How Fast Can We Spin A Titanium Skateboard Wheel?

2023 ж. 19 Мам.
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How fast can we spin a titanium skateboard wheel? There's only one way to find out. I made a custom wheel in pursuit of our goal of reaching 200,000 RPM. We used our 60,000PSI waterjet to spin it up to outrageous speeds.
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  • What would you guys suggest on how to get our RPMs higher? Our next three strategies are to try lighter materials (magnesium or carbon fiber), hollowed out wheels, and finally smaller diameter wheels. At this point those seem to be our only bottle necks, anything we’re over looking?

    @WaterjetChannel@WaterjetChannel Жыл бұрын
    • Rutts in the titanium

      @Jinklenuttz@Jinklenuttz Жыл бұрын
    • VTEC

      @retrocompaq5212@retrocompaq5212 Жыл бұрын
    • Tungsten?

      @ToughestHentaiMaster@ToughestHentaiMaster Жыл бұрын
    • Smaller diameter titanium wheel and spray paint it white and then put a nice thick black sharpie line in order for your tachometer to get a clear reading :)

      @slickpickle6996@slickpickle6996 Жыл бұрын
    • Cut a groove in the side of the Ti wheel (and make sure it still balances). Then, using the water drops as a time reference using a black and white checked board with known measurements (like they use in myth busters) you should be able to get an accurate account for the time and rotation of the wheel.

      @GoogleToobUser@GoogleToobUser Жыл бұрын
  • Should have just drawn a white line on the wheel

    @JustHarrison395@JustHarrison395 Жыл бұрын
    • Exactly 😂

      @______926@______926 Жыл бұрын
    • Yeah that is what is was thinking😂

      @FamTech.@FamTech. Жыл бұрын
    • We’ll certainly give that a try. We were a bit rushed with filming and didn’t have many marking options handy.

      @WaterjetChannel@WaterjetChannel Жыл бұрын
    • That or a piece of tape or they could have scribed a line on

      @dw.203@dw.203 Жыл бұрын
    • I love white lines

      @DirtTrackRacing410@DirtTrackRacing410 Жыл бұрын
  • If you're asking if it would produce a sonic boom, that's a no. A spinning object doesn't produce the kind of compression force needed for a boom. A sonic boom is produced when air is compressed at a faster rate than it can expand itself. The wheel would have to be moving, not spinning. Since the wheel is a uniform shape, there's nowhere along the wheel for air to accumulate and compress. As far as producing a different pitch or tone, though... That's beyond me. I'm not familiar with that part of physics

    @yourbifriendaspen3629@yourbifriendaspen3629 Жыл бұрын
    • This makes sense, took a few physics classes and somehow missed that red flag. Though this does beg the question, could you start something on fire purely from air resistance in this fashion.

      @DoubsGaming@DoubsGaming Жыл бұрын
    • @@DoubsGaming yeah, i think so. Pretty sure that's what happens when objects enter Earth's atmosphere. It's part of the reason designing spacecrafts meant for re-entry are so difficult.

      @yourbifriendaspen3629@yourbifriendaspen3629 Жыл бұрын
    • You can actually hear the fan blade tips becoming supersonic on moder high bypass turbofan engines, it maes a very strange buzzing sound, so its definitely possible but in this case unlike a turbofan this wheel is completely smooth so like you say I don't think it would create any notable disturbance in the air, who knows though I'm not an aerodynamisist or an engineer

      @mishkamcivor409@mishkamcivor409 Жыл бұрын
    • bearings

      @iRA_mkb@iRA_mkb Жыл бұрын
    • @@mishkamcivor409 the thunderscreech planes propellar would also make a visible shockwave because of how fast it was going

      @leatherfart1822@leatherfart1822 Жыл бұрын
  • I'm an engineer. The limiting factor on wheel RPM is parasitic drag from air resistance and bearing friction; not the weight of the material. If you had low enough friction, the outer surface would achieve the same velocity as the jet. The best way to achieve lower air drag is to polish the surface of the wheel, and place the whole contraption in a somewhat airtight cylindrical container, so a rotating mass of air can form around it, instead of accelerating the stationary air in the room. But by far the biggest improvement could be had by removing the grease from the bearing. After all you only need it to work once.

    @MushookieMan@MushookieMan Жыл бұрын
    • I think I've only seen one other comment correctly pointing out that a lighter wheel wouldn't help. IDK what mechanism they're even imagining for a heavier wheel to have more drag. With good bearings, the extra weight on them should be negligible compared to air resistance. If the wheel isn't perfectly balanced on the same axis as the bearing, a lighter wheel wouldn't wobble as hard. But I think wobble must be low enough to be pretty negligible, or something would probably break at those speeds. Wheel *diameter* on the other hand is a significant factor. The outer edge of the wheel can only reach a linear speed of at most the water jet speed. The larger the wheel radius, the lower RPM for the same linear speed. Cutting a groove into the wheel (or just shrinking it) would give the water jet a higher "gear ratio" in turning the wheel. ---- Interesting idea about a housing to allow rotating air. It would still have to allow water from the water jet to escape so it couldn't be airtight everywhere, but yeah you could maybe get a shroud around it that would encourage air to move around it. (Unless you were driving the wheel by a different mechanism, like electromagnetism, like a DC motor at a distance? Then you could put it in a low-pressure / partial vacuum bell jar or something. Makes me think of some modern hard drives that use helium.)

