Bad Economy Hurting Airlines
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Economy is starting to struggle and its impacting some airlines a lot harder than others.
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This is certainly the clearest, most easy-to-understand, and most informative financial story about the aviation industry that I have ever heard. "I barely finished high school." OK, Kelsey, but you did a really nice job with this.
Same. I mean, I do have a pretty high level education and have worked with numbers in the past, but...(1) I didn't enjoy it; and (2) I have no patience for all the research and cross-referencing needed to understand the big picture, and Kelsey did a great job presenting it.
“ I barely finished high school” sounds suspiciously like my brother who barely finished high school. Why? Boredom. He did the least amount possible to get his diploma. He then worked his way up in the trucking industry. He loved it and he did very well. Greatest perk? Never a boring day. Great job explaining this situation, Kelsey!
Agree! Well said and well done sir!
Indeed! A high school diploma doesn’t mean a person will make something great of themselves. You gotta keep moving onward and upward! 😊
@@pleabargn Exactly the same, except replace trucking with railroad. I was going to make a comment on Kelsey's comment but was amazed to find, right at the top of the comments, that were already comments the same. Didn't expect that! Thanks Kelsey, that's probably the only "numbers" video/meeting I've ever followed to the end rather than fiddling and missing stuff or just falling asleep. You've got good talents.
Haven't flown Spirit yet but their pioneering approach to live inflight entertainment is certainly intriguing!
😂😂😂😂
Unfortunately live boxing matches aren't guaranteed on every Spirit flight, but there's certainly a high chance of it.😂
@Evan-si5jd Nevermind free Wi-Fi; offering a bookie on every flight will bring up the tone of the place 😁
LOL! This made me giggle!!!!
Actually they are industry innovators by having gate entertainment as well. That’s the real fun!!!
I love how you call yourself "not very smart" and yet you understand all the aerodynamics you need to be a pilot and very skillfully explain the economics of the airline industry... I don't buy the dumb pilot. I find a lot of your videos very educational. Keep it up. Plus I loved the "boxing" on Spirit Airlines, very funny!
@rutontuton Who said humility isn’t profitable and nice guys finish last. He’s great.
I think he just does that as a joke sort of
A pilot is also highly knowledgable when it comes to weather conditions and patterns. The only ones smarter are the pilots that fly fire retardant drops for wildfires. The skill level for them is next level.
Aerodynamics are only a SMALL part. Weather alone is a topic that could be broken into a dozen separate sub-topics. Then you have systems. Not just how each works in the plane, but on the ground/above, and each of their limitations. Not to mention airspace, navigation, all the calculations, some basic medical information, and a whole bunch of regulations. Piloting involves a lot of information in a lot of different areas.
You'll find smart people often see themselves as "dumb" because they've opened enough knowledge doors to understand how many more doors are left to walk through. Dumb people often consider themselves smart because they know so little about the world they literally can't understand how much they don't know.
The Spirit “in flight entertainment…boxing” was one of the funniest things Kelsey has ever said 😂😂
Ive flown Spirit legitimately 100+ times and have NEVER had an issue except ONE 45 min delay bc one of the flight attendants overslept. I love spirit bc they're cheap and im 6'9 and their extra legroom seats are more comfortable than Delta/American. Id be bummed for sure. I have a Delta plat card and still fly Spirit majority of the time lmao
I was at an airport walking to my gate once and a couple of people walked past the gate where people were waiting to board a spirit flight. It was a big gaggle of people waiting to board just like any other gate, but the people walking by laughed and said, “Look how spirit boards their flights!” Like lmao literally every gate looks like that.
I've never even had a delay. lol I love Spirit. Some of the prices are almost unbelievable sometimes. If it costs 20 bucks to go 1000 miles in 2 hours, I don't need a free soda. lol
Kelsey, don't sell yourself short; your vlogs are very informative, easy to understand and provide a wonderful background for air travelers and fans.
He definitely has great vlogs. P.S. it's *VERY* interesting that the DOJ has a problem with this merger.. *BUT they had NO problems with the Vons/Albertsons/Kroger/Ralphs/Food4Less/Etc/Etc merger which severely impacted the grocery market here in CA, especially Southern California.* Why do they have no problems about grocery monopolies in CA, which *drove up the prices OF FOOD by TONS?* Most things are literally 40%+ increased in price, MINIMUM, in just a few months. Why do they have no problems with that, while having a problem with these 2 airlines merging which don't even make up a big chunk of the market?
