In this video, I explain why it's wrong to regard Belgium's so-called 'golden generation' as failures. MUSIC 1. Heaven and Hell · Jeremy Blake 2. Father Kolbe's Preaching (The Truman Show Theme Song)
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Getting close with a team ranked number 1 for years is a failure.
@LorolinAstoriАй бұрын
reaching 3rd place in a WC, beating Brasil and England is no failure. "not winning anything" when it comes to national teams is a lot diferent than clubs, in clubs, you have at least 3 titles to fight for per year, in nationals, you have one in each two years (the confederations and finalissima only exist if you win euro or World cup first).
@frankkkbard0n3154 ай бұрын
They weren't COMPLETE failures as they had 1 SF appearence in the WC. They have literally nothing else. No other WC SFs, no Euro SFs no nothing no nada. They were a dissapointment. And I'm someone who doesn't like "ring culture" and thinks athletes should be proud of coming in 2nd, 3rd etc. They were the "Golden Generation" but the 80s Belgium national team achevied more.
@commodorezero3 күн бұрын
I still find it a waste having that team and not being more competitive, same as Portugal in its last golden generation with figo, rui costa, deco, vitor baia, ricardo carvalho, pauleta, young ronaldo, etc
@JotaFilip5 ай бұрын
Rui costa was a serious baller 🔥 not as good as scholes however
@TheScholesEra5 ай бұрын
I agree with a lot of what you said. Only 2016 and 2022 were disasters. In 2014 Belgium weren't in the conversation for being contenders because they hadn't peaked at that point. 2018 and 2020 were cases of losing to good teams. The only time I predicted them to win something was in 2020
@MattsAttack95 ай бұрын
During 2021 euros One Commentator Said The Winner between Italy and Belgium Will win the whole thing But kdb and hazard were injured So Italy Won the game
@GlobalZone-lx5izz3 ай бұрын
In a competition like the world cup, even the favorite will only have a 20-30% chance of winning the entire thing. Because at the end of the day, every participating team has a theoretical chance of doing that and they have to add up to only 100% somehow. Single leg knockouts are just built to not make the best team win every time. One bad or unlucky match and you're out. Yes, I get that the amount of trophies is regarded as an objective measure of how good a certain team performed within the football community, but 1 (un)lucky goal changes everything and then you could argue that a bad result doesn't make a team bad and this is a notion I completely agree with
@bentenv75245 ай бұрын
In 2018 they could have been world champions if the manager had came up with a better strategy to face France. They were the national team with the most beautiful playstyle back then. Too bad broken relationships among some players and lack of commitment to put every thing that were holding them from being a more cohesive group of people aside affected their performance.
@DTNenforcer5 ай бұрын
They have no plan B
@lexkanyima21954 ай бұрын
I think it truly comes down to the FIFA rankings, as unfair as that is, the best team doesn't always win, but Belgium spent over 4 years being "the best team in the world" and didn't manage to win anything, I definetly agree that looking back at Belgium's history, what they've done is incredible, but i'm not sure if this was their goal when starting this project
@renktalksball5 ай бұрын
People tend to forget that literally any team can lose any match if they're a bit unlucky (hit the woodwork, a certain player has a bad day, the opposition gets a lucky goal, etc) and for a tournament like the world cup, losing 1 match is enough to get knocked out. You definitely have to be a good team to win the tournament but even if you're the favorite to win, you're more likely to not win than to win
@bentenv75245 ай бұрын
Yeah one would think being the best rated team for so long and winning absolutely nothing is the exact reason many people think of them as failures. Some would say it doesn't matter because they were still good at the game but you know it's still a major disappointment
@RainerRilke35 ай бұрын
France 2018 and Spain 2010 denied equally good Belgium and Netherlands WC titles respectively. There's only 1 title and not everyone can win.
@jimmywalker83543 ай бұрын
bro this video is good lol, you need more subs
@Vladiuzs5 ай бұрын
Very interesting, gonna have to return to this one later to fully enjoy it
@he_football5 ай бұрын
I expect we can suceed do something, i want to see KDB Onana Lukaku and trossard
@user-jq2om3xv2rАй бұрын
People seem to forget from where Belgium comes from, I grew up not even realising we had a national team cause we were in no competitions and look now, people need to stay humble and learn the story of a country before criticising
@rendsmachaine187221 күн бұрын
Tbf, Belgium before the 2000's were a very good team. 3rd place at Euro 1972, Final at euro 1980, semi-final at WC 1986. And those teams were less talented than the current ones. So i do understand why people are disappointed tbh.