      @Peter_Cordes@Peter_Cordes11 ай бұрын
    • Im also an engineer, they need to use ceramic bearings if they want to achieve such high rpms with lower friction.

      @xxn0cturn3xx@xxn0cturn3xx11 ай бұрын
    • ​@@xxn0cturn3xxWhy ceramic and not tungsten carbide ?

      @RovingPunster@RovingPunster2 ай бұрын
    • @@xxn0cturn3xx They are using ceramic bearings lol

      @saab35draken39@saab35draken3911 күн бұрын
    • @@RovingPunster better yet, why not sapphire bearings?

      @Sugarsail1@Sugarsail1Күн бұрын
  • This is the type of unhinged video that got me hooked on youtube back in its early days.

    @AuburnTigers111@AuburnTigers1115 ай бұрын
    • 😮

      @ParanoiaPrise@ParanoiaPrise2 ай бұрын
    • we have come full circle

      @dangusprime@dangusprimeАй бұрын
  • Try making a magnesium wheel but press fit a titanium sleeve around the outer diameter to give it more strength. Should hit crazy high RPMs as magnesium is significantly lighter than even aluminum.

    @PatrickAdairDesigns@PatrickAdairDesigns Жыл бұрын
    • It would accelerate faster, but should reach the same rpm. Also be careful as magnesium fires are troublesome

      @spintt@spintt Жыл бұрын
    • wouldn't one of the materials stretch more than the other and cause significant problems?

      @joli22@joli22 Жыл бұрын
    • Beryllium? although it'd be mad expensive.

      @matthewmorgan582@matthewmorgan582 Жыл бұрын
    • I feel like *magnesium* and a *water*jet could be a funny combo

      @feelinghealing3890@feelinghealing3890 Жыл бұрын
    • @@matthewmorgan582 They would die from berylliosis. Do not fuck with that shit.

      @themonkeyspaw7359@themonkeyspaw7359 Жыл бұрын
  • Take it from a guy who mass machines titanium on the regular, whatever speed you think you should be running at, halve it. Most machinists who are unfamiliar with the material go way too fast and destory any cutting edge you once had. Bi-metal band saw blades will cut it but have to be sharp and run slow, 300 series stainless slow. Cutting it on the lathe, use carbide and go a hair slower than stainless steel speeds.

    @johnrobert3816@johnrobert3816 Жыл бұрын
    • Agreed, also a steady stream of coolant on the tip of the cutting tool helps too

      @76Arfa@76Arfa Жыл бұрын
    • Is there a reason they didn't just use the water jet instead of the bandsaw for the rough cut?

      @bp8652@bp865211 ай бұрын
    • @@76Arfa I truthfully don't have an answer for you. I am primarily a lathe operator but I can guess that cutting over a round surface can be a challenge on the jet because it gets deflected but I really don't know. Also the struggle may have just been better content.

      @johnrobert3816@johnrobert381611 ай бұрын
    • I also cut much Ti and Inconel. When I discovered cermet inserts my life changed. Now, I ENJOY Ti, Inconel and hard machining. Maschosicism at its finest.

      @shirothehero0609@shirothehero060911 ай бұрын
    • Agree! Titanium (especially the machinable grades) isn't hard to machine as long as you go VERY slow. I was making a titanium pen (yeah, go figure) and lost several drill bits center cutting the middle out until I realized I was just going a little too fast for the heat. I slowed down just a little and it cut beautifully. Once it starts grabbing, the heat skyrockets and something breaks. It's almost like copper, but not that gummy. Despite the hype, titanium is softer than steel, but harder to machine unless you go slow.

      @kevenc@kevenc11 ай бұрын
  • You could possibly increase the max speed at the outer diameter by creating a tophat shaped wheel. Point the waterjet at the smaller diameter section and the larger half may move faster than the water from the jet just like higher gearing in a car. It will however be harder to spin.

    @wowscrypt@wowscrypt Жыл бұрын
  • This is the first video of yours that I've watched and while waterjet videos don't exactly peak my interest the comedy/editing will keep me watching haha, keep it up

    @MM-jn2ny@MM-jn2ny3 ай бұрын
    • *pique

      @jacktheladd8841@jacktheladd88413 ай бұрын
  • First, use a silver or white line for contrast to get the Tachometer to work. Also, the titanium wheel would most likely have a different resonant frequency especially since you changed the bearings. Bearings are usually the noise maker anyway and since you upgraded them the frequencies almost certainly wouldn’t correspond to the same RPMS. You very likely exceeded the RPMs of the aluminum wheel with this experiment. Keep it up, i love this stuff, it’s why i like engineering!

    @JBMetalShop@JBMetalShop Жыл бұрын
    • My first thought was using a white paint marker. Nice

      @dubfunk1886@dubfunk18864 ай бұрын
  • Bearing will affect the sound/harmonics. Can’t use the previous frequency. Next time don’t anodize it so there is more contrast for the meter!!

    @1rstTry@1rstTry Жыл бұрын
    • or heavily anodize half the wheel to create contrast that stays on.

      @bobmcbob4399@bobmcbob4399 Жыл бұрын
    • A white line on the black wheel would have worked just fine.

