Introductory Metal Shaping Class 101
2024 ж. 20 Мам.
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Taking a flat piece of metal and shaping it to a buck section. This class will demonstrate the usefulness of knowing how to shape metal using old school techniques on fabricating repair panels.
#metalshaping #buildingskill #carrestoration #metalfabrication #classiccars #trainingclass #englishwheel
The sound of the English wheel when the metal gets smooth is so satisfying. This is also one of my favorite metal working machines.
I totally agree!
As a young person who understands the value and importance of craftsmanship it deeply suffers me that we are ignoring and loosing these precious information as we lost many masters over time. I appreciate and thank you for sharing your experiences and techniques with us!
Thank you berk, I appreciate your comment. I plan on doing many more videos to share some of my knowledge to others.
@lexius thank you so much for your comment. That means a lot to me. I hope to add many more videos to my channel.
You sir, have an excellent way of conveying the important information! Might I add, without all the "uh" and stumbles you see on common KZhead videos. Truly a professional! Thank you!
That is very kind of you to comment on the way I communicate in my training videos. My wife tells me that I usually get the information out with only one "take". Take care Codys_fab.
Excellent video, slow and thorough, explaining what you are doing without waffling on, thank you for sharing and good luck with your business and channel 😊
Thank you Andy, I appreciate you comments.
Dear Sir, You have solved the problem of my immediate world. Thank you Thank you Thank you. What a great teacher you are. I’m sure your students appreciate you. They should. I’m restoring a 1947 Spartan Manor Camper trailer and will now attempt for the third and hopefully final time to recreate a front corner skirting piece. Thanks again
I am so glad I was able to assist you Dan with my simple video on the many aspects of metal shaping on a Tear Drop Trailer fender. Within the last 5 years I found that my gifting was to be a teacher/instructor to keep this trade in the forefront. You are very welcome.
This really is an artistic craft. You really seem to check and recheck your work to make sure it's following the path you want it to, but you also have to have a vision for what you want and know that it's not gonna start off perfect, but gradually arrives there. Absolute masterpiece of a video, this was just what I needed to see!
Thank you Zak, I really appreciate your kind comments and I am glad you were able to glean from my presentation.
Wonderful video Kevin, thank you for sharing your knowledge!
Thank you Andre!
Very well done video Kevin, and explained perfectly! Thank you for sharing your knowledge.
Thank you Steve, I really appreciate your comment as I am always trying to improve on my explanations to those watching. I plan to do many more demonstrations in the near future here on my channel. Take care!
@@KingdomMetalWorks sounds great, I look forward to seeing more for you.
On my wifes phone, I subbed, and will when I get on mine, so a 2 for one! Great job, these are the videos I love!
I got it! This is my channel
@@myconight Glad you enjoy the videos!
Good video. Never thought of leaving the waffle edge until late in the wheeling process. Thanks
You are welcome Bill!
Can't express enough how much I appreciate this video. thank you.
Thank you very much for your kind comment. I look forward to making many more here on my channel.
@@KingdomMetalWorks I am planning on attempting a wide body (fender flares) on a 70's muscle car. I dont want to use the ABS aftermarket stuff, prefer making my own. You have a number of vids here that help in achieving that. Do you by any chance sell more in-depth instruction on specific projects?
@@gmarch4618 Hello again @gmarch, at this point in my teaching/instructing career, I do not sell any instructional material. However, I offer one-on-one metal shaping classes in my shop/classroom here in western KY. Many students will opt to do their own project as the means to learn metal shaping techniques and complete a good portion of their project to take back to their shop. If this is something you may be interested in, email me at kingdommetalworks@gmail.com for more information. Take care
Was a pleasure to watch your video. Thank you!
Thank you! I appreciate your comment. I plan on making many more in the near future.
What a tremendously satisfying process.
Thank you Cholula Hot Sauce...I appreciate your comment.
You are a true master craftsman great video and well presented
Thank you Andrew, I appreciate your comments.
Very well done video. Very well explained. Thank you very much for sharing.
Thank you Steve, I really appreciate your comment. Take care, Kevin
Fantastic work, thanks for sharing.
Thank you j clark! Glad you liked it.
Gracias a todos estos grandes maestros por compartir su conocimiento. Felicitaciones !!!!!! Saludos desde Colombia.
Muchas gracias!
Excellent video. I love it!! Good job!!
Thank you, glad you enjoyed it!
That English Wheel is a thing of beauty.
It really is Jasinarok, I am very fortunate to have it in my shop.
Hi Kevin. I enjoyed watching your video, again.
