Socrates Meets Jesus

2013 ж. 19 Қар.
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A performance of the play SOCRATES MEETS JESUS by Kevin O'Brien, based on the book by Peter Kreeft, at the American Chesterton Society Conference in Worcester, MA on August 2, 2013

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  • Guy playing Socrates is a great actor.

    @brianjosephestanislao3511@brianjosephestanislao351110 жыл бұрын
    • its like as if he is Socrates' doppelganger.

      @Vifnis@Vifnis10 жыл бұрын
    • Playing? But he is

      @slackerengi2401@slackerengi24014 жыл бұрын
    • @@Vifnis He is Socrates!!! Like the real one omg

      @graffitiabcd@graffitiabcd3 жыл бұрын
  • "But an open mind exists to be shut around an idea that is true..." Gold

    @donaldobama8799@donaldobama87995 жыл бұрын
    • A good quote by G.K. Chesterton

      @stevied3400@stevied34003 жыл бұрын
  • I have never studied theater, but I am Amazed how actors do this. How can they remember so many lines and make it look so natural? Great Job! Interesting Subject!

    @robertlaabs5066@robertlaabs50662 жыл бұрын
    • Memorization and practice look like magic to the outsider

      @rckli@rckli Жыл бұрын
  • "The modern philosopher is not trying to get rid of the troublesome men, he's trying to get rid of men because they are the troubles of the philosopher." - G.K. Chesterton

    @A_Box_of_Rocks99@A_Box_of_Rocks993 жыл бұрын
    • Although he uttered some great quotable lines I would say I'd have to disagree with this one. For if there is no men there is no philosophy. If there is no men there is no God. For it is man whom creates Gods not the other way around. It is man whom creates philosophy. Not the other way around. I do like some of Chesterton's quotes but I find no truth in them.

      @phillipstroll7385@phillipstroll73853 жыл бұрын
    • @@phillipstroll7385 That's because you're a materialist............

      @Nomansland77@Nomansland772 жыл бұрын
  • This play is more energetic and inspiring than most Christian movies.

    @ArtisticLayman@ArtisticLayman9 жыл бұрын
    • Passion of Christ?

      @ArthaxtaDaVince777@ArthaxtaDaVince7776 жыл бұрын
    • Man, that was so stupid that i must say that you just said it to seem cool and witty . Neither was accomplished. Fool.

      @eclipsesolar8345@eclipsesolar83454 жыл бұрын
    • ArtisticLayman you’ve been seeing the wrong movies then 😊

      @melissarivera7477@melissarivera74774 жыл бұрын
    • Protestang movies are trash, Catholic ones are great.

      @ShaNaNa242@ShaNaNa2423 жыл бұрын
    • @@ShaNaNa242 You just need to ignore the false claim of authority the Roman church makes.

      @ArtisticLayman@ArtisticLayman3 жыл бұрын
  • I am in awe at the hability to even memorize all that.

    @gre8@gre87 жыл бұрын
  • What I admire here most is how fluent Socrates is in english. Even better than visiting extraterrestrials.

    @panostriantaphillou766@panostriantaphillou76610 жыл бұрын
    • He got the command in English along with his full registration and tuition

      @robertlehnert4148@robertlehnert41482 жыл бұрын
  • This should be on the Big Screen, and by the wat, deserves a Grammy

    @abelphilosophy4835@abelphilosophy48354 жыл бұрын
  • Makes me want to read the Old Testament. The way Kevin O'Brien personifies Socrates and the way Socrates goes on and on over the Bible really is quite inspiring.

    @MontChevalier@MontChevalier10 жыл бұрын
    • So much

      @fousterokelloblaizy4031@fousterokelloblaizy40314 жыл бұрын
    • Lol till you realize Socrates wouldn’t accept what a book says blindly

      @rckli@rckli Жыл бұрын
    • @@rckli Did you even watch the video?

      @MontChevalier@MontChevalier Жыл бұрын
    • @@MontChevalier yeah - that’s why I wrote what I wrote 😅 did you even examine what I wrote critically before asking your rhetorical question?

      @rckli@rckli Жыл бұрын
    • @@rckli I read what you wrote, but I still have doubts that you watched the video. First off, how much do you know about Socrates? Have you even read any of his stuff?

