Union Berlin fans latest to protest agains DFB and Dietmar Hopp
2020 ж. 29 Ақп.
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Protests against the German Football Association and Dietmar Hopp continue in the Bundesliga, with Union Berlin fans forcing their game against Wolfsburg to be temporarily stopped before half-time.
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For everyone asking.... The fans aren't protesting against Dietmar Hopp, they're peotesting against what he stands for. The fans want the 50+1 rule to stay (with good reason) They don't want the Bundesliga to become the next Premier League
I implore all the German football fans to continue with their protests. Don't let traditions that protect supporters fade out so easily. I applaud their efforts. The players are seemingly suffering as innocent parties, but it is a necessary concession. I respect these protests a lot. It shows that the German football fans care about their rights and the rights of other supporters of rival teams. Admirable.
Yes but there are better ways of protesting, rather than calling him a son of a wh*re, violating the DFB etc.. the banners are very inappropriate and shouldn't be condemned which is why they arent being condemned. There are better ways to protest than this
@@charlieracine5443 i mean clearly this is the best way to get noticed and to actually have an impact. a lot of teams have been doing it and its clearly successful becasue the media is reporting it. the german fa needs to be consistent in their decision making. of what ive read they are not and this is completely acceptable in my eyes. Hopp is breaking the german football traditions alongside a few others. and the measures taken against the supporters that are protesting them are harsher than anything else. like everyone mentioned in the comments but against racism games never get stopped. i guess another way of protesting would be to not show up at all but not sure that would be effective.
Word! Greets from BRD
What's the protest about?
Matt - The fans are just shallow, petulant babies who haven't worked a day in their miserable and pointless lives.
At this point Hoffenheim are as hated as RB Leipzig.
No they’re not, the owner is not the club
they where always this hated
And Wolfsburg ,Bayer Leverkusen
It's not about Hoffenheim, it's about their owner who pumped millions into the team when they were in the 4th league
@@freddydebruyn1027 Wolfsburg and Bayer are different in this case.
Don't let your game go down the English path we can't even stand or have a beer can't fart in an English stadium Mike Ashley out
KRO!!!
Thank god I'm a CELTIC supporter.............
zee Devil can’t fart in an English stadium 🤣🤣
fair play to all the German football supporters protesting keep it up 👏
Im from Germany
I’m with the fans
It's hilarious these old men don't like having their ego tested but when a player gets racially abused everyone just expects him to continue
When someone is racially abused, he should continue too
My God the reaction to this and yesterday's scene is unbelievable. Racism doesn't get anywhere near the same shocked reaction. Bin Hopp/ Bin Racism. We are one.
There wasn't this shock reaction when there have been very insultive chants of thousands of people in stadiums against Timo Werner and Mario Gomez over the course of many months at Bundesliga matches. The 'son of wh*re' chants over many months.
ESPN FC hasn't even uploaded a video where they talk about this incident yet. If it would have been racism all the international news stations would be talking about it after a few minutes of the incident.
Also I do think that a threat on someone's life by hundreds of people is a much bigger deal than monkey noises made by a one to 5 members of the audience.
YouGo There what incident was that mate?
How soft is this man, absolutely pathetic from the ref, people have a right to protest
Ooo sweary words good lord. They'd love the songbook at ibrox......
The ref has rules he has to follow. In the Bundesliga, there's a new rule that if something like this happens the game has to stop. It's dumb rule, but a rule is a rule
A rule to protest not to insult.
A A so have America russia Korea China and about 3 dozen other countries
yeah. but to call one a son of a b**** is the right way to protest?
As an American who’s tired of the billionaires as well, I’m with the German supporters all the way ✊✊
Bernie Sanders!
Bernie Sanders!
Billionaires, at this point, might hate us as much as we do them
Get a job bich
Why? Because he made his billions in an honest way, bought the club by the books and invests millions in his region through charity? All these football supporters are victims and he's the boogeyman right?
He owns more than the 51% of the club he owns,
Erm what?
