He Keeps Bucking her Off! Is It a Leadership issue?
2024 ж. 25 Сәу.
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In this video, horse trainer, Ryan Rose works a horse who is spooky on the trail riding, buck's under saddle, refuses things, and challenges his owner. Ryan works with him using psychology, ground work, and good horsemanship to help her create a partnership ship with him.
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I'm amazed by this women's vulnerability in this video. She is modelng a learners mindset that is humbling and inspiring.
💯 she was very coachable and that mindset will serve her very well. Awesome lady.
I feel everything this woman is going through in my bones 😂 I’ve loved watching this video and keen to go and make some changes to help my horse and myself thank you!
I agree ,,she is very good/quick at using a new technic,, And i think with the tools Ryan gives her ,she will make a great team with him .❤
100 percent agreed. Sometimes you feel so defeated and insecure. You know what you’re doing isn’t working, and you can’t fake really confidence to your horse-they see through it right away. You have to build up to it, but by then there is history. And it seems that much harder. You want to do right by them, but it’s hard when you’re learning all the management of the stick and string, lead rope, be aware of your body position, be aware of their body, releasing at the right time, trying to be safe, try to be clear, don’t move your feet… it’s a lot to try and remember, let alone execute with a bit of grace. Bravo! Ryan- I am so grateful for your videos, and so grateful to these owners allowing us windows into their own journeys. ❤
This may be a silly comment, or question, but it appears this horse is proud cut and not thinking about the human. Is he?
I think a lot of people underestimate just how difficult groundwork really is! It's wonderful that she's willing to step out of her comfort zone to learn how to do it and build her knowledge. He's definitely not the most obstinate horse I've seen, but like Ryan said, he's willing to test the pressure and that's intimating sometimes.
I think its Encouraging for others to see videos like this, no matter WHAT experience you have , NOT being AFRAID or EMBARRASSED to reach out ...Thank you Ryan for doing what you do 👏 👏 👏
Spot On
This lady seems so sweet and kind. She doesn't realize she retreats a lot and allows him in her space. Ryan is so patient and easy to understand. I am glad they were able to improve. Horse is a handsome guy with the typical disposition of a warmblood. They will take every advantage.
Beautiful horse. He’s very patient with her.
I agree, he was cool!
Yes I like this horse, he moves lightly but smoothly and calmly at the same time. He's not spooky but he's still sensitive and he's mentally stable and he learns fast. But like many bold horses, he needs a bit of leadership or he'll do his own thing instead. And he also can learn bad stuff quickly if the situation warrants it but yeah, he'll also relearn fast if you fix your tactics. He's a flexible horse too and he was very patient really. I think a lot of horses would not so easily put up with all that confusion and mixed signals and be so chill about it but if the confusion keeps up too long, he's going to ignore you more and more so gotta be careful with that. I also see the horse often tries to keep her out of his right eye, especially when she's towards the back of him.
Such a beautiful horse. Owner seemed overly interested in giving the horse pets and "good boy"s, rather than understanding pressure and release. I was really impressed with how much she improved in such a short period of time. Good job everyone!
Credit to Her she is learning and progressing and has to start somewhere. She is in good hands. Good for her.
That beautiful horse has a pretty spunky, dominant sort of movement behavior in his body language. She, on the other hand, moves like she does not want to disturb his peace. As a consequence, he seems not to take her seriously at all... yet. She seems to want to learn, and has a great, open and receptive mindset.
Yes, I’m sure it was EXTREMELY difficult for Ryan to make the decision to visit Oahu😂
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All the KZhead experts critiquing her as if they know her horse 🙄 she did a fantastic job!
I totally agree with you, she's done amazing, its not easy asking for help, and knowing you need the help. She's doing so well
She was trying so hard. She needs to practice how to handle that stick without the horse being there. More control there and re-learn all this without controlling via the lead rope/halter and she will set herself and her horse up for better success! To the Owner: Great Job calling in Ryan to help! I feel your pain…..It’s hard enough on my own. Being there with Ryan and knowing you’re being filmed takes it up 10 notches! You’ll get this!
