These bonafide box office duds still led to another movie.
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"There was a FIREFIGHT!"
“ 6 guys…no no no. 1 guy with 6 guns!”
"Why don't you let me do the thinking, huh, genius."
Rule of thumb? Can't do much with that, can ya? Shoulda been the rule of wrist.
The quotes could go on forever. Such a great film and amazing cast!
Catch ya on the flip side.
The boondock saints was absolutely great. Based on the cult following of that movie, I personally introduced at least 10 people to the film. That's why it got a sequel, even if was subpar.
Yeah that was a great time in my life, introducing people to that film :)
At this point I'd be happy with a comic or novel concluding Del Toro's Hellboy story
Boondocks Saints is a fucking classic!
So their argument is.............. it did not make HUGE MONEY in projector rooms and ONLY made like 9x its budget in the end.
@@Iansco1they put the brakes on it cuz of columbine. It was never shown in theaters at the time because of it.
I was like you once.
@@ericgaskins571 I know. Yet overall, like clerks, it made massive money later.
@@Iansco1 Except it didn`t, including its sub $500k international cinema haul..it took maybe $50 million in DVD sales. Given the relative percentages the studio only saw 3x its budget in returns...its the strange case of a "Cult classic" that really didn`t do well in the cinema,DVD or streaming but has a very vocal though HEAVILY American/Irish slanted fanbase.
Highlander - There should be only one! Hellboy - I still want another movie with Perlman!
They are remaking Highlander with Henry Cavill
Some of these movies were produced because there were enough fans in the right places to make it happen, Hollywood people were once movie fans too.
You hit it right on the nose. “Were once”…no such fans currently occupy the big shot-calling seats.
"What possible sense is there in a studio greenlighting a second film when nobody turned up for the first?" Ask Disney, they've been doing it for years.
Tax write-offs, that's why. Warner Bros are experts at it.
@@flyawaytodieThe tax write off loophole should be closed.
@@flyawaytodie That's only part of it. The real reason is to spread "The Message" in order to program the population. Hollyweird is much more than mere entertainment.
Eddie and the Cruisers (1983) was a box-office flop but eventually became a cult classic on cable TV which lead to a sequel nearly six years later
I never saw the sequel because it should never have had a sequel.
there was a sequel?
@@ranwolf1240 Yeah, but it bombed. Mainly because it was pulled from theaters after one week.
What ever happened to Michael Paré?
@@christopherpoplarchik2802 Still acting, mostly B-movies, direct to video and TV movies.
The Boondock Saints is a favorite in our household. Absolutely love it still hoping they make a third one.
It seems like a smaller budget movie that would be under the radar for this kind of criticism
Loved the Riddick films. I’ll definitely see the fourth.
I missed Kenneth Branagh's 1st 2 Poirot films. (What can I say, I don't get out to the movies much.) But, when a friend told me about the 3rd, I WENT!!! And it was the BEST film I'd seen in theatres in several years. In addition, the last time I actually saw an Agatha Christie movie in a theatre was 1988's APPOINTMENT WITH DEATH with Peter Ustinov-- and A HAUNTING IN VENICE was WAYYYY better than that!!! Wow.
Guessing you're a poirot fan? David Suchet is my all time personal fave 👍The first Branagh film was awesome. The 2nd was ok, not great...imo. Both are worth checking out if you haven't yet
I enjoyed ALL three KB’s Poirot movies. I also liked Ustinov’s version. I loved “Evil Under the Sun” when I was a kid.
I loved boondocks saints! I'm still waiting for the 3rd lol
Boondock Saints and Highlander??? HOW DARE YOU!!!
Yeah totally questionable, I think included just to get comments.
@@nevyn_karres They had several movies that didn't do well because of extenuating circumstances. This wasn't a "movies that got sequels that shouldn't have gotten them," it was "that somehow got them." They explained why they didn't do well and why they figured the sequels would do better.
@@jonmendelson1104 Yeah ok, you are right, I was being too defensive :)
I loved the Riddick movies.
What about Baby Geniuses? That was up there with Wild Wild West, only the latter didn't gross below $100m whereas Baby Geniuses never even reached the $100m mark.