@@youman5079 Put it simply, the club can't be owned more than 50% by the owner, it has to be other people too.
Shahed Ali Oh ok thanks, who is the the owner of? Is it hoffenheim?
@@youman5079 Dietmar Hopp he's a billonaire. so like German fans would hate what City & PSG do because they have an entire nation backing them up.
The rule thats killing your league and making one or two terms powerhouses and nobody else can catch up.
The millionaire players want to support their benefactors. Maybe they should support those who support them.
This should also happen in Premier league...
Isn’t every club in the PL owned by a person or a company?
Yes for Kroenke, Woodward and Mike Ashley
Premier League is lost but also FIFA. We need a Alternative where these people don’t exist and support the amateur
Odyssey Studios why Woodward? He doesn’t own Man Utd
we're wayyyyy past the point of no return lol
BT SPORT, PLEASE PUT THE CONTEXT WITHIN THE VIDEO. HOPP IS THE VILLAIN HERE NOT THE FANS. Games should be stopped for incidents of racism and prejudice not a billionaire who thinks he's the exception to the rule. Right response for the wrong cause. It's embarrassing frankly.
Nope, the Fans are the Villains. Hopp is a normal Fan, who supports his Hometown-Club. And in Germany Football Clubs dont have a Chance of to success if they dont have Millions or Billions Euros. And as a Fan who wants that his Club has success he spent some of his Money to the Club. But some Fans dont understand this and starting to insult Hopp. And this is illegal.
This just draws more attention to it. Not that I think it’s a bad thing.
Dietmar Hopp and the DFB tries to break the relation between the teams and their supporters. Players and managers are forced trying to stop the absolutelly normal protests of their own supporters. So damn stupid. I'd like to know how many millions Hopp paid the DFB to enforce this rule of match cancelling.
I like how the fans are actually the boss in Germany
Without the fans football would be nothin
We wish it would be like that
Why couldn't they continue?? The fans aren't on the pitch 🙈
The Banner contains Hatespeech
Red seats everywhere are your lot hiding on the pitch?
It had a hit marker on their owner ( him in the cross hairs I think )
@@koenignero Hatespeech isn't real.
@@swal0943 its true tho
This can’t be ignored, the more games are stopped the more publicity it gets! Scotland supports German supporters 🏴🤝🇩🇪
RESPECT to the fans 🙏🏻
I wish people protested this passionately to things that actually mattered
DFB clamping down on fans does actually matter...
Roan Spillane Oh vey. Gotta stop racism AMA right? Oh vey all races are equal *Intense hand rubbing*
What matters is that people in power dont listen to the Base anymore. And now everybody wonders that people speake up in an extreme way...
THIS matters, they protest against Dietmar Hopp bc he owns a club which he shouldn't according to the Rules. But he's a bilionäre so there's that..
@Holy Potatoe When racism happens in football,. especially in Western Europe it is generally 1-2 people which is an isolated incident and a matter for the police not the Football Association. If fans were unfurling banners with racial slurs on them then that is a matter for the Football Association to get involved. There is a pretty big difference.
EISERN UNION❗️❗️
It's embarrassing that they're stopping a game because of a banner.
innit, it doesn't matter what it says just play on and deal with it after the game
Hate is intolerable
Ryan Rostron sticks and stones
It's the right thing
yes they should stop the game. that is how the issue gets its deserved attention
For those that are not aware Bundesliga has de 50+1 rule which means that the members of the club have to own more than 50% of the club and the hoffenheim owner owns 96%of the club that's it
Same situation with RB Leipzig, as far as I'm aware.
@@ellwill5709 and Wolfsburg and Leverkusen, only difference there they started way earlier and they done it less aggressive and over a longer period
It’s crazy that they are taking all these serious steps over a sign about a business man but then everyone is like “why would we do this when racists start yelling at players?”
They are well in the right to protest. Try to silence them will only make it worse.