      @MontChevalier@MontChevalier Жыл бұрын
  • Christianity is Rational and Love is the highest Philosophy ! Amazing Socrates & Jesus parallel ! And the Uniqueness of Christ !!

    @mr.clandestine7259@mr.clandestine72599 жыл бұрын
    • Watch out for ‘situational ethics’ though!

      @agape777@agape777 Жыл бұрын
  • I receive similar treatment from my friends when I discuss philosophy. I try to emulate Socrates' idea of questioning instead of telling. Truly annoys many people as they dislike being questioned on core beliefs for which they cannot explain the detail.

    @TieXiongJi@TieXiongJi7 жыл бұрын
    • I had a falling out of sorts with a very good friend of mine over asking him questions. Well, maybe not just because of questions, but questions were never faced or answered directly and honestly. And I insisted he answer them if the discussion was to advance. He was trying to start the conversation at the wrong end. It got too annoying for him. He changed his Email and cell #, though I don't know if that was specifically because of me. The timing was odd, however.

      @rougebaba3887@rougebaba38874 жыл бұрын
    • @@rougebaba3887 seems to me of a passion had to change emails and # to avoid answering a question, the pain asking them must be of the stake mentality. Also, if your premise was that of truth then tell me, how was there a wrong place in which to begin a conversation? If truth is truth then what difference would it make which end one began? The arrival at the destination would be the same, would it not?

      @phillipstroll7385@phillipstroll73853 жыл бұрын
    • @@phillipstroll7385 "seems to me of a passion had to change emails and # to avoid answering a question," I agree, there was a whole lot of emotions involved in that conversation, at least on his end. The questions sparked some reflection perhaps, or memories from a rough childhood he'd rather just forget. I don't know how else to explain it. In short, He grew up indoctrinated into a very harsh religious framework and worldview. He later rejected this upbringing and rebelled against all those who formerly held authority over him. He went from wanting to be a spiritual leader to wanting to destroy all religion. He went from one twisted religious cult, to a totally militant atheism. He went from one extreme position to the opposite extreme, with no more real evidence for the validity of the second extreme, than he had for the first. I was just trying to discuss why he went that route and he took it as me trying to convert him, I guess. I certainly have no animosity and would love to talk to him again. But he told a mutual friend that he decided to cut all ties since I was "dangerously irrational". What made him think that way? Simple, I believe in the Christian God.... it makes me dangerous, apparently.

      @rougebaba3887@rougebaba38873 жыл бұрын
    • @@rougebaba3887 ah. Well I could understand why. That's not to say I agree but I can certainly see why. Thanks for sharing. I love to discuss religion / theology. Not because I want to change anyone else's mind, but because I hope to understand and possibly change my own. I too can not understand how a rational reasoning person can believe in Christianity. I don't vilify those whom do, but I certainly do not understand it.

      @phillipstroll7385@phillipstroll73853 жыл бұрын
    • @@phillipstroll7385 I understand. I would say that what Walt had experienced as a child was not Christianity as I have come to know it. His experience was a quasi Christian cult. It had some of the trappings of Christianity, but its base presuppositions were quite different. My only purpose in even discussing any of this with my friend was to help him see distinctions that are not minor in nature. Whenever any metaphysical conversation arose, he seemed to talk to me as if I was a member of the destructive cult he had escaped and I was trying to pull him back into that world. I had no interest whatsoever in changing his mind about his own metaphysical outlook. I only wanted to help him understand what I believed (which he simply did not), not convince him of any errors in his own beliefs. In fact, I told him plainly that it was good he rejected the beliefs of his upbringing.

      @rougebaba3887@rougebaba38873 жыл бұрын
  • This is a GREAT play! I love it, love it, looooove it! I think philosophy, theology, & theater depts. in colleges around the world should get together & do tjis play everywhere! Wonderful!

    @gloworm6387@gloworm63872 жыл бұрын
  • Splendid play, absolutely amazing!

    @TheMexican1821@TheMexican182110 жыл бұрын
  • This is a great work. Thank y’all who put this together. God bless y’all

    @abelphilosophy4835@abelphilosophy48354 жыл бұрын
  • Great depiction of Socrates. The second half strays from what we're used to in the historical Socrates because the historical Socrates never found the object he was searching for. This Socrates did,.and appropriate passion accompanied it. It is both fascinating and sad to see the intellectual quick sand the other three characters are stuck in being illustrated in some of the comments here. A hardened heart will never allow the mind to see.