@deandoesstuff33714 күн бұрын
The problem is the world rankings put more pressure on them. Let's be honest they were never the best team in the world
@MegaTimthemanАй бұрын
For the amount of hype they were getting a first place in euro once should have happened. Though I never believed in them. Lukaku is no van Basten and de Bruyne is no Maradona. The quality was good but not absolute top notch.
@miay18385 ай бұрын
Arguably Bryuine is no worse than Maradona but the game is also far more competitive and well he is injured a lot. Lakaka is so inconsistent and is tototally overshadowed by Lewandowski, Suarez, etc
@elegachi5 ай бұрын
@@elegachiAlright mate, De Bruyne is no worse then Maradona , arguebly the best player to have ever lived. I'm not sure what drugs you on but gimme some of that to
@miay18385 ай бұрын
@@elegachi If you think de bruyne is anywhere near maradona you're on cocaine, just like him 😂
@TheScholesEra5 ай бұрын
Can you do a Worst Teams World Cup? Where you get the 32 Lowest Ranked Countries and Tell Us who you Think will Win?
@jjunbeatable95225 ай бұрын
Maybe at some point if I'm in the mood for that sort of content. But for now I have a lot of other things cooking behind the scenes.
@sebball14 ай бұрын
I mean but expectations can change if you have a great squad than you should have some expectations to succeed even if historicly there weren't any for example like Man City or France any thing but winning everythong is a failure and to not even get to the final is failing
@pheonixblue94343 ай бұрын
Good thesis and assessment my brother
@Planetside2Simon89895 ай бұрын
winning a title require not just strength but luck also. You can say that Belgium has a golden generation but what about France they are also golden. Pogba, Hugo, Varane, and many others are best of the best and in their prime. England 2002 should have won World Cup title too, if not they faced Brazil. If Belgium is a failure, what about some giant country in football world that were not qualified to play in Final tournament count for
@sinsathya556015 күн бұрын
Great video!
@AD7445 ай бұрын
To put things into perspective, people term them as failures as they did not win anything significant, ranking at the top is nothing tangible and will be forgotten years down the road, but a major trophy is different. The players are outstanding individually, but collectively, they did not perform during the big occasions, It is not about Belgium football history, it is about this group of talented individuals, thus to IMHO, they are failure (when comes to trophies).
@dubu0074 ай бұрын
I can never understand why people are such in need of feeling superior when it comes to Belgium, we are a tiny country with multiple cultures within the country itself, the fact we had and still have such a team should be congratulated, I swear football fans can be so fucking stubborn just for some stupid pride or whatever reasons they don’t like Belgium
@rendsmachaine187221 күн бұрын
Eh. We're not "that" tiny. Historically, we should always be competitive and atleast among the top 20 countries in the world. I do agree that winning a trophy is just very difficult and alot of the times, comes down to luck and form.
@deandoesstuff33714 күн бұрын
I don't have a problem with them and they are not failure for themselfs. But stipid FIFA rankings are what makes them failure. You can't spent multiple years on No1 place in the ranking and meanwhile not winning anything ever. Its FIFA to blame, not Belgium. And maybe the media, that is very exadurating on them, similar to England. Those are the failures.
@MihailParshin2 ай бұрын
If scholes was in that belgium team we would've had atleast 3 championships by now.
@TheScholesEra5 ай бұрын
We should have won in 1986. And again against Brazil in 2002 it was fishy has hell.
@Reaktora18 күн бұрын
It would have been 2-1 for Brazil, so Brazil still would have won anyway.
@bygrace73429 күн бұрын
great video
@Dobcik5 ай бұрын
Do you think the formation of a beneliga could help them?
@xh26335 ай бұрын
Definitely. It would give homegrown players a more competitive top flight to develop in. Dutch players would enjoy similar benefits.
@sebball14 ай бұрын
@nationalteamfootballwithse963 maybe the formation of a beneliga could help the Netherlands win the world cup?
