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Yes, please, keep the tech tier list format going forward. I love listening to long videos while I work
The disrespect to Droplet 🥲
And to nibiru lmao
He’s correct on both .. droplet is not good
I also think droplet’s power depends on the type of deck you’re playing. It’s an auto-include in Drytron or Phantom Knights, where you don’t need a lot of cards in your hand to pop off. I’ve discarded four cards for Droplet, playing Drytron, negates their whole board, and continued to otk.
@@naoufalkarroua8922and the deck that could utilize droplets currently not perform well, soo..
@@deanoxd968 droplet is still good in tear, live*twin and drytron.
Perhaps Sky Crisis should be on the list, it doesn't require much setup like Zeus, it's basically like a Pankratops/Fenrir. Together with Talents or Change of Heart it's strong
Sky Crisis locks you of summoning for the rest of the turn so it kind of disqualifies as being a Boardbreaker. Its more Like a Plan D after Plan A-C failed but did enough so one more bounce at least fully clears. Good Card but there is little to no Synergie with stealers. If i go Change of Heart on an opponents Bossmonster and it somehow didnt get negated or dodged I can not just put Sky Crisis on top, I first have to play the rest of my turn but still have to stay under the ATK of whatever I want to take as material vor
Sky Crisis is more situational to thwart the likes of 3k+ boss monsters after you’ve lost control of the match whereas Zeus is an actual board breaker. And in that same situation there are other boss monsters that get under that threshold and laugh at it
Sometimes Fenrir beats really just clears, it's crazy. I'm always torn about it being at 3 but I kind of want it to stay around because I just like that extra piece of interaction it gives a lot of decks. Maybe if it went to 2 but sheeesh. Your opponent bricks and you start hitting them with Fenrir they're going to feel it.
Last format I had a really low opinion of Fenrir but right now it's that one extra push or roadblock needed to seal games. It's easily one of the best cards in the game.
Ah yes, we refer to this as the pank control effect
Depends. Like against meta decks, Just Fenrir control isn't gonna do much. Against the rogue decks though, it has more of an impact.
I think that we deserve more Pankrotops while Fenrir exists at anything more than 1, it’s just not fair to the boy.
DD crow is criminally low lol. Stops tear, can stop a purrely lily from xyzing,you could maybe stop a turbulence coming out (bit unlikely), good vs horus, decent vs lab, and it's going to do a lot vs fire kings. People overlook it can banish cards, not monsters. Not saying its S tier, but lower than gamma/delta package? Lower than retaliating c? Lower than lancia? Lol
It’s extremely versatile yes, but it’s almost always a -1. Yeah you stop an effect but your opp is triggering them all at no cost. This is offset if your deck naturally accrues resources like VS, sure. But as a general interruption there’s more value to be had elsewhere I’m sure
Cyber Dragon is worth considering because an S:P in the EMZ can turn into a 2400 body and doesn’t need the BP to get rid of it. Biggest issue is that it conflicts with Fenrir which is usually better.
Cydra claps rescue ace though and easily all kind of extra monsters It’s not as good as Fenrir for sure but a k no ice tech
It would be nice to have a separate category for cards like shifter which are very powerful, but only in some decks. Feels weird to gauge the power of cards like Droplet or Lava Golem, when their power is heavily based on what deck its being used in as opposed to Ash Blossom, where its power is independent of the deck its being played in.
I don’t understand why raigeki is so slept on it’s either a negate bait or a board wipe, there’s almost no downside strategically
I still run it, and tbh a lot of decks rely on gy, so really, it's hit or miss either they scoop, or you've given them life to set up a better board an otk you.
With Effect Veiler and Ghost Mourner, you also have the decide if you want a Level 3 Tuner or 1 Level 1 Tuner as well.
I hate that the meta is often such that you have to pair up impactful cards to be effective. I played against infernoble and was destroyed going second but even going first I had to Dweller/Droll him to stop him.