Thanks Thom!
Hiya Kevin great video so informative thank you for passing on your knowledge ♥️👍
Thank you Dean, I really appreciate your comment.
I really enjoyed watching this l did some wheel work in the early sixtys l have been in crash work and restos for sixty years and still doing re builds in my own shop. Cheers les from Adelaide south Australia
Hello Leslie and thank you for your comment. Glad you enjoyed my video, I hope to make more this winter when I am done traveling and teaching....Cheers back to you Mate!
True craftsmanship.
great vid, well explained obviously a great tradesman thankyou from england
Thank you Trevor, I really appreciate your comment. I will continue to bring my best material to this channel over the coming years.
Hello! As an apprentice in metal shaping, i’ve come across a nice trick when using tin snips: as you release tension on the snips after a cut, push the snips forward along the cut line (you should feel some vibration). this completely prevents burs from occurring.
Hello Jared, thank you for sharing your trick with using tin snips!
@@KingdomMetalWorks That’s no problem, I hope it helps you!
This is amazing.
Thank you so much, this will help me immensely with making armor
Jaroslav, I am so glad this instruction will help you. Take care.
That english wheel is an absolute monster! Amazing.
Thank you Factory400, I am very blessed to be able to own this amazing Excel wheel.
Thank you for the extra effort in filming the different camera views.
My pleasure Kombi Garage.
I did enjoy that, thank you very informative.
Thank you Niall!
Kevin, That has to be this biggest, baddest, strongest, English wheel that I have ever seen. You could probably form 3/8” plate in that thing, Lol. Great video, Thank you!
Thank you Michael! Glad you like the Excel wheel and hopefully I was able to pass on a few of my techniques here on this video.
Здравствуйте Сэр! Вы большой мастер! С удовольствием посмотрел ваше видео! Спасибо!
Спасибо! Очень рада, что вы заинтересовались моей работой и стилем преподавания.
Good stuff, Kevin!
Thanks Mike!
Thanks sir I always folow your video .
Thank you for your encouraging comment Sir.
Usted estodo un artista necesitamos artesanos como usted en mexico saludos 🤠👍👍👍
Muchas gracias por tu amable comentario.
Спасибо вам! буду следовать вашему примеру. Увидимся еще!
Dobro pozhalovat'!
Amazing how talented some guys are at this. Only problem is it’s so expensive to buy the proper tools and equipment to do this work. Great video sir.
Hello PG, thank you so much for your comment, I really appreciate it. It is true about the expense of many proper tools and equipment needed to get the job done. I try to advice many of my students to start out with hand tools, hammers, dollies, slappers and well made leather shot bag(s). A good bench size English wheel and a lot of practice can get them pretty far in their skills. Take care Mate!
@@KingdomMetalWorks спасибо за видео! Без суеты, по делу и без навязчивой музыки. Познавательно! Приятно видеть, что у Вас в мастерской чистота и порядок! Видна культура работы! Сохраняйте свое ремесло и передавайте молодым. Успехов Вам коллега, в Вашем сложном, творческом деле!
@@user-gs7du7mm2e Еще раз спасибо за ваши обнадеживающие комментарии. Я представитель «старой школы», и моя страсть состоит в том, чтобы научить молодежь этому утерянному искусству с помощью ручных инструментов и английского колеса. Я стараюсь, чтобы это было просто и по делу, чтобы получить окончательные результаты. Заботиться!
@@KingdomMetalWorks я тоже из той, старой школы. Работаю с мелаллом, восстанавливаю ретро авто, занимаюсь тюнингом. Но ремесло уходит вместе с мастерами, молодежь не хотит учиться. Все они хотят много денег сразу. А наша работа для души, творчество.
Excelent video Kevin , well explained . Keep up the good work . I noticed that you have used the ''handbuilt'' English wheel at Oblong a while back , what did you think of it ?
Hi Peter, thank you so much, I really appreciate your comments. That was a very nice wheel, perfect size and I like the fact that it is cast. I really enjoyed using it.
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Thank you for this informative video Sir! Watching this you seemed familiar the when I saw the tree stump I remembered- did you give a demonstration at a Rotary Car meet near Lafayette, CA two years ago?
Hello! No, I have never been to Lafayette Ca....
Hi from the old UK, I have just come across your really excellent video. I would just like to thank you for sharing your expert knowledge and in such detail. I must say that I found it so really enlightening and useful particularly as I'm rebuilding an old 1956 Austin A30 so have now subscribed. I have a wheeling machine (self built but with professional wheels, the frame is properly over engineered but very stiff) but I do have some problems with wheeling, can I ask what width of tracking do you employ and is there a rule of thumb when it comes to setting wheel pressure.