Donation (read bribe). Spirit and Blue cant fork out the amount of cash needed to bri... Sorry i mean donate to congress.
DITTO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Im uncircumcised
Omg, those fighting scenes had me in tears!! In-"fight" entertainment.🥊🥊
As a big fan of your self-deprecating humor, I think "barely finished high school" is one of your funniest lines ever! That sounds like a degree in aeronautics from MIT to me!
As a jetBlue pilot and someone who has been present to watch the trial in person, I believe you did a great job with this video. You nailed everything and explained it well in plain language
Any predictions?
Question for you...I'm curious, at what seniority level at Jetblue would you be willing to leave for another unionized US carrier for a 20% raise? For example, going to AA, you would go to the bottom of AA's seniority list, correct? Would you're salary at AA be based on your AA seniority...or 20% higher than your Jetblue salary?
One might say he even explained it in “plane” language…😂
@derrick1707 I'm bullish on the merger overall. The DOJs case is pretty weak but that is just my opinion
@@gregb5876your pay rate is based on your date of hire at that specific airline. If you leave one airline you start from 0 all over again. Your Seniority which is based on date of hire controls whether you can hold a position on specific airframes, bases, etc. In the next couple months I'll be upgrading to captain at jetblue essentially allowing me to be paid at a higher rate than any first Officer at any airline but there will still be first officers who make more than me because they can get better schedules. At this point what's more important than the money is my quality of life and whether I can live in a base I want. The pay between majors are very similar when considering narrow body aircraft
Merger is never good for the boots on the ground while management gets the golden parachutes.
So true. A merger or bankruptcy in ANY company should null in void any golden parachute.
So become management and quit whining.
I knew right when JetBlue said they “would be able to cut costs and make everything cheaper for customers” that it was complete BS. This has never happened, costs only ever increase, it may be 3 months or 1 year later - but it will be 2x-3x as much. Lmao
@@TitaniumTurbinefares are lower than they were 15 years ago, when there were a half dozen legacies. Now with three and southwest: more flights, better planes, lower fares.
Not always true. A merger risk for "boots on the ground" is layoffs. Essentially, creating efficiencies and removing bottlenecks. The "golden parachutes" for executives is usually in the form of stock options (ie: receiving stocks instead of a monetary bonus). This is actually pretty smart as the executives are incentivized to make the company succeed (raise earnings per share) to get a big bonus. If you are referring to government bailouts as the "golden parachutes" that isn't a company problem or a merger problem, but a government problem.
Kelsey, I’ve watched you from your first vlog. I’m a CPA with 45 years in the business. Your grasp of financial statements and business concepts is way better than some of the CPA’s I know. Keep the blue side up!
As someone who is currently time building to get to my ATP, I appreciate these videos and am absolutely using them to help make better decisions on who I decide to try and work for. Thanks Kelsey!
As someone in the industry for over a decade let me tell you...there is no right choice.
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@@roytoy what about before flying an Airbus, picking the right Regional ? I'm enrolled in Skywest pathway program but I hear its tough getting hired since they're contracted with most major airlines
Nop Majors like to hire from their competitors and not their own
Kelsey, the employees at Spirit who were super nice to you were hoping to use you as a contact when they apply somewhere else. 😂
It's called 'riding someone's coat tails'
No…it’s called professional courtesy.
People really over exaggerate spirit lol Spirit isn't even bad. They literally advertise what they are lol low cost carrier. The problem is people are expecting Delta level of service knowing that spirit isn't in the same line of higher end service Now as of all the times I've flown spirit I didn't see a big difference in how nice the employees are vs any other airlines I find nearly all airline employees all nice pretty much. Also it's there job to be nice. The few times a employee will probably be rude because the customer is being rude and annoying. Overall if you don't mess with anyone. And treat people with respect, you shouldn't get bad service for the most part. The customer is the one that ultimately affects the mood of the employee
Networking 😂😂
@@JDBass36 I only ever fly Spirit. I have never had a problem. Not on the plane, at the gate, or anywhere else. The staff are always friendly and I've never seen a rowdy passenger. I've never even had a delayed flight. lol fingers crossed....The truth is what you said, though. People pay 20 bucks for a flight and then expect the world.
