Should you be using IGUS polymer bushings?

2016 ж. 6 Мау.
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I feel like igus has been catching way too much flak lately - at their core, they are good bearings, you just have to use them properly.
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  • Hi this is an interesting topic. I run my own firm Nolin CAD and we have been designing industrial machines including CNC machines for 8 years and before that I was working as a machine designer for 15 years. What I found out is the tolerance requirements for IGUS bearings are lot higher than linear ball bearings (THK, Hiwin etc). And they seem to work well only when IGUS rods are used. With other shafts they either have more clearance and play than desirable or run too tight thus reducing life of the bearings which are not so robust. On the other hand with normal linear ball bushings (LM8 etc) variations in shaft diameter can be bit more acceptable. This is my observation and might not be necessarily true.

    @nolinchitnis@nolinchitnis6 жыл бұрын
  • I have had great success with PLA printed bushings (IGUS style). What I have found to work great is to take a linear rod - insert the PLA printed bushing (this might be a very tight fit). Then heat the one end of the rod - I use the stoves gas flame. Then move the bushing up and down the rod - the heat will melt the PLA and it will size itself perfectly to the rod. No slop, perfect fit, super smooth.

    @webza@webza8 жыл бұрын
    • Antonie Kriek You could order some dry line filament from IGUS and get the tolerances spot on for your rails. They were meant to send me a roll and I never pestered them, I will tomorrow tho! 😂 Tom had some infront of him, thought he would of mentioned it. Maybe I missed it!?

      @jaytaylor6857@jaytaylor68577 жыл бұрын
    • I have better luck chucking up a linear rod in my drill and spinning it at full speed in one spot on the rod to heat up from friction while holding onto the bearing. After a minute for igus bearings, less for PLA it will heat up, you will feel a slight bit more of a drag for a few seconds and then it will instantly become easy to move, then you can stop spinning and it will now slide up and down the rail with zero friction.

      @reforgedcriterion1471@reforgedcriterion14714 жыл бұрын
    • 4 years on, how's wear?

      @t1mmy13@t1mmy133 жыл бұрын
    • @@t1mmy13 no issues still running the exact same setup, same parts everything. Only parts I ever replace is PTFE tube and nozzle.

      @webza@webza3 жыл бұрын
    • @@webza do you need to print them as inserts or could you implement them directly in your carriage?

      @callardo1@callardo13 жыл бұрын
  • Thanks for the helpful overview, Tom. Your videos are great. One of the Igus savings is weight. The linear bearings in my carriage weighed 9.25 g each -v- the Igus ones at 2 g each. Replacing the steel rods (271 g) with carbon fiber (24 g) resulted in a tighter fit with the Igus bearing and a substantial reduction in mass (from 308 g to 34 g total). I also switched to a Bowden setup (carriage mass from 271 g to 77 g). I've been quite astonished with the improvement in print quality. The result is a quieter, smoother machine that runs at higher speeds without ringing. Thanks, too, for the tips on the SilentStepper drivers. The steppers are practically silent!

    @arminjahr7006@arminjahr70066 жыл бұрын
  • I can't believe you only have 38000 subscribers. The info in your videos goes all the way down to the reasons for your engineering decisions and choices of what parts to use, why, what bad things can happen, how that can affect you, etc. Thank you so much because I think you saved me a lot of money. After watching your video, I do not need or even want the caged ball bearings which will save me a ton of money where I am, and really, I think I want polymer bushings for the reduced noise, and increased speed. Thanks for your informative videos that saved me money, time, frustration, etc. I think you need to replace your youtube picture because it does not look like you, and for a second I thought this was a repost of one of your videos when I looked at the pic.

    @jeffbeck6501@jeffbeck65017 жыл бұрын
    • Well i've watched at least 50 of his videos but never subscribed. Subscribed now.

      @alumunum@alumunum7 жыл бұрын
    • None of these tech channels have very many subscribers. Its too much of a niche market. Don't forget that the masses are also mostly dumb folk and can't understand this stuff anyway let alone have an interest in it. They prefer to be entertained by mindless prank, gaming, beauty, and kids toys unboxing channels.

      @OU81TWO@OU81TWO7 жыл бұрын
    • 233k subs now. Looks like the printing community has caught on. Not as charming as Makers Muse, nor as fun and varied as Rclifeon but this channel is by far the best source of all the information I need, and information I didn't know I needed.

      @reforgedcriterion1471@reforgedcriterion14714 жыл бұрын
  • EXACTLY what I needed to hear this week! The joys of routine maintenance...

    @CorollaGTSSRX@CorollaGTSSRX8 жыл бұрын
  • Can't wait for mine to ship! thanks for all the videos!