Hello Multirole 240, Thank you for your comments, so glad that you enjoyed the video. The with of track to the flat top wheel is determined by the amount of shape in the panel ie: if it's a number 3 or number 4 radius wanting to be achieved. The width of track is determined by that. You need to keep the track blow marks as close together as possible traveling across the panel. As for pressure, light pressure at the beginning to set the panel and slowly increasing pressure to achieve the right shape, not too much too soon. Let me know if you have any other questions.
@@KingdomMetalWorks Many thanks for your advice I will try getting my tracking lines closer together with lighter pressure. Thanks again.
@@multirole240 You are welcome!
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Спасибо за ваш комментарий, я очень ценю это.
You are the best !!!!
Hello Antonio, I have 40 years of practice that I want to share. So glad that you are enjoying the video.
Nice work and very informative video, keep it up...
Thank you AUDI-FAN, I will do my best!
Bloody top channel Kevin, wish I had found you earlier. If you are making guards for a model car (that will fit you grandson) guess you would do everything the same except in proportion to size? Would you make/use a buck as you have with this full size guard? Where would you find lead buck for the bag?
Hello Gordon, the only reason I would make a buck is if I were making numerous amounts of guards. If I am making only a few, I make a paper pattern for a left and a right and use a radius gauge to achieve the correct shape with measurements and cardboard templates. I order my lead shot from Lawrence Brand #8 lead shot online and they ship it to my door. Thank you so much for your comment.~ Kevin
Very informative! I might have missed it but what gauge steel did you use?
Thank you Danny! For the demonstration, I was using 20 gauge however you can use 18 gauge with the same results.
Cool….. old school 👍👍😎👍👍
Thank you Joel!
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Спасибо!
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¡gracias compañero!
you be able to work with 16ga mild steel with the larger heavy duty English Wheel? I really enjoyed your video and learned a lot. Thank You.
Yes, I can do 16 ga mild steel in the Excel wheel, no problem. Thank you for your comment, so glad that my video is helpful to you! ~Kevin
Hello, congrats for the video, very instructive. I need to shape some 2 or 1.5 mm stainless steel for an sculpture. Would it be possible with the english wheel? Thanks for your help!
Hello Pablo, if your English Wheel has hardened wheels, then yes, you can wheel shallow shape in larger panels. 304/308 stainless steel has 20% chromium and 11% nickel so it hardens quickly when shaped. For full shaped smaller panels, I would use a power hammer or planishing hammer to shape. Thank you for your comment and question. Kevin
@@KingdomMetalWorks thanks a los for your answer! Very helpful 👌
it's amazing how much that wheel waggles on a thin piece of sheet metal , i guess even cast iron frames flex !!!!!
Hello Simon, yes cast iron wheels do have some flex!
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I know this is for auto body, and that's what i plan to use it for. I can't help but think, though "I could make a pretty decent suit of armor like this"
I agree Xander!
GREAT TUTORIAL KEVIN, CAN I ASK WHAT GAUGE METAL YOUR USING?
Hello Thomas, I am using 20 gauge. I am glad that you enjoyed my tutorial....there will be more tutorials to come this year.
Hello Could you please tell me what grade of steel do you use for body panels? I've seen a lot of different videos about how to use an English wheel, how to learn how to make body panels but almost no one says what metal to use for this. What grade of steel is more suitable for these purposes, where such metal is sold? As far as I know it can't be any metal from any hardware store, at least that's what I've been told. I would appreciate your clarifications and advice.
Hello Old School, 18 gauge cold rolled steel is idea for hoods, trunk lids and door skins, floor pans, trunk pans and inner structures. I like to use 19 gauge AKDQ for high crown panels or full shaped panels, inner wheel arches, fenders, front and rear, reverse curve panels, head lamp buckets, because this gauge metal shapes quicker and easier. I purchase my steel at my local metal supply store.
