Boombox / Clarion Thermal at MOGO24: Zee Goggles! Zey Do Nuthink!
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For my Passive Division run during the staff match portion of Moons Out Goons Out 2024, I used a borrowed prototype Boombox from Q, with an AGM Clarion thermal scope. The Boombox is essentially a Honey Badger scaled up to AR10 size, chambered for 8.6mm Blackout. With a 12" barrel and Porq Chop suppressor, it was crazy quiet, and the 300gr subsonic FMJ from Gorilla Ammo that I was shooting made a great CLANG on the targets. The Clarion is a large thermal from AGM, with the option for either 2x or 3x optical zoom. I went for 2x, and was unfortunately surprised by how difficult some of the targets were to find. Last year I did not have the same issues with a similar thermal scope from AGM, and so I didn't expect them this year. Well, live and learn...
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If one cannot discern the "popper", the gentleman employs the grenade.
indeed
More of a moab person but that works too 😂
"A boombox can change the world You gotta know your limits with a boombox This was a cautionary tale A boombox is not a toy" -Thelonelyisland ; Boombox (ft. Julian Casablancas) ; on SNL
closes the curtains to get fully immersed
Thrown on your nods so everything is a little out of focus and monocolor for even better immersion.
A thermal scope on a rifle is certainly an occasion where the PVS-14 Gang's "its just as good" cope actually has some merit. (Its me. I'm PVS-14 Gang.)
The best would be a combination of thermal and image-intensified NV. I believe I have seen some videos about such devices but I don't know if they have been fielded yet.
@@sbreheny fusion thermal has been around for a few years now
A cold war division with a RO launching illumination flares should be a thing 😁
We tried flares last year; they were unfortunately a significant fire hazard.
If we get an arctic brutality some day, then fire hazard isnt a thing
this match HAD to be expensive.
@@ForgottenWeapons That's what happens when you play with matches ;)
@@ravener96 Finnish brutality...
19:58 *casually tosses a land mine on the ground*
to be fair, an anti-tank mine will only go off if an extremely heavy heavy vehicle, ie a tank, drives over it. No army wants to waste an entire anti tank mine on a person, that's why they have anti personnel mines.
@@madeconomist458Usually real AT mines don't have fuses installed untill they are placed on the ground.
I was in the squad just behind your squad, and we could hear the targets ringing like a literal bell. I can only assume that was those 300 gr rounds you were shooting.
Yup, I expect so.
Thanks for the another great video,I also appreciate the Rainier Wolfcastle quote.
In thermal cameras meant for making accurate temperature measurements, the brief pauses are when a shutter closes and the camera re-calibrates itself. The shutter has a temperature sensor on it and is made of thermally conductive material so it is at a very uniform temperature. Without this calibration, the absolute accuracy of the camera would depend on the temperature of the camera electronics AND the uniformity of the pixels would get poorer. However, when you are only using the camera to detect and target objects with a heat signature, I would think that this calibration could be made much less frequent or maybe even completely eliminated. I wonder if this thermal scope is using an off-the-shelf thermal camera module which is not optimized for non-measurement applications.
This is not the context I'm used to seeing the words "goon" and "poppers" in. It's still usually boys playing with their toys, though.
Happy boys, fun toys!
'Reloading' may take some time: we're not as young these days...
That looked absolutely brutal.
Anyone else think the color balanced "purple" haired Ian is a vibe? It's kinda cool!
3:33 Hey, don't say that about Hop. It's not nice to call someone a drag dummy, even if it is true.
Yea, those targets should be heated! In reality the targets would be also. 😅 That's the point of using thermal. If you on the other hand wanted to simulate a fight against the predator, the targets should have been also covert with a camo net for the infrared guys! 😂
This raises the question of whether zombies are warm-blooded, or if they even have blood.
@@AshleyPomeroyThey should have blood, but probably wouldn't be warm. At least if we go by reanimated corpses. Fungus-controlled humans would still be warm.
@@AshleyPomeroy Zombies heat up when they move, so no problem there!
What are the rules about using Tracer ammo? If allowed, I feel like that would help you walk your rounds in on a target you are struggling to hit
Not allowed because of fire restrictions in the area. I don't think they would really help anyway.
