How to replace a 2013 Ford Explorer Electric Rack & Pinion
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Just a quick run through of replacing a 2013 Ford Explorer Electric Rack and Pinion. It's probably the same for different years with same body style.
Just a quick run through of replacing a 2013 Ford Explorer Electric Rack and Pinion. It's probably the same for different years with same body style.
Very useful, thanks for sharing! We had the same problem with a 2015 focus.
Very helpful tips. Took me 2-1/2hrs from start to finish. Thanks.
Roger Villarreal Did you have to remove the exhaust pipe completely from the car or just loosen the bolts and detaching it, if you don’t mind me asking?
@@joonajks I removed the exhaust from the manifold to the middle of the truck completely. Just gave me more space making it easier to work.
@@rogervillarreal2497 thank you very much!
Didn't you ha e to reprogram the steering module?
Very well laid out 👍
Thanks for this, just swapped mine on a 2015 explorer. Seems as long as you don’t have parking assist it’s a pretty straightforward swap. One thing to note, I was able to change mine without removing the exhaust. I disconnected the two front ports and there was adequate flex in that slinky looking part (cat conv?) to gently lay down the front and provide room enough to get everything out. YMMV
Good to hear this. That's y I made the video to help others out. That's good to know.
You made a nice video to help us out for 2019 :-)
Thank you. Makes it easier for people to fix there cars.
Good info. I have a 2013 F-150 with eletric power steering. It runs well, aside from it feeling like it needs a hub replaced all is well. I watched this to see if it's something I might want to try at home if the pickup ever needs it. I know my install will be a little different than yours, but now I have an idea what I'll need to do. I think the main differences are location of the skid plate and exhaust.
Ya im sure it is a little different. How you won't have to though.
Thank you! I'll be doing mine soon and this is going to be useful
No problem
Thanks for the sharing, that is very useful, and I have my car Fusion 2012 that has tuck noises from RHS while crossing rough roads, I checked and removed the boot of the tie rod and found metal chips, what do you think about this chips and how to solve, Thanks in advance
I need to do catalytic converters, and maybe a power steering rack, I have had a strut mount binding so I'm gunna do the struts first to see if it helps. The rear cat is gunna be lots of fun
Less than a year after this video was posted, Ford recalled 1.2 MILLION Explorers for failing electronic rack and pinion assemblies at a staggering expense of $180 MILLION dollars. Unbelievable crap being put on the streets these days.
Wow they need to refund the money that people spent on this crap
Extended warrenty actually. Ours went out not long ago, we brought it into ford after searching online and discovering the recall. They said we'll fix it for you for free(sweet). Next day get a call and they tell us its actually and extended warrenty for 100,000 miles and we were at 140,000 so now i had to buy a 1000 dollar part that ill be putting in this weekend
@@mattyates9305 I have a 2015 and it needs the rack replaced I got one for $1100 canadian and will see if it works this week how did your go did it work
I've had 3 put on, so far. The third one cost me $1200 part and labor.
@@alexpea4379 how did you programmed it? It’s very valuable information that will help me to save a lot of money ! If anyone knows please help me !
Thanks for this video!
Update, the process replacing my electric rack a success!!! Junkyard rack and opinion with 43000 miles cost $100.00 Ford reprogramming cost $125.00 Ford wheel alignment cost $ 90.00 Thanks for everything!
Good to hear. No problem.
What reprogramming is required?
Aleksey Mazurenko after reinstalling most use or new ford electric rack requires reprogramming so you can have power steering!
Joon kinloch how did u reprogram it
2 questions how much for the rack and pinion part ??? And how much with the labor included???
Thx for the video ..it will help give us some idea
Buenas amigo saludos de casualidad no tienes el programa para desbloquear los módulos que yo trabajo en Venezuela con esas camionetas y no tengo como desbloquear
One question: I accidentally polished a small segment of the anti-rust zinc coated surface of my steering rack: How do I recover the area I accidentally polished?
Nice work.... Do you need to reprogram the software of the steering or anything else?
Did you program the electric steering system?
Wondering this as well
Yes, you need to take it to the dealer to reprogram the steering otherwise I replaced the electronic board with my old one to avoid this step Where is my case was mechanical issue
Does anyone know if the rack has to be completely removed in order to change the four bushings (two upper and two lower) on the rack? Or can it be done quasi in place?
