Hypercarry? High SPD? Robin or Ruan Mei? | Ask Guoba: Robin
Today Guoba Certified answers questions all about Robin, our newest Harmony unit in Honkai: Star Rail! Things like hypercarry Robin, high SPD Robin, and Robin or Ruan Mei. I go through in depth mechanics and in depth discussion on pull value, and I hope it helps someone. This is all on the Creator Experience server so things may be subject to change. Like, sub, and share if this helped!
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00:00 Introduction
00:38 Should you Pull Robin?
01:45 High Speed Robin?
02:31 Breakpoint Problems on a Good Breakpoint
04:39 180 Vonwacq?
05:05 How frequently should you Ult?
05:38 Robin Ratio Aventurine Topaz Team
08:32 Robin outside of Follow Up?
09:04 Clara Robin
09:45 Jing Yuan Robin
10:10 March Robin
10:41 Light Cones again
11:21 Robin or Ruan Mei again
12:04 Robin AND Ruan Mei?
12:40 Bonus Concerto Mechanics
14:08 HYPERCARRY ROBIN?
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HOPE THAT CLEARS UP SOME INFORMATION AND IF YOUR QUESTION WASNT ANSWERED IN 2 VIDS IM SORRY ( WILL BE ANSWERING SOME UNANSWERED ONES IN COMMENTS ) Also as I've stated in the vid a couple times: Other's opinions, testing, results are important too. I answered questions but it doesn't mean it's 100% truthful to your situation or perfect testing. NOTES:
I have a question, what's your favorite game series outside of Honkai/Hoyoverse games?
@@jackjohnson8305 played AC since the first one, so I'd say that but not the biggest fan of most of the new ones
who is better for acheron? ruan mei or robin? I'm waiting for ruan mei rerun but if robin is better for acheron then I'd pull for her.
@@guobacertified I'd have to agree, it pretty much fell off as soon as they killed off Desmond.
@@guobacertified any genre you enjoy? Rpgs apparently have elements you enjoy+
I pull because I desire every harmony in the universe. No one is gonna stop me.
I will stop you from doing so.
RUN, DARKNESSFLAME IS HERE
@@darknessflame8826I like to see you try.
@@FlareSouL Challenge...accepted...
@@FlareSouLHe's inside your walls
Ong not even watching this for Robin.. I wanna see bro dressed up as each character
Robin is literally the easiest harmony to build. She only needs correct main stats and a little spd, which is far easier to get than say Ruan Mei or Sparkle. I think this is a good point that was not mentioned.
even high invest Ruan mei doesnt need much maybe s5 cogs or if you have s3+ memories other than that correct main stats +defensive ones and some spd to hit a certain breakpoint and as much BE as possible but one of her best relics is already a Echo of war set so u might very like have a lot of great pieces already
robin prefers battery supports/Lcs because her ULT is so expensive
It was basically mentioned in the OG video
@@Lubiaa "x character doesn't need much" _proceeds to yap_
i never had issue building any harmony unit in this game, they are easy to build period
"if you have all three 5* harmony characters you don't need Robin" this is the best thing my ears and wallet have heard. Thanks for putting it at the start ❤
We gotta catch them all, your wallet is motivated 😂
I only got One that's Bronya. Then what should my wallet do?
@@The_Master_Chief338 Your wallet should cry. But in all honesty, Robin is a must if you are considering boosting your Dr. Ratio team to perfection. Besides that she is just a nice harmony unit, not broken, not weak, just nice. You gotta consider the things your account lacks.
He's bouncing off my certify I like the way he guobs. I can hardly breathe when he guoba certifies. I watch his videos and then i watch his singing streams Call him "guoba" while i holler, man, that boy so damn certified
He's bouncing off my certify I like the way he guobs. I can hardly breathe when he guoba certifies. I watch his videos and then i watch his singing streams Call him "guoba" while i holler, man, that boy so damn certified
what the fuck
What were you on when you wrote this man 😭😭
Rage Against The Machines: Testify, but testify is swaped to certified/certify.
BRO XD
Mayhe Guoba Certified "Welcome to my World" Cover at 100k subs?!?