      @______926@______926 Жыл бұрын
    • Or to just grind off the anodize in a line

      @minimalskill6592@minimalskill6592 Жыл бұрын
    • @@minimalskill6592 minimal skill but maximum brain

      @1rstTry@1rstTry Жыл бұрын
    • You need a white mark on a black wheel, these tachometers don't work very well with black marks on white wheels, because they need short impulses of a light surface. But usually they don't work above 100,000 rpm....

      @Henning_S.@Henning_S. Жыл бұрын
  • Great entertainment. I can tell you have working around this shop forever as your ability to cover all ideas or theorys with tests along with funny spats makes this very fun to watch! Great job!

    @Ofna211@Ofna2114 ай бұрын
  • The trick to ti on the band saw... 1 flood coolant, 2 brand new Lennox blade! 3 turn the band speed as low as it goes, I don't care if the Internet gave you a different speed. If it's a variable speed, turn the adjuster till the band stops moving then turn it up till it barely works. If it's a multi speed, put a vfd controller on the motor to slow it down. I've been able to turn induction motors down to 15 hz which is 1/4 speed. It might even go down to 10hz. As for the lathe, If it's a fairly heavy lathe you can take pretty heavy cuts. If you have lots of cooling like a CNC you may even be able to go a reasonable RPM. Ti likes CNC lathes. Continuous cuts are good. Thick chips are good. Prefer a feed/rev relationship over higher rpm. Thin chips are bad, high rpm is generally bad unless you have the cooling capacity. For a manual lathe use power feed and if you want to be safe use a very low rpm. Always use new sharp tools. For a milling machine, well if it's CNC use climbing cuts and a fixed feed rate, no slowing down for corners. Use healthy oversteps. A thin chips will harden the work and break the cutter faster than an abrupt 90 corner with a heavier volumetric load will. If you are manually milling, you may be able to face it. But good luck profiling it. It hates conventional cuts and heat. But climbing cuts heavy enough to punch through the work hardened surface will likely draw the work into the cutter. You can try locking the gibs and letting the leadscrew pull through the friction. But a CNC with ball nuts is just a more reliable way to work with it.

    @danieldimitri6133@danieldimitri61333 ай бұрын
  • This whole channel feels like a post-apocalyptic Waterjet Channel where a lone survivor stumbles upon the location and partial ruins of the Waterjet Channel and started making videos to keep from going insane.

    @mattd1188@mattd1188 Жыл бұрын
    • Yeah, wtf happend to the channel?

      @Glensen@Glensen11 ай бұрын
    • The good people left and the channel died

      @prestonjohnson3259@prestonjohnson325911 ай бұрын
    • they never made a video about it makes me think the channel and the other guys parted on bad terms?

      @xJagaimo@xJagaimo10 ай бұрын
    • @@xJagaimo I heard somewhere that they moved to a different position or something, it’s just not that good without them tho

      @prestonjohnson3259@prestonjohnson325910 ай бұрын
  • Since the titanium isn't gonna get gouged out as much, to maximize the speed you are gonna want to have it hit the wheel further out so the water stream is hitting at an angle closer to tangent of the surface of the wheel.

    @the.other.ian.@the.other.ian. Жыл бұрын
    • Also it would likely be a good idea to move the jet away from the axis as the wheel expands.

      @tz8785@tz878511 ай бұрын
    • You're giving advice to someone who can't even bother to fit a bearing properly. Also someone who's best idea for spinning wheels quickly is to unbalance them as fast as possible. Also someone who thinks puns and bad accents are the height of wit. etc.

      @amarissimus29@amarissimus2911 ай бұрын
    • @@amarissimus29 yes because you are much more capable funny witty etc....get a grip

      @HowToGuroo@HowToGuroo11 ай бұрын
    • ​@@amarissimus29I bet you still get invited to all the parties and end up with all the beautiful women.

      @SirPunch2Face@SirPunch2Face11 ай бұрын
  • I like your sense of humor. Makes me feel at home.

    @FrankHeuvelman@FrankHeuvelman10 ай бұрын
  • I hope there is a part 2 to this video where you try different kinds of lead or metals. This was top 3 of videos you have ever done in my opinion. I want to see 2 bullets fuse now and hope you get it done. Good Luck and God Bless

    @Smooth327@Smooth32711 ай бұрын
  • The peak frequency of the fundamental tone on the Titanium sample reached a maximum of 953Hz (on my spectrogram). That equates to 57,180 RPM. I'd throw out your tachometer, and ignore any previous readings. Working out new speeds based upon the previous rpm measured with it will be giving falsely high results for everything. They can pick up false signals (harmonics) and give you twice the speed or more. Here's my measurements: *Resin + Titanium Shavings:* 429 Hz * 60 = 25,740 RPM *Copper:* 332 Hz * 60 = 19,920 RPM *Titanium:* 953 Hz * 60 = 57,180 RPM

    @PrincipalAudio@PrincipalAudio Жыл бұрын
    • @ 12:50 in the video, the peak reading is ~924 Hz, which equates to 55,440 RPM. @ 13:02 in the video, peak reading is ~1320 Hz = 79,200 RPM.

      @PrincipalAudio@PrincipalAudio Жыл бұрын
    • Someone else did say that different bearings produce different sound signatures so doing another series of tests with only ceramic bearings would also give a more accurate result.