That is a gorgeous english wheel. How old is it? I tend to prefer the older tools because they were better built and usually elegant. I agree with doing by hand. There is a quiet satisfaction when shaping any material by hand. What we teach lives much longer than we do. Nice video. Good Luck, Rick
Hi Rick, thank you for your comment. The Excel English Wheels were made in the 1990's, I have one of 37 that were made. They are made of nodular steel instead of cast iron. I have used a lot of different wheel, and this Excel is my favorite. ~ Kevin
@@KingdomMetalWorksThanks for responding. I thought that it might have been much older. 40 years ago, I looked at a house for sale. Its barn had a sheet metal workshop. The tools were old but clean and recently used. It turned out that the old guy who owned the place had helped with the Statue of Liberty restoration. He claimed that these tools were also used on repairs of it in the 1920s. They were not included with the house. They were works of art and had the pin striping of old tools. Good Luck, Rick
@@richardross7219 What a great story Rick! Thanks for sharing as well. Kevin
In the beginning, you trimmed your workpiece to lines you had drawn on it. How did you determine where the lines were? Guestimation or a pattern?
Hello Androoski, this panel piece was from a pattern I used for the Teardrop Trailer Fender you see sitting up there on the wok bench. Thank you for your question!
Excellent sir
Thank you Udaya for your comment, I really appreciate it.
what kind of sheet do you work on . what the quilty ? please tell us. . and thanks for your great job
Hello! I work on 19 gauge, cold rolled, AKDQ steel. It's from the USA... top quality steel.
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Thank you!
You are a master in your art, my congratulations. Although I'm a little intrigued that you don't use gloves for a job that's less painful for your hands. However, your hands do not look fatigued. Which makes me assume that much of your approach to surface finishing is based on perception through touch. Am I right?
Hello Jorge, you are correct, I de-burr all of the edges of my metal so that I can work through the dexterity on my hands.
@@KingdomMetalWorks Hello, I was wondering because I am a goldsmith, you work with steel, and I work with silver, and precisely I don't use gloves either, except when I have to hammer forge pieces of a certain thickness, greater than 2mm, since the The vibration that it generates causes me some pain in my fingertips, and precisely when possible I do not use gloves to maintain sensitivity to touch. Especially when I have to file, I do not rely on vision, but on the perception through touch of the action of the file. I send you a hug from Argentina, I will be watching your videos, I like to see and learn from you and from all the people who know how to do their job well. Greetings!
@@jorgelupin3242 Hello again Jorge, thank you for sharing your expertise as a goldsmith. I admire your trade skills and understand why you prefer to use touch as well. I plan on making many more videos to pass down to the next generation some of the skills I have had the opportunity to learn.
Crazy how much pressure that wheel has. you can see that big C frame bending haha.
Yes!
Интересно наблюдать за работой мастера. Вы создаете экслюзивные изделия. Толшина 1 мм?
Спасибо за ваш комментарий, металл представляет собой холоднокатаную сталь толщиной 1 мм или 19. Я также делаю панели из стали 18 и 20 калибра и иногда из алюминия толщиной 0,063.
спасибо .молодец.
Спасибо, сэр!
How much did your large gray English wheel cost?
Do you prefer lower anvils with flats or full radiused anvils?
If I had my preference, I prefer flat top wheels only because more panels can be made with them. High crown wheels though do have a great purpose for high crown radius shaping or using the rubber band on the top wheel for linear forming.
@@KingdomMetalWorks thank you
@@sblack48 You are welcome Rv4 Guy
wow worked @ AC in the UK thats who built the cobra coachwork
Happy New Year Noah, yes, that is correct!
Where do you do your classes?
Hello Farabi, I hold my private one on one classes here at my shop in western Ky. I also travel around the country to prestigious restoration / fabrication shops all over the USA. I train the crew on the projects in their shop, using the shops machines and move their projects forward at the same time.
@@KingdomMetalWorks oh I thought you were in CA. Love your videos. Thank you for responding.
Can you plz tell me list of metal forming equipment for car body making, Thank you
Hello, I use an English wheel, a planishing hammer, shrinker/stretcher, a leather shot bag filled with lead shot #8, a power hammer and various hammers, dollies, and slappers.
When I roll a panel , it keeps walking off the wheel to one side . What would cause that or is it just technique that needs improving?
Hello Greg, it's really all in the technique, whether you are wheeling a straight panel or a curved panel, the technique is all in the "steering" of the panel and not wheeling too close to the edge. I suggest that you keep your blow marks close together and not run too close to the edge. One hand steers and the other hand supports the panel, using the index finger on the steering hand really helps.
@@KingdomMetalWorks Thank you for the explanation. I started with a flat piece of 18gauge and it seemed that even if I tried to keep it going straight, it wanted to walk off the panel. I thought maybe something was misaligned ... I'll just keep practicing on technique. Let's say I'm wheeling a panel from left to right .... Do you steer left on the pushing stroke and right on the pulling ?