How much it will cost to replace rack and pinion?
Did you had to take it to the Ford place to get it computerized
😀😀😀 you don t have to remove the exhausts part,don t have to remove ball stud!!..I did mine yesterday. 2 stands under the frame , tires off, sway bar links off both sides . Loose 2 bolts that put together the front chassis and the rest of the frame (24 mm wrench).have a bottle Jack to support the the front frame juste in case. Whith one hand rotate the steering rack 90 degre Clockwise then Pull it out smoothly. This is done the passenger side.😉😉😉😉😉 set!!!!
That's good to hear. If there's an easier way then go for it.
Any program required?
About how long from start to finish did it take to replace. Great video too. I am replacing mine today with a salvage part
Maybe 1hr to 2hrs. Thanks
shortyboy1986 thank you.
Scott Pence How has the Salvage electronica power steering rack worked out for you? Anything I should be looking for such as miles when purchasing to use racks?
@@scottpence6664 How did the salvage part end up working for you?
Hey I recently replaced the steering rack on my 2013 explorer. Just like you said it was fine for alittle while then the power steering rack went out. Is this the same problem you had, I recall you saying it was fine after the install but eventually had to be programmed? How did you know it had to be programmed? What notifications did the vehicle give?
Dealer said that. It had to get replaced & few times because it kept going bad
@@shortyboy1986 How about the program? Is it required after replacement?
@@sadiqselman yes we had to
Did you take the explorer to the dealership for programming the part after the installation?
Eventually we did
@@shortyboy1986 how much was that ?
Dunno
Hello I have a 2011 Ford Explorer, was there any difference between the new one and the old one, because I can see in the video that in the old one there is bushing, and in the new one there isn’t.
I think I swapped them over
there's a difference? Between the electric steering rack Ford Mustang 2017 .. 4 cylinder ... v6 .. Please answer m
I couldn't tell you never worked on 1
I have a question looking to buy a rack and pinion for the same suv and its asking me about submodel with automated parking system or without automated parking system just don’t know which one to buy and also thanks for the video
Call up the dealer in see if they can help you
it is referring to the self parking, the unit with self parking is more expensive...its the one I needed. dealer can tell you which one needed by vin number.
Stupid question I have an electric rack and pinion ste67 being changed right now, does it have to be bled? Or that’s only for racks that are not electrical and require fluid
Just for hydraulic racks
about to replace one in a buddy's 2013 police interceptor it locked up on him in a parking lot. crazy they still allow these on the road.
Is this Zach from GA with the epic crown vic?
Yep, MIne just went out last night. I feel fortunate, unlike others who have been driving on the freeway.
You where able to make it home?
shortyboy1986 on my street
At least you were close
@@shortyboy1986 thankfully. I did report the failure to NHTSA as well to Ford and of course because there is not a recall they said have a nice day.
Wow
Where did you buy the rack from? Could you provide a name or maybe even a link? I'm just not sure where to get one
I got it from eBay. U just have to search it. I don't have a link
Do you think that there is enough clearance to drop the sub frame without taking off the exhaust. My bolts are pretty darn rusted. I even soaked them with PB blaster.
You have to at least take it off from the catalytic converter
I did it without dropping the exhaust on 12 ton jacks. Pretty tight but can be done. Also form right aide unbolt away bar to get extra clearance.
You can. You still have to drop the subframe, then support it with a jack/jackstand while you work so its not laying in the exhaust pipes.
I want to buy a 2014 Ford Explorer, do you know if this cremayera has any improvements for that year or is it the same as the one from 2011 to 2013? thank you
I couldn't tell you
If I do not reprogram it will it still feel hard to turn ? not as hard as the old one or did I just got lucky and got a bad rack and pinion? Will recalibrating the steering angle sensor help?
We did end up reprogramming it. Everything is plugged in right?
@@shortyboy1986everything is plugged correctly, I put some grease on it and it seemed to be better but I still havent reprogram it, will that be causing it to still be a bit hard ?
I wouldn't think so but I dunno how did does things. I can't stand this Electric Rack stuff.
5 years ago....How well did that detroit axles rack hold up?