    @WildRoseBuilds@WildRoseBuilds6 жыл бұрын
  • After 4 years of use on my taz 5 the igus bearings had a significant amount of slop especially in the x and y axis. Replaced them with the high precision (grey colored) version RJ4JP with very good results in reducing print artifacts (compared to old ones with slop)

    @jamesb4242@jamesb42424 жыл бұрын
  • After watching your video I promptly went the the IGUS web site and bought four of the 10mm ID aluminum cased RJUM bearings (RJUM-01-10). They arrived today and I must say that they are excellent. The steel ball linear bearings that I was using have a subtle vibration to them as they slide across the steel rod, whereas these polymer bearings are nice and smooth. I am extremely pleased with these polymer bearings and I want to say thank you for bringing them to my attention.

    @anekroth@anekroth3 жыл бұрын
  • Great video, was very interesting learning more about IGUS.

    @MrCrankyface@MrCrankyface8 жыл бұрын
  • I split the IGUS bearings along one of the slots with a hacksaw and then it's much easier to set a slight preload on them even with clip-in housings such as on the Replicator clones, work just the same as any other split bushing/bearing then.

    @Rippthrough@Rippthrough7 жыл бұрын
  • My printer came with bearings that seemed to have worn very quickly (they were probably never lubed), replaced them with drylin and it's like a whole new printer. Smoother, quieter, less vibration. The only pain was cutting them to size.

    @dickeyseamus@dickeyseamus6 жыл бұрын
  • Glad you mention noise! ... would be my main reason for an upgrade... great vid BTW.

    @f.d.6667@f.d.66674 жыл бұрын
  • Great video Tom! I opted for the IGUS AVM-08 aluminum (anodized) shafts on all my MK3's axis'. On the Z axis, I installed four RJ4JP-01-08 (15mm) polymer bushings, and six RJZM-01-08 (16mm) on both the X and Y axis (with revised Y bearing holders and X carriage). Yes, some would say that the Z axis doesn't see much action and do not require such an upgrade (less violent travel), but I I'm not one to take shortcuts and the extra $30 on the AVM shafts with polymer bearings gives me peace of mind). My previously MK2s had the factory shafts/LM8UU bearings and after 200 (+-) prints, the X and Y axis shafts were scored (Prusa did indeed replace them free under warranty, BTW). Yes; I had taken the time and great effort to ensure that Y axis shafts ran parallel (within 0.001"), but the shafts took a beating, regardless.

    @Mr.Titanium1911@Mr.Titanium19115 жыл бұрын
  • The reason I like your videos: you sound like an engineer.

    @Andrewatnanz@Andrewatnanz6 жыл бұрын
  • Good video Tom. I have been using IGUS W and T for a long time at work. It is good stuff. But, I am now using Hepco. Just food for though. They are like the V rollers on say a CR-10. Difference is they are all metal and I think they are better ( certain applications ) than Hiwin.

    @jaytaylor6857@jaytaylor68577 жыл бұрын
  • Tom, Deine Videos sind einfach verdammt gut. Danke.

    @SebastianHehn@SebastianHehn8 жыл бұрын
  • 2:47 the rod just disappeared 😂😂 Great video by the way 👍🏾👏🏾👏🏾

    @drhafez0@drhafez04 жыл бұрын
  • Igus offers a variety of bushing materials optmized for different shaft surfaces. When you put two or more on the same rail, it may even matter where the injection point from their production process is - if you're really going for longevity. Other things to consider: even though they're made to run dry, they can also be lubricated, decreasing their wear/km and surprisingly their play may be intentional to cover the advertised operating temperature range ( a solid rod may just expand outward, a zylindrical ring may do so too but will exhibit a certain wall thickness above which the ID will shrink as it heats up, seizing on the shaft).

    @hardwareful@hardwareful7 жыл бұрын
  • Thanks Tom! Brilliant presentation as always. You answered a lot of my questions as I am searching for a replacement for my sloppy Prusa bearings. Since the IGUS ones need to be preloaded in a metal cylinder, I am guessing they would be too sloppy as a direct LM8UU replacement - a la zip ties. Looks like it means a complete redesign/rebuild for my i3 using HiWin or BWC DualVee type bearings. (or Open rail/Open Beam...a cheaper alternative but less robust than BWC)

    @hotburnymustard@hotburnymustard7 жыл бұрын
  • Very informative, thanks Thomas.

    @larrymortimer4833@larrymortimer48337 жыл бұрын
  • Thanks, that is very interesting. I am just getting into 3-d printers, but I have about 30 years experience with high end xyz tables on semiconductor tools. This gives me a better look at things. In the semiconductor world, money is not an issue.