In the case of the Boondock Saints how did it do in UK/Ireland and Europe? Just curious
Not sure about Ireland, but the UK and Europe didn`t notice it, It made more in the 5 US cinemas it was shown in than those countries where it didn`t get pulled, it didn`t do much better on the DVD/home rental market and its not done well in the streaming arena either. Lets be honest saints was aimed at the American-Irish demographic, it was never going to do well outside it.
That first Boondock Saints movie is an excellent film, but the sequel isn’t very good. It really didn’t need any sequels
I did like parts of the second one, but could have still lived without it.
I like both of them. There's some....goofy stuff in both. But both worth being made.
I loved BDS in 2000. Rewatching it now? I cringe at how pretentious this movie is. Don’t get me started on how much the sequel insults your intelligence. Troy is a true hack.
Agreed. Idk how to explain it but the second one just had to much high quality? If that makes sense. I know quality evolves over time but there was just something about it that the first didn't have.
The boondocks saints was fucking great. I remember that Era of independent films being great, the boondocks saints, Donnie darko, American psycho, even usual suspects were all classics.
Love the new blade runner and the boondock saints movies
No you don’t
But some forget that in the eighties, if the lower budget movies didnt do well in the cinema, they could bring in alot in the renting market.
If you don't like Boondock Saints I don't want to be friends...or Highlander. Or TripleX.
Boondock Saints was phenomenal. However, keep nostalgia out of the equation, and it's painfully obvious that XXX and Highlander are awful and do not hold up. Fortunately I don't need anymore friends. 😅
Can’t stand that movie. Sorry bro
@@tjhooker824 Which one? Regardless, you're wrong....But that's okay.
@@bigchas77ify All of them are great (with some goofy stuff), and nostalgia is a factor in everything. And I don't want friends anyway...We can agree to disagree though.
@@whateverwhatever4026 well i couldn’t stand the first one. No it doesn’t mean I’m wrong or you’re right. I just didn’t like it. I thought it was boring and pointless
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Star Trek Discovery/Star Trek Picard although season 3 was the best fan service ever!
'Life & Beth' (Amy Schumer's "comedy") I don't get it. 2 seaaons already 🙄
That fact that Snake Eye made 40mil is astounding to me
Boondock Saints will always be one of my favourite films. Even walked down the aisle to the Blood of Cu Chulainn - not sure my mum was happy when we finally watched it together this christmas just gone and she realised what the film was about :D she thought it was about sports...
I rewatch the first boondock saints movie regularly
G.I. Joe Rise of Cobra was the last movie I saw in theaters
Limiting a movies release because of unrelated world events is the stupidest thing ive ever heard of. Boondock Saints in an awesome movie that deserved way better than FIVE cinemas
It was only limited in the USA, it wasn`t worldwide..and it STILL TANKED. Its a terrible movie.
Highlander did give us one of the best lines in The Goldbergs when one of the boys wanted to set up another Highlander club as his original one was over-jocked so he asked the teacher (played by Clancy Brown) if he could set up another one to which the teacher awesomely replied....
How can any movie staring Christopher Lambert or Sean Connery OR Harrison Ford suck? I think the Kong and Godzilla movies are fun. They don't need to be deep. I didn't think del Torro could make a bad movie.
Your first question can be answered with: Highlander 2: The Quickening
Watch the 2003 documentary Overnight if you really want to know why The Boondock Saints flopped hard theatrically.
some of these movies are often played in my household. My bro love Terminator Salvation and Genisis, xXx, Riddick. My mate loves the Hellboy series and I'm a huge fan of the monsterverse where Kong shows up. No offense to Godzilla fans, he's great to, but I did only watch Monarch for Kurt and Wyatt Russell and that series just filled me with joy and a love for the monsterverse.
ok some of these movies was a great movie, and some just suxed, GI Joe was just bad all around, the second one was better but it did not even feel like GI Joe. Some times they just need to stop making sequels when they start to get crazy, like the FF, Terminator, and Aliens franchise. Terminator, and Aliens was great in the first 2 movies than their quality went down hill, Fast and the Furious was a great movie, than it went down hill. They keep trying to get something and keeps getting ridiculous with each movie going forward. I mean racing out of a space ship in cars?
Boondock Saints is an absolute cult classic that was awesome. Introduced my gf to it and she loved everything about it.