This is what PSG need to do so they don't bottle a lead 😂🤣
Underrated comment 😂😂😂
Right rangers fans hear me out, if we score against Leverkusen. Get the banners out. Easy win😂
Yannick Bayern and Union didn’t lose 3-0 ya mong
The only way u clowns would win
@@quartzking3997 Because there are 3 steps. First, a warning. Then, a 15 min break. And the third step is forfeit.
No money to pay tax but money for banners 🤦🏻♂️
@Yannick The *Rangers Fans are not used to the rules being applied to them.
I had a feeling this would happen in MY AC MILAN They had more drama on the back of the desk than on the pitch.
Wen rassistische Äußerungen kommen läuft das Spiel weiter und wenn einer mit Geld beleidigt wird ,dann wird das ganze Spiel unterbrochen...traurig
Nein. Wenn in der Bundesliga rassistische Äußerungen in dieser Größe stattfinden würden, wäre die Reaktion die gleiche. Nur ist es in der Bundesliga aber nicht der Fall wie z. B. In Italien
@Reggin Reggin Um was geht es denn? Darum dass das Spiel bei Hopp Beleidung unterbrochen wird aber bei anderen Anfeindungen nicht?! Dieser 3 Stufenplan funktioniert so nicht!
@@jakob7084 nenn mir doch bitte mal ein paar Fälle wo rassistische Proteste in der Größenordnung in der Bundesliga stattgefunden haben... Ich kann mich an etwas dergleiches nämlich nicht erinnern. Serie a ist etwas anderes.
@@The_Duude99 Mal die letzten 3 Wochen deutschen Fußball geschaut? Bevor du sowas schreibst ,denk soch bitte nach
@@jakob7084 aha, anstatt normal auf die Frage zu antworten wirfst du mir vor erstmal nachzudenken? Also bei aller Anstrengung schaffe ich es leider nicht mich an einen Vorfall zu erinnern wo ein kompletter Block gegen jmd protestiert aufgrund seiner Hautfarbe. Ich rede nicht davon, wenn 1 Person etwas ruft... Also bitte erleuchte mich wann soetwas in der Bundesliga passiert ist
Can someone explain whats happening in these games?
They spelt against wrong😂
What does the banner say
nothing wrong with this protest.. the powerful elite shouldnt be allowed to just buy there way into the game and then use the same power to stop protests.
How does bayern get to spend so much on their players
@@rsabesan5716 Spending money and owning is two diffrent things.
Dergom Dergomsson your right about that but here is a point people choose to ignore in their bogus self righteous crusade, Bayern is about 75% fan owned and the rest is private investor(s) yet Bayern is one of few clubs who generate millions upon millions yet all that money goes into the investors pockets while the fan owned majority receive peanuts
I think these protests should be allowed, but the way they protest was really insulting and childish
What does the banner say ?
Im definetely for the 50+1 ownership rule, or as we have in Sweden 51% rule, which means the fans owns the majority. Hopp is clearly a threat against this reasoning of ownership. He should definitely feel the reaction of the fans. The fans, those who always standby their club. Owners come and go. I rather have passion and no profits when it comes to football.
bedde bedde Passion is not enough.Passion doesnt pay the plauers who work hard.Those 'greedy' owners invest money which make european clubs popular in my country
Racism in football: Nothing happens Fans protest against a billionaire who breaks the rules while the DFB just looks on: Match is stopped and fans are condemned
What does the sign say?
Bundesliga fans showing the way again. Every fan needs to play their part in sweeping these disgusting billionaires out of our working class sport
I love how the commentators and pundits act like they're so shocked and disgusted, protecting the revenue streams of the tv companies. Money talks...but to often it talks bullshit, I support the fans.
What's the reason for this banner protest ?
can someone tell me what this means??
Yesmen urging people to stop protesting and expressing freedom of expression in Germany by order of the status quo. Where have we seen that?
Oh shut up ye he owns more then 51% OMG hitler 2.0
@@mightyjinx1260 lookup what hyperbole is
@@user-ei7ed6zy9k doesn't make your comment any less dumb
When I was this early, it was the ebening
James Ladley ??
not even funny, died ages ago man, stfu
I said die
Thats getting old mate 👍
What does the banner actually say?