    @Veritas3737@Veritas37379 жыл бұрын
  • This was Amazing, and for those who think Socrates was to acceptable. 1 hour is not that time, and the main thing was to show the falacies behind the modern philosophy rather than proving Socrates would be a Christian. Absolutely Fantastic. One hour of pure fun and joy.

    @satoshikei@satoshikei5 жыл бұрын
  • This was a brilliant performance by all standard. Excellent delivery of philosophical theories and the triumph nature of absolute Truth.

    @smartjt@smartjt6 жыл бұрын
  • Oh sweet! I just now found out about this. Read the book 15 or so years ago.

    @TheDisinterestedSpectator@TheDisinterestedSpectator7 жыл бұрын
  • This was amazing. Hail Christ The King.

    @arthurcuesta6041@arthurcuesta60412 жыл бұрын
  • Absolutely loved this! Thanks for sharing.

    @dantecualesjr@dantecualesjr9 жыл бұрын
  • Most enjoyable.

    @garynorthtruro@garynorthtruro9 жыл бұрын
  • I have so many IDEAS from this skit. I've watched this twice already. I wish he was still around to discuss things that regular people judge you upon.

    @perryhenn2612@perryhenn26125 жыл бұрын
  • That was stellar, both the adaptation and the performance. Congratulations.

    @TebowTheNextKilmer@TebowTheNextKilmer10 жыл бұрын
  • I think it'll be our duty now to make or write . " Apology for Socrates " 😅

    @izumihanagata1148@izumihanagata11484 жыл бұрын
  • Great play! Thank you!

    @TieXiongJi@TieXiongJi7 жыл бұрын
  • That's a great play! Even as an atheist, I think the same way as Socrates. If what the Bible claims is true, then where are all the real Christians?

    @jacobopstad5483@jacobopstad54835 жыл бұрын
    • I sound like I am making excuses, but the only one who thought and behaved 100% like a Christian was Christ Himself. And Christianity seems to tell us that unless God changes us from the inside, we have absolutely no hope of changing ourselves. I have met many "Christians" but know only a handful. Outside of Christ's perfection, the only real Christians I know are those who seem to never make excuses for their own sinful behavior. And they sympathizes with the weaknesses of others because they are so grateful and joyful overall. It's a weird combination. They are introspective enough to, in a very real sense, despise themselves, while being kind, merciful and loving towards those who, from all appearances, are worse people than they presently are. My brother Tim is a Christian. So is my brother Eric and Sister Pam. I want to be one also... which tells me I am being changed by God's mercy. Plenty of people would admire some of their traits (their joyful ways and compassionate demeanor) but in other ways, few would want to be them, what with their constant praise to God for anything good in themselves while taking complete blame for anything that is bad. But I want to be like that now.

      @rougebaba3887@rougebaba38874 жыл бұрын
    • Well, the key here is to understand exactly what you define as a real Christian. A real Christian is one who has simply accepted, through faith, a belief in JESUS, confessed it, and repents. Accepting HIS transforming power. Although, man fails and sometimes cuts HIS spirit short. But the thing is, and where such a truth lies to someone who doesn’t believe, is that CHRIST is continually working in someone. It isn’t always an immediate transformation, although an immediate transformation begins. The point of this lies in the belief that JESUS is a great physician, church is the hospital, and we are the sick. You don’t usually find yourself in the office when you feel well, only once you recognize you’re sick to you begin scheduling your appointments. We cannot totally eradicate sin so therefore it’s a constant communion and effort to allow CHRIST to transform us inwardly and outwardly into HIS image.

      @armyofone8537@armyofone85373 жыл бұрын
    • A real Christian is one who accepts the dogma of the Catholic Church.

      @ShaNaNa242@ShaNaNa2423 жыл бұрын
    • I like you.

      @jesseredwards@jesseredwards3 жыл бұрын
    • @@ShaNaNa242 are the Protestant and Orthodox unreal then?

      @christophersnedeker2065@christophersnedeker20653 жыл бұрын
  • Great Theatre. With a combination of humour. I loved this.

    @francismasha7432@francismasha74328 жыл бұрын
  • this is great enjoyed it very much thx 4 the upload! :3

    @demigod5219@demigod52199 жыл бұрын
  • Thanks! Great production!!!