@@gregl1824 Hi Greg, I personally go straight on the pushing stroke, and then pivot the panel slightly to do the diagonal stroke and then on the pulling stoke steer the panel with your right hand (if your right handed). Then you push straight and repeat the process across the panel, keeping your tracking marks close together.
@@KingdomMetalWorks thanks so much for the information. Your videos are very helpful.
@@gregl1824 I really hope this helps! Thank you Greg for your comments.
Es muy interesante
muchas gracias!
Are you originally from Australia?
No Sir, I am originally from south London.
So, are you calling it a lead shot bag, or a lead shop bag?
Hey Horace, it's a lead shot bag. I purchase #8 shot from Lawrence Lead Shot Supply.
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Thank you!
Nice
Thank you.
Has anyone seen the metal shaping buck patterns, for cats like the 627 Cobra and Ferrari GTO, for sale on websites like Etsey?
I have not, perhaps someone else will be able to answer your question.
OK !
UK based would like to come and learn
Come for a class!
How much did your English wheel cost?
It cost me an arm and a leg....😉
seriously....I got it under market value as it was sold to me by a gentleman who was looking to have it go to a shop that would be teaching the art of the English wheel.
I enjoyed the video. One day........ one day......
Thank you Brian!
Hello nice video neighbor
Hey neighbor! Glad you checked it here on my channel.
Hey Paul I will reply again...maybe the first one didn't take! Glad you checked here on my channel!
Fala muito e realiza pouco.......!!!!!!!
Se você é um mestre modelador de metal, concordo com seu comentário .... muita conversa e pouco progresso. Meu vídeo de ensino seria chato e redundante para alguém com seu nível de habilidade. No entanto, para um iniciante que deseja uma aula de 101 iniciantes, eles podem discordar de você, senhor.
your compressor comes from my home town mate
I it didn't show him bending the metal after it cured to show you how easy it snaps off without bending the metal and showing us if it's stuck or not this commercial means nothing
Hi Dale, thank you for your comment. Maybe I will make a video with your suggestion. This is my most viewed video so far, so it must mean something to a whole lot of people! Take care Mate.
Shop bag? "Shop"? What happened to good old fashioned lead SHOT?
Hello Bill! I will have to go back and review what I said in this video...I only use #8 LEAD SHOT for my "shot bags". Sorry for the confusion!
@@KingdomMetalWorks It was on a text caption correcting your use of the word sand bag @ 6:41
@@billshiff2060 Ahhh, yes! You are correct, I did say sand bag!
@@KingdomMetalWorks Yes but then you wrote SHOP bag in the text overlay to correct that.
@@billshiff2060 Again, you are correct. The guy who edited his video wrote the wrong text caption....there is no way for us to correct it unfortunately.
Ron Covell is king for of metal shaping. He said "Now I will make something simple" and he made same a fender pretty quickly. Ron is master, rest of you are youtubers. Ron knows how metal is "breathing"
Hello Marc, I agree, Ron is the best in metal shaping. I can only assume by the amount of "views" I received on this one video, that it helped some folks out there, wouldn't you agree? If Ron works best for you and others, stay with the man is what I say. Have a great day Mr. King, all the best to you Mate!~ Kevin
What would a day be without a keyboard warrior pissing in your cornflakes?? I wonder how long buddy worked at AC….. Sigh I have some small experience in this endeavour and I am so grateful to you for sharing.
Do you wear ear protection?.....WHAT?
Hello Andy! Could you repeat that, I couldn’t hear you….!!😉
I can tell you are seasoned in this because you dont wear gloves. Who needs them anyways when you know what your doing.
Yes, Stop Motion Man, I prefer not to wear them and give my students the freedom to choose if they want to wear gloves or not when in training in my classes. I need to "feel" the metal with my bare hands.
Uses a stomp shear to trim down then claims that a Beverly shear isn't old school enough... OK 👍
Hello @JMC9837, I'm glad you were able to get this off your chest....😄. I do metal working my way and explain it my way. Comments are always welcome.
@@KingdomMetalWorks glad to see that you didn’t take it the wrong way I completely understand the comfort in your tools and way of doing things. A reply back was nice I wasn’t really getting anything off my chest, was starting a dialogue to help your channel. Just FYI the Beverly shear was invented in 1931 by Kurt Nebel, the foot shear also known as the guillotine shear was known to n Be used as far back as the French Revolution. Fun facts to know and tell.
@@JMC9837 Thank you for your comment JMC, those are fun facts and I always enjoy good dialogue here on my channel....Cheers to you!
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Now Russell, what does your comment have to do with my 101 Intro metal shaping class? Please explain Mate!