German Army: Why No Collapse

2020 ж. 9 Қар.
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The Wehrmacht during the Second World War sustained two times the deaths of the Imperial German Army in the First World War, yet it did not collapse, quite on the contrary it fought until the bitter end. Why was this the case? Why did the Wehrmacht and particularly the German Army did not collapse in the Second World War.
Disclaimer: I received a pre-release ebook of Prof. Neitzel’s Book “ Deutsche Krieger. Vom Kaiserreich zur Berliner Republik - eine Militärgeschichte ”.
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  • Because they knew that Steiner was preparing his counterattack

    @MrCaptainPatters@MrCaptainPatters3 жыл бұрын
    • Lol

      @p.6170@p.61703 жыл бұрын
    • Yes, but I heard Steiner konnte nicht genügend Kräfte für einen Angriff massieren and der Angriff Steiners ist nicht erfolgt

      @user-xq5og9lt8p@user-xq5og9lt8p3 жыл бұрын
    • @@user-xq5og9lt8p yes, but the Volksschturm battalions still hold the bridgea

      @tedarcher9120@tedarcher91203 жыл бұрын
    • lollllllllllllll

      @rustysickle2528@rustysickle25283 жыл бұрын
    • Is this Downfall or Cross of Iron? Both great movies.

      @neilwilson5785@neilwilson57853 жыл бұрын
  • “Tis’ but a scratch” “Your bloody 6th army’s off!” “No it isn’t”

    @locomotivefaox@locomotivefaox3 жыл бұрын
    • [separates Germany into east and west] "Right, we'll call it draw"

      @cleanerben9636@cleanerben96363 жыл бұрын
    • XD

      @wasntprepared@wasntprepared3 жыл бұрын
    • @@cleanerben9636 hahaha facts

      @le_travie7724@le_travie77243 жыл бұрын
    • Come along, Patsy

      @nonamesplease6288@nonamesplease62883 жыл бұрын
    • Is that Ricky Gervais?

      @cRobbone88@cRobbone883 жыл бұрын
  • *1944* *KZhead censored name* : ''How bad it is?'' *german HQ* : ''Like 2 Stalingrads and then some.''

    @sreckocuvalo8110@sreckocuvalo81103 жыл бұрын
    • Mein Gott!

      @chrishamilton2559@chrishamilton25593 жыл бұрын
    • "KZhead censored name" 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

      @KillerofWestoids@KillerofWestoids3 жыл бұрын
    • Barbarossa, Army group North and South had priority, Hitler wanted Leningrad, and the occupation of the Ukraine(food, minerals, etc). But Halder foolishly prioritized Army group centre, as if Moscow's capture would have resulted in collapse for the Red Army. No, cut the Don & Volga= Seperation of Caucasus from Russia= This would allow Germany to continue the war at full capacity, no scaling down of operations due to fuel shortage.

      @harrisonlincoln8343@harrisonlincoln83432 жыл бұрын
    • @@harrisonlincoln8343 Even if Army group South achieved reaching Caucasus, Soviet will blow up any oil installation. And as german was already struggling to supply their troop so far away, bringing oil back would increase logistical problems ...

      @alexandredelneste270@alexandredelneste2702 жыл бұрын
    • @@harrisonlincoln8343 Germany had no fuel shortages until September 1944 when the Romanian refineries were destroyed by allies flying over from Italy. German production continued to rise until this incident. Synthetic fuels accounted for over half of the fuel usage and until this incident German reserves continued to rise. A rise in reserves up until Sept 1944 indicates there was no shortage like you are expressing in your opinion which was more of a late 1942/early 43 period.

      @nyag1337@nyag13372 жыл бұрын
  • I never knew that about the cohesion. They were so ahead of the time. Contrastingly, the Americans constantly rotated men in Vietnam in order to prevent the drop in morale, creating a trend where no one cared about anyone as they were all strangers to one another. Fascinating.

    @PP-ed9cf@PP-ed9cf3 жыл бұрын
    • Makes perfect sense when you think about Vietnam was a war to sustain for MIC, not to win.

      @TheDeepestbluest@TheDeepestbluest2 жыл бұрын
    • Sometimes it can work. The french army rotate in Verdun and without that, I don't think they could resist the german offensives.

      @mitridi8422@mitridi84222 жыл бұрын
    • @@mitridi8422 I think Verdun could very well be the worst possible battlefield to be for the entire history, right next to Stalingrad. Kind of an outlier

      @TheDeepestbluest@TheDeepestbluest2 жыл бұрын
    • The romans made their troops cook and sleep together, this isn’t like, super ahead of the time

      @leadleghighkick104@leadleghighkick1042 жыл бұрын
    • @Fish poem Same thing with Afghanistan basicallt

      @dylanroemmele906@dylanroemmele9062 жыл бұрын
  • Germany 1944-45: "Yeah, that's me, you're probably wondering how I got myself into this mess."

    @todo9633@todo96333 жыл бұрын
    • @Deborah Meltrozo mess*

      @hushpuppy1735@hushpuppy17353 жыл бұрын
    • "It all started with an Art School that didn't like Architectural Paintings..."

      @ragnarokstravius2074@ragnarokstravius20743 жыл бұрын
    • @@ragnarokstravius2074 “it all started with a guy named Charlemagne...” “Wait what? What’s that gotta do with the Wehrmacht?” “WE GET THERE WHEN WE GET THERE!”

      @looinrims@looinrims3 жыл бұрын
    • cue teenage waste land.

      @mikhailiagacesa3406@mikhailiagacesa34063 жыл бұрын
    • Small hat tribe banksters, that's how.

      @Kissamies1@Kissamies13 жыл бұрын
  • "Four brave men who do not know each other will hesitate to attack a lion; four less brave men, but knowing and trusting each other, will do resolutely." Damn I haven't heard a concept explained so succinctly in a long long while.

    @scheimong@scheimong3 жыл бұрын
    • Do you realize that says more about your reading habits than the statement?

      @johnsmith1474@johnsmith14743 жыл бұрын
    • @@johnsmith1474 no need for that mate. I also thought this was deftly done.

      @iain075@iain0753 жыл бұрын
    • To understand a complex idea is smart. To summarise and explain the same is true genius

      @JackTalyorD@JackTalyorD3 жыл бұрын
    • @@JackTalyorD Fully agree.

      @anthonywilson4873@anthonywilson48733 жыл бұрын
    • @@johnsmith1474 Mind sharing a reading list so that we can all reach your intellectual heights? From your comment, it sounds like you’ve transcended the limits of human understanding.

      @mlc2016@mlc20163 жыл бұрын
  • Another thing sometimes overlooked is that, for all intents and purposes, many of the soldiers of the Wehrmacht believed themselves to be fighting in a literal end-of-the world scenario for survival, so of course they would fight harder.

    @SpaceDruid999@SpaceDruid9992 жыл бұрын
    • You mean throw down their arms and run harder .

      @jameskennedy721@jameskennedy7212 жыл бұрын
    • You mistook them for French soldiers

      @tomasbar1101@tomasbar11012 жыл бұрын
    • Any sources on that or are you just LARPing ? lol

      @TheAtmosfear7@TheAtmosfear72 жыл бұрын
    • @@TheAtmosfear7 antony beevor mentions this in his book about D-Day the german propaganda machine was extremely powerful on making their soldiers believe the german nation and its people would be utterly destroyed if defeated

      @martimnunesmartinho6788@martimnunesmartinho67882 жыл бұрын
    • @@martimnunesmartinho6788 they were and still are.

      @ahtes2458@ahtes24582 жыл бұрын
  • 16:31 Maybe the true Wunderwaffe were the friends we made along the way?

    @benjamingoto2099@benjamingoto20992 жыл бұрын
    • 😂

      @robertclark1669@robertclark16692 жыл бұрын
  • Simple, they chose to keep Prussia's ideas of 150% discipline

    @cirbam2747@cirbam27473 жыл бұрын
    • *150%

      @fabovondestory@fabovondestory3 жыл бұрын
    • eu4 references are cringe at this point

      @kamilvankravv5524@kamilvankravv55243 жыл бұрын
    • @@kamilvankravv5524 Indeed they are at- Oh! Did you see that comet?! THE END TIMES ARE NEAR!

      @cirbam2747@cirbam27473 жыл бұрын
    • And honor plus the Russians were coming.

      @christopherthrawn1333@christopherthrawn13333 жыл бұрын
    • Yeah the German idea set is not good.

      @valta5063@valta50633 жыл бұрын
  • There is a book called "The Forgotten Soldier" by Guy Sajer, a german-french draftee at the Eastfront after Stalingrad. And his experiences seem to confirm most of the points here: For large parts of the war he fought with the same guys and while he is often very critical about the treatment of the soldiers by their own army (stuff like three of his comrades dying in basic training (!)), he is mostly describing his officers as fair and competent. He is also quit clear that apparently the execution of soviet prisoners was absolute normality and they expected every german soldier to be in turn instantly executed, therefor explaining much of their will to resist.

    @SergeantAradir@SergeantAradir3 жыл бұрын
    • Great book that, agree with what you say

      @crystallineentity@crystallineentity3 жыл бұрын
    • " they expected every german soldier to be in turn instantly executed" You mean every SS soldier?

      @simplicius11@simplicius113 жыл бұрын
    • @@simplicius11 Guy Sajer (pen name) wasn't in the SS but he was part of an Elite Formation for a while and he comments that both sides were unbelievably brutal to each other, prisoner or not kinda just depended if you surrendered to a particularly angry unit

      @crystallineentity@crystallineentity3 жыл бұрын
    • @@simplicius11 Not just the SS committed atrocities against prisoners of war, partisans and civilians, especially on the Eastern front.

      @tlw4237@tlw42373 жыл бұрын
    • @@simplicius11 Soviet don't care if they're SS or not they're give all enemies same kind of treatment.