:O
Sway to my Beat in Cosmos
Pls no more CCs tryna sing 😔 it's so cringe
Let's just have an edit where we completely replace Robin by Cosplay Guoba with the original song rolling while doing the same animations 😂
Best guide so far? The two vids cove pretty much everything. 10/10!
glad you enjoyed them :)
OMG Ask Zajef Star Rail version, i was waiting for Guoba to start this
I did a couple way back with Lunae Fu Xuan, but couldnt find the time or motivation to do more since I felt repetitive. With more and more units and modes and mechanics, and more community questions, I have a better variety of questions and these vids are fun to do. So we'll see if it continues ^^
5:39 Oh my god. Thank you for this because my heart tells me I need (& want) Robin but my account says it needs Topaz. I actually pulled for Aventurine because he's great.
Glad it helped :)
The only guidemaker Im watching, because you back up your answers with numbers. Thanks
I love the format and layout of your videos. They’re all very detailed and specific❤
If you played from the start and invested into meta supports and sustain the question really becomes who you want to support specifically. I pulled Aventurine for Acheron (partially because my quest for additional Eidolons for her failed), because after trying out several I found his sustain more comfy and the stacks he adds to her ultimate counter.
Agree, I pulled Luocha for Blade, and Sparkle for JY. One support that I don;t know whose for was only RM. I only got her cuz of design and kits that seems universal enough even tho I don;t play DoT and know nothing about Break meta at that time. But no way I regret having her now.
@@kmh4076future you saying you did good for firefly.
@@neoikake thanks brother, I hope to get her in this 50/50 early 😅😅
158 SPD with Vonwacq and her Technique guarantees 7 actions (E-QB-Q-E-Q-Q-EB) in 4 cycles, for a total of 2 Bursts: you can get 160 Energy on her second action on Cycle 0 if you attack with the other three units before her second action takes place (you need at least 120 SPD on each of them in order to do so), then the second Burst can mathematically be available on her last action, just a bit before 450 AV, but you can only benefit from the instant action advance, instead of the full Burst duration, as the cycle ends immediately after. I advise >134 SPD damage dealers in order to actually benefit from her first Burst's action advance. In the end, the built-in +25% action advance on the start of the battle and the +40% provided by Vonwacq do not compensate the 90 SPD window she has on her first Burst, making it so that you actually need 158 SPD (157.8... to be more precise) instead of 156 to have 7 actions in four cycles (that is, before the end of Cycle 3). I either suggest everyone interested in building her to either get as much Attack as possible, neglecting SPD past 120, to deal a lot of damage during the sole Burst you are getting in the span of four cycles (you may get a second one if you spam E, but your SP economy might not be able to sustain that), or to farm in order to achieve 158 SPD on Vonwacq: a major difference between these two builds is going to be survivability stats' distribution, as you want as much Atk% subrolls as possible with the latter, while you can welcome Hp% and Def% with the first, simce you do not need SPD boots at all (even ERR rope might be optional). EDIT - One more thing: you need exactly 158 SPD on her; I have not calculated with 159, but even that should be too much, making her faster than your 134 SPD damage dealer on their last action (near 450 AV), wasting the purpose of her Burst's action advance, reason for which I advise >134 SPD. I have not calculated the ideal SPD for your dmg dealers, but the more the better (no need to go past 143, though, I presume)
Love your vids Guoba! Thank you for always providing quality information in an easily digestible format 🔥
Is it weird that I just love watching Guoba costumes each video? The effort that goes into creating them is so appreciated. ☺️
Good video, I had two questions in mind and you asked both of them. Thanks!
He learned how to pronounce concerto :) but fr your guides have been so helpful as a relatively new player (got into the game in 2.0) and I'm definitely praying for the RNG to pull Robin *and* Topaz with my f2p pulls (Robin first tho)
CON CHAIR TOE
new guoba video let's go! Robin seems amazing to be honest, good luck to anyone pulling
Loving the cosplay Guoba for every character. Feels like fun, unique content.
I love this kind of format ❤
I love how he has a skin for every character
This is a good format. The main video is quick and gives an overview. Then a second video is more in depth and deals with specific questions and misconceptions. You might want to keep this 2-video format on future characters. I enjoyed it, and I'm skipping Robin. But for people on the fence, or just hype, this is a good resource.