    @cristoreyfarm4898@cristoreyfarm48983 жыл бұрын
  • thank you so much for the play it was well interpreted

    @aldemirobarros77@aldemirobarros777 жыл бұрын
  • Incredibly - Credibly delightful! Thank you, Kevin, for wrestling with the Publisher! Now t's 2023 & I hope everyone involved ~ Kreeft, O'Brien, the amazing actors and the Chesterton Society Conference have all aged well, this last crazy decade!

    @JackKosherDog@JackKosherDog5 ай бұрын
  • Great job by everyone involved

    @jackstewart753@jackstewart7534 жыл бұрын
  • Definitely worth watching :)

    @DarrenEnns1@DarrenEnns19 жыл бұрын
  • Thanks for the play

    @kingzepeda3165@kingzepeda31656 жыл бұрын
  • Om my i really enjoy this video👏🏾👏🏾thank you.

    @ramseyrashelle1899@ramseyrashelle18992 жыл бұрын
  • Well-made and excellent content play!

    @OnCharmLee@OnCharmLee5 жыл бұрын
  • This is so good. Really enjoyed this. Very well done. Thank you.

    @tiffmat9475@tiffmat9475 Жыл бұрын
  • Most beautiful and provocative dialogue between friends toward truth. Well done!

    @orwellhuxley6301@orwellhuxley63012 жыл бұрын
  • this sparked my faith. incredible.

    @ElJubranco@ElJubranco4 жыл бұрын
  • excellent and entertaining

    @Bee-yq4ss@Bee-yq4ss9 жыл бұрын
  • Really good play. Watched it twice now.

    @fridge3489@fridge348911 ай бұрын
  • The person who solves a 10-dimensional equation, and persons who solve a linear equation, a quadratic equation, or a cubic equation.

    @OnCharmLee@OnCharmLee4 жыл бұрын
  • Very good enjoyed it

    @im7401@im74018 жыл бұрын
  • Wow! amazing!

    @UNCLE_T_DIARIES@UNCLE_T_DIARIES10 жыл бұрын
  • This is great!!!

    @patarikisoterion9899@patarikisoterion98997 жыл бұрын
  • Excellent play!

    @jakepokemonman1227@jakepokemonman12276 жыл бұрын
  • I loved this.

    @OnGodspath@OnGodspath9 жыл бұрын
  • I love Peter Kreeft's Socrates books! Thanks for uploading this!! BTW, I'm amazed at your acting ability because I keep seeing characters and most of them turn out to be you. :)

    @danceswithbears2521@danceswithbears252110 жыл бұрын
  • GREAT JOB!

    @robertlaabs5066@robertlaabs50662 жыл бұрын
  • I loved this 😆😆😆. I didn't know I was using the socrates thing with the questions

    @fortruth5883@fortruth5883 Жыл бұрын
  • This was fantastic

    @RenaissanceShe@RenaissanceShe4 жыл бұрын
  • Well done. Thoroughly enjoyed that - especially the references to postmodernism!

    @haikonieuwoudt6373@haikonieuwoudt63738 жыл бұрын
  • This was a very beautiful and inspiring film. I loved Socrates' iron logic throughout.

    @djmitch18@djmitch188 жыл бұрын
    • +djmitch18 There is often illogic and presumptuoisnes in the statements attributed to the character Socrates

      @blatophobia@blatophobia8 жыл бұрын
  • Inspiring!

    @Dontmarryher@Dontmarryher10 жыл бұрын
  • Greeks were well aware of the Jews. In fact, within three generations from Socrates, Judea was conquered by Alexander the Great. Greeks were never altogether affected by Hebrew scriptures, as compared to the Jews who adopted Hellenic lifestyles.

    @brcx3001@brcx30014 жыл бұрын
    • Ah, but they were certainly affected by the New Testament weren't they?

      @linchpin1872@linchpin18722 жыл бұрын
    • The Greeks of Socrates day only as an obscure satrapy of the Persian Empire

      @robertlehnert4148@robertlehnert41482 жыл бұрын
    • *sigh* what's the Septuagint? what's Hellenic Judaism? who were the Ptolemies? what was a whole age of philosophy?

      @lorefox201@lorefox2012 жыл бұрын
  • Socrates getting down to the meat n' potatoes of the biblical claims was some inspiring stuff!

    @omarharo3132@omarharo31322 жыл бұрын
  • Thank you Stephen West

    @jeloyap8553@jeloyap85533 жыл бұрын
  • Loved it.