"In-flight boxing".....I laughed my ass off.😆
Gota love his humor... Made me laugh too, and that's a hard thing to do.
Your Spirit entertainment explanation......... TOP NOTCH 🤣 Great info, thanks for the time you put into as well. Safe travels
In person entertainment > digital entertainment
3:53 Reminds me of the recent telecom merger in Canada, where Rogers and Shaw were intending to merge, and they claimed it would be BETTER for consumers because there would be more competition (yes, they actually said that - they think we're stupid). The government said, "Well, OK, but you can't raise your prices. Promise?" "We promise! +WINK+" A recent report said they were raising certain fees. Oh and laying off a bunch of employees.
When I was in college in the 90's I didn't even have to think about flying somewhere. It was the obvious choice, even for a starving student. Last week I drove my family of six over 5000 miles round trip to see a dying family member because air travel is so insanely expensive, airlines won't guarantee your kids get to sit with you without adding fees on top of fees and even then who knows, the service is usually bad to awful, and flights themselves get cancelled at a wildly unacceptable rate. I spent over $800 on fuel and many many many hours of our time in the van and I still think it was hugely preferrable to the sh1tsh0w of flying coach as it stands today.
That's $133 a person, not bad and I don't blame you. Flying makes the most sense when it's just one or two people. A large family? Driving becomes more of an option. (This is also a big reason why high speed rail is such a horrible idea for the US)
No mention of motels. Did you sleep in the van?
@@dannydaw59 There's so many rest areas that have cheap, relatively private showers available that this is a viable option.
Hopefully it was also a family vacation with worthy family bonding experiences along the way!
This is a good one, Kelsey. You are very understandable and articulate on this very complicated subject. I would enjoy seeing you throw a few more like these out there from time to time. BTW, your content editor that you hired is absolutely killing it.
Boner time
Living on the 27 approaches of KORD/chicago o'hare during the '60s "70s and '80s was such a gas! the variety of regional and cargo airlines and planes flying was amazing. .most of these have been merged or bought up by the big airlines still fun to watch but not like the awesomeness we witnessed back then.
You have a much deeper understanding of the economic realities of your industry than you let on. I found this informative. Maybe Spirit could save some bucks on pilots if they trained them on the art of the free breakfast.
Unreal. I'm a newly minted 1500 hour pilot trying to break into the 121 world. Of course the economy would go to crap and hiring would slow and stop just as I am marketable. I hope this isn't a trend across all of the airlines.
That's really bad luck. Just a short while ago it was said that there's a shortage, now this. Wish you luck! 🤞🤞🤞
ouch, I hate to read this. I'm about to turn 48. Planning on getting 1200 by xmas with commercial and multi. I thought I would be in luck to getting into aviation by then. is there no longer a shortage? regionals not hiring either?
Dang, Kelsey, this is a great video that we normal people can actually understand. Thanks for posting the particulars--it is going to be very interesting to see how this all plays out since JetBlue is also playing the we're broke card to its investors...
Jetblue is indeed just about broke. Wouldn’t want to give the big boys any competition with this merger, though. Best to see one or both of these airlines fail, amirite?
Two railroads called the Santa Fe and Southern Pacific also concocted a merger with the intent of monopolizing rail traffic in the southwestern US and raising prices. They also told the government that the intent was to really lower prices, and then company memo came to light. Needless to say, the government denied the merger.
Considering pilots are responsible for hundreds of lives on each flight I have absolutely no problem with pilots getting paid high salaries.
Like Kelsey said they had to raise the salary at Spirit. Before the raise, regionals were paying more than Spirit. Now they have a big airplane contract and it still doesn't stop pilots from jumping ship, maybe just slowed the process. Great idea, but sounds like the suits never built that into the financial workings of the business. You can't blame the pilots for that.
So shouldnt bus and train drivers get paid the same by that logic?
@@raydearie9805 No, no comparison to Skill, Training or knowledge.
@@raydearie9805 I know the aviation market my friend, I'm just telling you how it works and has always worked. You're comparing apples to oranges.
@@raydearie9805 dumb
Jet Blue clearly hasn't been keeping up with their campaign contributions.
Yep, I love someone that gets right down to the root cause. Should be pinned.....