      @inquisitorsteele8397@inquisitorsteele83973 жыл бұрын
  • The concept of keeping soldiers from similar areas together to create cohesion sounds a lot like the British “Pals battalions” of WW1. Seems a great idea until someone calls for a less than ideal offensive and a town loses all of its young men in one go.

    @skorzalonsdale4426@skorzalonsdale44262 жыл бұрын
    • Better get those baby makers ready

      @johnnottellingyou2402@johnnottellingyou24022 жыл бұрын
    • Dude right. I remember a german soldier who survived speaking about hearing his best friend cry for him, wounded on the battlefield. They sent in medics and three tanks to save him but the tanks and the medics also didnt return. He could hear his best friend screaming in pain and all the time repeating his own name. He says he cant sleep in till this day wirhout hearing his then best friend cry for him. I would not like to go to war losing my best friends there. Lets never go to war again my fellas.

      @firefightergtx3281@firefightergtx32812 жыл бұрын
    • The German Wehrkreise encompassed a much larger area than the recruitment areas that the pals battalions came from, which meant that something like that wouldn't happen as easily. Still, due to the gigantic overall losses many of the small towns and villages lost a large proportion of their young men that much is true.

      @theholyinquisition389@theholyinquisition3892 жыл бұрын
    • Bro that idea is old as fuck, Swedish army used it already in the 1600's

      @SwedishEmpire1700@SwedishEmpire17002 жыл бұрын
    • It was probaly a far greater area Probaly even as big as half as a state

      @UltimaSigmarAlonso@UltimaSigmarAlonso2 жыл бұрын
  • Could you do a video on the German medical system? Including the transport of a wounded man from the frontline to hospital and how individual medics were deployed with fighting units

    @degtyarev28@degtyarev283 жыл бұрын
    • got some sources etc. on it and did some reading in summer, it will happen eventually.

      @MilitaryHistoryVisualized@MilitaryHistoryVisualized3 жыл бұрын
    • @@MilitaryHistoryVisualized kzhead.info/sun/qrhxgrSon3WqnK8/bejne.html

      @Ahmed-sf8mv@Ahmed-sf8mv2 жыл бұрын
    • There is a german book called „die unsichtbare flagge“ ( the invisible flag) by peter bamm on this subject. It is a first hand account of bamm, a field medic on the eastern front through most of the war.

      @pedersackheim4913@pedersackheim49132 жыл бұрын
    • @@pedersackheim4913 BUENOS ARIANS ARGENTINIEN ÜBER ALLES

      @danielasterling6936@danielasterling69362 жыл бұрын
    • @Oke Ihenacho youre wrong. Mengele and combat medics dont have snything in common. One was killing people and the other one was saving his friends and fellow soldiers, sometimes they helped civilians

      @mikemandalorian9226@mikemandalorian92262 жыл бұрын
  • My two grandfathers fought in the Wehrmacht. One was the driver of a panzer 4 and later Panther. He always said he and his comrades didn't want to fight any longer, however they only surrenderd when their commander gave them the permission in late 1944. He said they were lucky to surrender to the Americans. Fighting on the western and not eastern front probably saved his live.

    @grieferjesus3226@grieferjesus32263 жыл бұрын
    • A lady who was a friend of a Dutch Panzer driver for the SS Saw Russian women castrating captured German soldiers

      @brandbienedell7971@brandbienedell79713 жыл бұрын
    • @@brandbienedell7971 oof.. and another war crime. I could think about it like a continuation of the Russian morale fed by fury: « We will exist despite your attempt at the extermination and inflict immeasurable pain onto you»

      @kosatochca@kosatochca2 жыл бұрын
    • @@kosatochca Can't tell if you're being ironic or Russian.

      @vaxrvaxr@vaxrvaxr2 жыл бұрын
    • Family was from East Prussia. All of my grandfather’s brothers never came back and they evacuated in 46.

      @jaredvillhelm2002@jaredvillhelm20022 жыл бұрын
    • Be proud as you fought like tigers right to the end, im British but have the upmost respect for Germany & your grandfathers 👍

      @TheWESTSIDE1967@TheWESTSIDE19672 жыл бұрын
  • "Why don't they just quit?" "Would you?"

    @agungsugiarto918@agungsugiarto9183 жыл бұрын
    • If the opposite does

      @brandbienedell7971@brandbienedell79713 жыл бұрын
    • If the germans had any sense then they would have sought peace with the soviets in late 1942 or early 1943. When the soviets still were considering it. After Tehran though, in late 1943, that was out of the question. At Tehran the allies agreed to not accept a separate peace with germany, they agreed to only accept an unconditional peace, and they somewhat outlined how post war germany would look.

      @beninwarrior4579@beninwarrior45793 жыл бұрын
    • @@beninwarrior4579 I think they were still underestimating the soviets in 43. In the beginning, at least. I don't think that was really an option either. They controlled almost all of Europe and now they're just gonna suddenly pull millions of troops out of the east and hope to god that the soviets don't attack? that would never happen.

      @ProfShibe@ProfShibe3 жыл бұрын
    • @@ProfShibe Stalin was apparently preparing to attack in 1949 after he had finished industrializing his country. He also thought Hitler was smart enough not to attack the Soviet Union while fighting the British. Stalin was wrong.

      @Samm815@Samm8153 жыл бұрын
    • @@Samm815 Hitler sued for peace with Churchill more than once, was turned down every time. The Brits wanted to drag the US into it (again), and Hitler knew Stalin was going to attack sooner or later and figured a preemptive strike before they finished industrializating would be better than waiting for the inevitable red tide after they grew too strong.

      @MALICEM12@MALICEM123 жыл бұрын
  • I seem to remember reading somewhere (maybe Beevor) that the Wehrmacht soldiers were also scared shitless of being captured by the Red army. And i mean, given the choice of fighting to the death and spending the rest of their lives in a gulag...

    @bishop6218@bishop62183 жыл бұрын
    • @@vivaan7653 they also saw what the Russians did to the Russians . If they could do that to their own people imagine what they’d do to the enemy .

      @Boz196@Boz1963 жыл бұрын
    • The Russian POWs were left to starve to death by the Germans, so the Germans could only expect the same.

      @jeffreyb8770@jeffreyb87702 жыл бұрын
    • It is unlikely that they would have got to a Gulag. Those that weren’t killed on capture were starved

      @tonykelpie@tonykelpie2 жыл бұрын
    • POW of Soviets never spent the rest of their lives in camps. Yes, some died, but what can you expect from a country that was half-destroyed, with thousands of cities and villages burnt to ground with people living there?

      @strakhovandrri@strakhovandrri2 жыл бұрын
    • @@strakhovandrri we learn lesson. Everyone is homosexual now.

      @jeffreyb8770@jeffreyb87702 жыл бұрын
  • Had an insight as a child growing up that if you want people to die for your country, have a population that trusts each other implicitly. Flavor that trust with respect and intimacy. That way, you create a sentiment, a feeling worth fighting for until the bitter end. External pressure, applied from a chain of command or coercion applied from without will rarely, if ever, achieve the same result.

    @pikiwiki@pikiwiki3 жыл бұрын
    • The soviets still managed to defeat the germans

      @user-gu1hl2kx2k@user-gu1hl2kx2k2 жыл бұрын
    • ​@Pig Mask No soviet trusted any other soviet. Especially not after Stalin's purges. The fear of death still drove them forward and routed the Germans. If you want a loyal army, you need ideals. Country, trust, belief, hope; Whatever ideal you use isn't important what matters is that the troops believe the ideal. The German ideal was other soldiers, the Soviet ideal was the homeland as a whole.

      @ZeroNumerous@ZeroNumerous2 жыл бұрын
    • @@user-gu1hl2kx2k -- with unlimited funding from the West and a demoralized drone population. We'll never know the magnitude of Soviet war crimes, but knowing only a fraction of it can make any man greatly enjoy the bundle of sticks

      @Krestianx@Krestianx2 жыл бұрын
    • Do you have a very high IQ? This is a complicated concept beautifully explained!

      @robertwright4906@robertwright49062 жыл бұрын
    • Sorta like post-911 America but permanently

      @jaushuagrahamthefloridaman1124@jaushuagrahamthefloridaman11242 жыл бұрын
  • That little symbol for "fanaticism"... was that a 40K chain sword? How appropriate!

    @DarkFire515@DarkFire5153 жыл бұрын
    • It is the emperors will!

      @principedelamuerte3235@principedelamuerte32353 жыл бұрын
    • @@principedelamuerte3235 you mean the "fuhrers" will

      @leonardusrakapradayan2253@leonardusrakapradayan22533 жыл бұрын
    • word

      @torkittheunchained3104@torkittheunchained31043 жыл бұрын
    • Myes

      @dirtdiggler9293@dirtdiggler92933 жыл бұрын
    • Nah bruh not only that. I need you to know when he surrender that means he Will get shot or get captured by SS and go to jail they cant go to home.

      @deki9315@deki93153 жыл бұрын
  • Chainsword! There is also a scene in "Downfall", which Hitler and his loyalists were doomed in the final days, but he still comes out of his bunker for a few minutes to award a young German boy-soldier with a Knights Cross, I think for destroying a tank.

    @ByronC900@ByronC9003 жыл бұрын
    • SEVERAL tanks!

      @Teufer2@Teufer22 жыл бұрын
    • The scene and movie u are talking about kzhead.info/sun/oriheriEp4yNn3k/bejne.html

      @cptslick141@cptslick1412 жыл бұрын
    • What's truly amazing, that even at the end, Hitler could visit the frontline without fear of being shot by his own men. Now compare that to the so called 'leaders' of today.

      @harrisonlincoln8343@harrisonlincoln83432 жыл бұрын
    • @@harrisonlincoln8343 Probably because of that darn propaganda, and not the fact that they were fighting the most gruesome terror regime humanity has ever experienced. Oh, and of course - its enablers -- us.