      @DoubsGaming@DoubsGaming Жыл бұрын
    • @@DoubsGaming denser materials sounds different too

      @retrocompaq5212@retrocompaq5212 Жыл бұрын
    • @@DoubsGaming Good call! I think the difference in sound would mostly come from higher harmonics and intermodulation (which can produce frequencies lower than the fundamental). But still, would be great to keep everything constant except for the material being tested. 👍

      @PrincipalAudio@PrincipalAudio Жыл бұрын
    • @@retrocompaq5212 Aye, you're right about the different sounds. I should probably make a video on this - after my audio interface is repaired for the 2nd time in a row. Differences in sound characteristics usually come from frequencies higher than the fundamental. Usually, the fundamental (1st harmonic) is the one to look at, as it'll be the one that represents the rotation speed (except in cases of strange vibrations). But usually you can see these other vibrations starting to occur in the spectrogram and ignore them.

      @PrincipalAudio@PrincipalAudio Жыл бұрын
  • Your presentation and editing have gotten better... Keep it up

    @mattt198654321@mattt198654321 Жыл бұрын
  • Some good precision machining the bore, and balance it when your done, the balance will greatly improve your rotational speed before failure. This very cool, thanks for sharing. Cheers!

    @larrykent196@larrykent196Ай бұрын
  • Legend has it the wheel spins faster than Sonic

    @HeisenbergFam@HeisenbergFam Жыл бұрын
    • Lol😊

      @TrevorD19@TrevorD19 Жыл бұрын
    • Go away Walter!

      @D0BR0VECE@D0BR0VECE Жыл бұрын
    • waltuh you aint supposed to be here waltuh

      @tone618@tone618 Жыл бұрын
  • Here's an idea to get the tachometer to read. You guys electrocuted it so it turned blue, well dip half of it In the solution so it becomes a different colour than the other half. I don't know how the tachometer exactly works, but it's how I think it does, it should be able to give a reading. And it won't rub off like the sharpie did.(I have no idea if it will actually work but it's an idea)

    @jakobchuchman5982@jakobchuchman5982 Жыл бұрын
    • Tachometers like that usually use reflective tape strips that you put on the object to have a stable signal

      @Mrshotshell@Mrshotshell Жыл бұрын
    • The proper thing would be to put a retroreflective strip on it.

      @RIGeek.@RIGeek. Жыл бұрын
    • @@RIGeek. Most laser tachometers even come with some

      @Mrshotshell@Mrshotshell Жыл бұрын
    • ​@@RIGeek.Can't. You can't put anything on or take anything away. IF it sticks, it causes a disbalans which is very dangerous at those speeds.

      @RKroese@RKroese11 ай бұрын
    • This idea of discoloration is kinda decent does not have to be 50% of the wheel consider 5% to 10% to get some kind of stripe.

      @MartII89NL@MartII89NL3 ай бұрын
  • you calculate the upper limit on rotational velocity for the titanium wheel. the wheel will never spin faster than the surface velocity of the water hitting it. so you use the formula to convert surface velocity of a wheel to rotational (using the radius of your wheel) and that is your absolute upper limit. you know it will actually be less than that because the frictional forces of the bearing and the air will slow it down. you can combine all frictional forces into an overall coefficient of friction. you can get the drag coefficient for a stationary spinning wheel from an engineering data table, and you can get the coefficient of friction for that bearing from the supplier (or just do ceramic on ceramic). my WAG would be the actual rotational velocity maximum after friction is probably 80% of the frictionless value. The slowmo doesn't actually tell you the whole picture though either. it appears to be spinning 3 frames for full rotation, but you could be spinning a lot more than that. the sample rate of the camera could be relative slow such that the wheel spins multiple times per frame and simply shows up in a different location. there are a LOT of formulas for calculating and accounting for this to try and get a range of possible values. also the frequency is going to be tied to the density and volume of the disc, so it wouldn't map perfectly to the aluminum disc

    @Gunbudder@Gunbudder11 ай бұрын
    • They can make a step on a wheel with smaller radius and point a water jet on its surface. This would make it spin faster and the outer radius wheel surface may indeed break the speed of sound then.

      @pahom2@pahom23 ай бұрын
  • Holy shit man You deserve your own show!! This is awesomeness🎉 You sir have just gained a huge fan:) Not like a fan fan, a fan😅

    @joanrucker1568@joanrucker15684 күн бұрын
  • my guess would be the tachometer functions on contrast to generate a differential pulse wave, then just spits out pulses per second to pulses per minute to get RPM, the blue anodization may have hindered the contrast (red laser), so maybe try a white spray paint and the sharpie black line, a wider black line may be beneficial because at higher RPM the contrast would produce a fainter pulse signal for a thin one with respect to the sensors sample rate.

    @matthewlambermon-southam4418@matthewlambermon-southam4418 Жыл бұрын
    • or anodise just half very dark....

      @GerinoMorn@GerinoMorn Жыл бұрын
    • At the speeds they're trying to measure itd probably be best to do half black non reflective and the other half white very reflective. That way instead of trying to catch a quick blip the meter has half a rotation to sense the change in intensity. As long as its capturing one up and one down level change per rotation it will remain accurate. Also, itd be a helluva lot easier to deduce on high speed.

