keeping their points everywhere other than on their opponent] All the fencers on the sidelines giving constructive criticism: Hey, stop flinging your blade everywhere, keep the tip on the opponent! Wednesday: [continuously turns her back to her opponent] Ref: [issues her a black card after several reds] Wednesday: Winner draws first blood Ref: Like hell they will. Young lady, please leave my gym.
Just when we were prepared to hate Bianca, she pulled through. Love her!
Don't judge people with their first impression ,get to know them much longer , you'll surprised what you find out
Me too i love her
This is good. Wensday is an actuall interesting story not a bland tenage power fantasy as a lot magic shool franchises it has bern compered to often are.
Sorry about the spelling Dyslectic
I love Xavier in this scene !! When he first notices Wednesday, he takes off his helmet !! And he staring at her when she wins the first round !! She lost but he still admired something about her !! 😊😊
The fist two bouts are perfect. Sadly, after removing the masks it's all spinning and no fencing :( The final hit is clearly out of distance, because Bianca at the end presents her saber point-in-line and it's clearly too far from Wednesday's face while after getting hit none of the girls moved their feet.
I think professional fencers substituted in the first two matches.
@@dabouras Still choreography in the last one is terrible like ameteurs were not only doing it but also inventing it.
@Tin Watchman What? No, the moves they used in the first two rounds could be extended with moves that are prohibited by fencing rules, like, cross-stepping, fleche, grapling... instead they forgot all their fencing moves and started spinning like a witchers xD
They didn't reset to the middle of the piste after the first bout.
yeah, the fact that it’s never that long and that they never go back in position stress me out 😅
I hate how much I love this show. I would hate to see more seasons!
Stop hating
I can't wait to see their rematch in the future. Even Bianca herself is looking forward to it.
Oh my God!! Her full toothed grin at the end!! I'm in love with you BIANCA!!!😭😭😭
this is some zesty fencing
i just finished watching the whole series and i thought it was great. i would love to see a rematch between wednesday and bianca but then become this unstoppable team with xavier, enid, and eugene. i love those characters.
I have to say that this girl is the coolest Wednesday Adams yet. Imagine how much cooler she would be if she was cast as Emily the Strange. ☺️
Or maybe Alice Maness Return
Something tells me Jenny wanted Wednesday and Bianca to quote Zorro & Elena from "The Mask of Zorro". It only seems fitting since Catherine Zeta-Jones (Elena) was playing Wednesday's mother (Morticia) in this series. Bianca/Zorro, 'I do not have time to give you the proper instruction.' Wednesday/Elena, 'I have had the proper instruction since I was four.'
The way she learned all of that from fencing is incredible its amazing how she learned it!
You would be carded or banned if you tried this in a real fencing club. The only way this would be acceptable is if it was coach approved. Likewise Wednesday is wearing a coaches outfit. Unless it was purely for practice it would not be allowed. Don't get me started on the kicking........
He isn't hopeless, he's lazy EMOTIONAL DAMAGE😅
Although Wednesday had quite the teacher, being Gomez who's notoriously an expert fencer, but it seems Wednesday still has much to learn.
Wednesday underestimated her opponent. For all of her arrogance the other girl took Wednesday seriously and didn't mess around.
I mean yeah she's only 15-16 years old so of course she still has some to learn, though it's mentioned in episode 5 that Gomez started teaching her when she was little W: "how many fathers hand their daughter a fencing blade when she's five years old?" G: "your sabre strokes were an essay, in perfection" It's a really sweet moment between them
i cant wait for season 2! we need it asap..
This series is worth watching again on Halloween. My generation is playing these characters now. Of course, I have to mention that in this month too this is our tradition too, I have some things in thought.🖤
Wednesday stunt double, Jenny Ayumi, is incredible. ❤❤❤
I remember reading that the stunt double for Pris in Bladerunner was a man, the bit where she tumbles and grabs Deckard in between her legs, I`ve slowed it down and i cant tell...!!
I watched an interview yesterday - Jenna Ortega does her own stunts! I was shocked. Not a lot of actors/actresses will do their own but Jenna did all these moves !
Look up Jenny Ayumi
The irony that her last name is Sunday and she's in a villain in a show called Wednesday.
I would have loved to have seen Wednesday use Gomez's finishing move on Tully from the first movie
second season immediately pleeeeease
fencing with saber on epee attire is crazy
Wednesday's all out , win or lose, attitude is something else.