Great observations! I agree with you.
This video really shows how hard it is to do this!
Thank you for allowing us to watch you. KZhead is very harsh as we can see in this comment section. I bet you none of them was a trainer and good horse person at birth. We all had to learn. ❤
When she takes over I noticed the horse keeps backing her up. First one to move their feet loses. She needs to be more assertive not his friend. I hope in time she becomes his leader. Also I saw where she wrapped the lead rope around her hand, ugh, that's a no no. Ugh, she is not very into this horses vibes and the horse is taking over and she's so new she just doesn't know. She appears to me to be afraid of him. I'm looking at her body language and if I can see the holes, the horse definitely knows. She needs a good 60 days put on him or 90 and she also needs to be apart of the training. We all have our beginnings and don't always get it right but we keep trying.
Gosh I appreciate this woman and see so much of myself in her. I love her honesty and the way she repeats verbally what you’re asking and talks through her process and communicates what she’s doing (or trying to do) so bad. You did a great job building her confidence but I really think her ability to communicate is what helped this work! You guys got a lot done together. And well done Ryan for giving her the “reins” and really being hands on to help adjust her body position. Horse was a stubborn cutie !!
This poor horse has no idea what she is asking him to do because she has no idea how to ask. Nice to see Ryan train the trainer.
But she is striving to understand. This stuff is much harder than Ryan makes it look.
She's trainer?
Yeah, she needs a lot of help. It was very smart of her to have Ryan come, I could see things getting bad for her in the future if she didn't.
At least she new she needed help and asked for it, and she can only improve now, good on her.
I agree that this stuff is a lot harder than it looks. I love the owner's humility and desire to learn.
So glad you’re doing these longer lessons to see the whole process! I’ve been part of the patreon for months and need to send videos from the UAE for help! So glad you reinforce and remind us that you’re here to help us and all We need to do is join the patroon, and send our questions and videos in!
This lady did such an amazing job accepting guidance and direction! Great job!
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Perfect, that is me. Trying but not knowing the right thing to do. I need little Ryan on my shoulder to whisper in my ear what to do. Ryan do you have any of those little Ryan’s in your merchandise store?
😂 we're working on a pocket guide that goes has reminders from my fundamentals series on Patreon. I think it will be very helpful 👍
Be great to have the pocket guide, I took notes from your fundamental series and typed them up and carry them around 😅
I do not get reception in the indoor arena so a pocket guide would be awesome!
This is a really good video, Ryan. You have incredible patience, and it's another thing that makes you excel in this field. Most of the time, the hardest part in horse training is the owner not knowing, and most people really don't. As simple as you make it look, some of this stuff is very hard for the common horse owner. It's not that they are bad owners, they truly just don't know the difference. I find training the human is SO much harder than training the horse, and honestly a huge reason I stopped travel training. Sometimes you just cant teach "feel". This woman clearly cares for her horse, as most do, but horses are such intuitive animals and us humans can either just be too much or not enough. I wish all others commenting on this giving this owner crap, after she has been open enough to share her experience and shown her openness to want to learn and better herself for this horse, take their opinion and shove it.
I think as these concepts gain more acceptance in all aspects of horse disciplines, young horsewomen and men will learn these techniques earlier, will practice them earlier in life and develop this “feel” as they mature in their horsemanship. I think feel can be taught, it just takes lots and lots of practice and guidance from others who understand it. What must be innate is the desire to put in the hard work and study to achieve it.
@@gottasay4766one would hope. The more and more horse men and woman who can successfully teach these practices like Ryan, the better off for other generations. I’ve worked with a lot of owners and a lot of horses. And some just really don’t get it. They can learn how to see and read body language, and know when to release. And learn these techniques. But true feel; thats different. It’s what makes an artist of horsemanship.