      @zombieregime@zombieregime10 ай бұрын
  • Im sure the harmonics would be completely different between the materials and bearings used. The pitch used between them for estimates can't be reliable

    @sandyleask92@sandyleask92 Жыл бұрын
    • The right way to do it would be to take samples from different parts of the video, find a part where you could measure it with the tachometer, and watch the corresponding line travel left to make sure you are tracking the right one. Picking out "maximums" on a spetrograph is kind of bullshit.

      @JasonMitchellofcompsci@JasonMitchellofcompsci Жыл бұрын
  • Yes, the drag on the wheel exponentially increases, the faster it spins. I would not rely on the tone of a wheel of a different material to estimate the speed of the Ti wheel. Measure it optically. If you have to, use an oscilloscope to probe the IR photodiode on your chinesium harbor freight tachometer, then count the frequency with the oscilloscope. Adjusting the position of the wheel vs the stream might help you in two ways 1. Optimizing the momentum transfer from the water to the wheel by 1a. Getting as close to tangent as possible without 1b. Reducing the amount & duration of water contacting the wheel before flying off 2. Reducing the friction on the bearings by reducing the downward force from the stream (the closer to the center of the wheel = more radial force & friction on the bearing and the less torque/ tangential momentum transfer to the wheel). Probably the best thing you could do to make this experiment easier is scuff a stripe on the wheel to reflect, sharpie the rest black. Setup your chinesium tach on a chinesium tripod, tap into your chinesium tach photodiode, connect an oscilloscope, monitor from a safe distance. Then start playing with your... Position of the jet. Then you're set. Bet.

    @tannerbean3801@tannerbean380111 ай бұрын
  • Great video man. I wish I had access to a shop and materials to do goofy fun stuff like that.

    @maytronix7201@maytronix720111 ай бұрын
  • Where did the original guys go?

    @DP69264@DP69264 Жыл бұрын
    • Gone, reduced to atoms

      @CreamyPennePasta@CreamyPennePasta Жыл бұрын
    • Sold the channel

      @mattt198654321@mattt198654321 Жыл бұрын
    • They licked the wrong substances.

      @Unruh1087@Unruh108711 ай бұрын
    • Yeah wtf I really miss them

      @nathanchalecki4842@nathanchalecki484211 ай бұрын
    • Retired I guess?

      @PuerRidcully@PuerRidcully11 ай бұрын
  • If you're gonna keep bumping up the RPMs, you'll need a better measuring method. Get a very small disc magnet, drill a hole in the side of your wheel (not the circumference, it'll get thrown off, just the side, as close to the bearing as you can to avoid imbalance), JB weld it in, balance it, and then use a read head pulled out of an old tape deck, hooked to an oscilliscope, to measure the speed of the wheel. An optical tachometer just isn't gonna keep up at these speeds, although you may have better results spray painting it black, and then adding a retro-reflective white strip.

    @sac3528@sac3528 Жыл бұрын
    • instead of a tape reader couldn't you just use any inductor or even a piece of coiled copper? the charge generated by the magnet could be detected by an oscilloscope, and since you basically made a monophase generator, you could measure the frequency of the current you generate, and instead of embedding a magnet which could cause imbalance you could electro-coat a part of it with something ferromagnetic

      @eduardopupucon@eduardopupucon Жыл бұрын
    • another idea would be to find a way to couple the wheel into a car alternator, that way you already have everything built into

      @eduardopupucon@eduardopupucon Жыл бұрын
    • @@eduardopupucon Sure you could, but a tape head has the advantages of being readily available, cheap, and most importantly - has a really high frequency response. You could use any old coil of wire, but at 100khz+ ... well I'm no electrical engineer, but at some point you'll have to actually think about the design of your coil so that it can actually produce a signal at those frequencies, and why bother doing that when you can use one where someone's already done all the work for you?

      @sac3528@sac3528 Жыл бұрын
    • It's better to treat the magnets like a small generator, whatever wattage you get out of it can be measured at lower more accurate speeds, then that wattage number can get you a good estimate on how fast its turning at higher rpm, works for 20k rpm liter bikes at least

      @crimmy838@crimmy83810 ай бұрын
  • Do you put any classic cut in the waterjet or just run pure water? Have you tried the opposite (with/without the classic cut). Also do you use any sort of softener in the water?

    @Debbiebabe69@Debbiebabe693 ай бұрын
  • 0:57 strong bad fqhwgahds reference???!! as a former homestar runner addict you got me good

    @aeriumsoft@aeriumsoft9 ай бұрын
  • It's not a waterjet channel video without a taste test. Good job.

    @120297@120297 Жыл бұрын
  • I wonder if this sort of thing will end up being turned into an actual manufacturing process to go along casting and stamping ...

    @robertsmith4681@robertsmith4681 Жыл бұрын
  • Make sure it's perfectly balanced, I could tell just from the hand spin it was off balance since it ended up swinging back and forth around the heavy side. The imbalance is going to cause the bearings to wear unevenly and cause more friction. Use a hobby propeller balancer to get it as close as possible to perfect. I would also suggest rounding off the corners and trying to shoot for a flattened sphere shape to avoid air turbulence. Good luck!

    @flomojo2u@flomojo2u11 ай бұрын
    • I just commented that the heavy side is the bottom which makes it act as a pendulum. Knock a couple grams off until it goes away. Its typical to see a bunch of drilled out spots on engine crankshafts to balance them. Same could be done here. Just drill or mill off a little bit of material.