I don't know which "sword" fight is written worst. This or that red room fight from the Last Jedi. Those useless spins when they could just as well strike their opponent instead are really frustrating
Agreed. It's ubiquitous now and always ridiculous.
There's a long comment from someone whose name starts with T explaining that there may be a reason in the story why Wednesday did those silly things and how that lead to the experienced fencer winning by not doing such silly moves.
@@johndododoe1411 The problem is that Bianca, which I assume you called an experienced fencer, does those silly moves too. In 2:17 she had a clear shot but decided to spin anyway. Not to mention the final strike which Wendnesday had plenty of time to block.
@@shymaniac Tell that to the person whose name starts with T. They wrote that long comment about how it works in the story and isn't a filmmaking mistake.
@@shymaniacbitching won’t change anything
I didn't like Bianca at first but I warmed up to her.
This is very racist they are using a white womans name for a black woman. I’ve never heard of a black woman name bianca
@@bijosn there are many black women named Bianca 🙄 there is literally a rapper named Bianca Bonnie
I love this scene, fencing honestly looks like so much fun, Wednesday is a tough one😉
I love the bee reference given everything that transpired around bees later on in the series 😊😊
Wow! That was pretty epic.
It was even more epic when James Bond did it first years ago. Ca-ca-ca-ca-copycat kzhead.info/sun/fKWGd8-Nkaeiqa8/bejne.html
Well shot well choreographed scene. But as someone who fenced for 8 years and did sabre. It makes me want to die.
Jenna is gonna kill this, this is enough proof
as a fencer... why are they fencing foil with sabres😭😭
this fencing style is ancient
It was admirable for me that the creators of Wednesday broke the cliché of the protagonist beating her rival in her first confrontation. And frankly I deduced right that Wednesday would lose to Bianca in that first duel, I unconsciously deduced that way.
I'm starting this series tonight, and I really hope that this scene continues on where Bianca laughs but then clutches her lower back, and it focuses on Wednesday's foil as she brings it into frame and blood drips off the tip.
That's a sabre, not a foil.
I absolutely love fencing ⚔️🗡️🖤 Definitely works on your coordination, cardio and the ladies love it too 🖤
I'm sold!
some small inaccuracies: - Refs/coaches don't say "en garde" to make fencers put on their mask, they are expected to wear them before that. "En garde" signals the fencers to assume the ready position, with "Allez" signalling the start of the bout. - Yes, if you fall it's your fault even if the opponent somehow "tripped" you. That's why people in fencing are taught footwork first and actual fencing later. Even with that, falling doesn't automatically means the opponent won, it simply stops and resets the bout - Even in first-blood-drawn fencing duels (according to old military officers' manuals, which my father did study when he was an Army officer) you are not allowed to either show your back to the opponent (so no twirling) nor you are allowed to step off the lane even with one foot. That would be considered ungentlemanly and you'd lose the duel by default (which would be even worse because it would mean you weren't a gentleman officer) - "No tips" wasn't a thing in military duels, no rule said you could only slash, which is why even in old military duels, even if you didn't have full masks, you had protection for torso, neck and eyes - No, even in old military duels kicking was not allowed - Sabre fencing doesn't count legs as targets so they wouldn't have had to guard for attack against them. The allowed areas are head, torso and arms. Swords (epèe) instead is free-for-all, but you can only strike with the tip. - A standard olympic fencing sabre doesn't leave a clean cut like that (nor does the sword or rapier), they are designed specifically not to. Sure, they can leave a very nasty bruise, maybe some surface scarification in addition, but you can't make that kind of cut - Being struck with a fencing weapon like that hurts like a bitch
épée* but the rest is gud :D Thanks for bringin us enlightenment
Rules that ban moves for being too powerful or dangerous weaken the realism of the training. Because the ultimate goal is to win against enemies that obey no rules, whether in war or private fights.
@@johndododoe1411 woah ok mr. BladeMaster69420 careful not to cut yourself on all that edge, and remember to take your trenchcoat, fedora and complementary Amazon katana when you leave. We started to put rules in fencing when it became a sport, and fencing became a sport because in the era of machineguns, air bombers, artillery and hand grenades you don't even have the time to heroically unsheathe your fine sabre that your fellows need to pick you up with a mop and bucket
@@johndododoe1411 You don't do fencing to win a war, you do fencing to have fun and play a sport
Ppl are weird, Bianca performance was on point! What the hell color has to do with it, she was great at the role 🤷🏾♂️
Cause people are so brainwashed into making everything about race.
Why i love bianca...
