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This had me cringing pretty bad. That Mass overflow really hurt my soul :( I'll leave a few things down here too help ya improve. Much more to this game and can only really tell ya what has worked for me but better than nothing. Used to be a 2200 ranked player back in the day but have been gone for awhile. Mass Overflow and positive mass means you don't have the build power for the mass your bringing in and should start producing more build power to use it. Whether thats tanks or more Eco and teching up that mass bar should never be full period. Heck if you can't use it give it to a Team mate who can cause nobody can ever have enough mass. You generally want to balance it so the bar never depletes but also doesn't overflow to get 100% build efficiency. If you start to go power negative tank your mass bar because you can get a boost in power that way. The only time its okay to overflow is with a Paragon because its virtually limitless and for some maps like true Setons (Not that Fake Subcom 2 bullshit reproduction) where the front player is to feed mass to the other teammates. Hydros should have been claimed ASAP if available like they were. 100 power is enough to power 5 T1 land factories and having 2 means 10 factories easily. Have 1 factory on attack move with Engineers towards reclaim piles and towards the front where the fighting is to grab loads of reclaim. Other 4 just tanks. That wasn't a Com rush in the beginning. Thats what your supposed to do depending on your slot. You use the ACU because its worth about 20 or so T1 tanks and it will reclaim in the beginning. You bring it back latter so you don't get stupidly sniped by a tac missile bank. You only build Mass Storage around the Mexes. Power storage you only really need a few if at all. Just build banks of T3 power if you really need power but make sure they are spaced enough to not be a bomb. Generally people put a T3 shield and mix T3 Power with T3 Fabs for more ECO. Its a bomb so don't stick your Com near it. When you built the support commanders you use the pictures to the left depending on the type of Com you want. Should have clicked the RAS Com Icon to get more ECO. Clicking the Com picture is stupid in FAF considering the presets are basically what you want. Your income suffered because of no RAS coms. You need to mix T2 and T3 shields. T3 has the HP however has far lower regen than T2. Assisting shields will spend ECO to restore them faster and works as long as they don't deplete. Lack of Nuke defense was very disturbing. You generally want 3-4 with 2 or so redundant ones cause nukes in this game are deadly AF and sometimes sent in volleys. Should have at least one about 15-20min into the game. T4s should only ever be sent in groups of 2-3 from my experience. Just send one and generally they are a mass donation. With 2-3 damage is dispersed and you can do far more damage and possibly kill the opponent. They also should be escorted by a massive army with proper ASF support. T2 AA is great against mobs of Air because it has pretty good AOE. Sams are great in general and are best when killing T3 and T4 (But you need banks and not a few. I use 3x3 myself) but you need FLAK to kill large groups better. Ground defense structures should always be paired. T1 should always have walls around them because it greatly increases their threat. You want T1 in front of T2 with T3 in the back and maybe coupled by 2 3x3 T2 Arty banks with T2 and T3 shields for a proper fire base. AA generally sits in the back. Cybran and UEF use Engineering stations to assist the shields. When in any positoin you should always have units building. The moment you stop is the moment you get overrun like mad. If your about to lose a volatile structure quickly start reclaiming it before its destroyed. It prevents the death explosion and could at times save your base/com. Reclaim is the name of the game in FAF. You take that mass and turn it into either your own T4 or something else. The difference between lower ranked and higher ranked players is generally down to proper build order and reclaim skill. Make sure your com is always protected before upgrading. You were a prime target for tack and mercie snipes most of the time. Properly timed drops of Arty or tanks for raiding purposes are highly effective. Also Mavor isn't overpowered like your title may suggest. Its considered a game ender and yes you can defend from it with enough shields and assisting the shields. Especially UEF considering the Shield Support Coms and Shield Com have amazing HP on them alone. Mavor also can hit everywhere on pretty much every map except in the very large ones where it can hit about 1/2 way or so from corner to corner. It also has a dead zone where it can't shoot so be prepared for it. Can also surround the Mavor with t3 power to increase fire rate (works for all Arty).