    @billjames1953@billjames19536 жыл бұрын
  • "loose like sleeve of wizard" classic

    @chrismofer@chrismofer5 жыл бұрын
  • I am planing to replace the bearings on a mk2. I got myself some RJ4JP and some RJZM. Unfortunately the RJZM have quite a bit more slop than expected - despite the aluminium casing. Checking with igus that's expected behaviour though. In your video it sounds differently but the RJ4JP have a tighter tolerance than the RJZM. The rep from igus said that the RJ4JP would probably be a better choice for a 3D printer and a press fit is not required. I am still going back on worth whether I should use the igus aluminium rods or keep the steel rods.

    @tcurdt@tcurdt7 жыл бұрын
  • I needed up getting the bushing with the metal housing for a massive printer that I'm building, not because they were our first choice, which they would be after using them, but because we could only get them in the time frame we had, they are amazing, very expensive but worth it if you really need it

    @kylefutet@kylefutet7 жыл бұрын
  • Nice videos, I enjoy listening to someone with an engineering background talking about 3D printing. I think if you present or draw a table summarizing the advantages and disadvantages of the different things you are reviewing at the end of the video it would clarify things and be really cool.

    @Hein223@Hein2238 жыл бұрын
  • 2:43 lol that bearing and rod had a mind of its own. :) great vid

    @Panoreth3DPrinting@Panoreth3DPrinting8 жыл бұрын
  • I will try the "non-aluminium covered" polymer bearings on the Prusa i3 MK2. Even if there is some play, it cannot be much worse then the bad ball bearings coming with the MK2. I had solely nylon wheel based linear systems before and I am shocked of the noise the ball bearings on the MK2 produce. So I hope the printer gets quieter. Currently the bed is not only sitting loose on the shafts with the LM8UUs, but it is also incredibly loud. Edit: Okay, I followed Thomas' advice and ordered the RJUM-01 aluminium enclosed bushings... They are really much more expensive, but maybe it is better to pay more onetime, than paying less multiple times... I will do a comparison video of the impact of the bushings on the Prusa i3 MK2 as soon as I have them mounted. Next week I should have a second MK2 available, so I can do a simultaneous side by side comparison.

    @martinmajewski@martinmajewski7 жыл бұрын
    • So I'm curious Martin, What has your experience been with the RJUM-01 aluminium enclosed bushings? Actually the 8mm enclosed bearing are the RJZM-01-08s. Nonetheless, I don't see a followup from you and would like to know what you're experience has been.

      @Shadowcruise99@Shadowcruise997 жыл бұрын
    • Yeah, the "follow up" takes some time, as I am currently on the finish line of my master thesis and therefore heavily occupied. However, I have released some comments on this topic on my Thingiverse project page (www.thingiverse.com/thing:1848700 and www.thingiverse.com/thing:1837936). Long story short: I like the aluminum enclosed RJZM-01-08 bearings because they do not bend from the zip ties or an outer force as easily as the RJ4JP-01-08. This is particularly the case for the X carriage, where a tighter fit of the ties prevents an easy ride of the extruder. However, the RJ4JP-01-08 are more affordable, have the same diameter as the lm8uu (can be used for the extruder without any modification), and with a little bit extra sensitivity during the mounting process, they do their job perfectly.

      @martinmajewski@martinmajewski7 жыл бұрын
  • Wait did he just say "Loose like sleeve of wizard?" Subbed lolz

    @BallisticTech@BallisticTech7 жыл бұрын
  • Tom. Polymer grease such as PTFE grease made specifically for these, tradename Thomson "linear lube". Been using it on cnc machines for years and doesn't stain polymer parts yellow and brown like lithium.

    @neuxstone@neuxstone5 жыл бұрын
  • Interesting topic and explanation. The Taz5 seems to use several of IGUS or IGUS like bearings. For those interested, IGUS has a KZhead channel.

    @kentvandervelden@kentvandervelden8 жыл бұрын
  • Only had bad experiences with Igus stuff. Got some RJMP bushing that were out of spec. They say they need to be pressed into an H7 hole but mine were smaller than that to start with and had far too much play. When in spec 0.05mm is too much anyway for a 3D printer. Some people print with layers heights less than that. The metal cased ones are 1mm bigger than LMxUU, so not a direct replacement. The aluminium shafts they supply come bent. All their stuff is very expensive as well.

    @nophead@nophead7 жыл бұрын
    • nophead And what do you think about printed bushings?

      @bernardo5758@bernardo57586 жыл бұрын
  • I want to see the webshop with prices not "price upon request!" I hate the idea of "price upon request". I don't know if they are trying to charge me extra or is it just regular price. maybe they will not like my name and charge extra 100%. who knows.