Fencer here. The second part of the duel is not realistic to the sport ofcourse but the first one is kinda accurate; their footwork that is. However the wear uniforms suitable for epee swords (one of the three swords in fencing) but their swords are sabers. Their play style also looks more like saber fencing and the fact that a point was counted when the right-side hit the blade with the side of it on top of the mask is also a sign of saber play. So I think they are playing a saber game but with epee clothing
Um, there's no point critiquing this because it's just a show. It doesn't have to look so accurate. Neither of them are professional fencers, smh...
@@maggiesullman3804 yeah. Ofc, just saying in case someone was wondering. It is generally nice for a show to be accurate. It looks complete. Also I was talking about the rules of fencing and they could use trained stuntmans
@@krupt5995 yeah, the fact that it’s never that long and that they never go back in position stras me out 😅
She was literally less than an inch away from slicing her eye off 💀
She's an Addams, she'll survive death and come back for more.
I like the way this ended, the expectation was that Wed was gonna win
The black gear is usually reserved for the instructor, so it's kinda weird to see a student wearing black and what I guess is the instructor in white.
Wednesday really treated this place like a prison. First thing to do is beat up the strongest one there to exert dominance. Didn't work in this case... Been on the backfoot ever since, always needing to keep one eye open.
Like from the movie big stan, no? Reference
Wednesday always slay in every episode
Rather, here she is slain.
2:34-2:35 That look on Wednesday’s face and the way she looks up at Bianca Wednesday is thinking “Holy cow, she actually beat me, no one beats me!!”
The chemistry here 👀
Brilliant series! Binge-watched all 9 episodes this weekend..
This was an Amazing show, brilliant
Netflix: "People like the show! Quick someone announce its canceled!"
I just seen the first episode. I impressed
So, I have some experience fencing. And I love picking apart this scene, seeing what they get right, and what they get wrong.
I do fencing, I believe it’s pretty hard just like other sports but it’s very fast which can be confusing to people who go on with their daily lives. When I started off fencing I cried blood and tears because I was not quick enough to take down anyone I went against. My reflexes were slow. But I have now improved and I think fencing is usually about reflexes. My opinion. Foil is the hardest one I had been through. Frankly because my weapon had seemed to always hit the leg or head. But Epee is important with defence. I mean all are but defence is not my strongest skill. Keep in mind fencing is not about hurting each other
Where do I start? They wouldn't be using pointed tips and they absolutely would not be allowed to fence without their masks, *especially* if they were - for some reason - using pointed tips.
Tbf, this is in a school for outcasts, so maybe they use more dangerous instruments as a normal thing. In the original Addams Family, Wednesday and her brother used to light off rockets and grenades for fun. Actually, they do that here too in the scene at the lake.
@@MYFAVORITES5 Yeah I can see them doing that, but not a school allowing it. The world around them should act pretty normal.
I hope Netflix finally got something good to show
Cool scene. Wish they did actual fencing though. Especially since this takes place in modern times. Anyone who does actual fencing doesn't fence like that. Still, cool scene.
Ilove you wednesday and how you were defeated Biancer but you seems Amaizing. (are you a ghost) you dont even blink im just waiting for season 2
Bianca: Finally, a worthy opponent!
Even antagonist deserves to SHINE like Bees!
Okay. This sold me on the show. Gonna finally give it a watch
amazing performance. great fight and dialogues.
You can clearly see how much French and Italian modern fencing is. I presume (maybe wrongly) those matts don’t allow much room for circular movement, meaning there’s 0 destreza in this.
Hey fencing people! Did you noticed the left-handed guy in the background?
Just watched all episodes of Wednesday great I l laughed and cryed alot the best 💋❣️💯
Fencing sabres (the type of sword they were using) don't work like that. They aren't sharp. It's pretty hard to draw blood unless the blade actually breaks. Also... why did they only go to three points? No one does that? A short bout is to 5, a regular bout is 15. And what was up with them wearing épée gear while using sabres? I guess they weren't fencing electric, but their masks would still be the electric kind. And the footwork? Cool looking, but not very good from a technical standpoint. - A fencer
Completely agree with this, other comments seem to like the fencing but it's so inaccurate. but on the electric point, épée masks are cheaper so if you never do electric it would just save money.
@@alexandercowley8090 I have seen hema bouts with those masks and a variety of blade types, with an umpire calling the points. Look up the Lee Smith vs. Richard Marsden video from years ago. Two saber masters and no umpire in an actual training hall.
Absolutely agree. I hate how films always mess fencing up
So excited for season two