Deck Lockdown, Hey, Trunade!, Laughing Puffin, the Strike of Neos common monster steals, Typhoon, Lord of the Heavanly Prison, Heavanly Zephyr Miradora, Bahalutiya the Grand Radiance, Herald Lights, Chaos Hunter, and Sauravis come to mind
Ghost Ogre is a solid card, but you're probably not going to have space for it over the other options. It does however become exponentially more powerful in decks that already run Emergency Teleport. That way, if you don't need it for extension, your Teleport suddenly doubles as interruption, or it turns Fenrir into Baronne.
the problem with orgre is that it doesn't negate and only good as e-tele target. It does absolutely nothing in your hand and shouldn't be considered a hand trap except when your opponent plays field/ continuous trap/ spells oriented deck.
Great list just about what I was expecting. Didn’t know bystial and veiler were that good 👍
Loving Spellbound this format. Great side card for so many matchups.
If Called By was Semi limited like it is in the OCG, it’d definitely be S/A tier since we are in a hand trap format
Crossout is just as good if not better than called by. Everyone runs the same shit so crossout goes farther than people think. Also it can stop spells/traps where called by doesn’t
@@jgarb1 Every situation and deck is different. Crossout does its thing BUT only if your deck has space for it. Crossout hits a majority of handtraps, more specifically Nibiru and Imperm over Called By which only hits monsters that hit the grave which is fair. But Called By can hit monsters that just need to be removed from the game to also disrupt, for example hitting a Dark Magician or Fallen of Albaz where other decks are not on those cards to make Crossout relevant.
@@jujubeanz009 crossout in mannadium has been unbelievably phenomenal. Negate whatever bullshit they throw at you (ash, Imperm, droll) and build the fattest fucking board the game has seen. Keep sleeping on this card and I guarantee you it’ll be the one to show how relevant it truly is
i think trip tactics thrust(should be B tier) is much worse than ttt because the only use of thrust is going 2nd board breaker while talents can be used on 1st and second and yeah ik you can set a imperm or so but still i dont believe its worth having over talents the sheer utility of turn 1 plays like if you have plays to see your oponents hands to rip out their handtraps(nib) or draw 2 to extend if you have bad combos and with talents on turn 2 you can steal a monster or draw 2
Will you do this for master duel as well?
To me super polymerisation is just really great IF your deck have at least 2 extra deck space for the targets and your grave matter
I’ve been finding a lot of people have been finding ways to play through ash since it’s used so much, so been trying out no hand traps
Take a shot every time he says Little Knight: *dies*
Hey I know tier lists can be a little monotonous content wise but please keep doing them because it is actually useful to hear all the stuff you have to say in these videos.
Love d shifter in my crystal beast deck lol
Droplet isnt necessary for drytron? Or Phantom knights? I feel like it’s great for those decks.
I play RDA and I find called by and crossout a 100 percent mandatory to play
Consider Deck Lockdown. It beats almost every deck in the format aside from Tear. And it even beats some Tear hands...
Ghost Ogre casually Beats Isolde too, since nobody plays around It by non adding.
How do you feel about Dimensional Barrier right now?
Congrats
All hail Ash Blossom, may she reign for 1000 years and 1000 years more!
there is no way on any tier list that fenrir isn't S tier not once to special summon searches itself can out any face up card just sits there instant pressure
Excelent list
Say you play a runick deck with only 6 spots... and 3 are ash... what are the other 3 spots? veiler?
Why no Back to Square One??
19:33 Me shoving 21 non-engine into Marincess for no reason.
Same but 18 for me because I cut 3 slots for Desires + called by 😂
everyone forgets about doomstar ulka :(
No, what about Spooky Dogwood??
My 3 decks got destroyed by Droll&Lock. While I can still make a good board after being Ashed.
Something that is niche, but very strong if your deck can run it, is clockwork night. Going second it forces multiple interactions because it threatens a non destructive board wipe (chimeratech fortress dragon) as well as a search for an omni negate (king Regulus). Going first it is less useful, but has some niche floodgate effects against some of the current combo decks (mannadium/infernoble). Against mannadium it reduces their stats by 500 so they are forced to start with visas specifically or a lot of their extenders are turned off and against infernoble, it turns all of their monsters to machines so it turns off isolde access as well as a lot of their extenders like Renaud. Niche, but if your deck can use it, it is a very strong card.
it's a non destructive board wipe that forces you to play cyber dragon and instaloses if it or the cyber dragon gets destroyed
@@shegara632 that's why I said if your deck can run it. There's a couple of cyber dragon variants running around that can easily side (or main) it alongside 1 regulus. Those are spright and branded. Branded cydra makes better use of clockwork, but cydra spright is probably the better deck of the 2 as a deck. I have heard of a centurion variant being worked on as well, but am yet to test that out for myself to see if it's any good or not.