Thanks for this clarification and guide!!! I finally decided to get Robin on her rerun, for now I’ll save up for Firefly!!! 🥰
Man I've missed out on a lot. I grinded hard for e2s1 Acheron and haven't played since. Burnt out HARD. I'll probably pick the game back up by the fall. thanks for keepin us up to date.
This video was once again so helpful. Feels good not feeling like I NEED her light cone, since I have Bronyas.
As always, Guoba comes to our rescue. Ty for all ur work!
I literally only have Bronya and I love Robin's design, but I gotta stay strong for Boothill 😭See you next rerun, Robin
Thank you guoba for helping with this guide while we wait for 2.2
Ty for the hypercarry robin, that was everything I needed
have been thinking I should try getting topaz but this helped me decide. i have bronya, ruan mei & aventurine e0s1 + sparkle e2s1 so topaz is definitely the way to go. wish me luck on winning my 5050 🙏
cant wait for to get Robin for my RAT team and future follow-up synergy. Also definitely looking forward to Robin slaying in the story for 2.2 Penacony. Thanks for the comprehensive Q&A on these Robin mechanics!
Cant wait for 2.2 Story!
RAT team all the way, imma grab Robin E1S1 and Topaz's E1. After that Jade will be the next addition to our collection.
@@_TheStormThatIsApproaching going whale go for it
i knew from the second i saw Robin i was gonna pull for her, but it’s still nice to learn more about her kit regardless! i was really torn tho ab pulling her light cone or not tho bc i really want to pull Firefly next patch BUT luckily for me i did a 10 pull on the standard banner after the embers shop reset and got a copy of Bronya’s light cone so i’m all set!! 🙌
Hey Guoba. Great vid as always man, you keep putting out quality and you've definitely only gotten better. I've a bit of a silly question. For context, I have E0 Ratio (plan on getting his S1 on his rerun assuming there's nothing else I want then) and E0S1 Aventurine, and I'm good on 5 star harmonies (got em all barring Robin). I know Robin is probably the better, more universal pull but I've wanted Topaz since she came out and had to skip her back then cuz follow-up teams just weren't really a strong team back in 1.4 and I was saving for other stuff. Here's my question. Assuming all goes well and I nab Topaz early (for the sake of argument), should I then try my luck at getting Robin to complete the RRAT team or should I try to get S1 for Topaz? I know Robin is huge and universal, but she'll likely rerun again before Topaz gets her 2nd rerun and I'm more likely to get a cone than a character (it's also why I'm saying S1 and not E1 for Topaz), so I don't mind getting her when she reruns. Likewise, Topaz's cone is good on Ratio so I could even use it on him until he gets his own. I'm a low spender (mostly Express Pass since I don't really need BP anymore) and got other responsibilities so swiping is out of the question. Your thoughts? TL;DR: I have E0S0 Ratio and E0S1 Aventurine and was wondering if I should go for Topaz's LC or Robin if I were to get Topaz at a reasonable amount of pulls.
11:24 I loved listening to its goubin time and he guobined all over everything holy
Thanks a bunch for the guide! Just one more question though, could it be possible to make himeko work instead of topaz in the RRAT team?
I'm going for FuA team with Robin but I don't have Topaz- who are the best replacement to go with Aventurine Ratio and Robin ??
Apologies if this question is slightly off topic, but it relates to characters I plan to run with Robin. I can currently buy a 5star light cone from the shop, and I currently do not own Gepard’s, Bronya’s or Welt’s. I’m contemplating nabbing Gepard’s for March, but I was wondering if the difference between that and the battle pass one or other options for high def/EHR build March’s is worth skipping out on Bronya’s or Welt’s LC. I have e1 Bronya and e3 Welt
I'm one Xueyi away from E6, and I'm really enjoying using her for quantum-weak enemies. So I'm pulling just until I can get either ,or maybe even both Xueyi and Robin in the same 10-pull.