      @Krestianx@Krestianx2 жыл бұрын
    • @@harrisonlincoln8343 No no, therer were a large amount of his army who tried to kill him. He, i think, survived around 40 assasination attempts.

      @andresvalverde5182@andresvalverde51822 жыл бұрын
  • More troops died in captivity, rather than on the battlefield. More after 1945 when the war was already over. Many knew what is coming and preferred to fight to the bitter end.

    @joepopes7923@joepopes79233 жыл бұрын
    • Check out the channel Crocodile Tear. Excavation of mass burial of German fatalities in Austria.

      @DVincentW@DVincentW3 жыл бұрын
    • Not true, around 430k-500k german soldiers died in captivity, whereas, 5.3M German soldiers died during WW2

      @bussolini6307@bussolini63073 жыл бұрын
    • @@bussolini6307 source ?

      @oliviermosimann6931@oliviermosimann69313 жыл бұрын
    • Source?

      @stirlingramsay@stirlingramsay3 жыл бұрын
    • kzhead.info/sun/pbeYZZ2If5qFZ4U/bejne.html

      @bussolini6307@bussolini63073 жыл бұрын
  • when your army fights to the end thats a true loyal army

    @alexthedemon2203@alexthedemon22032 жыл бұрын
    • Or truly fanatic Or truly desperate

      @vake1234@vake12342 жыл бұрын
    • @@vake1234 Bullshit. They defend there family's and th want to protect Germany.

      @konradlllstaufer156@konradlllstaufer1562 жыл бұрын
    • @@konradlllstaufer156 Nah, if Germany would have surrendered early on or the soldiers would have rebelled, Dresden and other places might have survived. Nobody was protected by the ongoing war, they brought shame to the country by not rebelling against a leadership that had lost their minds.

      @dabozzcrg@dabozzcrg2 жыл бұрын
    • @@dabozzcrg i am sure you would have rebelled.

      @zoolkhan@zoolkhan2 жыл бұрын
    • Really? Loyalty to the Nazi cause? Ah, that's absolutely wrong! They were under a brutal Dictatorship and were forced to fight. There was nothing loyal about it. Now SOPHIE SCHOLL should be a SAINT! Her and the White Rose group are heros. They made the ultimate sacrifice.

      @w.allencaddell6421@w.allencaddell64212 жыл бұрын
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    • @@principedelamuerte3235 Jop. Ich schau mir die Videos immer nur ohne Ton an, kann ich mir leider nicht anhören auch wenn die Videos toll sind. Ein deutscher Channel wäre nett.

      @foty8679@foty86793 жыл бұрын
  • This just goes to show that a successful military is built from the bottom up.

    @ShortVideosRUs@ShortVideosRUs3 жыл бұрын
    • like most succesfull things

      @AR-GuidesAndMore@AR-GuidesAndMore3 жыл бұрын
    • True

      @dablb@dablb3 жыл бұрын
    • Only that the wermacht was not succesfull. They failed in all their strategic goals and lost the war, which costed their nation an immense price in men and material and led to them being divided and occupied.

      @Vlad_-_-_@Vlad_-_-_3 жыл бұрын
    • @@Vlad_-_-_ I mean successful as in they were a very professional, effective fighting force that achieved great success despite oftentimes overwhelming odds. The war only lasted to 1945 because of how effective the Wehrmacht was. If the Wehrmacht was more like the Italian army, I suspect the war would’ve ended by 1943 at the absolute latest.

      @ShortVideosRUs@ShortVideosRUs3 жыл бұрын
    • @@ShortVideosRUs 1943? I wouldn't think of Italy being able to conquer Poland, let alone France.

      @ragnarokstravius2074@ragnarokstravius20743 жыл бұрын
  • I knew you were worried about your videos seeming too click baity, but I think this particular video did a good job combining both the at a glance interest, and the well researched information. Good work; you make this website better.

    @pjnoonan2211@pjnoonan22113 жыл бұрын
  • "Dying its not very tactical" Sad krieg gas mask noises

    @bocktordaytona5656@bocktordaytona56562 жыл бұрын
    • Ah, man of culture aswell

      @David-ni5hj@David-ni5hj2 жыл бұрын
    • Lt gather your men... We're out of sandbags.

      @Triezu@Triezu2 жыл бұрын
    • Ah, I see.. You're a man of culture

      @danonen7316@danonen73162 жыл бұрын
    • They didn’t have enough e-tools.

      @kuailiang6312@kuailiang63122 жыл бұрын
  • My Russian grandfather’s village was drafted in 41 and of 300 something men under 100 returned. My dad’s grade had 2 classes and next grade had only 1 class because no one to have children from those years.

    @taterater1052@taterater10523 жыл бұрын
    • I heard of a Russian saying: Mjasma boedjin. Terrible spelling probably. It means something like: plenty of meat. We all know of the numbers Russia used, but bringing it to this personal level hurts.

      @sjonnieplayfull5859@sjonnieplayfull58593 жыл бұрын
    • @@sjonnieplayfull5859 I have never heard of it and I can literally not read what you mean.

      @Alsemenor@Alsemenor3 жыл бұрын
    • @@Alsemenor "мяса поедим"? Я тоже без понятия, что он несёт

      @user-xq5og9lt8p@user-xq5og9lt8p3 жыл бұрын
    • @@user-xq5og9lt8p Пургу просто несет, вот и все. Эксперт хренов

      @Alsemenor@Alsemenor3 жыл бұрын
    • @@user-xq5og9lt8p да тут 90% комменторов тупари

      @lisiidmitrii1043@lisiidmitrii10433 жыл бұрын
  • I think you forgot one MAJOR reason for maintaining cohesion. You should have added that during the last months of the war German soldiers were defending their own home land, the places where they grew up, their own families. Especially at the eastern front where German soldiers feared for their own families due to the fate many eastern families suffered during German occupation. German soldiers knew about what had happened - scorched earth was almost harmless in comparison. This stabilized or even increased the morale to keep fighting, defending in particular. Much in contrast to WW-I where German soldiers kept occupying/defending foreign soil in FraBeNeLux.

    @knutritter461@knutritter4613 жыл бұрын
    • I thought about this for a bit and i asked myself: if this was only about fighting for you country, why didn't the french fight harder? Or the polish army. Of course they fought bravely in many battles. But if you look at the statistics for example in Poland you see that of 1.000.000 Men in the Army, 66.000 died, ~700.000 were captured, 133.000 were wounded and around 100.000 seemingly were able to get away. Not really an example of fighting to the last men for your home country. I'm sure they didn't lack courage. So what was it that made them incapable of fighting on after their chain of command and supply line was brought down? I think it was indeed the unit organization. German squads were trained to fight and think independently even if they lost contact to the rest of their battalion. If you're not trained to fight without orders, what will you do? If you then bring in good unit cohesion, like described in this video, it explains why those squads, separated from their leaders wouldn't just give up. They'd try to withdraw and gather somewhere else. They'd also try to damage the enemy if they see an easy target. Or - if they cannot get away - they'd just fight on to the last man. It would turn the battlefield into a enormous guerilla operation with hundreds of thousands of little squads trying to kill you wherever you go and turn it into living hell for the enemy.

      @kln1@kln13 жыл бұрын
    • @@kln1 well for one, the germans defeated the french very quickly and didn't treat them or the population badly so the french had no good reason to fight to the last. The germans however knew how the Sovjets would just massacre and rape their families and how they'd get killed in captivity and they knew how russians treated each other plus they knew of the insanity of communism. Quite a lot of reasons to fight. Germans weren't nearly as motivated to defeat the Americans and British since they mutually treated each other well and respected military code. Germans frequently surrendered with only few or even no losses to the allies, something they'd never do to sovjets. The solution would have been to have the germans not surrender but withdraw all troops to the eastern front while allowing the usa and uk to take over Germany. The war could have ended a lot sooner like that. Another theory would be if the allies had not supported Russia and left Germany alone doing its thing, Germany could have defeated the russians and then subsequently the germans would have lost further reasons to fight and would have gradually yielded control back to the population of occupied territories with pressure from the allies. They' would have deposed of Hitler anyway, just a question of time really, particularly troops returning home would have been keen to just waltz in and kick him out. Plans were actually made for that, thousands had already planned on fighting the SS and storming the capitol. I think a really big problem was how the allies killed so many german civilians. They couldn't be trusted as also proven by the actions of the us government in the years after the war, they irresponsibly pushed civilization very close to a all out nuclear war, tested bombs on their own populations and own soldiers and until this day have pulled Sheanigans meddling in other countries causing wars and mischief. In other words had the allies been such angels like they were portrayed to be in Hollywood movies, the germans might have never bothered fighting them so intensely. In all honesty who really trusts the us government, even their own people don't, what do us citizens fear the most? their government.

      @witoldschwenke9492@witoldschwenke94922 жыл бұрын
    • @Lex Bright Raven Joseph Goebbels told the Germans in his total war speech that if the Germans lost the war the Soviets would rape and kill their families. He was right, I'd hardly call that propaganda. The only propaganda here is the ones propagated by the Allied powers. 2 million German women raped from ages 6 to 60. Don't be gross and defend this, I'd fight to the death too

      @user-pn3im5sm7k@user-pn3im5sm7k2 жыл бұрын
    • @@kln1 I’d say the Germans held a significant advantage in maneuverability, allowing them to capture and encircle entire enemy armies. Essentially cutting huge portions of enemy combatants out of the fight. The Soviet Union generally could not out-maneuver the Germans-especially on their home territory. It simply became an unstoppable force hitting an immovable object. Not only that, but the German army had more squad autonomy-whereas once the officers fell in the French or Polish, the Unit would begin to fall apart while the German army had sufficient NCOs. At least in my view.

      @anaxagoras2930@anaxagoras2930 Жыл бұрын
    • @@witoldschwenke9492 > didn't treat them or the population badly (except the French Jews)

      @lqr824@lqr824 Жыл бұрын
  • Tbh that organizational theory is so useful. I did marching band in college, and the interaction between the students/leadership/staff/university definitely resembles that described in this video. We always performed a lot better when we felt that we had a good group, and that the staff and university weren't making silly university politics power moves.