    @MehmetSelmanTamer@MehmetSelmanTamer5 жыл бұрын
    • As far as I can tell they only do that for low volume items, but I agree that they should still list the prices for them.

      @namAehT@namAehT5 жыл бұрын
    • Don't know if it's changed but igus don't have a minimum quantity in the UK and they show prices right on their site

      @Dezdogohund@Dezdogohund5 жыл бұрын
    • It's a rare asshole who would go that far as to charge extra. But it doesn't hurt to send in a request and find out. I however am not thrilled to give every company I want to price out an item for my email so they can just spam me forever. I do have a junk mail email I use for things like that however.

      @reforgedcriterion1471@reforgedcriterion14714 жыл бұрын
    • I completely agree! It's such a hassle and waste of time to have to find out when they could just simply list it on their damn website. I swear these companies could be selling A LOT more and be making more if they would themselves easily accessible to normal everyday people. Oh yeah and don't get me started on the fill out form with required feilds like "business id number" "company name" blah blah...Its like HELLO! YOU DO WANT TO MAKE MONEY RIGHHHT?!? SO SELL TO ME!!!

      @Brute4rce1111@Brute4rce11114 жыл бұрын
    • Igus have changed that now, however this is because companies like that generally aren't interested in selling odd ones and twos to individuals - try SKF, INA, or Trelleborg and you'll find much the same thing. Their business model is selling hundreds or thousands of them to retailers or OEMs.

      @Chlorate299@Chlorate2994 жыл бұрын
  • I switched to the RJ4JP 01-08 on my Mendel90 without any modification to the parts. The bushings are just ziptied in place. I didn't notice any quality change. If you do change to polymer bushings to have a silent printer, you also have to replace the stepper motor drivers. I switched to silent step sticks. Now the fans are the loudest part on my printer.

    @Bluemchenwiese1@Bluemchenwiese18 жыл бұрын
  • When I was in highschool robotics, IGUS would sponsor the basic kit with aluminum rails and polymer sliders. I'm rebuilding my solidoodle press with them and they are a very nice option for someone with basic tools.

    @1234garbageman@1234garbageman8 жыл бұрын
  • Hi Tom, another informative video as always, thanks for sharing. Do you know if the igus polymer bushes would be a drop-in replacement for the aluminium LM8UU bearing block bearings? Thanks.

    @m0gga@m0gga2 жыл бұрын
  • can you add a video on linear slides for a different type of motion explaining how that is setup and how that works? like extruded beams?

    @techdiyer5290@techdiyer52904 жыл бұрын
  • Hi Tom, What would be the better between self lubricating bushings and LM8UU bearings? Could you do a video on this maybe?

    @jeandrecoetzer9062@jeandrecoetzer90628 жыл бұрын
  • Hi Tom Outstanding job as usual. I am building an FT5 now and have upgraded to aluminum and fiberglass parts. I am looking to upgrade the z axis liner nuts for driving the bed. I came across these and was skeptical. Would you recommend them as an upgrade to the stock brass screw setup? I believe they were 16 mm vs the stock 8mm but should not be a problem right? Since i am still fabricating parts, i have not drilled those yet and am very interested in what you have to say on the topic. Very curious about thread pitch impacting quality of movement. My thought is higher TPI= smoother movement but not sure that is accurate once a stepper motor is added to the mix. would fine threading be better?

    @paulstrollo3187@paulstrollo31877 жыл бұрын
  • 6:57 R.I.P smooth rod

    @Cannedraviolicanmakegoodfarts@Cannedraviolicanmakegoodfarts7 жыл бұрын
  • I was on the Hanover Messe in 2015. There Igus gave me some (all in total 12 and a few more) of these for my printer. Until then I had not fully build mine. Now for more then one year My printer is running fine. If you using steel rods I recommend oiling them. They say you don't need it and you shouldn't but for me it runs better and I have no problem with rusting rods. They work pretty fine. I'm building a new 3d printer from scratch and I'll use Igus Drylin with the aluminium case. I'm pretty curious which improvement these will have on my printing quality.

    @steiller@steiller8 жыл бұрын
  • I am using both of them for industrial machines. I love both of them. The ball bearing is noising and expensive but there is less play. I am not using them on chrome plated rod has there are a lot of pressure between the balls and the rods (however it should be okay for a 3d printer). I am using tempered steel rod. These rods are harder and sligthly larger diameter but the price is very high...Moreover there are two type of ball bearing, medium play and low play For igus bearing, as you told you need to put it in a H7 housing in order to get the correct play even with that there is still more play than de ball bearing. I do not use the same bearing on your video, I am using the plain bearing. Yours look very interesting more my use. I do believe if someone can manufacture a simple aluminum tube for installing these plain berings, we should have a really nice option. These plain bearing are less than 1$ and the outside diameter is small that we can the same diameter with the aluminium tube as the ball bearing. A guy from igus will visit me next week.... if you have questions I can ask him directly. Note that I do not own a 3d printer I do not know the force in the belt neither the precision on the machine (For me the precision on thoses printers seems very poor I do not know yet why there is two lead screws for the z axis... Everything should block except if you have a ton of play everywhere)

    @Cid156@Cid1567 жыл бұрын
  • Hey Tom first of all great video, second you briefly mentioned mgn rails and almost never have mentioned v-slot motion. Can you please make a video explaining the strengths and weaknesses of v-slot and also whether or not mgn rails from AliExpress are any good. Thanks in advance.