@xh26334 ай бұрын
@@xh2633 It would certainly improve their chances, but the impact of a Beneliga should not be overestimated either.
@sebball14 ай бұрын
I agree with you.
@purnendubhowmikshuvropbs73 ай бұрын
I don't think that Belgium will be existed in the next 30 years 🐸
@erenyeager19644 ай бұрын
Nice video
@stoneyhigh05Ай бұрын
Scholes is the greatest midfielder of all time
@TheScholesEra5 ай бұрын
As a fellow united fan No
@masnun1217Ай бұрын
The nederlands is still better
@thomashibma94924 ай бұрын
FIFA world rankings is a joke, and this only proves it.
@blicleak11015 ай бұрын
These rankings calculate a team's rendition over the last 8 years. Belgium's luck was that, when they were Number 1, the other teams that could have challenged them were not as consistent. I mean, if England, Italy, Argentina, Brazil and Germany didn't have lots of highs and lows, Belgium wouldn't have lasted that long
@NIDELLANEUMАй бұрын
Stop the sourness why is it so hard to give props to Belgium ? You must be French
Getting close with a team ranked number 1 for years is a failure.
reaching 3rd place in a WC, beating Brasil and England is no failure. "not winning anything" when it comes to national teams is a lot diferent than clubs, in clubs, you have at least 3 titles to fight for per year, in nationals, you have one in each two years (the confederations and finalissima only exist if you win euro or World cup first).
They weren't COMPLETE failures as they had 1 SF appearence in the WC. They have literally nothing else. No other WC SFs, no Euro SFs no nothing no nada. They were a dissapointment. And I'm someone who doesn't like "ring culture" and thinks athletes should be proud of coming in 2nd, 3rd etc. They were the "Golden Generation" but the 80s Belgium national team achevied more.
I still find it a waste having that team and not being more competitive, same as Portugal in its last golden generation with figo, rui costa, deco, vitor baia, ricardo carvalho, pauleta, young ronaldo, etc
Rui costa was a serious baller 🔥 not as good as scholes however
I agree with a lot of what you said. Only 2016 and 2022 were disasters. In 2014 Belgium weren't in the conversation for being contenders because they hadn't peaked at that point. 2018 and 2020 were cases of losing to good teams. The only time I predicted them to win something was in 2020
During 2021 euros One Commentator Said The Winner between Italy and Belgium Will win the whole thing But kdb and hazard were injured So Italy Won the game
In a competition like the world cup, even the favorite will only have a 20-30% chance of winning the entire thing. Because at the end of the day, every participating team has a theoretical chance of doing that and they have to add up to only 100% somehow. Single leg knockouts are just built to not make the best team win every time. One bad or unlucky match and you're out. Yes, I get that the amount of trophies is regarded as an objective measure of how good a certain team performed within the football community, but 1 (un)lucky goal changes everything and then you could argue that a bad result doesn't make a team bad and this is a notion I completely agree with
In 2018 they could have been world champions if the manager had came up with a better strategy to face France. They were the national team with the most beautiful playstyle back then. Too bad broken relationships among some players and lack of commitment to put every thing that were holding them from being a more cohesive group of people aside affected their performance.
They have no plan B
I think it truly comes down to the FIFA rankings, as unfair as that is, the best team doesn't always win, but Belgium spent over 4 years being "the best team in the world" and didn't manage to win anything, I definetly agree that looking back at Belgium's history, what they've done is incredible, but i'm not sure if this was their goal when starting this project
People tend to forget that literally any team can lose any match if they're a bit unlucky (hit the woodwork, a certain player has a bad day, the opposition gets a lucky goal, etc) and for a tournament like the world cup, losing 1 match is enough to get knocked out. You definitely have to be a good team to win the tournament but even if you're the favorite to win, you're more likely to not win than to win
Yeah one would think being the best rated team for so long and winning absolutely nothing is the exact reason many people think of them as failures. Some would say it doesn't matter because they were still good at the game but you know it's still a major disappointment
France 2018 and Spain 2010 denied equally good Belgium and Netherlands WC titles respectively. There's only 1 title and not everyone can win.
bro this video is good lol, you need more subs
Very interesting, gonna have to return to this one later to fully enjoy it
I expect we can suceed do something, i want to see KDB Onana Lukaku and trossard
People seem to forget from where Belgium comes from, I grew up not even realising we had a national team cause we were in no competitions and look now, people need to stay humble and learn the story of a country before criticising
Tbf, Belgium before the 2000's were a very good team. 3rd place at Euro 1972, Final at euro 1980, semi-final at WC 1986. And those teams were less talented than the current ones. So i do understand why people are disappointed tbh.