My OTTB was doing the same thing. I think the game that Ryan plays, walking through him, helped him the most. It was really hard for me to not move my feet. Back in the 70's we used to just force horses to do things, so i am trying to balance the natural Horsemanship without being aggressive. We have come along way with just doing Ryan's exercises and online coaching. I cant afford to bring Ryan here. 😅
Very good training and advice. That lady will get there without a doubt! Well done! 👍👍💪💪💪 Thank you for sharing.
Very nice horse, and he has a good brain and I bet his previous owner did a lot with him! Great video with a willing horse owner learning how to give her horse guidance in the right way! Hope to see more videos of this journey!
Hats off to Ryan and this lady. I can totally identify with the problems she is having. Love that there are these wonderful videos to help.
Ryan is the best. So patient!
I agree
videos are great to really see objectively what your body is doing. She should review and count how many times she moves her feet in retreat as opposed to moving forward when direction cues are given. The hardest thing I learned is to be body aware and as my teacher told me, "plant and grow, like a tree and learn to get comfortablewith that". Her message of retreat is often communicated with her hips away from her horse, like she is the prey. the constant clucking is distracting to him. Hoping for their continued success and confidence.
She is SUCH a quick learner I wonder if that's why she found herself with this much independence so early in her riding/training education. Hopefully she can find some honest & experienced people long-term since she seems to not have been taught a lot of safe handling practices & is apparently being bucked off often? As always, great work identifying & addressing root causes! So much improvement & skill transfer in such a short time :)
Definitely she's had a lot of riding lessons but needed some more horsemanship 👍
I'm finding that's where a lot of riding lessons fall short. Riding coaches will start training people how to ride before going through horsemanship basics. This is what happened to me! I learned how to ride as a kid, took a long break and eventually put my kids in lessons. When I started riding again, I ended up having an opportunity to own a horse and the learning curve was very steep. Didn't know what I didn't know as none of my coaches, nor my kids coaches had really taught horsemanship and my poor horse had to put up with me figuring things out the hard way.
You can pay an instructor to "teach" the fundamentals. But it's the thousands of difference horses that teach you horsemanship.
Very informative video! I noticed the huge lovely tree in the background! I was wondering where this is at and what kind of tree that is?
I'm way too old to be thinking of all the middle schooler jokes I'm coming up with.
#metoo
I'll call it out...why does this horse have his penis dropped and even erect the first 8 minutes of video? Pretty sure he's a gelding and if he was a stallion I'd correct that. Medical issue? Mental? See I stayed away from middle school 😂
Most horses our farm took on for training definitely required training of the owner/trainer. There is no shame in that; no two horses or people are exactly alike. Along our journey in life, we all are students, we all are teachers, along the way. Also different people learn better by different methods because of the way their mind best absorbs the information. Some grasp it all by reading and illustrations, some by viewing videos and others have a much better understanding with a live interaction, copying the instructor.
I agree. Have to watch many different methods and work with different trainers to figure out what works best for me and my horse!
Not easy to teach reading the horse, being firm and not overdoing being a softy! This young lady is just beginning to see the dif, and it is not real easy to switch modes. She will be fine with Ryan's guidance, and she will see the dif when he takes over handling the horse. Being firm and a bit dominant is not being mean to the horse. If you don't take charge, he will take advantage.....
So helpful to see a horse that doesn’t already know this kind of training and to learn how to work through his reluctance and/or lack of understanding until he finds the clue himself!
This woman was so courageous and did way better than I would. I would need him to step forward and demonstrate every step before I did it. I'm not sure why anyone would criticize her. She humbly came on here to learn.
Elephant on the room...this guy is sporting a pretty continuous hard on. As a stallion owner that is a bit worrying. When he is at work he shouldn't be. Im surprised that Ryan does not mention this. When Ryan steps in he loses it. So there may be a dominance issue with women. This is not uncommon in stallions and it can be dangerous. Good that this gal reached out for help.