@@toewsandkane bs
Hitting the nail on the head
@@toewsandkane You are totally correct. These decisions are made by the staff of Executive Branch agencies, not the President, not Congress. These professional staff are almost uniformly dedicated to doing their job assiduously, and without corruption. I’ve been lucky to work with a bunch of really exceptional government employees. Too bad the general public hasn’t had the same chance to experience their hard work and conscientiousness.
I miss Continental. For a long time after the merger with United, they kept the staff divided with "United Crews" and "Continental Crews", even though they wore the same uniforms. You could always tell when it was a Continental crew.
I miss Continental, too. That was my main airline for a while. Prior to that, I used Northwest Airlines quite a lot.
There’s also a crisis and shortage in smart , Helping , educational , charismatic people like you Kelsey. Thanks so much for these amazing vids
Throughout the pandemic, via three separate statutes, the 10 major US passenger airlines together received more than $54 billion in direct payments ($25 billion, $15 billion, and $14 billion). Congress also appropriated another $25 billion in subsidized loans from the US Department of the Treasury (only a fraction of which airlines have used) and suspended the 7.5 percent excise tax on domestic air travel as well as payments to airports and contractors.
Now, we just need to look at executive pay increases, stock buybacks that only help the shareholders, and additional debts that the airlines have taken.
They need to pay those back
@@things971so should they claw all that money back from the employees that were sitting at home jerking off? Because that’s all they used that money for - payroll for grounded employees.
So what you're saying is that the airlines cannot deliver the same growth in profit to the shareholders as they did during the pandemic so now the shareholders are unhappy with them.
I just can't get as upset about subsidies during the pandemic since the government was barring businesses from normal commerce for a prolonged period.
Thank you Kelsey, Love your work.
Thank you for uploading and keeping us up to date on the information! You are an amazing creator, which is one of the reasons why I want to become a commercial pilot! You're amazing! Keep up the good work!
I love hearing your perspective on this stuff! Since I have been a business traveler for the past 8 years, the airline industry is very interesting to me. Thanks for including these types of videos in your library!
As a student enrolled in Aviation Management, your latest videos really helped me understand practical aspect of the curriculum and stay up to date. Thank you, and keep up the good work!
Love the in-depth content, Kelsey.
The "boxing" had me going for a minute. 😂😂
Good looking out for making my day my man
Loss of competition always results in higher prices!
Every. Single. Time.
Correct. I am trying to think of any merger of large corporations that resulted in lower prices to the consumer, but I am coming up blank.
Government
We are living in 'Klownworld' right now. I'm apathetic about the corporate world having financial problems. Beyond that, great content as always, Kelsey! 😃
I still have my 1977 copy of Flying Magazine which documented the history of airlines from the beginning of aviation passenger service until that year. The mergers and acquisions were numerous and mind boggling. Forty-six years later it has all changed again, practically unrecognizable from the days I flew "Braniff Intermittant--World's Largest Non-scheduled Airline, or The Proud Bird with the Golden Tail, Continental. Time flies faster than the airliners!
I flew often in the 70’s and 80’s, both domestically and internationally. Pan Am, TWA, Northwest, Continental, Southern, Eastern, Western, I could go on. Every one of those airlines are now gone. It was a different era. Full inflight meals, movies, drinks, roomy seats, and flight attendants who actually enjoyed what they did, and fares that were reasonable. It was an enjoyable experience. Today I fly only when absolutely necessary. Truly a decline from what it used to be.
I think a big factor that has been missed with this video is maintenance costs. Yes you mentioned the conversion costs of the airplane but the costs of merging maintenence is a big cost. Manuals, maintenence practices, sops, tires, engines, and fleet training.
Waking up in the morning and finding out you posted just makes my day :D
Yes, but then a sad wake up call because of the content…
Same time and place next week.
@@bertblankenstein3738 “Same Bat time, same Bat channel” 👍🏼
Anecdotal info: I used to fly Spirit all the time to see family in another state and didn't need the frills, but as soon as the merger was announced, the Spirit flights disappeared and only jetBlue flights remained (with hiked up prices, compared to before). I stopped flying Spirit (as did others) and that probably accounts for some of that revenue lost. I've always had good experience with Spirit (with lowered expectations, of course); and this is coming from someone who flies Delta for business monthly.