The problem is the world rankings put more pressure on them. Let's be honest they were never the best team in the world
For the amount of hype they were getting a first place in euro once should have happened. Though I never believed in them. Lukaku is no van Basten and de Bruyne is no Maradona. The quality was good but not absolute top notch.
Arguably Bryuine is no worse than Maradona but the game is also far more competitive and well he is injured a lot. Lakaka is so inconsistent and is tototally overshadowed by Lewandowski, Suarez, etc
@@elegachiAlright mate, De Bruyne is no worse then Maradona , arguebly the best player to have ever lived. I'm not sure what drugs you on but gimme some of that to
@@elegachi If you think de bruyne is anywhere near maradona you're on cocaine, just like him 😂
Can you do a Worst Teams World Cup? Where you get the 32 Lowest Ranked Countries and Tell Us who you Think will Win?
Maybe at some point if I'm in the mood for that sort of content. But for now I have a lot of other things cooking behind the scenes.
I mean but expectations can change if you have a great squad than you should have some expectations to succeed even if historicly there weren't any for example like Man City or France any thing but winning everythong is a failure and to not even get to the final is failing
Good thesis and assessment my brother
winning a title require not just strength but luck also. You can say that Belgium has a golden generation but what about France they are also golden. Pogba, Hugo, Varane, and many others are best of the best and in their prime. England 2002 should have won World Cup title too, if not they faced Brazil. If Belgium is a failure, what about some giant country in football world that were not qualified to play in Final tournament count for
Great video!
To put things into perspective, people term them as failures as they did not win anything significant, ranking at the top is nothing tangible and will be forgotten years down the road, but a major trophy is different. The players are outstanding individually, but collectively, they did not perform during the big occasions, It is not about Belgium football history, it is about this group of talented individuals, thus to IMHO, they are failure (when comes to trophies).
I can never understand why people are such in need of feeling superior when it comes to Belgium, we are a tiny country with multiple cultures within the country itself, the fact we had and still have such a team should be congratulated, I swear football fans can be so fucking stubborn just for some stupid pride or whatever reasons they don’t like Belgium
Eh. We're not "that" tiny. Historically, we should always be competitive and atleast among the top 20 countries in the world. I do agree that winning a trophy is just very difficult and alot of the times, comes down to luck and form.
I don't have a problem with them and they are not failure for themselfs. But stipid FIFA rankings are what makes them failure. You can't spent multiple years on No1 place in the ranking and meanwhile not winning anything ever. Its FIFA to blame, not Belgium. And maybe the media, that is very exadurating on them, similar to England. Those are the failures.
If scholes was in that belgium team we would've had atleast 3 championships by now.
We should have won in 1986. And again against Brazil in 2002 it was fishy has hell.
It would have been 2-1 for Brazil, so Brazil still would have won anyway.
great video
Do you think the formation of a beneliga could help them?
Definitely. It would give homegrown players a more competitive top flight to develop in. Dutch players would enjoy similar benefits.
@nationalteamfootballwithse963 maybe the formation of a beneliga could help the Netherlands win the world cup?
@@xh2633 It would certainly improve their chances, but the impact of a Beneliga should not be overestimated either.
I agree with you.
I don't think that Belgium will be existed in the next 30 years 🐸
Nice video
Scholes is the greatest midfielder of all time
As a fellow united fan No
The nederlands is still better
FIFA world rankings is a joke, and this only proves it.
These rankings calculate a team's rendition over the last 8 years. Belgium's luck was that, when they were Number 1, the other teams that could have challenged them were not as consistent. I mean, if England, Italy, Argentina, Brazil and Germany didn't have lots of highs and lows, Belgium wouldn't have lasted that long
Stop the sourness why is it so hard to give props to Belgium ? You must be French