I noticed that too, with the same concerns.
Yes, totally hanging out there, and yawning. 30:51
Yes, as Ryan moved in, he realized pretty quickly he wasn’t the dominant stud anymore. 😉
Of all your videos, the transparency of the entire lesson was SO beneficial. I picked up many strategies on how to help a client. how precise you need to be and also how to convey that to the client in a very neutral way. to.compare and contrast the energy, timing, finding the pressure that is effective! GOLDEN VIDEO and such an awesome client!!
She is still trying to learn what to do and when to do it. Good for her, but the horse is mixed up, not knowing how or what to do.😅😅😅😅. Good luck to her on training her horse.❤❤❤.
Wow, I am so impressed by everything I witnessed in this video. I love how she felt awkward (who wouldn’t in this situation) but she just kept trying. Its one thing to stick with it off camera and another on camera. Great job to her! This video and the part 2 have been some of the clearest instruction I’ve seen from you Ryan. Excellent content!!
She was so very nervous, you were patient and fair with them both, thanks for being a brilliant teacher
What an ideal horse for her to begin handling horses with. He is as long suffering as she is brave in sharing her learning process. I hope they both learn to form an understanding and working partnership together. Perhaps suggesting she practices with the whip away from the horse in her spare time will help hasten any improvement? Behaving like a kid with a toy and "wielding" it constantly would improve her co-ordination and motor skills. Aiming at a particular flower in the garden, getting the pet dog to yield to the stick, even twirling it like a baton; will all go to helping her to automatically put the stick in the correct place without having to think about where she is standing, anticipating the horse's next move, and how to wield the stick all at the same time. Is it worth mentioning the elephant in the room at the start when she initially handled him? I have seen lots of dull "loved on" and spoilt (manners) horses do this over the years and it is something many people do not know to look out for. It was very telling that the moment Ryan corrected him, it went away and never came back.
Fantastic video. Thank you both for sharing.
I love this video because I have a lot to learn, I'm a couple of years new to horses, and I appreciate that the owner was learning as you went along in the process. I could totally feel where she was and how she felt. Please thank her for me! You have such great experience and make things look easy, it was nice to see her work through her challenges.
You have such incredible patience Ryan. Great video, would love to work with you someday!
Thank you so much! This is really helpful
Great work! Animals and humans are teachable....she really worked hard, and the horse seems less confused. What an amazing teacher!
Thank you so much Ryan, i needed this video!!
Your a generous man Ryan, 20% leadership id say not in a horrible way. Very good instruction and stepped in when necessary so the horse didnt get to confused. Love how keen and determined she was to learn.
Thanks!
That place is so beautiful!! thank you for this video ❤ you Ryan ❤
This is a great video. I really appreciate where she is with these issues and Ryan is such a patient instructor.
I'm gonna be 💯 about this, the fact that he sucks it up with Ryan and not her should tell her something, it's definitely a respect thing. I'm sure Ryan will tell her off camera.
He told her on camera haha
I loved this video! Seeing an 'ordinary' person doing what you are teaching on your Patreon page helped me immensely. I struggled with the exact same issues when trying to side-pass my mare, and after watching this, the penny dropped, and I had a breakthrough at my training session today. You are great at explaining your training techniques and principles, but seeing someone else applying them is invaluable.
I love horses but have never had one. You are an amazing horseman. It’s inspiring to watch you interact and share your knowledge.
I’m 5 minutes in and I LOVE THIS LADY!!! 😍🥰 good on ya Stephanie!
Owner: Tap his nose? (Like bonk his velvety little nose?). She will find it helpful to stop seeing this as “whacking him.” You can tell she’s been unarmed with effective responses. Ryan’s program is going to reveal a totally different horse. What’s great is how fast this handsome horse is responding. She benefited from personal attention. I found it super beneficial to give up ALL verbal cues in order to concentrate, which greatly helped my mastery of body language and rating my energy.