Yes, they did take down the banners. Bit nonetheless the referee told the players to leave the field and to stay off the field for like 8 minutes... The referee also activated 3-steps-protocol, with enacting the first step, over the Union Berlin fans having put up banners with actually completly fine, civilized, peaceful criticism/protest...
Can someone explain what’s going on? What’s the banner about? And who is it aimed at?
Banner reads "Whoreson" Amied against Dietmar Hopp. German Billionaire who took over Tsg Hoffenheim and got them to the first League just because of his money.
Yeah but Man City won the league because of the money so what?
@@Isaac-ik3lv Premier League is the best example of how money and commercialization ruin football. We dont want that here in germany
Respect from Indonesia. Don't stop to fight to our right !!
Why exactly are they doing this? Can someone explain.
What happened??
What happened exactly
Can someone explain what the banners actually mean
"Son of a b- itch" against Dietmar Hopp
It’s a joke that’s what! Racism is basically treated as joke but a banner like that is treated straight away with the ref taking players off....I get it but have the same stance on racism!!!
@@martinp5184 don't get how that'd work.
Martin P Lol there is no racism stfu
A picture of Dietmar Hopp's face with a sniper target cross on his face.
What is it he’s done or doing?
So what's this about?
Beautiful and about time. Football is and always has been a working class game. A game for the fans, not a play toy for business men.
Well done the German supporters 👍🏻
Wait what happened ?
Someone educate me the meaning behind these banners and why the players are protesting? It happened at Bayern too
RazBaybee basically protesting against the ignorant owners, some of these banners say “football is for the fans not the billionaires” pretty much they are protesting against modern football which is just money money money and no real feeling towards the fanbase but more of buisness/investment oppurtunity
and for some reason they are calling the mother of Dietmar Hopp a prostitute.
i understand they are protesting the exemption from the 50+1 rule, but I dunno why they're targetting Hopp. Not that I've heard too much about him but he sounds a lot like Dave Whelan at Wigan, makes a tonne of money and puts it back into his local team. I'd do the same if i were him.
@@Stegibbon the problem is that, if Hopp didn't invest millions into Hoffenheim, they'd still be playing in the 4th or 5th league. Hopp disregarded the 50+1 rule.
Wait did Bayern fans protest as well? Ahahahah the club who has Saudi money?
What are they protesting about please tell me
Okay I missed the bus. Someone explain what's going in German Football right now ?
What are these protests about?
Can someone please explain what the protests are for. I've seen alot of of this going on in Germany but there's never any contexts as to what's going on. We just see games being stopped for a banner. What's the banner stand for? What's this Hopp guy done to get all this hate?
Hopp is a billionaire who pumped Hoffenheim with money and got them into the Bundesliga as the owner. This is against the 50+1 rule which says that one person or a company cant have over 50% of the clubs shares. Leverkusen and Wolfsburg arent affected since the clubs were created for the employers of Bayer(Leverkusen) and Volkswagen(Wolfsburg). Bayern Munich for example is 75% owned by the fans and each 8,33% by Adidas, Audi and Allianz.
A player gets racially abused; the player gets a red card A businessman gets abused by banners for something that is wrong; game is brought to a halt
So what's the situation in Germany why does this keep happening?
Can someone explain to me what’s going on here
Can someone explain to me what the hell is happen in this game?
What did the banner say? In English please? So cuz the chairman owns more then he should they protesting? And the ref takes them off because of that.
what they protesting about..?
Why are they actually protesting, can someone explain
What exaxtly happened? Is this some sort of protest or...?
So... What happened here?
In den Farben getrennt in der Sache vereint!!!
Immer weiter! SCHEIß DFB!!!
Just don’t let any banners in the stadium problem solved
What are the protests against dietmar hopp for?
In the Bundesliga most of the clubs are run by the fans, however Hopp is the owner of SAP, a billionaire and completely owns Hoffenheim, sponsor everything.