    @MosheKashani@MosheKashani7 жыл бұрын
  • You mentioned using the aluminum rails for an h-bot style printer. Igus bushings work well for normal cartesian printers, but once you add any sort of torque perpendicular to the axis, like you get with the Y axis of an h-bot or even a core xy, those polymer bushings lock onto the rail. Even after switching to the aluminum caged Igus bushings and a core-xy setup (to mitigate the racking forces), those bushings will still lock onto the rail with any type of perpendicular force. It's really only a problem with the y axis of an H-bot or core xy, because thats where you get the largest racking forces on the gantry. I have only used them with the standard chrome plated rods, but maybe it's not as bad with the aluminum rods you mentioned.

    @haqnmaq@haqnmaq8 жыл бұрын
    • Also if the mounts you are using for the igus bushings don't line up perfectly, then they will create too much friction and essentially lock onto the rails. Self aligning bushings will help that, but something to keep in mind when you are designing a mount for the igus bushings.

      @haqnmaq@haqnmaq8 жыл бұрын
    • I have been using the igus bushings on my corexy printer for over a year and have never had any problems like that. They work great.

      @ryankrammes8245@ryankrammes82458 жыл бұрын
  • I'm glad I came here before I installed my drylin bearings on my chrome rods. I will be ordering the aluminum rods for the bearings.

    @JayStein777@JayStein7776 жыл бұрын
    • How did it work out for you? Did these bearings run better on alurods?

      @SianaGearz@SianaGearz3 жыл бұрын
    • @@SianaGearz They run on Aluminum rods with a special coating from IGUS. You can contact them and they will cut, tap, and dye them for you. I haven't used the rods because I sold the printer I planned to use them on.

      @JayStein777@JayStein7773 жыл бұрын
  • I meanwhile changed all linear bearings into polymer bushings (8 pieces alltogether) on my witbox 2. Needless to say it became much quieter and higher speeds are now possible without any "ugly" sounds - especially during the fast moving between the actual printing process.

    @Lobesanft@Lobesanft7 жыл бұрын
  • the video got me thinking, was prepared to use an igus wsx-10-40 over some 1700 mm rail length, end to end. out of that, useful trip would be around 1400 mm, centered to the rail. i gave it a quick thought about friction, i read how polymer rails work, but didn't have the luxury of having one to play with. many thanks to tom for the video, might have to rethink my design.

    @valcocora5689@valcocora56897 жыл бұрын
  • I gave the RJ4JP-01 a try on my printer. Problem is, as you pointed out, they're not encased in metal. Even though they DO work well, they tend to slip a bit because of their material. So, I switched back to the stock LM8UU. Igus encased series seem much better and as a true drop-in replacement for LM8UU in this respect, like RJZM-01 or RJZM-02. I ordered 5 pieces of the latter not that long ago, should be fine.

    @Lidocain777@Lidocain7774 жыл бұрын
  • I tossed some drylins on my wanhao duplicator. Havent tested them yet because my hotend broke, and i cant in good faith recommend taking apart a wanhao, but just installing the bearings i could already tell that theyre an improvement, especially considering that all the balls fell out of one of my lm8uus when i took apart my machine

    @Bostonbowser@Bostonbowser6 жыл бұрын
    • I have had them on my Wanhao i3 plus for over 2 years now without any problem

      @bernielobb719@bernielobb7195 жыл бұрын
  • Very informative video. Danke👍🏻

    @Mr.Titanium1911@Mr.Titanium19117 жыл бұрын
  • Thanks for the link to the discussed this bushings (?), made it a lot easier to price upgrades. Though at $10 per replacement, I think I will stick with the Chinese lm8uu's.

    @john-paulhopman318@john-paulhopman3188 жыл бұрын
  • Thanks, I didn't know about the aluminium enclosed ones...

    @rklauco@rklauco8 жыл бұрын
  • Did you install them and test them or only comment on the known pros and cons of the Igus polymer bushings? Would be great to see a head to head between different drop in LM8UU options. Cheap ball bearings, brand name ball bearings, Igus and printed bushings, each printing the same model on the same printer. Comparing noise, play and final printing quality at a few different speeds. This would be very interesting!