    @RobertLisboa@RobertLisboa3 ай бұрын
  • this was great!!!

    @kevinparra508@kevinparra5087 жыл бұрын
  • Excellent!

    @sherryblack7586@sherryblack75862 жыл бұрын
  • Brilliant!

    @FergusFromwalking@FergusFromwalking6 жыл бұрын
  • well done! I hope it gets professionally filmed and distributed far and wide!

    @tjc3918@tjc39186 жыл бұрын
  • Nice beard. Great play. Truly great!

    @DarrylJordanOLW@DarrylJordanOLW10 жыл бұрын
  • Socrates is my nickname amongst my friends. Not because I think I'm right, but because I ask questions which forces them to know they are wrong lol.

    @phillipstroll7385@phillipstroll73853 жыл бұрын
  • well done.

    @stephenandersen4625@stephenandersen46258 жыл бұрын
  • Very inspiring

    @jeanettenacke8894@jeanettenacke88946 жыл бұрын
  • This is brilliant!

    @babysharkdododododo4517@babysharkdododododo4517 Жыл бұрын
  • This is so prophetic...how relevant this is...

    @supersmart671@supersmart67120 күн бұрын
  • Omg this plays needs to be on Broadway. Even, that l never been...

    @Kricura@Kricura5 жыл бұрын
  • Good job.

    @vincenttorrieri7321@vincenttorrieri732110 жыл бұрын
  • Excellent

    @alexandervogt7904@alexandervogt790410 жыл бұрын
  • How delightful😎

    @bradleymayberry6739@bradleymayberry673910 ай бұрын
  • Great play

    @rickaym@rickaym7 ай бұрын
  • The dialog of the Gorgeous comes to mind

    @jurgenblick5491@jurgenblick54914 жыл бұрын
  • It amazes me how anyone can remember all of their lines.

    @jsamc@jsamc2 жыл бұрын
  • The reason I do the truth is that through it I can live calmly and peacefully without fear, agony, pride and confusion while seeing everything in this universe objectively and knowing exactly what human beings and I are. OnCharm Lee (Author of the book "Humanss & Truth")

    @OnCharmLee@OnCharmLee6 жыл бұрын
  • It’s cute to think Socrates would’ve accepted the words in a book just because the book said it happened

    @rckli@rckli Жыл бұрын
  • i love it

    @renegade5942@renegade59423 жыл бұрын
  • This was great. Could someone refer me to more of the same? Thanks.

    @agape777@agape777 Жыл бұрын
  • Bravo!

    @darlenewright5850@darlenewright58505 жыл бұрын
  • I was sure I wouldn't watch this. I was then sure I wouldn't like it. It was brilliant.

    @SuperIliad@SuperIliad2 жыл бұрын
  • Great theater ....I laughed so much !!!...hehe

    @MrCostiZz@MrCostiZz8 жыл бұрын
  • Brilliant

    @fbtcentral2689@fbtcentral26898 жыл бұрын
  • Absolutely astonishing. He is alive!

    @mgj3428@mgj34287 жыл бұрын
  • *Anticipating The Coming of Socrates* 0:56 Based on the book by Peter Kreeft 3:16 Professor 5:28 Socrates 6:57 Socratic Method 7:33 Progress 9:27 Debunking 10:02 Socrates arrived & Dr Nuance introduces him 11:18 God 1 or Many? 12:16 The Christ Event? 13:20 Philosophy is not a department 14:05 “The unexamined life is not worth living.” 16:09 All Religions are The Same. If If If If 17:23 Religions are unique 18:08 “It’s about feelings… or politics.” 19:05 Human or Divine? 20:54 What does it mean to be a Christian? *There is No Truth?* 22:22 What Is Truth? 48:28 49:19 A Still Small Voice and Also An Earthquake 50:34 Love 51:22 Jealousy 52:06 What Did You Learn? 53:09 Something more than a pretense 53:27 Meeting a person. 55:11 Twisted Interpretation and Bare Witness To The Truth 56:33 Strong, Full of Life, turned the world upside down. It Is ALL or Nothing. 57:33 Fidelity 58:02 Casual Lovers 58:51 59:55 "In A Sense" 1:00:32 Spring comes at Easter Time 1:01:50 They Knew He Rose and They Died For Him as He Died For Them. 1:03:23 Truth 1:04:28 Do You Believe? 1:05:09 1:06:19 Resurrection of The Spirit 1:06:56 A Miracle 1:07:55 Bow

    @thattimestampguy@thattimestampguy Жыл бұрын
    • Thank you, That Time Stamp Guy!