    @TheRiskyBrothers@TheRiskyBrothers2 жыл бұрын
  • My grandpa fought in stalingrad and died in march 43 as pow. He was an officer and I think due to that he was allways informed about the strategic situation. Nevertheless, the letters from the Kessel to my grandmother were written in a style that never gave an idea of ​​the tragedy that happened in Stalingrad. Nobody would write that like that today. what I mean by that is that this generation was totally different from ours today. That's why it's so difficult for us to understand why they fought to the end. To write it in current language: They were just tougher than us.

    @borislei@borislei3 жыл бұрын
    • @@freebidou Yeah and because the Nazis wanted too burn/gasing the People they saw as non human, like Women and Children this people without honor.

      @petermannheim6527@petermannheim65273 жыл бұрын
    • A different breed of men

      @jojodelima1953@jojodelima19533 жыл бұрын
    • Tougher or naive ?

      @goatface6602@goatface66023 жыл бұрын
    • @@goatface6602 naive in Stalingrad?

      @borislei@borislei3 жыл бұрын
    • @@petermannheim6527 false meme

      @r0e404@r0e4043 жыл бұрын
  • Wow, Sönke Neitzel is like THE guy you always see on german TV in documentaries on ww2 and the wehrmacht, really awesome for him to be on the channel!

    @darthpatricius@darthpatricius3 жыл бұрын
    • Bernhard is really good at this, and is gradually working his way toward being a member of the top tier of history broadcasters. His hard work will pay off.

      @jimplaysric@jimplaysric3 жыл бұрын
    • He wrote some really interesting books that I can highly recommend.

      @Bullet_Tooth84@Bullet_Tooth843 жыл бұрын
    • He sounds exactly like every Nilfgaard Character in the Witcher 3 video game

      @morgoth1179@morgoth11793 жыл бұрын
    • Seeing an expert on TV is very often a sign of relative incompetence.

      @johnsmith1474@johnsmith14743 жыл бұрын
    • Sönke said that the German Empire was the main reason for WW1...

      @unrealtinec2398@unrealtinec23983 жыл бұрын
  • I seem to remember that John Keegan wrote that the Wehrmacht in WWII was the only army in the world where the officers and men ate the same food. I can't remember which one of his works I read that though.

    @JohnSmith-wy2or@JohnSmith-wy2or3 жыл бұрын
    • That would actual have a bigger impact than most may think at first glance It’s the easiest way for the common soldier to see the difference, it was common for officers of merchant fleets centuries ago to eat good while the basic sailors ate watery flour essentially and that was never appreciated

      @looinrims@looinrims3 жыл бұрын
    • @@looinrims Want to give both of you an example about this, and what was said in the video. First background: I was a platoon sergeant of a tank platoon in the Bundeswehr, and maybe you might know, a lot of habits in leadership are basically the same like in the Wehrmacht. We once had an exchange program with the Canadien army. Can't actually remember, but all Canadien army personnel has to go to the arctic for a winter warfare training. Our company was invited as guests to join this. It was 2 weeks training and preparing at the Canadien homebase, and then 2 weeks on an island in the arctic ocean (january, 700km north of polar circle, no daylight. up to -50°C at lowest, but that's another story). In exchange, after this 4 weeks the Canadiens came to Germany to our homebase and trained them on the Leo 2, including gunnery, etc. First and above all: the Canadiens were extremely hospitable! After more than 20 years I am still most impressed if I think back. And, apart from what I write following this, they were good men and soldiers! Second: First difference, the Sergeants and WO's of the C. had quite a high reputation, experience, were old (average I would say 35) and were highly respected, BUT had comparebly (for their service time) low responsibility. They mostly served as platoon sergeants or were involved in assisting the company commander/lead. Platoon leaders only were officers, while only one of them was ... I would say half ways experienced. Company lead was a Major, I would assume arround 40 years. On contrary we, "ze Germans": Me for example, I was 26, Oberfeldwebel with little over six years in service, platoon sergeant (trained as platoon leader which back in my time all "Feldwebel" were) and had the same position like one of the Canadien, old sergeants. 2 of our 3 platoon leaders were NCO's as well, and they were both younger than 35, say 12 to 14 years in service, while the only officer leading a platoon was an "older" first luey, with like 8 or 9 years of service. Our captain turned 30 years back in this year. First example of leadership: One of the corporals was ordered to take care of the fuel status of the platoon snowmobiles. I was very close to the sergeant and his young luey when this happened: The sergeant suggested and advised his lieutenant to not forget the fuel of the snowmobiles. The luey acknowlegded, then ordered his sergeant to order somebody (!), to check and refuel if neccessary. The sergeant again ordered one of the corporals to take the platoon, and check/refill fuel. The corporal now, took every soldier in the platoon (18 men, with us 4 Germans on their pltn), went outside and ordered everybody to check the fuel status/refill. Outcome: more than half of everybody was just standing arround, doing nothing. Senseless action in our view, which we Germans couldn't really understand. Most likely, if it would have been a German platoon, the leader would have just tasked 3 or 4 men to make sure tomorrow morning every snowmobile is full with fuel, and report execution afterwards. Best example: One day we headed out for a trip to wherever on the island. The whole company on snowmobiles. As we started, the Canadien Major stood outside, cup of coffee in his hands, and waved with his other hand ... he never attended any trip on the outside, like life fire, ice fishing, seal hunting, nor did he share any day in a tent when we were in the bivouac. This is absolutely unthinkable for a German company commander, even if he would be the greatest asshole! The Major even asked our officers to stay and join him on the base camp, which they politely refused. A German CO would have been at the front of the column, would have given the "forward march" sign, and would have been the leading vehicle. Especially this Captain we had this time was one of the most aggressive ones I had in tank warfare. He really led from the front, means he was in every attacking drill the first tank, ruthless - but for sure not headless - attacking. Imagine the Canadien major ... would he be the first as well? Trustfully leading and carry his company? I don't know (actually irdk, maybe it could be) ...

      @9thbloodandfire508@9thbloodandfire5083 жыл бұрын
    • A pretty big claim. Would prefer it if there was more than 1 source.

      @artificialintelligence8328@artificialintelligence83282 жыл бұрын
    • @@9thbloodandfire508 your first hand experience is very insightful. Thanks for sharing, I’ve such high respect for the Bundeswehr.

      @Bulbagaba992@Bulbagaba9922 жыл бұрын
    • @@looinrims an extreme exampl here: WWI, Battles of Isonzio. The italian officers were having lavish meals, while the troops were starving in the trenches.

      @undertakernumberone1@undertakernumberone12 жыл бұрын
  • This channel is so good! I really appreciate the thorough, clear, well- supported explanations and the lack of mythologizing or demonizing that sometimes goes along with these topics.

    @FlatSpinMan@FlatSpinMan2 жыл бұрын
    • Glad you enjoy it!

      @MilitaryHistoryVisualized@MilitaryHistoryVisualized2 жыл бұрын
  • This is exactly what I was told by a panzer commander. Born in Austria he was drafted and because of his college education he was put in charge of an assault gun. He said they knew the war was lost but they kept fighting in order to not let their comrades down. He fought on the Eastern front but in April of 45 he and his crew were able to get to American lines due to a Black "Red Ball express" driver who piled them in back and got them across the Elbe. He was an MD and the chief toxicologist for Pennsylvania when I met him.

    @pauloneil8531@pauloneil85313 жыл бұрын
  • Ive never thought of someone who died in battle as "tactically failed" but it is a valid viewpoint

    @DingoAteMeBaby@DingoAteMeBaby3 жыл бұрын
    • *Existentially impaired*

      @tedarcher9120@tedarcher91203 жыл бұрын
    • what did Patton say, you don't win wars by dying for your country, you win wars by making the other poor bastard die for his

      @FloridaDeere@FloridaDeere3 жыл бұрын
    • Except war tactics often expect a percentage of casualties for many situations. One does not charge a village with suspected multiple hidden machine gun nests without expecting casualties.

      @Wassenhoven420@Wassenhoven4203 жыл бұрын
    • @@Wassenhoven420 one flattens it with artillery, giving the casualties to the other site

      @theonlymadmac4771@theonlymadmac47713 жыл бұрын
    • @@theonlymadmac4771 when one does not have artillery tho

      @theirishempire4952@theirishempire49523 жыл бұрын
  • A VERY interesting and crucial subject. Tons of books are written about military hardware, operations and strategy, a lot less about the human factors like psychological mindsets, training and organization.

    @RouGeZH@RouGeZH3 жыл бұрын
    • This is why China had better start a war with India NOW because the Indians, although behind the curve logistically and technologically, have the advantage in terms of cohesion. In 20 years, the number of combatants will greatly favor the Indians and they will have caught up technologically as well.

      @rembrandtshadows@rembrandtshadows3 жыл бұрын
    • @@rembrandtshadows Why does China need to attack india? India will not be a world aggressor.

      @Wassenhoven420@Wassenhoven4203 жыл бұрын
    • I wonder if genetics plays a role. The stereotype of Germans is that of efficiency, conscientiousness, diligence etc. Stereotypes don't appear from nowhere. If you visit Germany it is a very clean, well-maintained place. There are strong taboos concerning things as minor as dropping litter. I wonder if their refusal to surrender reflects a natural tendency to work extremely hard, follow instruction etc.

      @transamination@transamination3 жыл бұрын
    • @@transamination Its more intrinsic then you think. An example: i dont throw litter around because i dont want to wade in litter, i dont care if anyone watches. This place is also mine or someone elses in a way, even in a city. Therefor i respect it, as if it were mine. I have been educated since i was a little kid to respect everyone and behave honorable and give my best, especially in my work, regardless of profession. Not for someone else, but for my own pride and honor. I consider this mindset typical german. The resulting taboo is more of a pity towards contrary behaviour. To stay with the litter example: you would not get frowned upon (at least not the same way as if you showed your dick around) but earn more of a cold reservation by the observers.