    @CanonFirefly@CanonFirefly8 жыл бұрын
  • I have used these on some small task dedicated CNC machines that used to cut trim light vacuum formed micro helicopters canopies with a Dremel tool. They are great for speed and service free in a light load machine. I would not recommend these for CNC machines that have to take heavy cuts or have tools that are heavy. They would make a nice option for 3D printers that are also light.

    @MarioIArguello@MarioIArguello Жыл бұрын
  • "lose like sleeve of wizard" amazing :)

    @trif55@trif555 жыл бұрын
  • Nice Job, Tom....Thumbs Up!

    @electricroundup8300@electricroundup83008 жыл бұрын
  • Unfortunately those aluminum cased ones are 16 mm outer diameter which is larger than the standard LM8UU outer diameter of 15 mm so it's not necessarily a drop in replacement. Tom, would you be able to review IGUS's RJ4JP bearings? The gray ones? Their website states that they are used for 3D printers, have "japanese dimensions".

    @ryangarrison7088@ryangarrison70887 жыл бұрын
    • RJZM-02-08 are the same size as the lm8uu and are cased.

      @skumavideo@skumavideo6 жыл бұрын
  • As visible on your desk you also got some trapezodial spindles with IGUS bushings, did you test them and would you recommend them in terms of precision, required maintainance, ease of use, xpectalbe service life and cost when compared to the average 3d printer belt system, lead screws and ball screws.

    @mariusb6035@mariusb60358 жыл бұрын
  • Just helped a friend remove these. They had a weird issue where they would print the first cm fine and then it would start to have a Y axis tilt that was nearly 45 deg. Not sure why but putting the stock bearings back in was a instant fix. Tested over several prints and all had same issue. Same prints were flawless with return to the stock ball bearings.

    @shadowgolem9158@shadowgolem91586 жыл бұрын
  • Nice hoodie, looks cozy, where can i get one like that for the fall?

    @macelius@macelius7 жыл бұрын
  • I am building 3Dprinter with linear rods and polymer Igus bushings provided by Igus :) I am participating in Y.E.S program. They are great bearings since lm8uu grinded my rods badly, and igus are smooth as butter

    @Kondzio29@Kondzio298 жыл бұрын
  • would you consider doing a live stream build of youtube tech2c's hypercube? and a follow-up review?

    @FLyyyT_@FLyyyT_7 жыл бұрын
  • Have you tried printing tighter tolerance bushing from IGUS filament for replacing "loose mounted" LMU88?

    @AndreQuirion@AndreQuirion8 жыл бұрын
  • Can you do a tutorial on how to setup dual z drivers by switching out the second extruder slot? I think my 8825 isn't good enough to drive two of my z axis nema17 motors. They're rated at 2 amps per phase.

    @Jonnay0808@Jonnay08088 жыл бұрын
  • 2:45 little bit of a distraction? :) LOL!!! How did that magically get back where it was suppose to be?!? :)

    @JATMN@JATMN8 жыл бұрын
  • Love them!

    @davegaylord5919@davegaylord59198 жыл бұрын
  • I'm using them in the carriage I am using in my davinci 3d printer for e3d v6 replacement you cant use lmu8 since the shaft isn't hardened. and I have to say I love them in this application they are quieter then the bronze bushings and its more accurate.

    @markburton5292@markburton52928 жыл бұрын
  • I replaced my bearings from my ANET A8 by Drylin bushings and the noise was greatly reduced and the play was gone! I HATE the bearings, never coming back!

    @cmtetaboaco@cmtetaboaco5 жыл бұрын
  • how would you upgrade the lm bearings on a wanhoa, do you get better version of lmu bearings that whats in the machine

    @633r@633r7 жыл бұрын
  • Hi! You mentioned the impossiblity of archiving a H7 hole in the home shop. That is definately not true. Any good sorted hardware/tool shop has a tool called "reamer" in his stock (Reibahle auf Deutsch). You can purchase a H7 reamer for the size of bushing that you want to use und then pre drill a slightly smaller hole. After that you ream the pre drilled hole with the reamer. The result is a H7 tolerated hole with decent surface quality. Check it out.. Its not very hard to do, if you have drill press (which is probably the most common tool).. There are also hand reamers, in case you dont have a good drill press..

    @unrealillusion87@unrealillusion877 жыл бұрын
  • Thomas I need your help I did I the Ramps conversion on my da Vinci 1.0 and the y axis is only moving in one direction what do you think is causing that to happen?

    @colenagao2493@colenagao24938 жыл бұрын
  • where do you get aluminium linear rod from ?