I remember way back when I first heard that they were making a Resident Evil sequel. I was like "Huh? I didn't think the first one was worth warranting a sequel." Now, here we are, 5 sequels and a reboot later, and I still dont think the first justified a sequel. I guess the built-in RE fanbase kept it alive. If Blade Runner and 2049 are in here, you can say the same about The Shining and Doctor Sleep. Both didn't do well when they came out. I'm also surprised Pacific Rim got a sequel. I mean, I loved it, and it didn't exactly "bomb," but it barely spent any time at the theater. Just too bad about the sequel that we got Looking forward to the Transformers/GI Joe crossover. Rise of the Beasts was pretty solid and I'd like to see more Joe done right
It's long past due that we need to stop using terms like 'box office profits' and similar misleading terms. The days of movies making all or most of their money in theaters has been over for a while. The Boondock Saints segment of this video is a perfect example. It cost 6 million to make but only brought in 30,000 in the theaters, therefore it was the worst flop? It made over 50 million outside of theaters......that's a complete success based on it's budget. "Box office' is a term like Blockbuster video, it's no longer relevant to the topic being discussed.
7:51 - I'm pretty sure that _"joke"_ just made me throw up in my mouth a little bit hahaha
Maybe, but just maybe some people actually just want to make the movie they want to make and do not care that much about the money.
Boondocks Saints wasn’t a flop. Neither was Highlander. Neither was Hellboy.
I love Boondock Saints. That's a genuinely good movie. The sequel is okay, but the original is fantastic.
“Franchise Viagra” lacks the ease off the tongue of “The Rock,” but comes with the virtue of pleasingly on-the-nose accuracy and startling visual imagery. 9/10.
Sad some of these movies got a sequel, but movies like the A-team, will never get one.
Calling Boondock Saints a flop is pure blasphemy
When MacLeod said, “There can be only one,” the studio should have listened. That said, I am somewhat excited about the Henry Cavill remake.
I love the boondock saints hahah classic
How does Boondocks Saints make it on this list of “flops”. It had a budget of like 10k and became an instant cult classic. Don’t even think it was in theaters.
"Death on the Nile" (20th Century Fox, 2022) "Godzilla: King of the Monsters" (Warner Bros., 2019) "Highlander" (20th Century Fox, ) "Terminator Salvation" (Sony Pictures, 2009) "Blade Runner" (Warner Bros.,1982) "XXX: State of the Union" (Sony Pictures, 2002) "The Boondock Saints" (Indican Pictures, 1992) "Hellboy." (Sony Pictures) "The Chronicles of Riddick" (Universal Pictures, ) "G.I. Joe: The Rise of Cobra" (Paramount, 2009)
There have been five Hellboy movie released not there. The cast from the first two returner for two animated movies. Rise of Cobra was itself a reboot and Transformers has been doing crossovers with GI Joe for decades.
I love the Boondock Saints.
Calling The Boondock Saints a flop is doing both movie history and the reason why it got such a limited theatrical release a great disservice, if it's due to ignorance then do better but if it's due to neglect then stop doing at all because people that callous who willingly spread misinformation do not deserve a platform. The movie was boycotted and still became a huge success despite the "higher powers" trying to cancel it because it's a great movie, hence why it made total sense for there to be a sequel. Really don't take a genius nor an amount of significant research to know this but being a channel that attempts to share (or even alter it seems) the history of movies there's no way you didn't know what happened to this movie in particular and why calling it a flop is inherently a calculated error given that you're well aware that its release was sabotaged from the start.
Don't forget, Zoolander (2001) got a sequel 15 years later after the first one did terrible. No surprise, Zoolander 2 was a big box office bomb.
Tim Miller and McG did a much better job as directors in TERMINATOR than Alan Taylor Who was just a director for hire
Blade runner 2049 was amazing though
Terminator I feel is a bit of a far reach didn't they choose to "Reboot" the Franchise with the next one and kind of create a new "Timeline"?
plus none of the terminator films really flopped until dark fate. genisys still made $450million worldwide against a $150million budget. they underperformed but didn't really hit flop levels of underperformance.