      @janeymers7154@janeymers71543 жыл бұрын
    • It's because NOBODY wants to talk about it. My grandad didn't talk about his experiences in the war until I came around.

      @Samm815@Samm8153 жыл бұрын
  • Komet sighted “The end is near for our enemies” Stability -1 ‘a vase fell over’ Stability +1 ‘I didn’t like that vase anyway’

    @Cobretsov2022@Cobretsov20222 жыл бұрын
    • Ah yes Hoi4 references

      @Luna_Xiii@Luna_Xiii2 жыл бұрын
  • My father was a senior officer on the Allied side, rising to Major by the end .... He talked very little about WW2 although he did D-Day, Caen, Market garden and so forth. One of the few things he would say however was that he was happy to lead his men into a battle from the front and did. Because he explained .... "My boys liked me and I wouldn't get a bullet in the back, indeed they looked after me as well as they could .... unlike most of the officers who were appalling idiots and often got mysteriously shot"

    @captainblacktooth371@captainblacktooth3712 жыл бұрын
  • "Why No Collapse?" - Good question!

    @Wehrkreisersatzkomma@Wehrkreisersatzkomma3 жыл бұрын
    • Well kinda collapse but very late.

      @bingobongo1615@bingobongo16153 жыл бұрын
    • Because it didn't

      @da1vinci1edi@da1vinci1edi3 жыл бұрын
    • most the nazis in power remained in power in the allies part

      @da1vinci1edi@da1vinci1edi3 жыл бұрын
    • TIK history revised

      @tyvamakes5226@tyvamakes52263 жыл бұрын
    • I guess they knew how badly their leader had behaved and so believed they were fighting for their lives.

      @entropy5431@entropy54313 жыл бұрын
  • 10:32..."He was almost Führious"...I zee vhat you did zere!

    @FutureCanadaBlue@FutureCanadaBlue3 жыл бұрын
  • I served in a US Marine Corps Reserve unit for 6 years. When you serve together that long, you really become brothers. Many were promoted from within and based on performance. Despite how long we knew each other there was accountability. In the upper ranks, if they made one significant mistake, your run was over. I still keep in touch with my Marine brothers 20 years later...

    @adamj8385@adamj83852 жыл бұрын
    • "Once a Marine, ALWAYS a Marine". Semper Fi!

      @sirridesalot6652@sirridesalot6652 Жыл бұрын
  • My father once said to me , You don't shoot to kill , But to wound . It takes men out of the battle to assist the wounded .

    @roberth3094@roberth30943 жыл бұрын
    • Interestingly enough this seems both humane and coldly calculated. I guess it can be both.

      @IudiciumInfernalum@IudiciumInfernalum3 жыл бұрын
    • @@IudiciumInfernalum or inhumane if you remember that being injured instead of killed outright doesn't guarantee survival. It only guarantees you'll live long enough to die in panic while your friends die trying to drag you to safety.

      @private2809@private28093 жыл бұрын
    • Who are still armed & can kill you, no, it's war & shoot to kill & remove the threat

      @TheWESTSIDE1967@TheWESTSIDE19672 жыл бұрын
    • @@TheWESTSIDE1967 Your belief goes against military tactics and training. You shoot to eliminate the threat. Wounding them is a bonus.

      @roberth3094@roberth30942 жыл бұрын
    • @@roberth3094 really, so seeing as most wars are won in the air i think you'll find that wounding would be a bit hard as the objective is to kill, & a wounded soldier would just be a magnet for the enemy to shoot allies trying to retrieve him

      @TheWESTSIDE1967@TheWESTSIDE19672 жыл бұрын
  • "Forgotten Soldier" Guy Sajer Why you don't lose.

    @clintonholenstein9348@clintonholenstein93483 жыл бұрын
    • Brilliant book

      @lesismore5458@lesismore54583 жыл бұрын
    • Great book but I hear a lot of it is disputed. Even if it's fiction it's still a great read

      @jackobrien47@jackobrien473 жыл бұрын
    • I want to read it so bad, but its a expensive book in my country

      @nico-zt9od@nico-zt9od3 жыл бұрын
    • @@jackobrien47 Some of it reads as a bit suspect, but it's usually obvious when it's real. Overall, I think it paints a great picture of what a German soldiers experience would be in 1943-45

      @neilwilson5785@neilwilson57853 жыл бұрын
    • Yes! A phenomenal book, I read it decades ago and its still invades my thoughts from time to time.

      @Janetsfear@Janetsfear3 жыл бұрын
  • A very interesting review of the question, as usual!

    @jessealexander2695@jessealexander26953 жыл бұрын
    • The great war, wow I'm a fan of both of your cutaneous.

      @vonkaiser6817@vonkaiser68173 жыл бұрын
  • Curiously Finland did the same in the Winter War; units made out of men that are practically neighbors. This was discontinued in the Continuation War, I believe, because it would leave some areas especially devastated when their region would take all the casualties of a particularly deadly battle.

    @Jairion@Jairion3 жыл бұрын
  • I worked for LtCol McBreen, smart dude. I was pleasantly surprised to see you reference him.

    @jackburton9550@jackburton95503 жыл бұрын
  • I was happiest in the Navy when my shipmates were competent, my officers were personable and cared about us, the Navy was giving us great food (I'd been through an Army base on the way there and the food was awful), and the civilians focused on the Army and Vietnam. When my leaders got worse and Vietnam soured everyone I got out to a military hating public. Just my experiences

    @bradjohnson4787@bradjohnson47873 жыл бұрын
    • Agree 100%. USN 1974-1978

      @j.w.matney8390@j.w.matney83902 жыл бұрын
    • Thank you for ur service sirs

      @jeddkeech259@jeddkeech259Ай бұрын
  • The US MoH posthumous award percentage comparison is flawed in my opinion. While the numbers you give are correct, that it for the entire time it has been awarded, from the US Civil War, up until today. But if you just look at WWII, the time period that the Knights Cross was awarded, out of 471 MoH awards, 273 were posthumous, or 58%. The reason for this is because for a long time it was really the only award that could be given, the US military didn’t have dozens of metals and awards. So sometimes it was even awarded for non combat actions for example Thomas Ryan Jr got one for saving a woman from a burning hotel. It was also over awarded for political reasons in the early days as well. In an effort to boost public opinion of the occupation of Veracruz in 1914, 54 MoHs were awarded for an action where only 21 Americans were killed. You could argue that the reverse happened during the Iraq war when people who should have gotten it didn’t because that would have made it a ‘real war.’

    @jhunt376@jhunt3763 жыл бұрын
    • Yup, though the Department of the Army has gone back to some of the older awards and revoked them as MoH.

      @johnalan6067@johnalan60673 жыл бұрын
    • Thank you, but a source would be appreciated!

      @brenokrug7775@brenokrug77753 жыл бұрын
    • Mind giving some of those iraq war examples? I already feel like I should be angry about something but I don't know exactly what.

      @Betrix5060@Betrix50603 жыл бұрын
    • @@brenokrug7775 Wikipedia TBH. I knew enough about this history of the medal to tell that that comparison was suspect and I knew about Veracruz and that a huge percentage was posthumous in WWII. So I just went to Wikipedia to verify the specific numbers for WWII and Veracruz. So yea, kinda shady but enough for a youtube peanut gallery comment. It’s worthwhile to point out that this is all public record so if you really wanted to, you could verify those numbers with primary sources. Although some of the super early records, like from the Civil War are potently incomplete because it was so long ago and because it wasn’t as big a deal back then as it is today.

      @jhunt376@jhunt3763 жыл бұрын
    • @@Betrix5060 Here are some examples. Some of this might be political like I said before. But I also think that part of it is that it has become so associated with being given posthumously, that they are generally less likely to give it to people who lived. www.wearethemighty.com/articles/medal-of-honor-heroes/

      @jhunt376@jhunt3763 жыл бұрын
  • Good video, still some aspects are missing, for example 1. Defending in Germany against the Bolsheviks and everything that came with them 2. Knowing that a defeat would be ultimate and not just another lost war. 3. Not wanting to surrender "too early" like in WW1 one.

    @AceVentura94@AceVentura943 жыл бұрын
    • All those points originate in Nazi propaganda.

      @Monferrato94@Monferrato943 жыл бұрын
    • @@Monferrato94 you are an idiot if you don’t think Stalin was trying to expand his influence. Hell they already tried to invade Europe in 1920 but were too green and lost.

      @yeedbottomtext7563@yeedbottomtext75633 жыл бұрын
    • @@yeedbottomtext7563 i am not arguing the imperialism of USSR, but what the common german soldiers thought about what was going on in WW1 and the fate of germany after WW2 both come from NAzi propaganda. Germany does still exists today doesnt it? and germany surrendered to late in WW1, else we would have gotten a better peace deal.

      @Monferrato94@Monferrato943 жыл бұрын
    • And an insane leader who cared nothing for his soldiers survival

      @tonykelpie@tonykelpie2 жыл бұрын
    • @@Monferrato94 sure but it was partially true. just look how terrible the eastern block fared. all the eastern former udssr countries were horribly poor and still are. Had the germans known what would happen afterwards they certainly would have fought even harder against the sovjets, i know i would have, the existence of the communists almost destroyed the world as we know it

      @witoldschwenke9492@witoldschwenke94922 жыл бұрын
  • the best channel on youtube for German military history! sadly i only found the channel a couple of months ago so im playing catch up.

    @dannythomson5239@dannythomson52393 жыл бұрын
  • A good comparison would be how the US Army treated replacement soldiers and how it reconstituted units in WWII. The US Army did not keep units together and it issued individual replacements to units rather than reconstituting the unit as a team as Germany did.