That’s just coincidence. They haven’t merged yet, so they wouldn’t give up those flights for that reason. They probably couldn’t fill their flights.
This was really well done! You put a lot of work into this and it shows
You are very thorough explaining things. Thanks.
I was looking into flying to Myrtle Beach in the winter time. Only Spirit Airlines was available, hard pass due to Inflight Boxing. Now I know it's a perk I will givie it a go ! Love your humor !
Other than junior pilots or pilots at the regionals, pilots don't like jumping around because they will start at the bottom at their new company because the seniority system decides their whole career at an airline. No captain I know volunteers happily to start all over on probation as a junior pilot at a new airline unless their carrier was going bankrupt.
Kelsey, I literally look forward to every new video from you!
I was with DOD and in the Army before plu during the reduction in forces after Vietnam. The Airlines were "Head Hunting" pilots and as you said; "It cost a lot to train one". We even had State Governments and private companies looking at helicopter pilots back then (almost 50 years ago). My DOD boss was a retired Marine (Col) pilot and he was always telling me about these officers making the decision to not take a "Down Grade" in rank and just go private. He told me about the cost to train these guys; "extremely high and the experience many had in flying hours". As a guy who was a teacher, two college degrees, I had three sons and money talks, ask my ex-wives! Nice post, thank you Kelsey.
I love JetBlue, I own lots of their stocks. A few years back when hurricane Maria hit Puerto Rico they were the ONLY airline offering free flights to my people to get them out the island and into the states. That ment a lot to me, ever since I fly JetBlue and I but their stock up or down.
It's funny though. When I think of budget flights, JetBlue isn't my first thought. I usually think Allegiant, spirit, or frontier.
Well that's good. Cause what I remember of JetBlue, being up in the North East, near Boston, one of its hubs. It used to be like a Spirit/Frontier. I'm talking about like when it was in its infancy.
Extremely good analysis! I have a biz degree and did all my papers in skool about aviation, including almost every paper in law skool too. You did a great job. The only issue is that the low cost carriers need to increase revenue, which means ultimately they need to fill every seat and for a price that provides as much income as possible. Raising their rates will push them into the legacy carrier cost band, and then they're screwed. Nobody will pick Spirit over a legacy if the cost isn't much different, especially when the pricing model of "everything extra" you often end up paying "real" airline money to fly. The legacy carriers could cut their rates slightly or put off scheduled increases in fares to lower the difference and stick a fork in Spirit. I hope Spirit makes it somehow, as a good friend of mine just finished his type cert to fly for them. He says they are all a great bunch of people. The main problem with Spirit is the customers. Where you find cheap fares, like cheap rent, you find higher crime rates due to the demographics. Sad, but true fact of life- cue the social justice warriors, but facts are fact.
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I really like these videos on the airline industry. Thanks Kelsey.
Thank you for a beautifully clear analysis of the problem here.
Excellent analysis and so clearly explained in layman's terms. Kelsey, you have a real gift for communication on these economic issues.
The boxing bit got to me 😂😂😂😂😂😂 different in flight entertainment
Very interesting to hear about the business side of things right now. Thanks for teaching the rest of us in a way easy to understand. Keep the great videos coming...
I like the videos you’ve made recently related to the economic impact that is happening to airlines, personnel, etc. keep up the good work ❤️
It makes sense that ultra low cost carriers would be hit hard by economic downturns. Their main appeal is to those who want or need to travel as cheaply as possible. Unfortunately those are often the first people affected by downturns.
wrong.
This downturn has hit the rich way harder than the poor.
@@qwerty112311 percentage wise yes, but when you're looking at the difference between people just barely scraping by a 1% reduction in spending money could be the difference between flying on a cheap carrier vs not traveling at all. where as some one that while sure they're getting taking a much more significant hit still can afford to travel and will likely continue to travel on the same airlines they were already using.
I've flown Spirit a few times. Mostly, they are cheap transportation unless you are going someplace with luggage (like Puerto Rico, eg). On one flight I carried just a small backpack. It cost me less to fly to my destination than to park at the airport. Going on a cruise vacation, it cost us just as much on Spirit as it would have on Southwest (don't ask). The nice thing was it seemed to take less time to get off - there weren't as many people with steamer trunks they were cramming into the overheads. Great video, K.