      @Infernostar18@Infernostar183 ай бұрын
  • I like manganese alloy and would love to see a wheel made out of that put in the water jet. It was first used to make wagon wheels and now it’s used for concrete mixers and military helmets. I’ve seen it destroy drill bits trying to bust through, so I’m curious if a wheel made of this not only would achieve a higher speed but tolerate the spinning force way better.

    @Odinfang@Odinfang9 ай бұрын
  • Haven't seen Strongbad in a hot minute

    @wesleyboyer6654@wesleyboyer6654 Жыл бұрын
  • RIP Dr Pepper who made the ultimate sacrifice for this video

    @minikawildflower@minikawildflower Жыл бұрын
  • 2:30 I think it also helps that they're constantly showering the workpieces in hundreds of liters of coolant per minute

    @JustinKoenigSilica@JustinKoenigSilicaАй бұрын
  • Ok I subbed this is cool..hope it gets better

    @Slowmo896@Slowmo89611 ай бұрын
  • I think fully precision machining the wheel is gonna end up being a needed step to really optimize it, that oughta get some interesting results! And I wonder if machining a groove in a resin wheel and then encasing wire might be cool? That’d be a fun comparison to this wire one! Ye could even try making a batch with different material wire, maybe?

    @capnskustomworks@capnskustomworks Жыл бұрын
  • "How do we measure that?" With white tape or paint. Damn. Also, SURELY you can set up a safe system to read the RPMs without having to run up to it after it's already slowed down a bit. Danger isn't entertaining regarding these types of tests...at least not to me.

    @planetrob555@planetrob555 Жыл бұрын
    • Pfft, the entertainment level is directly proportional to the danger level.

      @chrisbarnes4383@chrisbarnes4383 Жыл бұрын
    • This whole video gives off unintelligent energy.

      @TranceFur@TranceFur Жыл бұрын
  • Finally, someone tackling the BIG questions!

    @imperialinquisitor510@imperialinquisitor5107 ай бұрын
  • Love the slapstick interludes, lad

    @mikejennings7779@mikejennings777910 ай бұрын
  • you could cut out a little tab/wing on the side of the wheel that will receive air resistance instead of water, possibly allowing you to test the sound barrier idea

    @ranndomundead9112@ranndomundead9112 Жыл бұрын
    • That might work. It is spinning, though... You would probably have to make almost a small cupped indent on it to catch air so it can compress. I do wonder if that would work, though... 🤔

      @yourbifriendaspen3629@yourbifriendaspen3629 Жыл бұрын
    • @@yourbifriendaspen3629 I feel like the drag would prevent him from getting to the speed required, I don't remember where I saw it but doesn't drag increase with speed? If that's true then in that case it might not be possible considering how fast it's going.

      @DoubsGaming@DoubsGaming Жыл бұрын
    • @@DoubsGaming I'm not sure, actually. It's definitely affected by speed, though. I'll look it up

      @yourbifriendaspen3629@yourbifriendaspen3629 Жыл бұрын
    • @@DoubsGaming yeah, drag increases with speed.

      @yourbifriendaspen3629@yourbifriendaspen3629 Жыл бұрын
    • ​​@@yourbifriendaspen3629 it will increase but with testing there might be a sweet spot on size of resistance

      @jonnyperales9284@jonnyperales9284 Жыл бұрын
  • Check out the fitting of bearings on good downhill longboard wheels. Bearings are always a super tight fit. Also taking advantage of how durable titanium is, you should hollow it out a bit. Like a titanium whiffle ball. I think the groove it cut in those resin wheels really affected how it was spinning.

    @mtboy33@mtboy33 Жыл бұрын
  • You have few things you need to work out with yourself but other than that you are somewhat entertaining to a guy who never smiles. Take that as a compliment...

    @RANGER73CPT@RANGER73CPT11 ай бұрын
  • Holy Sh*t you just made me so damn happy with the "Will it Blend?" reference.

    @handstanddiarrhea@handstanddiarrhea11 ай бұрын
  • Try using a fan to clear the water mist Also, thread a reflective bolt into the side so you can get an accurate tachometer reading.

    @locouk@locouk Жыл бұрын
    • that would unbalance the wheel very badly and would increase the mass. Both of those things would yield much lower RPM.

      @Sharpless2@Sharpless2 Жыл бұрын
    • @@Sharpless2 Drill the side, thread it and insert a bolt. Cut it flush and do the same on the other side at 180° to keep the balance. The cut bolt end could be painted to reflect the laser tachometer.

      @locouk@locouk Жыл бұрын
    • @@locouk why put painted bolts in the wheel? It is much easier and more effective if you just use black spray paint to make the whole wheel black and then paint a quarter of the wheel white

      @Henning_S.@Henning_S. Жыл бұрын
    • @@Henning_S. Easy, cheap, and will work a treat. I think many are overthinking this.

      @quantumleap359@quantumleap35911 ай бұрын
    • @@locouk The bolt will definitely have a different density to the titanium so that would unbalance the wheel a lot

      @TantalumPolytope@TantalumPolytope9 ай бұрын
  • Make a wheel out of sodium metal

    @memesreview5675@memesreview5675 Жыл бұрын
  • have you calculated the water speed to know if with this pressure it even possible to acheave soun barrier

    @Lord-Tim-AllanYetman-xs9wl@Lord-Tim-AllanYetman-xs9wl6 ай бұрын
  • Loved how you ground extension cords.🤣🤣🤣 How many psi do you have to have to cut sandstone?