    @mikeblaw@mikeblaw3 жыл бұрын
    • tell that to the grandpa German 716th Static Infantry Division = the majoority of this team were elderly Germans and conscripts from other German occupied countries, especially Ukrainians. Then there was the 709th Static Infantry Division another winning team organized by the wehrmacht consisted of conscripts or veteran personal either previously wounded, 'older' men, lacking combat experience, conscripts suffering from medical conditions, like ulcers etc. what a team.

      @fluffy1931@fluffy19313 жыл бұрын
    • I think it's generally recognized now that the replacement depots (ReppleDepples in GI parlance) were a bad idea. What is interesting is that the U.S. National Guard divisions, which were generally recruited from the same states or regions, fought as well as regular troops, probably because of that regional identity shared by the troops.

      @chrisschultz8598@chrisschultz85983 жыл бұрын
    • @@chrisschultz8598 It may have been bad for unit morale, but I don't think the war department had much of a choice. Once a unit landed in Europe, that was it, they were in for the long haul. With high attrition rates, no one could afford to rotate whole divisions or even regiments off the line for any substantial period of rest and refitting. The only hope for men in the rifle companies was if their division commander was perceptive enough to establish in-house programs to acclimate replacements, which did happen more often than people give the US Army credit for.

      @redaug4212@redaug42122 жыл бұрын
    • @alfred lauridsen LMAO? The US entered Europe in 1941, when their enemy was NOT weak by any stretch of the word.

      @obiwaankenobi4460@obiwaankenobi44602 жыл бұрын
    • @@J01123 You realize Italy's in Europe, right?

      @obiwaankenobi4460@obiwaankenobi44602 жыл бұрын
  • I’m sure the fear of the same outcome after the first war played a part

    @pzkpfw2310@pzkpfw23103 жыл бұрын
    • Well, by resisting until the end the outcome became much much worse than it would have been had Germany surrendered, say, in July 1944 after a successful Operation Valkyrie.

      @serenissimarespublicavenet3945@serenissimarespublicavenet39453 жыл бұрын
    • but its turns out the outcome is better then the collapsed of the german empire, i mean yeah german got divided after the war, but still economicly stable.

      @Lawbringer.@Lawbringer.3 жыл бұрын
    • @@Lawbringer. Oh, please! Germany didn't exist between 1945 and 1990. Before the Marshall Plan the allies wanted to starve the Germans to death 'till there were half of them, and they were all supposed to be subsistence farmers. East Germany wasn't economically stable at all and is in fact, to this day, one of the poorest areas of Europe, comparable to Romania or Ukraine. Nobody in Germany has the pride of being German anymore and all traditions were and still are on their way to be eradicated from the face of the Earth.

      @serenissimarespublicavenet3945@serenissimarespublicavenet39453 жыл бұрын
    • Unconditional surrender as a concept and demand made any sort of compromise impossible, even if members of the German High Command wanted to reach an agreeable peace with the Western Allies. Talk which was seriously considered-in particular the infamous book "Germany Must Perish!"-gave credence to this idea and ironically it may have been the Soviet threat that prevented them from being carried through. Nonetheless destruction was massive as can be seen in the documentary "Hellstorm."

      @Zorro9129@Zorro91293 жыл бұрын
    • You mean the establishment of a liberal democracy (Weimar) and free parliamentary governed society?

      @johnsmith1474@johnsmith14743 жыл бұрын
  • They were "Bands of Brothers" from the same regions, town and schools who fought to the end for the survival each other.

    @GH-cp9wc@GH-cp9wc2 жыл бұрын
  • Excellent as always, thank you! Fröhliche Weihnachten!

    @grassmonster@grassmonster3 жыл бұрын
  • I would presume that medals to still living soldiers has a better motivating factor then posthumous ones. But what I found quite ignored in the video even it was mentioned shortly at the beginning was the societal cohesion. I am sure that all Wehrmacht soldiers were quite aware of the big difference of the war in the East to the one at the Western front. The war in the East was a war of extermination and was incredible brutal. I think that as the Soviets pushed them more and more back towards Berlin that the soldiers felt also the fear of bloody revenge not just for themselves but for the country they fought for (to some degree) and that knowledge of brutal revenge against themselves as a fighting force but also civilians (which could include relatives and friends) let them fight with a bigger motivation as well as when you would fight just for yourself and your close buddies around you.

    @getreal2977@getreal29773 жыл бұрын
    • agreed, both sides of the eastern front were likely motivated by the horrific nature of the fighting and that probably in part explains the continued resistance in the face of immense casualties both the russians and germans faced.

      @jakeb6703@jakeb67033 жыл бұрын
    • @das datics When you sow wind, you're gonna reap the whirlwind.

      @lordmuhehe4605@lordmuhehe46053 жыл бұрын
    • Tbf on the western front you’d think this would manifest as a desire to just surrender the gentleman’s contest before the barbarians batter down the hatches in the east. But they still fought hard.

      @jmass4207@jmass42073 жыл бұрын
    • @@jmass4207 except the Allies often seemed to be talked about as a house of cards right? Both the German and Japanese military strategy was geared towards a fast and brutul conflict assumed to expose the western allies as soft and febil in battle. Further, there was an assumption that the civilian populations would withdraw there support for armed conflict once casualties began mounting. Logic on the Western Front may have been something like: smash the allies with the support of new superweapons (again, rhetoric around the Ardenne offensive was a fast and brutual conflict) and once they have withdrawn, return to the East which is now one front.

      @e.s.2808@e.s.28083 жыл бұрын
    • This is a good point. I saw on KZhead an interview with former German soldiers of WW2, talking about their experiences. They were in the interview old men. One of them said they tried hard to stop the Russians, particularly to protect the civilians and especially the women. "But we could not", he said. By the end of the battle of Berlin, there was no more ammunition left. The economy was destroyed. There was no means left with which to continue fighting, against overwhelming odds. Many men held the last bullet in reserve, to use it on themselves rather than be captured. Some units were still fighting, when they discovered that the city had surrendered. Some men committed suicide on the spot. Others were taken POW.

      @brydenholley1904@brydenholley19043 жыл бұрын
  • This is confirming my own theory and experiences as an R.A.F. member in the early 60's. I was never in a war but was in a bad situation - isolated in the Libyan desert for 2 years. The officers left us entirely alone. We and the N.C.O.'s controlled everything - and even they would be reasonable if argued with or defied over some genuine and intelligent reason - all the silly discipline was ignored. But we did our actual jobs better than when we were posted to a less pressured yet more formally disciplined environment. We also behaved in a very eccentric manner.

    @2011littlejohn1@2011littlejohn13 жыл бұрын
    • Your story reminds me of the one Twilight Zone episode

      @dylanroemmele906@dylanroemmele9062 жыл бұрын
    • @@n8wolf575 Well I googled your acronym's translation - we knew it as the Baader Meinhof gang so you can try the same regarding my acronym but I'm surprised at your ignorance. Also as I mentioned never being involved in any war that should have told you that I did not mean the organization which you suggested. Also I said the early 60's the terrorist organization you mention wasn't founded until the 70's.

      @2011littlejohn1@2011littlejohn12 жыл бұрын
    • @@2011littlejohn1 your answer doesnt change anything. its just bullshit :)

      @n8wolf575@n8wolf5752 жыл бұрын
    • @@n8wolf575 Do you not know what the RAF is?

      @vaclavjebavy5118@vaclavjebavy51182 жыл бұрын
    • @@n8wolf575 It's the bloody Royal Air Force you muffin

      @vaclavjebavy5118@vaclavjebavy51182 жыл бұрын
  • In relation to cohesion, Antony Beevor writes that officers would ensure that some level of Christmas celebrations took place in the Stalingrad Kettle even giving up their own rations so that their men could have a little bit more food.

    @alang6402@alang64023 жыл бұрын
    • Myths die hard .

      @jameskennedy721@jameskennedy7212 жыл бұрын
    • They slaughtered their horses, but had no heat to cook the meat.

      @jeffreyb8770@jeffreyb87702 жыл бұрын
    • Beevor is full of crap

      @MagpieOz@MagpieOz2 жыл бұрын
  • Wow, EXCELLENT break-down of Facts & Figures, and how it/this was Presented - a lot of hours & hard work - Vielen Dank ! !

    @eL-mr__Mario@eL-mr__Mario3 жыл бұрын
  • I love your work because of this, it is not just some clickbait but has some academical value in it.

    @enesaykut408@enesaykut4083 жыл бұрын
  • 11 minutes in - the one thing that all soldiers demand of their superiors is fair treatment. In its absence, there is no trust, and leadership is diminished.

    @philipsturtivant9385@philipsturtivant93853 жыл бұрын
  • I think this is my favorite video yet!! Excellent work

    @tolkienfan328@tolkienfan3283 жыл бұрын
  • Military sociology is faschinating. I'm glad you included Professor Neitzel's discussion, which was quite thoughtful (well-reasoned). It reminded me of my old college advisor, Professor Charles Moskos, who has been deceased for a while now but was one of the truly founding members of the field of military socieology.

    @williamtell5365@williamtell53652 жыл бұрын
  • I appreciate the use of relatable examples as opposed to just numbers for us Americans but you misunderstand, we only comprehend quantities in terms of loaded buses, foot ball fields, and Texas. 15,541 loaded buses. 13 foot ball fields 2.57% of Texas's population

    @BazzBrother@BazzBrother3 жыл бұрын
    • We Germans use Soccer Fields and Saarlands. For comparison, one Texas is 270.7 Saarlands

      @rumo893@rumo8933 жыл бұрын
    • Don't forget Olympic swimming pools

      @Crosshairselite@Crosshairselite3 жыл бұрын
    • We also won all of the super bowls that were hosted.

      @concert_band@concert_band3 жыл бұрын
    • Would those buses be the standard British vague quantity unit of double-decker London buses? Or some US-only thing like yellow school buses or Greyhounds? And where does that other British standard of vagueness “so many times larger/smaller than Wales” fit in?