      @KevinOBrien101660@KevinOBrien101660 Жыл бұрын
  • I would like to sub it in portuguese. HAve you got the script?

    @daishoo@daishoo6 жыл бұрын
  • That was pretty dang cool, but here's my question: who are the actors?

    @LeviTheBeliever@LeviTheBeliever8 жыл бұрын
  • Wonderful

    @mongooseman3744@mongooseman37445 жыл бұрын
  • Among the plays I have seen and the stories of truth I have heard, these are the stories about the most rational, most truthful, and righteous truth and God that I can mention by hand... OnCharm Lee (Author of the book “Humans & Truth - Human life is the awakening process”)

    @OnCharmLee@OnCharmLee6 жыл бұрын
  • For all those naysayers out there this is pure Socrates. I'n every dialogue I read of his its like, of course Socrates your right how could any body think otherwise! This is Christian version of that.

    @praiseoffolly4235@praiseoffolly42356 жыл бұрын
  • When will this be coming to my town?

    @ciaran6171@ciaran61716 жыл бұрын
  • 57:20 Socrates passionate speech on love

    @michaelpisciarino5348@michaelpisciarino53486 жыл бұрын
  • That book is not about love. It's about worship. Jesus parts are quite nice, but can't imagine Socrates reading Book of Job where god scared Job into submission after asking a question.

    @dontbeadebil5046@dontbeadebil50465 жыл бұрын
    • He wasn't scared, he was humbled.

      @edbohi2389@edbohi23894 жыл бұрын
    • @@edbohi2389 same thing for someone that makes the vice of pride into the highest virtue

      @lorefox201@lorefox2012 жыл бұрын
  • It's fantastical that Socrates returns, reads the bible and laps it up as the truth that there is one god because of this one account. Good dialogue though!

    @osianmuhammad@osianmuhammad8 жыл бұрын
    • Well you would have to be pretty blind not to see the accuracy of the bible though misused by church leaders. The whole point is to give you a blue print of the best way to live. The other purpose was to prove the validity of God and then step back to give everyone there own choice. It amazes me Christian's especially who claim there faith is important and they dont even bother to spend a couple years diving into it attempting to shoot wholes in it. When something has existed so long with so many critics and by no means has been in any way proven false quite to the contrary, most has been proven true. Sodom and gomora, the flood, the tunic of christ, the DNA test completed by Harvard, the prophecy of Daniel, the comparison of records, the fact that a pagan took such care to create the canon . I mean shit bug hey do you

      @timothyrogers8498@timothyrogers84985 жыл бұрын
  • Yeeeeeeessss

    @artemisk2722@artemisk2722 Жыл бұрын
  • Hi, does anyone knows the name of the actor who performed the character of Tom Skeptic?

    @mgj3428@mgj34283 жыл бұрын
    • That's Kaiser Johnson, who's done quite a bit of work in Hollywood. Here's his IMBD - www.imdb.com/name/nm3068383/

      @KevinOBrien101660@KevinOBrien1016603 жыл бұрын
  • caption please

    @user-wj3hv6wl2m@user-wj3hv6wl2m Жыл бұрын
  • Who is still reading literature just today 27th of December 2019....Socrates is agenuise

    @fousterokelloblaizy4031@fousterokelloblaizy40314 жыл бұрын
  • Spoiler alert: Socrates does not actually meet Jesus.

    @johnmilius3031@johnmilius30317 жыл бұрын
    • I don't think anyone has. Still I gave it a thumbs up for being interesting.

      @patrickneary8446@patrickneary84467 жыл бұрын
    • Ah, but he did. That is the point.

      @AjaxNixon@AjaxNixon6 жыл бұрын
    • He didn’t meet Jesus, unless of course.... that Catholic Church is right about the real presence in Eucharist. At the end of the performance is clearly understandable that socrates and Tom are on their way to meet Truth , where? Well , is at the same place socrates wants to meet Jesus

      @mgj3428@mgj34283 жыл бұрын
  • The Book is awesome

    @supersmart671@supersmart67120 күн бұрын
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