    @Ultrasonictwo@Ultrasonictwo6 жыл бұрын
  • I'm printing the same style linear bearings from PLA with success. They're working great with aluminium or carbon tubes. The carbon ones are expensive, though... :)

    @magdanoz88@magdanoz887 жыл бұрын
  • Hi Tom. Thanks for the video :) You often mention "brand name" lm8uu bearings. What are some good brands you trust?

    @GameofKnowing@GameofKnowing8 жыл бұрын
    • Misumi !

      @per-5786@per-57867 жыл бұрын
    • which model number? they have quite a complicated array of options....

      @ryangarrison7088@ryangarrison70887 жыл бұрын
  • Tom, could you compare igus bearings with a printed POM bearings on a lubricated shaft? Is there any significant difference?

    @enf644@enf6448 жыл бұрын
    • I'd love to know as well. The ability to 3D print linear bearings without vitamins would be really cool (more self replication). PS: Or even a printed POM slider on a standard aluminium extrusion. There was a 3D printer kickstarter where someone spend a lot of time getting the slider right with preload etc.

      @dejayrezme8617@dejayrezme86178 жыл бұрын
    • +Thomas Sanladerer hey I have 800 us dollars and I am deciding whether I should get a robo 3d r1 plus or get a wombot exilis xl which do you think I should get?

      @colenagao2493@colenagao24938 жыл бұрын
  • Open build has interesting aluminium extrusions for linear guidance

    @ZopteY@ZopteY8 жыл бұрын
  • Great info

    @MicheleHjorleifsson@MicheleHjorleifsson6 жыл бұрын
  • I use igus rjm bushing and finally change to lm10, because I have lots of hysteresis, even using oil in the rods. Its quieter but as you said it work better with aluminum machine pieces and with preload, but igus bussings with printed pieces for me its a bad solution

    @Q3Coricoco@Q3Coricoco8 жыл бұрын
    • THIS! This is so important to say. In printed parts it's going to get very tricky!

      @ReneJurack@ReneJurack8 жыл бұрын
    • I have the same problem. My igus bushings will not fit into my printed parts because the printed parts (ABS) are very badly warped. I can push them in, but they will completely stick.

      @schnabuliertier@schnabuliertier8 жыл бұрын
  • brass bushings is perfect ofr 3printer, they are pretty cheap, and no need for additional accesories or rods, it takes some quality in rod aligning as mentioned, but after all very quiet and stable, and in loads as in 3d printer they lives forever

    @kubamiszczz@kubamiszczz11 ай бұрын
  • I want to replace the bushings in my Prusa i3 MK2 to these polymer ones mainly because of the noise.. do you think I should spend extra for the aluminum ones?

    @gabesegura9509@gabesegura95097 жыл бұрын
  • Hi Thomas! Would you mind sharing where you find the 40 kg force press fit specification? Can't seem to find any specs on it!

    @Rubdos@Rubdos6 жыл бұрын
  • Hey Tom, do you know if RJZM-01-08 would fit I3 Prusa MK2 X and Y axis attached witch zip ties?

    @MrOzyreusz@MrOzyreusz7 жыл бұрын
  • So why not chromed shafts? Did I miss something? mine run really heavy, i have the yellow-ish ones

    @TheDvdspeler@TheDvdspeler5 жыл бұрын
  • Nice and very informative. @Tom: Do you recommend to use Igus bearings on Prusa i3 MK2S? Any experience in regard to reduced noise and reliability?

    @android4cg@android4cg7 жыл бұрын
    • +All About 3D Blog I would stick to the stock bearings personally. Prusa uses decent bearings, which last long and create very little noise relative to the rest of the machine.

      @MadeWithLayers@MadeWithLayers7 жыл бұрын
    • You must have a different machine to the majority of the people in the prusa i3 group, it's littered with people mentioning how noisy it is :)

      @skumavideo@skumavideo6 жыл бұрын
    • Mine is horribly noisy. I'm used to using lathes and mills and this thing sounds like a oat grinder.

      @6milesup@6milesup6 жыл бұрын
  • could you post a link for the coated rods? I can't locate them

    @kaanan222@kaanan2228 жыл бұрын
  • Hey Tom, would you recommend using aluminum extrusions (like openbuild v-slot) with delrin wheels as a substitute for linear rod bearings? How do they compare?