      @tlw4237@tlw42373 жыл бұрын
    • Or in atomic bomb casualties

      @looinrims@looinrims3 жыл бұрын
  • I've missed my infographic fix. Glad to see the format still going.

    @JagerLange@JagerLange3 жыл бұрын
  • It was a delight to view a video that actually cites its sources. Very few videos go that far - and most only use a single source. Thank you for the interesting video!

    @secuter@secuter3 жыл бұрын
  • That was one of the most informative features i have seen on here. It actually answered some of the questions i had as an avid war historian. It also debunks tge annoying myths about fanatics and blind loyalty. The German army of ww2 was just basically very good. To fight on 2 fronts against 3 superpowers for as long as it did deserves examination. Thanks to the channel.

    @zulubeatz1@zulubeatz13 жыл бұрын
  • Another great video man! This is why I will always stop what I'm doing to watch your videos. Keep up the good work!

    @danielschueller9713@danielschueller97133 жыл бұрын
  • Excellent analysis, right to the point. Many years ago I had a chance to meet a Polish guy from Slask (Silesia) who fought on both sides: first as a conscript in Wehrmacht, then - after his unit surrendered in Italy, as a volunteer in Polish forces in the West. He earned an Iron Cross on the Eastern Front as a Wehrmacht soldier and Krzyz Walecznych (Cross of the Brave) on the Polish side - and he was an excellent, loyal soldier on both sides. Why? Because he was a honest man; he fought for his friends, who covered his back, for his officers, who were strict, but fair and who shared the risk. The magic of unit cohesion. Propaganda had nothing to do with it, he was never a nazi, a lifetime social democrat; trust and loyalty to people he met personally were a deciding factor. He had no regrets after the war, he just tried to do what he believed was right at the time. OKW (Oberkommando der Wehrmacht) was also very smart about units allocation to various theatres of war; Poles from Slask, posted to the Eastern Front, had absolutely no problem fighting Russians, who invaded Poland in 1939 two weeks after the Germans did; Russians were seen as an enemy by most. Some of the ex-Wehrmacht soldiers who joined Polish units in Italy were allowed to display their German decorations on Polish uniforms, if they were earned on the Eastern Front; the Brits were not impressed.

    @f1lutek@f1lutek3 жыл бұрын
    • That's amazing! Also I refer you to Lauri Törni, "the man who fought in 3 armies" kzhead.info/sun/iN5rcdFxeJqvZGw/bejne.html

      @Zorro9129@Zorro91293 жыл бұрын
    • That is not the sign of an "honest man." It is a sign of a man of low character who will kill for pay to get along. Wake up.

      @johnsmith1474@johnsmith14743 жыл бұрын
    • All volunteer forces, which include most NATO nations, then consist of men (and women) of low character. Wake up.

      @OneCoolMF@OneCoolMF3 жыл бұрын
    • @@matztertaler2777 Well then I would like to see what you would have done in his situation. Either fight both the russians and germans and probably die, or go along with them and hopefully live. Sometimes life isnt about a country or flag but really just staying alive. Wake up to reality

      @canadious6933@canadious69333 жыл бұрын
    • @@matztertaler2777 okay god. Whatever you say

      @canadious6933@canadious69333 жыл бұрын
  • Thanks for your work. Very professional, detailed and informative

    @giovanniworldinscale1014@giovanniworldinscale10143 жыл бұрын
  • Fascinating video, so happy to see someone cover this topic

    @jacobbuxton932@jacobbuxton9322 жыл бұрын
  • I'm reading 'Das Boot' at the moment and while in part fiction, it has similar themes of the basic crew trusting their officers without knowing what actually was going on outside the boat and just bonding among each other over the 'conquests' they made on leave. Actually, it paints the one guy who ate up the Nazi propaganda as an outsider, who had difficulty integrating into the crew. They were fighting for each other. Once the boat gets hit 'der Alte' basically just walks around keeping up the morale while the crew does its job.

    @JamesTMaclean@JamesTMaclean3 жыл бұрын
    • The people in the submarines believed that they were an indomitable elite and were treated as such by the nazi propaganda. If they had won the war, they would have received great medals and an estate in the enslaved eastern territories. That is why they fought, all this comradeship nonsense was just there to make the suffering and mass death more bearable.

      @ThePurzlina@ThePurzlina3 жыл бұрын
    • @@ThePurzlina Well life in a submarine was abysmal and a huge proportion perished underneath the waves.

      @Zorro9129@Zorro91293 жыл бұрын
    • @@Zorro9129 75% of those who chose to go to subs died..... that's a huge death count.

      @keksimusultimus4257@keksimusultimus42573 жыл бұрын
    • @@ThePurzlina I take it you never felt true camaraderie before? Because that doesn't even resemble what normal people think. It almost sounds like...propaganda.

      @googleshill9343@googleshill93433 жыл бұрын
    • @@googleshill9343 Sorry, what are "normal" people in your opinion? People who kill each other with tanks and bombs?

      @ThePurzlina@ThePurzlina3 жыл бұрын
  • Cohesion: Everything I was missing in my army time (not u.s.) Not much trust between each other No trust between subordinate to leader Identifying myself with the armed forces would've been the last to happen after I die (i was conscripted fyi, no shiny mustangs in my contract)

    @Juppie902@Juppie9023 жыл бұрын
    • Under what Flag?

      @shakalpb1164@shakalpb11643 жыл бұрын
    • Millions of American enlistedmen wish they were you and didn’t buy a mustang at 40% interest

      @looinrims@looinrims3 жыл бұрын
    • @@looinrims I’m sorry, what?

      @SantaClaus-kk8zr@SantaClaus-kk8zr2 жыл бұрын
    • @@SantaClaus-kk8zr a joke in the us military is recruiters trick people with promises of stuff like free cars which isn’t true so they buy them at horrid interest rates as a low pay low rank soldier cuz...they’re dumb I guess

      @looinrims@looinrims2 жыл бұрын
  • Sonke looks exactly how I'd expect a leading professor of military history to look.

    @derekk.2263@derekk.22633 жыл бұрын
    • Indeed.

      @jebatevrana@jebatevrana3 жыл бұрын
    • ​@typo pit are you just claiming that Neitzel is part of 'a government funded hate campaign'? :D Do you know any of his research?

      @maibws9170@maibws91702 жыл бұрын
    • @typo pit Literally zero connection between Neitzel and IM Victoria. Do you have persecutory delusions? "Forgers"?

      @bezahltersystemtroll5055@bezahltersystemtroll50552 жыл бұрын
    • Like a book worm? All scholars look like that, they have to be.

      @user-ox7xr8nu4t@user-ox7xr8nu4tАй бұрын
  • Best fighting troops ever, all modern armies since have attempted to emulate the German battle groups.

    @NEEJER@NEEJER3 жыл бұрын
    • My dad who fought from Kasserine to Sicily, etc Normandy and Germany , said the same. Had nothing but respect for them, but He killed plenty. Only one death bothered him to his grave. Also said the officers were always the best dressed even in losing. If they had been led by Patton , The whole world would be American, at least those who survived.

      @bloodyspartan300@bloodyspartan3003 жыл бұрын
    • @@bloodyspartan300 I think Israel has the best army and the best-trained troops because of the countries they are surrounded with

      @lman3983@lman39833 жыл бұрын
    • @@lman3983 That might be true now , but back then If they had listened to Patton, and we had the Germans with us there would be no communism today and the US would not have fallen as it is in the process now.

      @bloodyspartan300@bloodyspartan3003 жыл бұрын
    • Ok wehraboo, go lick some boots

      @christophmaier4397@christophmaier43973 жыл бұрын
    • @@bloodyspartan300 Thank to god the world isnt american, biggest nightmare i can imange

      @warcrimeenjoyer881@warcrimeenjoyer8813 жыл бұрын
  • I thought it was the same reason the red army didn't collapse It was a fight for survival, more than a war especially since the red army would show no mercy

    @delgande@delgande3 жыл бұрын
    • Well, turns out such a fight for survival was only perceived, considering the Red Army did show relatively more mercy.

      @artificialintelligence8328@artificialintelligence83282 жыл бұрын
    • @@artificialintelligence8328 They were equal to the Germans. They shot the Waffen-SS on sight, raped by the hundreds.

      @obiwaankenobi4460@obiwaankenobi44602 жыл бұрын
    • @@obiwaankenobi4460 At least they didn’t exterminate the German populace like the Nazis were going to do to the Russians for lebensbraum.

      @raptordoniv6779@raptordoniv67792 жыл бұрын
    • @@raptordoniv6779 ha, they exterminated their own population instead so the nazis wouldn't have to

      @witoldschwenke9492@witoldschwenke94922 жыл бұрын
    • @@obiwaankenobi4460 you misspelled millions

      @Blackdeathgaming-yv1kk@Blackdeathgaming-yv1kk2 жыл бұрын
  • Great content ! As usual !

    @XenoLife@XenoLife3 жыл бұрын
  • Fascinating. Thank you for another superb and informative video based on solid research and sources.

    @robynn144@robynn1443 жыл бұрын
  • Well, fighting to avoid/escape Soviet reprisal is a pretty intense motivator.

    @1977Yakko@1977Yakko3 жыл бұрын
    • Deserved soviet reprisal

      @christophmaier4397@christophmaier43973 жыл бұрын
    • @@christophmaier4397 not really, it was a preemptive strike. The Soviets wanted war regardless, by their own doctrine they had a duty to spread. A lesser known fact was that many of the western allied leaders wanted the war too.

      @MALICEM12@MALICEM123 жыл бұрын
    • @@MALICEM12 stop trolling and release sources, stalin was nowhere close to declaring war in june 1941 and the allies leaders most certainly did not want war, in france war was completely out of question, chamberlain tried his best to avoid it and the US was in total isolation

      @christophmaier4397@christophmaier43973 жыл бұрын
    • @@christophmaier4397 Its such common knowledge that Germany and USSR were going to war no matter what. You look like a fool, go read. The only shocking part was the Germans attacked so early.