@@ForgottenWeaponsmaybe not with thermal, but could they just barely cast a little bit of light downrange? I know that's a stress and maybe ridiculous, but possibly worth a little experiment on the darkest on nights 🤔🧐
GOOOOOD MORNING RECRUITS
Mornin' ☕️
Sweet!
Great video quality for night!
Thanks
Tucson AZ baby
.358 Win, with "the right bullet" should work in a similar "niche" as the 8.6 variant. To cater for the "sub-sonic" loadings, a faster twist than "SAAMI" might be required. Or, for the nostalgia buffs; .35 Whelan.
I find the challenge of night shooting interesting and the results humbling.
Very nice video. Technical with how the equipment went while still being realistic with how your shooting ability was. The cross hair feed is really cool. Are go pro attachments allowed on daytime shooting matches? It'd be cool to see these during the day with more detail.
Every comp shooter records their shit from PoV Look up 2 & 3gun matches with PoV cam’s you can find an endless supply if you want to see the POV of pro shooters
I hope Ian got his cheque for his likeness used in that logo
This course should be part of every US High School curriculum.
Good stuff. I'd love a suppressed 8.6. Way cooler than .300 blackout. Like a western VSS Vintorez
Another great vid for us normal people. What do you think caused the issue with the thermal not acting like the previous years thermal? How do you fall on the thermal vs NVG for folks that cant afford both and actual real life use?
Ian, do you think that No Moon Out would make the NVG more effective? "Moons Gone, Goon Strong 25"?
I’ve had good luck just changing color pallets on non heated targets. Especially if the target is the same color as the pallet (ie black or white)
Hahaha the title of this vid was great.
Can you do a manual NUC before a range? On the LPWS we would manually do it or get a notification to perform one
Ya those clarions have a manual nuc setting.
TREX is a brand of cooking fat. Never knew it was so old.
I would be very interested in how the thermal would have done with a real life style target that gave off heat. But even without heat being able to see some of them was impressive.
I want whatever that camera guy was using, thought it was daylight, and wondered what all the fumbling around was for! I would not want to go up against nightvision if I didn't have any for sure!
"Real acid?" Sorry, had to make a reference to the title.
No deductions for picking up the same mine you had dropped previously?
boom bang
A Simpsons reference, in my Forgotten Weapons video title?!? It’s more likely than you think!
I'm amused by the Obsun (or however you spell it) giving Ian purple hair.
That title though
It wouldn't be a gun Jesus competition if Ian didn't deliberately handicap himself in some shape or form. He seems to make a habit of doing that, wether it's choosing to use a bad firearm choice, or a bad sight choice.
That gear choice might also be why it seems to me that Ian has such trouble with mag changes.
I shot the match with an AK and had one really good reload, the rest were pretty bad. I did do a bit of practice reloading under nods before the match but when you add in the stress of a timer, its really difficult to reload when you can hardly see the rifle. I think Ian, similar to me, also lost a lot of time on stowing the magazine. I didn't run my belt because no pistols, so I didn't have a dump pouch. I ended up mostly stuffing mags in between my plate carrier and my chest to retain then. Trying to shove mags back into a pouch under these conditions was also tough
@@alexanderluster402 That matches my observation of Ian but it isn't only on this particular match. It seems to be an issue across the board with him.
Does anyone make an NV/thermal fusion sight?
Up and atom!
Up and at them! ☢️🤣
27:55 You look like Elton John with a purple scarf in a cow outfit from top secret.
Thermal Gang
Drive by with a thermal?
G Unit slinging those rocks, er, shillin' dem guns.
The video title is somewhat cryptic
24:57 something running to the right from behind the target?
It was clean miss just over the right edge of the plate, and that was a ordinary dust cloud made by bullet hitting the dirt.
kinda weird to name a stage after a current and ongoing conflict. seems like a fun event otherwise
did u zero with all ur gear on?
Wouldn't matter. Since its a digital scope, parallax from the screen to your eye doesn't exist because the reticle is on the screen.
I thought the title of the video was gibberish until I sounded it out and got the Simpsons reference.
Early birds
Whats peoples opinion on masks over hair like Ian does or under hair?
early crew
Freaking early gang
Early
Q is overpriced hype.
You should probably not purchase one.
@@BlackCat-tc2tvNo shit.
Another Q L
had to give thumbs down for rubbish night cam stuff not worth seeing unlike all of your good weapons show an tells
Try tracer rounds next time so you and the guy trying to help can see where those are going. Is that against the rules?