These examples move the goalposts a little, no? Boondock Saints was from that weird period where a few ambitious films with bankable actors went directly to DVD, so it didn’t get the theatrical release to fetch the box office cash. Terminator and Godzilla are major franchises, so studios aren’t dissuaded because of one flop entry. The Highlander is a little odd. It flopped initially, but was a sleeper hit in home video and cable reruns. That’s not the unusual part, though. A few films have gotten sequels based on the strength of post box office success. 1980s and 90s franchises typically got sequels until they ran out of gas. The odd thing about Highlander is that usually sequels from that time got made, but studios would shave the budgets till law of diminishing returns caught up and audiences ignored them. Highlander sequels got bigger budgets than the first one despite unenthusiastic gate receipts. Or at least it sounds odd. But then , a “flop” or “bad movie” can make more money long term than a hit. The reported return doesn’t always parse out home video, tv replays, overseas tv, merchandise licensing, and streaming platform leases. All of which don’t dump a fast bundle of cash, but the nickels and dimes add up.
👍 Riddick ⚒️
What am I missing to understand how a movie that costs $31 million and nets $42 million is considered a flop?
I think it also costs quite a bit to advertise the movie.
A film usually has to make roughly two and a half times it budget in order to turn a profit.
Movie costs £31 Million, then you have advertising budget ontop of that to get your total actual budget. When they quote "takes XXX on release" that is how much the CINEMAS took, the Studio only sees about 40-60% of the ticket price. So the movie took $42 million the studio probably only saw $25 Million, it will make more on DVD sales..about 40% of the quoted home market sales and more on streaming/syndication but the money and percentages drop quite significantly. On the plus side the studio can hope to make some extra money through merchandising...Starwars only made $2 Billion at the box office, the merchandising total current stands somewhere around $32 Billion. As @System_Retro correctly states..for cinematic release the standard ratio is 2.5 the stated budget to allow for the above.
thumbs down just because how you worded this list shouldnt have said somehow
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The only Godzilla movie I saw was the one a friend dragged me to, it was awful, hint: the year was 1998 lol 🤪 (perhaps there's some on MST3K that I hace yet to see) Highlander is the only good one and I have the director's cut on blu ray, hard to believe it flopped, but then I was only three in 1986. I'm not a fan of the two films that followed, and I didn't even watch anymore after that I haven't seen Salvation or Genisys, but I thought Dark Fate was better than Rise of the Machines, but I understand why people hate it for killing off John Conner. I do have the extended special edition of Judgment Day with the original ending wrapping everything up, I'm a bit surprised that people hating anything afrer don't just stuck with that I enjoyed the Blade Runner flicks, I even saw the second film at the theater, for the first film my introduction was VHS My brother showed me Boondock Saints, it has Indiana Jones (Sean Patrick Flannery), but I haven't seen the sequel I enjoyed both Hellboy movies, so if the sequel didn't do too well on video, well how is a remake a better chance to take than another sequel I enjoyed Riddick more than Chronicles of Riddick, and I just love Katee Sackhoff 😍, "So Say We All" So if a flop gets a sequel, is the sequel ever contractually obligated, "a contract is a contract!" Can a director sue a studio for a contract breach Hey do movie flops ever make more than hits, or does that only work on Broadway 🤔 (The Producers reference)
I saw Murder On the Orient Express and I was bored. So I was surprised when Death On the Nile was made.
3:50 They should have NEVER made a sequel to "The Highlander" -- In their own words: "There can be only one!"
I actually gave up on Death on the Nile but did enjoy the Venice movie mainly because it had such style
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9 out of 10 of these movies, I genuinely had a blast watching the first outings. Loved them and would/have watched again. In most cases, the sequels were a lot of fun as well, so I appreciate them kicking off even if they didn't do well money wise. We don't talk about GI Joe.
Godzilla Vs Kong did better probably because you could see the monsters better, in previous entries they either only came out at night or were shrouded in fog, its almost as if they tried to save on SFX budget by hiding them.
Hellboy The Cricket Fan! Had to rewind that a few times to catch the correct title.
Seriously? The pandemic in Feb 22? Did they forget about Spider-Man?
This constant tell of "the movie, shot on a $200 Million budget, only grossed $380 Million, sentencing it to be a failure" business, is such rubbish. Everyone got paid, and there was a profit. Why and how are these a failure, in any sense of the concept?
Just want to say that I HATE the new format of abrupt endings without Thanks and Goodbye.
Depends on how you define "flop" I guess. Achieving cult classic status and having a really strong fanbase is still pretty cool, even if a film didn't make loads in the first weekend in the cinema...