Really excited for Robin dropping and looking forward for the story progression 😤
i really like kafka bs dot would she be able to fit with ruan mei in it with no sustain like you mentioned? i’ve noticed really talks about robin with dot, but i can already clear end game so i just wanna have fun with it now
I have Sparkle, and Ruan Mei, but just the fact that Robin is an "upgrade" on Tingyun, already made me go for her. They have been making pretty appealing harmony characters, I'll tell you that.
I just came back around before sparkle banner about to end and got her luckily, I also pulled aventurine with very bad luck and now only have a little pull enough for 80. I plan on making a 2nd team for FUA which I have Ratio and Aventurine, do I prioritize getting Robin over Topaz? also I'm seeing some comments about Topaz E1, do you really need her to be E1? (I quit the game after JY so I'm missing alot of event banners)
if robin also buff a bit of attack, would you go back to running a elemental damage orb or will you still use an attack orb for the ratio and topaz (RRAT team)? And for topaz, is pioneer better for her or is duke still better?
Thanks for the RRAT team breakdown for what debuff to get. A little late to recommend Adventurine’s LC, but I’m already happy with what I’ve got for him. I’m leaning toward Topaz LC because it’ll (hopefully) cost less
Still doing a RRAT team even without S1 Aventurine, E1S1 Topaz since I prefer not to pull for Light Cones and Eidolons and prefer to pull for units more since it's more fun to have a new unit entirely.
i got e2 bronya and e0 sparkle and im planning on getting ruan mei so i should skip robin in that case?
100% Action forward, when use correctly, can be consider as 20/30 additional energy.
extremely useful video guoba
I am in dillema i have aven and ratio, should i just pull topaz for more dps and just use hanya for multi dmg buff, or pull robin and use other to replace topaz?
I want to build a FuA team, but I only have ratio right now, who is better to get first, topaz or Robin??
Who would you recommend I pull for in the upcoming banners if I've full cleared Pure Fiction, but can only achieve 1 star in MOC floor 12 using these teams: First half - E0 Aventurine with Gepard's signature LC/ E1 Himeko with Argenti's signature and the follow up Relic set/E5S5 Herta with follow up Relic set/E0S1 Ruan Mei. Second half - E0 Gepard with Trend LC/E2S1 Acheron with BiS Relics/E6 Pela with Sweat LC/E0 Sparkle with Bronya's Signature LC. What I've noticed is my first team isn't doing quite enough damage consistently and there are dry spells for follow up procs. And for the second team my Gepard just isn't keeping my team alive even with all recommended stat thresholds met. I can't switch the sustain units because Aventurine has to be with the follow up team, and I can't use Luocha, Bailu, or E6 Gallagher because everything one shots so healing is useless. I think I should go for Fu Xuan to replace Gepard, but I don't know if Robin or Topaz would be better for the first team to free up Aventurine for the second team. Himeko is staying, my goal to be clear is for her and Acheron to be my two primary DPS units.
I think a nice way to explain robin's Concerto state speed stat for the speed requirements is to say that her Concerto stat is like Jingyuan's Lightning Lord without her baing able to increase it herself in any meanigful way. Though that does bring something to mind since in Golden Gears I seem to remember a buff that can action advance even summoned allies, will that effect Robin Concerto state?
Would it be worth to pull her for follow up synergy when I don't have aventurine? i have all 3 harmony.
I've been investing vertically in my RRAT team and I'm so pleased with Robin, she feels so good to play with. I got absurdly lucky with my pulls and managed to pick up E1S1 Robin and another eidolon for my Topaz bringing her up to E2 with only 180 pulls. I'll probably be able to clear 1 side of MoC and likely Apocalyptic Shadow with ease until the game gets sunsetted now. Time to start saving for Jade for my IPC collection, I hope she'll make it so PF isn't such a struggle for me.
thanks!! ill go for topaz then chug any extra pulls on robin in case any luck if not ill simply get ruan mei on her rerun i think its right around the corner :)
Thanks for this guide! I think with this video, I'm about 80/20 in my decision to get Robin. I'm missing Topaz for the RAT core team, but I'm leaning more towards Robin because I only have 1 limited Harmony (Ruan Mei). If ever I get her (I'm on 50/50), my team will be a Ratio Hypercarry of E2S1 Ratio, E0S1 Aventurine, Robin, and E4 Pela with Resolution LC. :)
sounds like a great team :) I did say Pela feels worse but she still works fine ofc and your Ratio should slap anyway ^^
I really want to get Topaz to complete the gang, but I have limited Stellar Jades 😅 so Robin seems to be the better choice at the moment. Also, here's a SUBSCRIBE! Your content has been super helpful. 😉
any opinions on bronya lc vs event lc for rrat team? does the extra err do anything since there's a ton of attacks going out? or should I just save my 600 starlight
What’s your view on hanya working with Robin? Or himeko if you don’t have topaz and Aventurine for the rat team?