I don't remember the brand but it's still going
I just installed a new steering rack for mi 2013 Ford Explorer (Police Interceptor) today. I've been able to fix it right by watching your video but it's not turning and I think it needs to be programmed. Please, can you help me with that. I hope to hear from you soon. Stanley from Ghana 🇬🇭.
Ya I think the problem is that it needs to be programmed. We had to
Was it a used part? How did u reprogram it? Did u have any issues while it was not reprogrammed
It was reman. The dealer reprogrammed it. It didn't act like it should have. We have about of issues with this peace of cheap. I like hydraulic racks.
It's the bearing below the electric motor. Water gets in from the passenger side boot and dries out the bearing. Can be cleaned and repacked.
OK haven't heard of that
@@shortyboy1986 where did you take yours to reprogram it ?
@@JorgeVargas-uf6lu ford
How can I do that?
Is that a 3.5 L gas explorer XLT? Where did you buy the rack and how much it costs?
Limited. EBay it was over a $1000
@@shortyboy1986 which brand was that, do you recommend it?
Do you have to reprogram the steering module after replacement?
I've answered this several times. Yes
@@shortyboy1986 yeah what I meant to ask is have you had to replace the data or copy to new module when are replacing just the gearbox.
How long to do this job?? And what did parts cost approximately?
2 or so hrs. $700+
after installing the new rack where you able to drive it to get it programmed.
Ya
Is it possible to only replace the motor? And how severe or how common is this issue? I have a 2015 with 106K and I occasionally hear a random 'thump' when I turn the steering all the way to either side.
Common issue. Someone just commented on they just did a recall on this issue. So I would see if you can get it fixed from the dealer
@@shortyboy1986 My car is at the dealer right now. Took it in yesterday. No recall.
@@AbuPaul that's stupid. They need to recall that crap
I know it's late but my understanding is the recall was for models built at the Canadian factory only. Dealer wants over $3K to do this work now. I am doing the rack, control arms and sway bar links this weekend $1300 in parts and a day of sweat equity. I cant complain though I got 228K miles out of the original parts.
What if the Advance Traction is being affected? I still hear the roaring noise and my truck pulls.
I'm not sure about that sorry. Roaring from the tires or the rack?
Did you pull the steering rack out of the driver side or the passenger because I cannot pull it out of the passenger side
I can't remember. Does it say in the video?
@@shortyboy1986 no it did not
@@samuelcl63 o OK. To tell you the truth I really don't remember
Would it still drive if you don’t program it after installation? Thank you in advance
The 1 I did did but it might be different for yours
@@shortyboy1986 your explorer its a 2013 and you did not have to program it ?
We indeed up having too
shortyboy1986 did you program it tho??
Did you mess with the front motor mounts? Dealer is fixing mine under the recall, they called and stated oh yeah. By the way need struts and tires which I know will need to be done soon, but the. Said oh yeah you have a broken motor mount...and I didnt have issues before like the motor jerking..think they are playing me..100 for the part...and 200 for installation but if it's a mount the gotta touch anyway..wtf..thoughts?
The only mount you have to move is the lower mount. I think there is only 3 mounts. 2 on the sides & 1 under the car. If it's cracked then that might be u they are recommending to fix it
I never liked those "oh by the way" stuff. Especially from a dealer who's trying to soak you and drown the wallet.
Very useful thanks, it took me time to find a straight forward video. U did so well. I wanna ask u. Did u need to code the neew one or its just a plug and play type of thing . ?
I did work but we ended up having to get it programed
@@shortyboy1986 alright, did u program it ur self or u had dealership do it for u.
@@richardchinedu7697 dealer
@@shortyboy1986 how much did they charge you to reprogram it??
@@heyguys12415 don't remember. I'm sure it's more now from this crap inflation! It was definitely over $100
I just got mine replaced but the lane keep assist, service advancetrac, park aid are on. Does that mean that the replacement was not what my truck needs? or it just needs a reprograming?
Not sure man
@@shortyboy1986 went to Ford to get it programmed but they couldnt get it to work correctly so it seems like I was sold an incompatible rack. All Land Keeping Assist, Park Aid Fault, pre-collision system, hill start, terrain management system lights are on
Just want to add an update here. After the installation, a bunch of warning lights were on the dash then I took it to Ford dealership to get it programmed, they could not resolve it and charged me $185. I went home, ordered an OBD2 scanner tool for $21 (the one that is compatible with Forscan), clicked Load Factory AB for the PSCM and done. Now I really wonder who did the Ford dealership hire to work in the Service department. $185 + 1.5hour of waiting for NOTHING. For those who own a Ford, get yourself the OBD2 tool because that tool alone can save you a lot of headache
Glad u got it working. I would get my money back.