He has complete ownership of hoffenhiem which is against the rule in Germany that fans should own 50% + 1 share of the club
Most clubs in Germany are owned by the fans, there are like a couple of clubs owned by individuals, hopp is one of those, supporters fear more clubs will be bought out thus leaving fans out of the loop, they fear price rise and decisions being made for profit rather than the well being of the club and its fans.
Happened in the premier League so keep protesting
@@dsintel6652 - Guess that's maybe why the Union fans have decided on copying thjs protest at a games vs Wolfsburg then given they are owned by Volkswagen. (iirc the other exception to the fan owned rule in Bundesliga is Bayer Leverkeusen)
Can someone explain what they’re protesting or exactly what it is they’re doing please?
others mentioned it. They are protesting someone buying a team, ie 51%+ of shares. In germany the fans are quite vocal and active and these fans are protesting the take over of another club by a rich person. They want the game/teams to remain in the hands of the fans.
Can someone give me some context, please?
First of all the fans are stupid, they are protesting because the hoffenheim's owner owns 51% of the club instead of 49 even tho it doesn't change anything in reality
So what has this guy done to make everyone hate him and why does the game stop because of banners or chants? Seen a few videos this week but none of them explain what fans are protesting.
I understand the frustration of the fans, but why are the players acting like this? Why are they stopping playing to make a point out of this?
Can I have more context please not too sure about what the protest are about
He owns more than 51 percent of a football club in other words setting up German football to go down the English route where fans are just customers
Why did he stop game Seen it with Bayern
Hatespeech on the Banner
DramaLama ok cheers
I don't understand?? It's not like they're invading the pitch? Nothing wrong with a harmless banner??
"agains"?
These people need to look at what happened to Ed woodwood and see that he still turned up to the next game
What's this all bout?
This is actually pathetic how people can ruin the experience for everyone else for no reason other than spite and racism
Racism? Youre a tool
I can't really understand even by the comments. What is going on with this video...?
I dont understand what this stuffs all about
There's the 50+1 rule in the Bundesliga, which means the members/fans of the club must own the majority of the club's decision making power/stakes etc. So, this billionaire is breaking the rule. He has bumped millions and millions to his club Hoffenheim, which lead to the rapid promotion from the amateur tiers to all the way up to the Champions League. That wasn't made by the traditional way so people are losing their minds lol. The football should be about the beautiful game and people aren't happy to see these companies/billionaires showing up and using the product to sell or promote something/his own brand.
Can someone please explain Why's everyone protesting against this person?
I'm giving a very poor explanation here: As far as I'm aware, in Germany, teams have a 50+1 rule that states that a club cannot have a majority investor. So basically some guy who's rich af owns more than half of the club. This allows him to dictate ticket prices etc. and gives the club an advantage as he can give them all the spending money they need to buy a strong team. It basically takes the competitiveness out of the game as we've seen in France where PSG spend way more than everyone else and proceed to dominate. That's my understanding of the situation, but I'm sure someone else will give a better explanation
What did Hopp do? I don't know cause I'm not German.
Er ist ein Investor von TSG Hoffenheim. Ihm gehört zu 51 Prozent der Verein.
He owns more than 51% of Hoffenheim which is agaist the 50+1 rule
Why are they protesting?
Fair play to such a small club like Union Berlin to be protesting like this even after going a goal up
*against
Why are they protesting
If the fans want to interrupt the game, lock them out for one. Empty stands for a game. Punishment must hurt.
Its funny to hear the media spin this
Keep up the protest
Can someone explain why people are protesting against Hopp? What has he done to spark a wave of protests from other clubs?
he owns the Majority of Hoffenheim which is usually not possible because in German football one person alone can't own the majority a of a club, but he got the green light. the only clubs that are exempt from this are Leverkusen and Wolfsburg because they wouldn't even exist in the first place without Bayer or Volkswagen. Hoffenheim owner is just a billionaire born in Hoffenheim.
Keep it up. This sport is nothing without the fans.
These refs are insufferable showmen, don’t acknowledge these sheets of paper and play on