This video was super useful! One thing to watch the fundamental series, another to do it, not quite getting it right and not understanding why. Thank you to the owner for being vulnerable and Ryan for being patient and helping her through the mistakes!
Such a generous gift to be able to learn from this sweet, gentle woman's experience! It's very rewarding to watch her learn from Ryan, gain confidence and her horse start to see her as a leader. Thank you for sharing this with us!
Great Video - - glad you are there for her . .. I wonder if she has ever had a reliable horse to trust . . . what a difference that makes.
Loved the breakdown of what to do when in this video. These two will be a nice pair once they have a better understanding of how to communicate with each other.
Besides the excellent educational value, I also very much enjoyed the scenery and sounds of this location! ❤
You're awesome. Love your channel ❤️. TY RR.
Thank you 😊
Gorgeous horse.
Such a beautiful horse, and he is so eager and willing to learn. The main thing that sticks out to me is the trust he has with you.❤❤
In this relationship, we clearly know the leader.
Thanks Ryan, Very useful video, a great deal of information in there. Awesome lady and nice horse..
Imo the biggest issue is alot of people who have and work with horses lack enough self emotional regulation and control and use the horse to sooth their emotions and want to be the horses friend, which creates alot of the issues seen here. It needs to be the horses leader first, then friend second otherwise the horse will never show respect, especially when humans constantly unintentionally send them mixed signals because they are unaware of their own intentions. Prime example is the horse senses straight away that Ryans intentions are clear and concise so its easy to know exactly what he wants even if its the first time hes asking for a particular task, but the owner constantly gets confused and sends mixed signals which the horse either freezes or spooks from which is clear to see in her hesitation. Definitely a case of the owner needing direction and training more than the horse. Hats off to her for getting the help from someone capable of helping her as that shows courage and a will to succeed, the hardest things in life to learn are the things we dont yet know that we dont know, so that we can do better!
I feel seen!! I am definitely still learning a lot about these things but my new gelding definitely doesn't see me as the leader and I'm having trouble recouping. He does all these exact same things so this will help me a ton!!
Great video! As a rider who only rides school horses to hack and sometimes lease horses, this is great to see what I can do before riding any horse to establish that I’m the leader. More videos like this please!!! ❤
I’ve noticed that some women seem to be quick to pat and reassure after every correction. Is that distracting for a horse learning
This is the cutest horse. So cheeky with pushing boundaries
Definitely a leadership issue 😊, but we can all make that mistake just with self doubt in that are we asking correctly or persevering enough with what we have asked. This is a great video for helping with that!
Ive been riding for almost all my life, but just bought my first horse, a 2 year old mare who has only lived on a farm in a herd with almost no human interaction. She bites, kicks and challenges everything, and I have someone to help me train her but he isnt an expert, just more experienced than me. If someone saw a video of my training and all my mistakes in it, Im sure they could think of a million criticisms for me and say Im confusing the horse and getting everything wrong - but how will I learn if I dont try? While Im super open to criticism because it will help me learn - you would also have to remember that I am brand new and trying my best to improve. So seeing this woman get so heavily criticised by these 'comment-experts' just baffles me, when she is just open and honestly putting herself out there to help her horse (and help people like me learn by watching this). She is learning, just like the horse is learning. Why is nobody criticising the horse? Because its easier to tear her down and feel superior than it is to talk badly about a horse. She did an amazing job at learning and I appreciate this video so immensely. Stay humble, caring and understanding, people!
Excellent student!
Good thing she paid for lessons from you 😊
If I was a horse, there's no other rider I'd want than that one
Oh my! This is what my horse does when I try to send her.
your killing me smalls!!!
What movie is that quote from? The Sandlot? I can't remember,
@@user-qr8ki8ue4i yes the sandlot
The first problem is not using a lunging cavesson. A longing cavesson lets you control the nose to the inside and the lunging whip controls the hindquarters. Gorgeous horse!