My favorite tech is gnomaterial.
What about mistaken arrest?
First tier list he has made that i agree with
things like crow and bystials makes ghost belle not that bad tbh
are these all side deck cards
What about anti spell?
from tech card are called staple card
Besides Marincess & Mathmech, what (if any) decks can run 15-18 non-engine in a 40 card deck?
Salamangreat
Swordsoul
Purrely
Centurion
Pure spright
pls include some of the relevant generic traps that can't be activated from hand in the next one, even the lame floodgates so people know what to prep for! ❤️ like, surely there is at least 1 trap besides imperm and evenly that's worth at least siding in non-lab if you know you're going first and want a nice thrust target or something :c
Did not include twin twister
Suggestion: Add solemn cards for ranking next time
curious on your thoughts on hey, tunade! its easily accessible backrow removal
Where do I Imperm Rescue Ace? I’ve been struggling to get consistent value out of it in this matchup. Using it too early gets punished by emergency, if I chain to turbulence they can dodge with SP. if I hit the turb on summon they have the potential to summon another one. There’s no obvious choke point here. 🤔
Always imperm turbulence. They normally have already used Emergency. If they have SP you use it before they activate the effect. They dodge it but it doesn't resolve
you are right that Imperm can easily be countered by Rescue Ace in some hands. Unfortunately the nature of many handtraps these days is that one extra extender can make them obsolete in a lot of decks, I would say the only way to feel safe against those decks is to open multiple handtraps which is why people tend to play more of them now
Smh should’ve uploaded this ytd so I could get the tcgplayer cashback bonus ordering the ones I was missing /s. Thank you for the vid Josh 😊
Dimensional barrier
Called by the grave and crossout is B tier in TCG. but in MD, it is S tier and must have, thank to Maxx c exist.
Called by would be S tier in the TCG as well if it was at 3. The card is super good both offensively and defensively, but because you see it so rarely, you can't rely on drawing it as often.
I think tou forgot Alpha and the solem cards.
Dinos go brrrrrrrr
I'm curious how you feel about Daruma cannon outside of Labrynth
it's just a brick going 2nd it doesn't break boards and it doesn't prevent opponent from playing the only thing I can see it get value from is by pairing it with arias but then it becomes hard to pull off
I dispise fenrir becasue its just too ginericly good and always will be good would love to see it limited so it cant search itself or just straight up ban the fucker
Sauravis?
What’s your opinion on Lullaby of Obedience? Been having some success with it in MD even if it’s just pulling an opponents Maxx C. Does it have any relevance in the current TCG format?
The reason that card isn't viable in TCG is because it isn't a guarantee that people are running the same cards where as in Master Duel EVERYBODY is on ash and Maxx C. It'll just end up being a brick in your hand.
It’s an extender in gold pride. Thats basically about it
even in MD that card sucks like you got a maxx c or ash on your board good then what? that card is so specific to certain decks which I can see it get play for just kashtira to get baronne and spright although there are better extenders for spright than this@@kermitthetoad9093
There's also the problem of "I don't have it in my deck I swear"
Judge has a special defensive ability that stops your opponent from targeting it with card effects. No cheaters facing Judge will be safe due to its multiple energy blades! @@donaxygo
What do you think on Ghost sister? Pretty spicy but can be a free win in G3-s, or in G2-s after a long G1. Especially if you can search it like unchained does. What's your opinion Master?
where would u put daruma karma?
The annoying thing about the format is how much you have to consider for the different decks in the format. Like I can prepare my main/side for the meta decks like R-ACE, Purrely and Infernobles, but then I forget about the rogue decks like Runick Stun and just outright lose.
Where Lightning Storm ?