    @NilsWerner@NilsWerner7 жыл бұрын
    • Thomas Sanladerer what kind of precision can I expect from all open build extrusions and wheels? And what other parts are major considerations for precision in building a custom Cartesian. Also thanks do much for all your work! You have amazing production values

      @NilsWerner@NilsWerner7 жыл бұрын
    • Thomas Sanladerer should I use mgn12h+rail from aliexpress (dont know if real or not) or lm8uu+smoothrod or delrin wheel + openbuilds v slot for 400mm long in x axis and 300mm for y axis? thanks

      @fandihayu@fandihayu7 жыл бұрын
    • Have a look at D bot on thingiverse, lots of poeple have had success with this build

      @mattyg19821@mattyg198217 жыл бұрын
  • I had to replace the linear bearings on my 3D printer, and found that they were full of rust in less than 6 months. Keeping in mind that high humidity is 20% where I live. Those caged linear bearings are a real pain.

    @Paul-gz5dp@Paul-gz5dp5 жыл бұрын
  • Hi great video I found a couple 11mm=7/16in diameter linear shaft, can't find bearings that size, can anyone help me?

    @marhblue@marhblue7 жыл бұрын
  • Hi Tom, I hope you get this... I have a slight problem with my new DryLin bearings. I just rebuilt and installed them on the X-axis of my ROBO R1+ and one side slides easily while the other side has friction. Both 8mm smooth rods were completely degreased and appear to be true. Would I be correct to assume that over time they will “give” a little and also move freely?

    @RichLeeFL@RichLeeFL6 жыл бұрын
  • Can't you just 3D print a "clamp" casing for the igus bushings to compress them correctly with a screw? Like the E3D V6 heatbreak does for the heat cartridge? Did I miss it or what is actually an achievable way to use igus for DIY?

    @dejayrezme8617@dejayrezme86178 жыл бұрын
  • Rexroth...Ina..SKF.. What we mostly use for high precision CNC machines, expensive but top notch material.

    @Nuno.A@Nuno.A6 жыл бұрын
  • Have you tested the IGUS filament?

    @larsstolz7632@larsstolz76327 жыл бұрын
  • Thomas, I'm still staying tuned for the comment about combining IGUS with a chromed rod. Where can I find the info? It's not in the video :)

    @MarinusMakesStuff@MarinusMakesStuff5 жыл бұрын
    • I understand they recommend some surface texture on the rod for the IGUS polymer to mate with. I'm not sure it matters much unless the bearing is at a high rpm. I'd like to hear more from Tom about the IGUS 3D filament available.

      @dougwilson1656@dougwilson16564 жыл бұрын
  • I would like to add one possible problem with the IGUS bearings. I assume you shouldn't use these bearings near a heat source like the printer head. I think bearings would lock up because of the thermal expansion. Although they will grind themselves free if you use them anyway.

    @FrankyieFrank@FrankyieFrank7 жыл бұрын
  • I have some of thses and the AL coated rods. I'm having ALOT of chipping on the coating???? and chance your samle rods are also chipping. are are mine fulty ???? good overview! ~Russ

    @RWGresearch@RWGresearch8 жыл бұрын
    • there shouldnt be any chipping as they are anodized.

      @pen25@pen258 жыл бұрын
    • Might have been exposed to a chemical that introduced another metal oxide into the coating.

      @smokeydops@smokeydops8 жыл бұрын
    • Good example why you should never ever use aluminium in that application. That will happen eventually. Even faster if quality is "pos" as they generally are. Always use hardened steel or at least stainless steel. I work with bigger machines and aluminium is NEVER used on rails.

      @jothain@jothain6 жыл бұрын
  • Hi, you did not address the stick slip effect of the IGUS-Bearings. Some users tell in different forums, that with this effect the printer vibrates more or less at the points of directional change. Do you experience the same?

    @DocMicha@DocMicha7 жыл бұрын
  • +Thomas Sanladerer Where can you obtain a bore for the IGUS LM8UU?

    @mark12111994@mark121119947 жыл бұрын
  • How do I fix the problem of the bushings binding as soon as I level the bed of my Anet A8+ (Prusa clone) printer? Thanks

    @AshleyWragg@AshleyWragg2 жыл бұрын
  • 2:26 "Loose like sleeve of wizard" lmfao

    @lucassalas1572@lucassalas15722 жыл бұрын
  • Which one would you recommend for a Prusa i3 MK3S?

    @IvanCarosati@IvanCarosati5 жыл бұрын
  • Hi Tom, my experience with igus bushings: i've machined several different types during an internship :P Great video (as always). As you mention and show the Hiwin MGN rails: it'd be great to see a comparison between the real deal and the stuff that you can buy at alibaba (and maybe throw in some igus). I know that there's a moral aspect to this topic, but i've heard the argument that whilst being of lower precicion, the knockoff types would still hold up to the demands of a 3d printing application. And they can obniously be had at a fraction of the price. Do you have any experience with those? Schöne Grüße, Niklas

    @NEutebach@NEutebach8 жыл бұрын
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