This is great advice but I would also add to build your factory(s) next to a hydro at the beginning because it decreases energy usage of that factory and increases overall efficiency.
also t1 pgens work to ring it good advice though thanks i am currently a noob trying to get good and this is goood advice now i just have to try actually use it! but thanks
Me: *Has only played SupCom2* Me: *Brain Explodes*
Although that is much more interesting and nice that the higher tiers don't just outclass the lower tiers completely and that each tier has its own role to play in a defensive line. Unlike SupCom2 where you build a pd wall, spam aa behind that wall, and shields behind them and pray to god the ai or enemy player isn't smart enough to go around.
Wow! What a good guide lost in comment section.
I've first heard about sc in 2009 and since then I've been quite a huge fan of the series. It makes me really happy that there still are some people making videos, whether it's from the older sc's or sc2 or even both. Thanks, Andros!
@Riku Penttila Very rarely, but yeah I guess. Though I gotta say, I never was good at the games, lol.
*other than those 2-3 other people who are constantly producing videos and streaming supreme commander forged alliance
All the t1 engineers be like: Unclaimed mass here? Maybe theres unclaimed mass here!
hello andros another great video 😀👍 keep up the good work
you werent going down in mass from your teams overflow and your mexes still generate mass while upgrading they just use a lot too
Hay at 15 min ur shields took dmg from the t3 turrets. Sometimes t3 land turrets when firing on the ground in the dome from your shield will lower its shield capacity. Also love the video. Would love to play with you sometime.
YAY PAPADROS YOURE BACK!! BRUH I MISSED YALL SO MUCH!!!!!!
Hey andros, you forgot to put energy generators around the mavor, really increases its firerate, even if they’re tech 1
I still have supreme commander 2 on 360 time to time I play great game it's a classic
my jump from FAF to SC2 was massive, i could always win with T3 structure rush without units, i could beat hard mode rush and turtle this way however in sup com 2 i cannot even beat a hard ai because units are so key
Neither of those bots are even slightly challenging
understood but pushing T3 at the start with strictly just structures against a hard rush ai makes it kinda tricky...
mostly because units come at you before you have even gotten half way to tier 2
You can kill all non alx Ai by spamming t1 within 12 mins, if you are going straight to t3 building no t1 tanks that is why you struggle
ah it's no struggle i just place up a few tier 1 turrets as the first wave of enemy tanks role in followed up by some tier 2's and shortly after tier 3's you can usually win by rushing artillery or nukes to finish them by the 30-ish min mark
T2 aa is best against t1 air btw 👍
yeah artie is much stronger but much more expensiv then in supcom 2. want to play with you one time ^^
Mavors take an incredibly large amount of mass and energy, alongside time to build. Which is probably why your friend was a lot lower on mass than you
is this a old supreme commander Game
Ya honestly, that game has a lot of sound bugs and AI pathing problems, but MAN is it fun, why did they remove the Tiers from supcom2? You can even get mods for forged alliance and I tell you I can sit there and build experiments tech1's! for hours, oh please get mods and do a match. *They have a mod thats multiplayer compatible and it's just additional option to build a spaceship facrory and the ships are HUGE and they can fight one another, amazing stuff, try it out.*
Whats le map
Trash51 don’t know about mods but it was a version of the pass
You shall not pass dunno which version
thermopolai the pass/12 you the pass also dont play this map for your rating just dont
Can you please do Supreme Commander 2 again
It would be much better if you turn on the map.
i dont use the map on sc2 either lol
SC2 is more tactical game with small map and fewer units. Here the map is the only way to keep in sight strategic situation.
take hydros way relly fast not so slow
dont draw conclusions from playing against "AI" (rather bots)
Hey bud if you are ever interested me and about 6 others play a lot of FAF and vs bots most of the time just shoot me a dm on KZhead of you are down to hop in some games
If you think they are OP, come 1v1 me and try kill me with one ;)
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