“Steamer trunks” 🤣🤣🤣
Flew Spirit 2x a year out of the Minneapolis MSP hub round-trip to vegas and back from 2017-2020 and LOVED it. Zero problems.
Thank you for the information! Great job!!
Yet another based and well laid out take. Thank you, Kelsey.
When Delta announced the changes to their loyalty program, I status matched with Jet Blue. I do like Jet Blue, but I’m Delta loyal so I only fly JB if I’m going to NYC or BOS. Their Mint class is enticing and way more affordable than flying in a Delta One suite to Europe. I’ve never flown on Spirit but some of my friends fly them with no issues.
Thanks Kelsey for explaining and sharing these insights. I love these videos - learning more about aviation, off the runway. Keep it up!
I love this pivot on content. Great job
This merger is a no-brainer from a competition standpoint. I don’t understand the DOJ’s issue with this merger. I like your insight on whether JetBlue will want to continue the merger with Spirit. I heard part of the reason for the merger is for pilots (like you said), but also for the planes. It’ll be interesting what the changing economy will bring. Thanks for the awesome video, Kelsey! You are one of the best at breaking things down to a level that anyone can understand.
Those companies must have not bought off the politicians sufficiently.
Na this administration just wants anyone who can’t survive their economy to fail
Thats exactly it. I cannot fathom how the government can look at these two small airlines, next to the big 3/4 that make up 80% of the market and say "oh its a monopoly if these two merge". If say, Delta bought Spirit thats one thing, but thats not whats happening. This could only increase competition against the big 4 in my eyes.
@@robmausser It may depend on what routes that JetBlue and Spirit fly. If these two airlines have a significant amount of overlapping routes, then merging these companies could result in the lack of competition, and hence higher fares.
Love your getting into what's going on behind thr seen!
Hi Kelsey, that was an excellent analysis. You really know the airline industry. All the best from Australia.
"Free inflight boxing"...The UFC should buy Spirit. Good call.
I guess to train Kelsey, it cost $50k - 100k + snacks + breakfasts or roughly $55k - 150k. (Depending on the quality of snacks/breakfast).
Well done Kelsey 👏 It was easy to comprehend and very thorough. You’re a natural born instructor! ❤️
Great insight into the airline business. The airline model is a very tough business model even in good times because of so many factors out of their control.
This is a great informative video - I love how you put things in layman’s terms, you’re a very likeable guy & a fantastic teacher, you’re humble & willing to admit your flaws & laugh at yourself ❤️ Over here in the UK I believe it’s referred to the Monopolies Commission & they’ll pull the plug on mergers & take-overs that will monopolise the market, because as you stated, when a company has the monopoly on a service/product they can name their price.
This reminds of Pan Am and TWA. They were both huge Airlines and companies, that ended up going bankrupt. It seems no Airline is safe no matter how big…
We won't be flying after 2030 anyway because we need to save the planet from climate change. Or so the powers that be say. Only the rich will get to fly.
Interesting video, bro! Thanks for the insight! God bless you. Praying for you!
Fantastic explanation to clear everything up and you’re spot on with your concerns about the deal. Thanks for making this.
I think it would be wise, if Jet Blue bought Spirit, to operate Spirit as a subsidiary with their current branding and livery for awhile. Maybe, gradually transitioning aircraft until they've all be transferred and that would spread out that cost over years. But, all things are cyclical, more-or-less to some degree, for the most part so it's likely that if Spirit could survive the current downward trend in their ticket sales in a year or two they should be seeing a rise in sales again. Great videos, by the way. Thank you.
One flight on Spirit was enough for me and means never again. One flight on Jet Blue was very good. I mostly fly SW.
I flew Spirit once and learned about getting what you pay for. I've flown Delta, American, United, SW, and Jet Blue too. So far Jet Blue has been the best value for me in terms of experience per dollar. If I'm gonna be in a flying metal tube for several hours, I'm willing to pay for it to be comfortable.
Learning a lot. Thanks for this😮
STELLAR vid, Kelsey!! Thank you so much for a clear explanation of the issues.
Funny, they didn't stop United merging in Continental, my favorite airline.