“Stopping your opponent from playing” is what yugioh has been reduced to. Lmaooo
When you compare bystial to crow it seems like you consider the general aspect instead of what it is in this format where crow actually halve unchained board by itself
I'll disagree with droplet and crow since crow is a lot more versatile than bystials I believe it diserves a better spot and it can have a lot of impact in specific matchups. Droplet can be treated at worst case scenario as a 6th card -1 imperm but since there's not a lot of shifter decks I believe it's a solid side deck option if your deck can afford just the 1 discard since you can use it with more versatility other than just break boards since it can dodge targets and close chains so I believe it's at least a B tier. Other than that the list looks pretty solid
Without finishing watching this video, I want to say something important for me. I really love the idea of one bigger non-engine/tech tier list instead of two seperated in hand traps and board breakers. Keep this please! 👃
I see Droll and Lock Bird high on the tier list. Is that still the sign of a bad format as people used to say?
Droll isn’t here by necessity, but by sheer power. You don’t need to Droll in main deck or die. But you should run it, because so many decks are so resilient to disruption that only Droll can answer them cleanly… and sometimes they can still put up something decent through it.
If droll is a maindeck staple that HAS to be played for a deck to be viable, it's probably a bad format. However, it existing in the format as a strong side deck option does not inherently make a format bad.
Small World
Shifter is really bricky though isn't it? Even in kashtira
Fire king video??
Beautiful
can you explain why raigeki is f tier, drnm is c, and fenrir a, to me fenrir seems ok, good in some but not all decks, why drnm seems really good at turning off so many boards, and raigeki at least trades omni for it
A lot of good decks right now don't really care about monster destruction. Purrely isn't affected, unchained floats off from it, rescue-ace and labrynth main disruption cames from backrow, mikanko simply put floodgate on your field.
@@leonidasgone9218 yes, i really didn't understand why drnm is so down, evn with the reason from the video it just seems so good to just not have to deal with your ops board, and that fenrir is a seemed like one for one trading
@@godzilia2 TCG has things called time rules so anything that annuls your opponent LP damage simply hampers your chance to win. Adds that it's completely doing nothing going first compared to set an imperm at least from thrust or just simply rips your opponent's hand with talent.
@@leonidasgone9218 thanks
@@leonidasgone9218 DRNM isn't bad this format because of time rules, it's bad this format because a lot of decks in the format simply don't care about it. Unchained only loses caesar to it, since they can just pop their rage and get it back with yama, letting them reactivate said rage. Rescue Ace's main interruptions are set spells/traps Tear has a way to play through DRNM in Sulliek Infernoble negates with angelic ring Purrely tag out with leap and Noir is unaffected. Mikanko sets up acid golem on your board, which DRNM cannot negate I guess you can hit Dragon Link or something with it, but yeah point is DRNM doesn't hit much going second this format.
droplet wins so much matches evenly is so damm good in this meta...yeah little night omg...i give a fuck to little night...but ash is good XD no deck is stopped by ash or imp alone so u need more then one of this cards and a lot of this cards are bricks if u draw it multiple and let u brick to much...at the moment there is no end board what instant wins u can easy breake it with so many ways with boe drop and so one u dont need stuipd ash imp...only droll and nib are good they can stop instant
Ogre is not even close to crow
Is this a reupload?
lol
lol chat asking Josh what negates lab has and he just ignores it lmao
Yugioh YT pros are a joke, its just biased as all hell.
kaiju better than encore
U miss SP little knight😂😂😂
this is main deck techs
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Techs should be separated from board wipes and hand traps which most of these are. Fenrhir can be considered a tech because it's good on its own, but better fits under engine category. Lava Golem and Called By the Grave are most definitely techs. They do a single thing very well, they aren't a "small deck" (engine) nor a hand trap or board wipe. Harpy's Feather Duster is hard because it is a board wipe but only spells/traps so it's kind of a tech hybrid. Contact C is a hybrid too but a bad one. There's just too many generics and always has been. C really fucks with Branded players though so that's worth it honestly. Bystials are the dark trifecta of busted. Good hand trap good engine. Would be good hand trap too if this format were at all different.
Controversial take: the game would be more fun if every card in S and A tier were banned.
I'm so glad I don't really play this game anymore.
Yet you still watch these videos and post comments.
@@Ragnarok540What's your point by saying obvious things kid? He doesn't have to play anymore to be a careful observer of how toxic the game has evolved to.
Bystials are awful and so bricky 😂😂😂