      @Fooney1@Fooney12 жыл бұрын
    • ​@@christophmaier4397 Stalin was preparing for war with Germany. But he was nowhere near ready in 1941 (thanks to himself for killing or demoting half or more of his senior staff in the army). And the western allies knew war was coming and started preparations. France even "invaded" Germany when they attacked Poland (not much came out of that obviously as they had terrible command and understanding of modern war). Anyone with at least a little interest in WW2 knows that...

      @alexwaligora1179@alexwaligora11792 жыл бұрын
  • Nearly 40 years ago, I wrote my (Brit) Army Staff College Commandant's Paper on the cohesion of soldiers, sub-units and units in combat. The research and thinking that I did in the course of that project utterly changed my understanding - and ever since then, it has been quite clear to me that most/nearly everything that is said about the British Regimental System being fundamental to British fighting power is mostly hot air spouted passionately in defence of a thoroughly outdated (but very cosy) system which has much more to do with preservation of privilege than it has to do with combat power. Even at 6 minutes into this I'm hearing loud echoes of what I learned waay back then.

    @philipsturtivant9385@philipsturtivant93853 жыл бұрын
    • Correlli Barnett made the same argument in 'The Desert Generals' in around 1960, I believe.

      @dovetonsturdee7033@dovetonsturdee70333 жыл бұрын
  • When I was in the US Army in Korea, we had a soldier join our platoon who had been a driver at brigade headquarters. I had to school him on how line units work: a platoon is a family. The platoon sergeant and LT are out mom and dad. We live, eat sleep, and work together. We know each other's strengths and weaknesses. We may not always like each other, but we stick together and look out for each other. Later I became a unit armorer, and found out that even in a line company, the headquarters platoon was a bunch of backbiting Blue Falcons with no sense of camaraderie.

    @michaelhorning6014@michaelhorning6014 Жыл бұрын
  • I think you overlooked the primary reason the Germans fought to the end: The Potsdam Conference produced the unconditional surrender ultimatum. Motivating the German nation to fight on was a simple task for the propoganda machine. Also, fear of Soviet brutality left them little choice. Observing the events of both fronts, it is obvious that units were far more willing to surrender to the West and often fought to the last against Soviets. Many German veteran memoirs lament the resources used in the Battle of the Bulge not being used against the Soviets. Overall, I would have to say that fear, combined with your points here, allowed Germany to fight to the bitter end.

    @teddy122389@teddy1223893 жыл бұрын
  • Well, there was a massive collapse in 1944 - particularly in France. Then came the drawn out death phase (late '44 and early '45).

    @kristianpoulherkild3401@kristianpoulherkild3401 Жыл бұрын
  • Click like before even watching. Love this channel.

    @johnc7385@johnc73853 жыл бұрын
    • Same, every time mate😁

      @Mewithabeard@Mewithabeard3 жыл бұрын
  • I like your focus on stats as well as anecdotal evidence to make your points. I was a little surprised that you didn't mention music as a prop in soldier morale. As I understand it, the Germans had songs for each branch of the service and individual components, like Panzer and Luftwaffe. I had a software instructor who was a submariner in the German Navy. He told me that, indeed, his branch of the service had their song, but he was unwilling to talk about it. I ended up failing the class, by the way. Cobol. Coming back from class one night, I met a two cars drag racing on a bridge. I planted the brakes. We just missed, but the decks of cards (that's the way programs were recorded in those days) scattered over the floor of the car. All the cards mixed together. No time to fix it because I was transferring to a new duty station within two weeks. Anyway, say what you want to about Germans or Germany--they know music. And they're good at it. kzhead.info/sun/qJSbc9Wio5WdgGw/bejne.html

    @groussac@groussac3 жыл бұрын
  • 18:57 I see the reference. The Emperor protects, brother. Really enjoying your videos!

    @PexDoombringer@PexDoombringerАй бұрын
    • Thank you!

      @MilitaryHistoryVisualized@MilitaryHistoryVisualizedАй бұрын
  • From the discussion, German Wehrmacht had traits and cohesion very similar to the Roman Legions of ancient Rome. That was great information presented. Providing insight how the German military could remained together as a formidable fighting machine, despite the overwhelming loses and forces they endured in later part of the war. Thank you and Cheers!

    @rwcowell@rwcowell Жыл бұрын
  • Yep .. small unit camaraderie and 'sense of belonging' is very important. The Section / Platoon becomes your family .. your home. Reinforced when cemented by a competent Platoon Sergeant and well lead by the Platoon Commander.

    @thomasmusso1147@thomasmusso11473 жыл бұрын
  • I would argue the German army did collapse on the western front, at the end they offered little resistance and surrendered in mass. Sun Tzu once said, "put your soldiers in a position of no escape, and they will prefer death to flight". That would sum up the eastern front, even when cohesion broke down, morale remained "high", they knew they had no hope of survival and death fighting would be preferable to the horrors of being a soviet prisoner - if even lucky enough to be taken alive and the desire to try to protect the civilian population further reinforced that idea.

    @scruffy50531@scruffy505313 жыл бұрын
    • @@HA-gu1qk Cringe

      @iiitrifle9895@iiitrifle9895 Жыл бұрын
  • Thank you for this video. The book is not yet available in English, so I rely on your video. Much appreciation!

    @carrion_man3700@carrion_man37003 жыл бұрын
  • I find information here to be a very interesting and provided in extremely professional manner, subject it's generally not a pleasurable one, but well explained

    @grzegorz9837@grzegorz98373 жыл бұрын
  • Robert Citino touches on this in some detail with the officer corps and why they fought to the end.

    @kushanblackrazor6614@kushanblackrazor66143 жыл бұрын
  • 18:57 bonus points for subtle w40k reference

    @SNOUPS4@SNOUPS43 жыл бұрын
    • No. No there isn't.

      @princeofcupspoc9073@princeofcupspoc90733 жыл бұрын
  • Thanks, it was very interesting and a good counter argument to the views of Omar Bartov.

    @anonymouse68@anonymouse683 жыл бұрын
  • Schönes Video, danke dir.

    @SirThomasMarcGobel@SirThomasMarcGobel2 жыл бұрын
  • Because Steiner’s attack will fix everything

    @starwing0@starwing03 жыл бұрын
  • Another thing to look at with the German officer corps might also have to do with a great number of them were prior enlisted, either during the time of the Reichswehr or even during the war. As a current soldier, this does help to influence of trusting my superiors, knowing that they have gone through the same hardships or treatment as myself at one point in their careers.

    @njake19@njake193 жыл бұрын
  • Thanks for the very informative video!

    @WW2SolitaireBoardGameChannel@WW2SolitaireBoardGameChannel3 жыл бұрын
  • I can highly recommend the book by English historian Ian Kershaw titled "The End" which deals explicitely upon the questions and reasons why the German nation fought to the bitter end, while all the time knowing that defeat was inevitable.

    @SNP-1999@SNP-19992 жыл бұрын
  • The whys of the competence and cohesion of the Wehrmacht are studied by modern armies for obvious reasons; the basics though are understood by many of the more professional armies as common threads throughout history-think both Republican/Imperial Rome, Imperial Britain, Imperial Japan just as more obvious though not exactly the same. Those death sentence comparisons were glaring between the WW1 and WW2 German forces, I'd never seen that brought out in such discussions before.

    @oldegrunt5735@oldegrunt57353 жыл бұрын
    • @Great White Simply calling them "foreigners" paints a completely false narrative. Towards the later era of the Western Roman Empire, they were simply mercenaries who held more allegiance towards particular generals than to the Roman state itself. The idea that it was "foreigners" who destabilized the Roman Empire is preposterous. After all, the Empire at its height encompassed territory from Britain to Syria, all of whom would consider themselves "Roman." The whole reason the Empire managed to survive in the first place was the fact that it integrated populations to the Roman way of life in the first place, were it not for that why is that there are so many Romance languages in the first place rather than the French speaking Gaulic?

      @pseudonymous1382@pseudonymous13823 жыл бұрын
  • "Not for Blind Fanatism" *Picture of a Chainsword*

    @maukka1545@maukka15453 жыл бұрын
    • äijä

      @TheZINGularity@TheZINGularity3 жыл бұрын
    • Maukka - If you don't mind me asking, what is a "chainsword"?

      @karlmuller3690@karlmuller36903 жыл бұрын
    • @@karlmuller3690 Exactly what it sounds like, a sword with a blade of a chainsaw, chainaxes are even superior ;)

      @TheZINGularity@TheZINGularity3 жыл бұрын
    • @@TheZINGularity - Ouch!! Sound bloody painful, I can tell you!! Thank for the (gruesome) reply!! : ()

      @karlmuller3690@karlmuller36903 жыл бұрын
    • @@karlmuller3690 If you're interested in science fiction, I recommend checking out Warhammer 40 000. That's the universe the chainsword is from and it's all about everything gruesome and miserable!

      @maukka1545@maukka15453 жыл бұрын
  • Vielen Dank für diese Episode. You brought questions and answers I never heard about before about Wechmacht. I am going to check right now if you have an episode about the links and relations between Wehmacht and Waffen SS :)

    @remicaussin5217@remicaussin52173 жыл бұрын
  • For some civilian comparison, I commuted to my local university which had a lot of students who lived on or near campus and most of those students came from other cities in my region and I felt totally out of place and in no meaningful way a true part of the student body. It was very alienating for me as a lot of students didn't understand the realities of commuting and most on campus clubs did not make any attempts to be more accessible to local, commuter students such as myself. It was the worse time of my adult life and I will always deeply regret it. I'm so bitter. I feel if I had been in university with more commuter students or at least more students from my own city then I would've felt like I belonged and was a part of my university's community.

    @joeblow9657@joeblow96573 жыл бұрын
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