    @jwdory@jwdory10 ай бұрын
  • Have you spun nickel metal yet? Would also be cool to see the titanium wheel lightened up and see if you can increase that spead. Maybe Nurle the outside too for extra friction with the water and media. Awesome video, now i need to convince my company to let me try some experiments 😂

    @beardedxj@beardedxj Жыл бұрын
    • Nurgle!? Heresy!!!

      @RKroese@RKroese11 ай бұрын
  • Ok that was really cool

    @radium4194@radium4194 Жыл бұрын
  • 10:11 If you had the world's first 100% energy transfer device; which would technically be breaking the rules of thermodynamics simply by the small distance.

    @TheTechAdmin@TheTechAdminАй бұрын
  • Some bullets spin close to 300,000 RPM in flight. It's crazy how they stay together without exploding as soon as they leave the barrel.

    @saltysteel3996@saltysteel39963 ай бұрын
  • I got about 56300rpm using a spectrum analyzer on the audio. 1 rotation = 1 period/rotation. It made a fundamental tone at roughly 938hz * 60.

    @fearlabsaudio7815@fearlabsaudio7815 Жыл бұрын
  • Next time use Liquid Paper. A black Sharpie over a dark surface won't work.

    @arthasmenethil2201@arthasmenethil2201 Жыл бұрын
  • The strong bad reference earned you a new sub. [:

    @Youshallbeeatenbyme@Youshallbeeatenbyme11 ай бұрын
  • There is a fine line between genius and insanity, good luck with your travels

    @mikewhitley1183@mikewhitley11835 ай бұрын
  • I broke the titanium rods in my back😅

    @mybackhurts7020@mybackhurts7020 Жыл бұрын
    • Is that where your name comes from 🤔

      @WaterjetChannel@WaterjetChannel Жыл бұрын
    • @@WaterjetChannel yes I got tired of hearing myself say it

      @mybackhurts7020@mybackhurts7020 Жыл бұрын
  • if you were to machine rutts in the wheel you may get higher speeds since the water has something to grab

    @Jinklenuttz@Jinklenuttz Жыл бұрын
  • Guys you are aware that Turbos rotate at 100k to 200k rpm

    @DanielKleynhans@DanielKleynhans9 ай бұрын
  • How fast things in the wild spin 😂😂😂 ya got me on that one, haha

    @pingerboy69@pingerboy692 ай бұрын
  • Does anyone know what happened to the original hosts of this channel?

    @josephholt7971@josephholt7971 Жыл бұрын
  • damn thats fast

    @doctor_red788@doctor_red788 Жыл бұрын
  • first video ive seen, next level commentary

    @benlarivee9625@benlarivee962511 ай бұрын
  • If you continue like this the universe will implode

    @szili76@szili7611 ай бұрын
  • The Cheat is to the Limit, cmon fhqwhgads .

    @MrAPCProductions@MrAPCProductions Жыл бұрын
    • You know me...

      @wayneswonderarium@wayneswonderarium Жыл бұрын
  • nice job 😁

    @AsitShouldBe@AsitShouldBe Жыл бұрын
  • Love the strong bad reference!!!!

    @jasondweber@jasondweber10 ай бұрын
  • 5:28 Interesting fact: In high-power rocketry they mix titanium sponge into some of the solid fuel motors and the result is a beautiful shower of sparks from the rocket as it blasts off into the sky.

    @bluewaterboof82@bluewaterboof822 ай бұрын
  • It's just not the same without Licky & the Bald Guy... rip

    @AndyFromm@AndyFromm Жыл бұрын
    • Then go find something else to watch ?

      @thewiddler1746@thewiddler1746 Жыл бұрын
    • I forget. Where did they go?

      @poisonapple15@poisonapple15 Жыл бұрын
    • @@poisonapple15 never said, one youtube comment source (saying they work with them) said that they got promoted. not strong enough evidence though

      @Decodeish1@Decodeish1 Жыл бұрын
    • @@Decodeish1 Ah ok :/ thanks

      @poisonapple15@poisonapple15 Жыл бұрын
    • ​@@poisonapple15 they have their own car channel

      @carolinacoreas7716@carolinacoreas7716 Жыл бұрын
  • Love the strong bad reference

    @Gesely@Gesely11 ай бұрын
  • Can you adjust nozle position to not cut wheel when it expand? Maybe it can help with archiving higher speeds on more flexible materials.

    @tajniak013@tajniak01311 ай бұрын
  • I'd much rather watch *you* wrestle with that stuff. Thanks for the work so we could watch this.

    @erniemathews5085@erniemathews508511 ай бұрын
  • 0:10 I laughed way too hard and I have no idea why lmao

    @Scyth3934@Scyth39348 ай бұрын
  • it did not read the speed because of the color diffrence , you can glue a white paper with a dark line on the side of the wheel. (tho in this case the water wouldnt help much.) laser readers work much better if the line is much darker than the surface , but in this case theres not much you can do but paint the wheel white. a white line would probably give somewhat innacurate reading duo to the laser being red .

    @ARISTO_Music@ARISTO_Music9 ай бұрын
  • Sounds crazy! Use 1/2 white and black too see it better. Love the video

    @calvinwright5040@calvinwright504011 ай бұрын
  • I didn’t like how few cuts i had on my hands so i decided to change that😂 genius!