I got clara, ratio, xueyi, and blade for follow up (if jade uses follow ups then her too) for characters I can use with robin, is it a worthy pull? I got ruan mei and bronya no sparkle tho
i know this is kind of a dumb question but do you think robin will be equal to Ruin mei on high speed break teams, on one side Ruin mei obviously buffs break and makes it eaiser but on the other 100% AV forward also increases toughness bar damage and the extra damage could be really nice if the break damage wasn't enough to kill, plus this lets you go all out on break stats since robin will buff the atk by a ton.
Thank you for answering my question whether JY will be good with her or not. Since I don't have Sparkle, I will replace Tingyun with Robin (unless I failed 50/50). The energy isn't as big of a problem since I have Huohuo and E4 JY. Thanks guoba! Waiting for that album!
do you think its worth pulling for e1 if i also use her in a dot team for the 24% res pen if i dont have ruan mei?
I'm actually waiting for that album to drop, Guoba. Aight, I'm hitting the bell 🔔
does sparkle cdmg buff increase robin dmg? or is it still fixed even with i combat buffs
would you recommend e0s1 robin for jing yuan over e0s5 dance dance dance sparkle? I rlly like robin and Im desperately trying to find a reason to fit her in really awkward team comps T_T
Here I am running an Acheron, Pela, SW, FX (team 1) and Jingliu, RM, Bronya, HuoHuo (team 2) I think it's time for me to make a follow-up team with Jade and Topaz. Problem is that I don't have enough pulls if I also try to get aventurine now (much worse if I try to get Robin) Thoughts?
I have all harmony units but I'll probably still pull robin since I only have 2 decently built teams(, one of which is Jingliu and the other follow-up. ) and ruan mei is already in jingliu's team. So I also can't use another team without ruan mei in moc (due to lack of teams), which I guess justifies it
Hey Guoba, should I use the 30 pulls worth of Starlight to get the Bronya LC? Or is it not worth it and I should just go for the free event LC? Using the 30 pulls on Robin’s LC is also a possible option in hopes I can probably get it within the 30 pulls
NOT DONE WITH THE VID YET BUT THIS WAS MUCH NEEDED!
oof, i planned on grabbing robin and her LC but i also kinda wanna swap jing yuan with ratio but i need more debuffs to make it worth, and since im running topaz/jing/aventurine/clara rn but would possible shift to topaz/ratio/robin/aventurine, maybe the topaz LC would be more relevant? the only problem is i might just be going for Jade in a month or so anyway... gahhh
My main team is DoT and my second team is Jingliu, both teams have wanted Ruan Mei, I'm messing with fua but it's not fully developed yet . obviously robin for fua if I'm using it but if using the other 2 teams together how would you split the supports?
I don't have ruan mei yet for my jingliu, is it better to pull now on robin?
Was really hoping to get both Aventurine and Topaz, but my Aventurine turned out to be third Clara instead 😭 After hearing your comments on the RRAT comparison, pulling for Topaz just feels bad now. I really wanted to go for FUA but idek if it's worth if with just 2/4 of the characters
So if i have Ratio and Aventurine E0S1, should i pull Robin or Topaz E1S1. I also dont have Ruan Mei
How good is Robin as a 2nd harmony for a hypercarry comp? Let's say the hypercarry in this situation is extremely fast (like 180+) but the team has no FuA. Or am I just better off running bronya? Who probably won't be able to catch up to the carry in speed sadly, but more actions are still great. (I'm already running Ruan mei in the team but I don't have sparkle)
I want people's input on something if i have dr.ratio and adventurine should I pull for robin or go for topaz and wait for rerun??