Blade Runner and Blade runner 2 both deserved better box office wise. Both movies are masterpieces in film making. Half the problem with the second movie is, who has even watched the first movie, it ain't a pop corn slick action flick, its niche neo noir cyberpunk.
How about successful franchises overdue for a sequel?
With the exception of Hellboy which I saw all 3 Hellboys in the theater including the David Harbor one I didn't see any of these movies in the theater But I have watched everyone of these movies there is something to say for streaming services/cable/DVD and I think some of the really Good movies that flobbed last year like Renfeld, Dungeons and dragons and Haunted Mansion would be Good to make Sequels but put them on streaming services/cable/DVD at least that's what I would like to see happen 🙂
How did highlander cost $19M in 1986! That's the same budget as BTTF
the very first one. it's strange to me you think it's a surprise. the first one made 7 times it's budget, then they screwed up and crippled the budget. so it was a no brainer to go back to the roots and do a lower budget. then you added a bunch of reasons the sequel struggled. so I'm surprise you think it was a surprise
I've only seen the Boondock Saints 2 which was gloriously shite...may have to watch the first. But I'm more interested in that documentary about the director during the making of it
Thanks!
Blade runner 2049 was so good. It's sad that it's considered a flop
The Highlander sequels were great comedies.
Snake eyes failed because it was about an asian guys childhood instead of the title character, in the cartoon and comics we dont even know what he looks like, straight pandering to china. so noonr was interested.
"You won't know until u try"
Anyone who thinks "2049" is a better film than the original "Blade Runner" needs to have their head examined. Also, "Boondock Saints" is crrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrAP!
These new Godzilla movies have to much of a weird stories.
I went to see Snake Eyes at the cinema 2 days after it was released and I was the only person there.
Although one thing I thought was really cool was after they ended the Adrian Paul Highlander series Duncan MacLeod Adrian Paul lives in Colorado and teaches sword Play classes not fencing but actual sword combat like all the stuff he did in Highlander and all the other actual sword movies not a fencing he does all of it and he teaches sword Play not fencing classes and what's funny is you got to wonder how many times one of his students is like there can be only one and of course he'd probably respond with oh s*** not again
"...that isn't how money is made...". True, however it is how money is laundered. Also, came here for R.I.P.D. - was disappointed.
I don't know if anyone else watches KZhead videos with the captioning on. I have a small child and a big dog and sometimes that's the only way to know what is being said. But I'm curious. Why isn't anyone double checking? I don't know if they are auto generated or if it is a person. But either way, QA at What Culture should really be paying attention! @5:35
How about movies that didn't need a reboot? Movies where the reboot is better than the original?
I honestly thought King of the Monsters was the best Godzilla film in the series
I love the Riddick movies.
I would like to get more Poirot movies.
I still want my money back for highlander 2.
"10 Flop Movies That Somehow Got Sequels" #6: Blade Runner *Proceeds to explain EXACTLY why Blade Runner got a sequel*
Thanks ellie for pronouncing guillermo right
I'm sorry Whatculture but someone has to call you out on this, were you guys living under a rock when The Boondock Saints was released?, everyone loved it, so I don't think it fits into the category of a flop, the sequel wasn't perfect and it wasn't as good as the first one but even it was pretty good
Genesys is not a sequel to Salvation. when your list breaks its own premise this early maybe just don't instead.
The only three Terminator movies Terminator Terminator 2 judgment Day and dark fate rise and salvation were complete garbage but Geneashit was so horrible they made those two look pretty damn good
$387 Million is a flop?? i'm pretty sure i'd be happy if anything i did brought in $387 million... granted i don't have the $200 million to start it off, but if somebody will give the the $387 million in advance i'll certainly give it a try.
Making $387 million at the box office doesn't mean the producers took home that much. They get 40-60% of the box office take depending on what country and how long it's been in theaters. They will only get around 25% of the China box office as well. The 200 million doesn't include marketing either which could be 75-100 million. So yeah, it would be considered a flop.
Ellie should do all their videos.
They put boondocks in 5 theaters. So basically they didnt release it in theaters. I remember those dark days. They blamed everything on marylin manson and gun laws. Meanwhile the parents walked right by those two animals as they made pipe bombs in their garage. Should have put them in jail
It was released internationally..and didn`t do any better...don`t have that excuse for the rest of the world.
Murder., Death, and a haunting in Venice were all decent films.