Thank you for explaining this! I used to fly Spirit quite a lot when I was flying in and out of San Jose and I thought they were wonderful because I don't need a coke and peanuts. Frontier, however, never again. Only flying the legacy guys in and out of Liberia. I need one of those lovely carpeted gangways getting on and off the plane. Flew Frontier once only in June, fell getting off the plane (no balance post stroke) split head open, concussion, torn bicep, messed up knee and took that lovely trip to the hospital. They said it was my fault because I kept asking the crew not to touch me as I came off the plane. Screws with my balance even worse to be man handled, they did it anyway. They paid the hospital bill and refunded my ticket.
Seems like it somehow WAS your fault.
😅 Spirit has never flown to San Jose SJC
Why were they touching you?
@@richardvoogd705trying to help her out of the plane
@@res887Perhaps the OP meant Costa Rica? Spirit's website says they began service to SJC in June this year.
The explanation of the differences between jetblue and spirit's business models at 8:17 was one of the best business analyses I've ever listened to.
Quite informative! Thank you.
Hi Kelsey! Firstly, I really enjoy your you tube videos. I have a suggestion for your hollywood vs reality series. I just saw a really old plane disasters movie called Airport 75. It involves a 747 en route to Los Angeles and a small single engine plane crashes into the cockpit! It’s really hokey, and the stewardess ends up flying the plane. There’s a mid-air transfer to get a pilot on board. I remember the original Airport movie, and it was good considering the time it came out. This one is just plane ✈️ crazy 😜.
I LOVE that movie, ONLY because it has my Fav 747. I watch ANYTHING that has her (747) in it, good or bad -plot. More on your point, that dingy stewardess is/was way over rated, what a goof she was, lol
Yikes! I rely on Spirit's low fares to fly between AC and Fort Lauderdale.
This is the clearest I have ever had it explained. Please make more content like this!
I fly regularly from South Florida around two or three times a month and my experience with Spirit vs JetBlue is one pre-pandemic and other different post-pandemic: Before 2020 my go-to airline was JetBlue but after 2021 they switched places with JetBlue on service level and pricing. I don't have any criticism of Spirit today other than if they just include the carry-on with the ticket pricing, they will recover a lot of business that went out to other carriers.
I just received the notification for this video at 0800 on Nov 6 and what is being said here has so many tendrils into all aspectts of our lives. Gas prices, wage increases via strikes, and even ripples from covid and its government handouts. We just received a tutorial on how economy works.
Back to the future?
It’s a shame to see the travel industry suffering as a result of the cost of living crisis, once upon a time I used to travel 3 or 4 times a year, this year I’ve travelled once, and that was for a special occasion.
I love your videos! You make them so interesting and funny!!
Thanks
Very well done. Educating people. More of it needs to be done. Thanks
I personally like the air quotes around "representing the people." Thanks for the little laugh this morning.
and yet they recently signed off on American-US Air. Delta-Northwest, United-Continental
Just passed my ppl, hope to fly with you on day. Thanks for funny and informative videos, you know how to keep us in focus till the end of it! 😊
I love your analysis for this specific merger and understand why you left out Frontier. Whilst Frontier is not a part of the picture any longer, it was a key factor in why JetBlue made such an abrupt and overpriced offer. As you are almost certainly aware, Frontier and Spirit have similar business models and do not overlap substantially, and this was a real danger to JetBlue, which has significant overlap with Spirit. Frontier encroaching on JetBlue’s “territory” would have been problematic with a combined Spirit/Frontier nationwide operating network. I view JetBlue’s attempted merger with Spirit as more of a delay or stopgap tactic at best, and the success or failure of the merger is ultimately irrelevant to JetBlue. They just don't want to compete with a combined Frontier/Spirit, if at all possible. I am pretty well certain that JetBlue is hoping that the DoJ blocks their deal and scares off Frontier.
I flew spirit once round trip. I loved my flawless trip out. My trip back was a nightmare. I have mixed feelings about the possibility of spirit going out of business. For the record I’d pay a little more for a better flight experience. At least some of the time.
Extremely good explanation of the situation many companies are finding themselves in. My world was HGV and logistics and when driver wages were squeezed lots of the guys changed careers and didn't come back. Cue lots of companies in trouble and cascade failures. Here in the UK our economy is best described as collapsing as shelves start to show gaps even at the start of a day. I like the inflight entertainment options and will remember not to book the movie if I ever fly Spirit/Jet Blue.
Thanks for the market report!