Is Gallagher worth it as a sustain for the FUA team? They are all E0, so he helps with debuffs for Ratio. I’m using a Break Build with Vonwacq and S5 Multiplication to help out Robin too. Does Topaz lose too much value without Aventurine?
*nichè question* Assume you have auspicious star and Robin's ult is active, the dps kills the enemy but the last hit of the attack is Robin's will robij get the auspicious star buff or the dps?
Do you think that asta would be a good duo support if her and robins ultis line up since 180 speed would be achievable meaning characters could get two turns out of concerto.
somehow the first one answers if im gonna get robin or not, since i have bronya and ruan mei but no sparkle (all e0s0), then suddenly another question saying if she's good outsidefua and seeing dual dps, luckily I don't have blade but have jingliu e0s0 but she's good with hypercarries (and DoTs in the other question in the video) now im really confuse. characters I don't have: welt, clara, yanqing, jing yuan, luocha, blade, sparkle, topaz, aventurine and argenti.
Just subbed, Waiting for the Ultimate song cover btw
i want to ask s1 topaz or robin? i don't have s1 aventurine or e1 topaz so i don't have enough debuffs for ratio. I'm using ruan mei instead at the current moment. (i do have dot so i will have to share her) i really love topaz so i would like to invest but i know robin is so good for FuA and I'm kinda conflicted. side note: i'm on a 50/50 with 10 pity for robin.
This was nice it helped clear up some questions. Im pulling for her since I mainly run Seele,Jingliu and Kafka. I would like to have them all have their own limited 5 star support. I already have Sparkle and Ruan Mei.
I currently am using Clara, Sparkle, Aventurine, and Tingyun. I'm wondering if Robin is a must pull or if I should pull for Topaz for my Clara team.
Hoyo out here giving me dilemmas on who to pull since I'm one of those peeps who pull based on character design or when I can do fun stuff with a character's kit. Robin is mad tempting because I missed Ruan Mei but at the same time they already drip marketed Firefly and she is probably my favorite character in Penacony so far ;-;
I have 190 pulls and need robin and Topaz for the FuA team, is robin's S1 worth to get compared to the f2p version? especially if I have to get Topaz signature for ratio, I'm afraid i'm gonna be short on wishes
Hi, thank you for the video! But I'm still missing a point... when is the ideal moment to use Concerto during battle? Thank you in advance for the answer
Thats answered in visual graphics in the guide. Ideally when all allies have just had their turn to give an instant back to back turn, but it can change
can topaz change to jade?, i'll wait for end of patch / jade kit came out to decide between pull topaz or not
Hello Guoba, what I want to ask if Robin can advance forward Lightning Lord? like if you at 0 cycle left and LL is just onestep after the cycle can Robin ult advance forward it to this cycle?
no
I skipped aventurine, is it okay if i replace him with luocha for the fua team? (topaz,ratio,luocha,robin)
I think it’s OBV Robin > Topaz if you have Ratio and Aventurine, but the questions becomes. Who do you run in lieu of Topaz if you can’t pull them both? Pela and Guinaifen are on my Acheron team. I’ve been using Serval for the fast ult value, the AoE, and the dot. Might swap to Asta for the atk buff, speed, and dot on basic atk. Thoughts?
my friend just started playing and she's in a perfect place to get and build the RRAT team rn
Do you think I should still pull for her if I already have rm sparkle and bronya?
Great video, thanks!
whats better, E5 S1 Bronya + E1 S1 Topaz or E0 Robin S0 + E0 S1 Topaz ? i just cant really grasp yet how much she improves follow up and I just wanna get the best possible upgrade for my Topaz
What about Robin vs harmony TB? Is the TB good enough to skip Robin and save for 2.3?
To be honest I'm considering running literally the RRAT team but instead of Ratio I use my E3 Clara, so I got Robin Penacony set. I also got a god pull and have E1 Aventurine by accident. Am I insane? I dunno. I think it's fine though?
F2P to small spender here. Given my situation (E0S0 Avent and Topaz. E1S0 RM) Rolling for Topaz E1/S1 over a copy of Robin?
Got my robin and ratio but not aventurine, should I aim for topaz for an okay-ish FUA team?