    @DanielBenzs65AMG@DanielBenzs65AMG23 күн бұрын
  • This is the thing that keeps me up at night. 😂😊

    @chrispynaples@chrispynaples11 ай бұрын
  • If the wheel was a cone shape and you could move the point of impact from the big end at max RPM down to the little end it will go MUCH faster. This is due to the impact point being closer to center of rotation....like a figure skater pulling in his arms. Physics is fun!

    @gooberclese@gooberclese9 ай бұрын
  • Might drill small holes into in the side and through the wheels, taking out material to lighten it up and also creating a surface that you might be able to get a reading. Just make sure every hole is precisely located to maintain balance.

    @RT-mm8rq@RT-mm8rq11 ай бұрын
  • 7:17 nice pun with the earth/ground wire!

    @STA-3@STA-310 ай бұрын
  • When I saw the 1st video with the wheel stretching, Ive always wondered if it would be possible to stick something in and turn off the jet so the wheel closed around the the axel and the object and what would happen. Would the wheel throw it out? Cut it like an inveted saw or snap it? Or maybe it would stay in? Would be interesting to find out.

    @Woopsicles@Woopsicles11 ай бұрын
  • You should machine a spot for a magnet and use a hall effect sensor to get the rmp. It would also be really cool to see the power you could genarate from it.

    @alexfranklin6009@alexfranklin600911 ай бұрын
  • Was not expecting a flashback to my childhood 1 minute into a water jet channel video

    @sootamander4398@sootamander43982 ай бұрын
  • From someone that used to be a cnc machinist that worked with Titanium we used coolant / lubricant in all aspects , Ban saw had coolant/lube , As did the lathe and Mill and even then sometimes the machine would still catch fire if the coolant/ lube level was not paid attention to over the runs. Yes Titanium burns hot and it even requires a special extinguisher to put it out.

    @tmrdarkstar85@tmrdarkstar852 ай бұрын
  • when you used the titanium shavings as a moustache, i subbed

    @jekser2329@jekser232910 ай бұрын
  • how can u measure by sound if u break sound barrier

    @LazyAlphaX@LazyAlphaX9 ай бұрын
  • Ik the power wheels video is old but can you do more upgrades like you said in the video and maybe even make it faster ?

    @zackerypollock9839@zackerypollock983911 ай бұрын
  • Did you use the same bearings with the aluminum wheel? Guessing that's where your getting most of your sound from and the wheel just amplifies it, so the sound from one is unlikely to be the same pitch regardless since the wheel material differs. Just a thought. could also machine a line in the titanium wheel that won't wash off, then maybe the tach can see it better.

    @olds97lss@olds97lss11 ай бұрын
  • I think if the jet can move slightly so that once it’s spinning fast, you can make the jet that it only hits side of titanium. May get that speed. Nice video, new sub. ✌️

    @henryg2960@henryg29602 ай бұрын
  • the wheel sounds like a jet engine powering up when starting to spin

    @commander_snake@commander_snake7 ай бұрын
  • What you can do is cut the titanium wheels front to a slight conical like face instead of it being flat so that as the waterjet spins it the more in it goes to the center the faster it'll spin (may possibly break time and space with this method lol). Great video!

    @thatonelonelyeagle5398@thatonelonelyeagle539811 ай бұрын
    • Imagine causality being broken, not by physicists in a deep dark secret lab, but a couple of dudes messing with a waterjet when the bosses back is turned 🤣

      @zombieregime@zombieregime10 ай бұрын
  • Okay so after a brief scroll through a handful of comments, heres the suggestions I think would be most interesting to see put together Firstly, dont annodize the wheel because that will make it harder to see the marker line. Also, as a part 2 to this one, use a white or other more vibrant color marking on the wheel Second, aim the waterjet further away from the wheel's center Titanium is much harder to gouge compared to aluminum, so if you hit the wheel closer to the edge, itll spin faster (in theory) and still wont gouge. Third, I saw this interesting suggestion of making a wheel out of Magnesium because of how light it is, and then using a layer of Titanium to encase it for added strength. In theory, not a terrible idea, so maybe try that alongside a completely titanium wheel.

    @midlifehemi88@midlifehemi8811 ай бұрын
  • Assist with air and paint it black with a white or silver mark to measure RPM . Get fingernail polish that matches the silver tape that was supplied with the tachometer. The air will serve two assisting properties. The motion and lower the pressure due to that Bernoulli thing.. You could also use an air bearing for reduced friction. Make a steel spool that fits the profile of the titanium and pump air out of the center of the spool. Replace any grease the bearing might have with WD-40. Good Luck

    @dougsmith5873@dougsmith587311 ай бұрын
  • I enjoyed the recap at 1:49 And the joke about needing a water jet 😂😂 I didn't know i wasnt subbed but after our lesson in French at 3:50 i checked and was not. Am now. Good stuff. Funny good. Love from Kentucky.

    @davidwaynemain@davidwaynemain10 ай бұрын
  • Wouldnt the sound frequencies be different not only because different bearings were used but also because they're different materials? Or does that not matter or did you guys account for the material differences?

    @austinclague480@austinclague4805 ай бұрын
  • Thank you for the Strong Bad reference.

    @biomechannibal8888@biomechannibal888810 ай бұрын
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