I'm of the opinion that most people need to feel some real pain before they come to the conclusion that buying a good training program (and following it) is a heck of a lot less expensive than 2 weeks in the hospital.
Ryan! Safety first! Halter is WAY too loose! And YOU and the owner have that lead rope looped around your hands! 😳😵🤦♀️ Green horse, green horse woman.... glad she sought your help. Looking forward to seeing their progress. 😊
she also needs to be conscious of stepping backwards when asking the horse to move forwards. that's why he keeps coming towards her bc she keeps stepping back.
Omg noooo the video stopped! part 2!! Hurry please 😂 🙏🏼
This is an eye opener for me. I see even saying don’t move your feet. Her feet are moving. I have same issues w my horse accepting me as leader bc of the moving of my feet, trying to reposition myself which is allowing him to make me move(hence he is in charge). I finally tried not moving my feet at all this morn and amazing thing he moved not me but I also watched my intention and my ask as well.
I think she needs practice just managing the lead & stick & string...basic circling exercises would help her before the side passing she needs to stop backing away every time he comes forward..with horseS EVERY FOOT STEP counts.
This horse drive this lady, but it must be wiser worse...from here all the problems. Thanks.
Random thought here. I've watched several of your videos and a common issue is using the stick. People seem to have a great deal of difficulty just using the stick. So, perhaps ":Stink handling" could be a subject...no horse, just the stick and string. When they develop dexterity just using the stick, then I bet they have much less difficulty with the rest.
Very sweet lady. She ask him to do things by “come on, move, go” etc He is definitely in charge and the boss. It’s not in her to boldly move him out of her space or direct him. It’s like wrestling with a pig, don’t do it because you’re going to get dirty and the pig’s gonna love it.
Well pony is enjoying himself.
I am so glad this popped up today. Over the Winter my newest mare moved up to Alpha mare and I now have to become her leader/Alpha. I cannot believe how much transitioning to Alpha changed her. This video gives me the tools I need. Also I have to ask.. she has started stepping towards me on the mounting block making me have to step off backwards. Will taking over the leadership roll stop this?
I see why she brought u to Help. She has no clue what to do. And obviously has been confusing the horse. Definitely she has no leadership. And the horse is feeding off her insecurities.
Will there be any videos on starting horses and what age is best? I'm only asking because on a group I follow a 2 year old colt has had 3 rides on him and others there are mentioning the discs in the spine and what age they close. Just wondering. Thanks
is working without the whip okay? to do those moves with my horse because he works light with his response
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What is the name of the music piece or song in the last minute of the video ?please
THAT ROPE HALTER LOOKS TOO LOW ON THE BRIDGE OF HIS NOSE TO ME AT 3 MINUTES IN
He makes her back up without her noticing. Not good
I keep getting a little irritated when Ryan says "he was designed..." in my head I'm kinda shouting a little "he has evolved..." lol.
Novice question. The horse is dropped and bouncing while she is trying and my vet has always said that is dominance or the horse finding the training boring. This is ok or should he be told to suck it up? Is the horse a stallion?
They drop when relaxed (unless medical). It is okay & not disrespectful, just gives some insight into emotional state.
I would say relaxed and hanging out. This horse is stiff. I had a friend whose gelding would actually self satisfy any time he was not moving under saddle. He had attention issues, and was a difficult ride. I wonder if that is a sign of anxiety?
I suspect it is more nervous excitement. Horse, wondering how HIS leadership is going to go today. You notice when Ryan took over and asserted his dominance over the horse, horse put it away because he realised he could relax because there was a strong protective leader there to keep him safe.
Everything was fine till that chicken decided to cross the road!
I understand bodylanguage and silence better. I guess the horse will, too🤔 Just mentioning. Have to concentrate😐☝Very interesting!
Gm6086 I'm curious what you would do differently.
To gm6086
Yo Ryan I would make the horse retract! he is dropped ?? while you are working the horses mind is somewhere else