We are doing one in a 2011 and I talked to some one at the Ford Dealer Parts inquiring about buying one. They said they needed to be reprogrammed after installation. However it looked like you just installed, plugged it up and drove off...
Ya it seems to work just fine for me. I just plugged it in and it was working fine.
@@shortyboy1986 hello do u know how to reprogram it?
We had to end up reprogramming it. No I do. You have to take it to a shop that can do that stuff.
@@shortyboy1986 ok thank my friend.
Did you program the new one? Thanks
The dealer did
Are there any bolts in the car near the gas pedal to be removed?
No nothing
@@shortyboy1986 thank you!
shortyboy1986 I have one last question , did you use a impact to remove the bolts from the exhaust pipe or did you use regular socket tools?
Just sockets
Thanks for the video. 3 years later, how did the eBay Rack hold up? I’m curious 🧐
It's fine still
What made you have to get it reprogrammed? Were you at least able to drive it there for reprogramming? My 14 steering just started getting tight today at low speeds.
It was working fine when we put it in.
Oh I thought I read you did end up having to get it programmed. Thanks for replying
We did get it reprogrammed but It did work fine after I installed it. It was programmed just to be sure everything was working right.
Copy that. Thank you. And thank you for the great video. Any idea how this Detroit axle rack is holding up?
I put mine in and I had the traction control light and hill assist lights come on right away. Took it to the dealer and they said they programmed it but the lights were still on. They looked into it and said either wrong rack or bad rack. So either the electronics on it are bad or are wrong. Detroit axle is being no help. So I will be paying for 2 alignments and programming done twice.
Saw a lowered vehicle with nice mesh wheels on the paint reflection, looked through the channel and found a 2nd gen teggy
Yup that's mine have several videos on it. Love the car. I have white wheels now
Need to do this in my wife’s 2013 Flex
Did you end up doing this? I have a 2013 Ford Flex also and we are looking for all the information we can. My husband is planning to replace it himself. Did you have to get it programmed? I read that you can program it yourself... wondering if that is an option.
Did you had to do any using Ford IDS software? Just replace mine on a 2016 and the steering wheel feels too hard to make turns. Also Service advancetrack warning lights came up. Any help will be appreciated. Thanks in advance.
We had to get it programmed. I just installed it. Just make sure everything is hooked back up. There wasn't any lights on when I installed it. It wasn't hard to turn either.
I just replaced mine and all warnings went away will I have to still.get the down load?
Maybe not.
I just replaced mine in my 2014 Ford Focus and after driving my hill Assist disabled in my traction control light came on along with the i indicator light took to fords had paid the $95 to program it they cleared the codes attempt to drive on highway quickly seemed like steering was still hard and the lights came back on again and just all around felt like bad idea to get off the highway and go back roads home so it does drive the steering isn’t like it originally was so I’m still searching for the answer to this problem turning up empty handed it loosens up keeping it under 30 mph and get harder the faster ya go so I know your pain I’m stuck between is my new unit faulty or is something else going on maybe an alignment cause it came with new ball joints would this effect how stiff the steering is so far I’ve found nothing if you figure it out please let me know
how did it go for you? Mine is 16 Explorer as well (platinum) and my reman rack should be here tomorrow. Finger crossed that everything will go smoothly
Could you add a video of how to do the software on replacement rack?
I didn't do that. It was the dealer
@@shortyboy1986 Could you let us know the price range the dealership charged to reprogram it?
I think around $100
@@shortyboy1986 so was you able to drive it to dealership or have it towed?
@@chuckwilson1479 drove it
cool man my friend just got a price from a shop wow ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,you save a lot of coin did you have to program it ?
Yes we ended up having 2
Did you get the "Steering assist fault" message?
I think eventually we did. We ended up having alot of issues with it. I'm not a fan at all of the electric steering.
@@shortyboy1986 what did you have to do to not have the fault? Did you have to get it programmed or anything else after this vid?
Yes we did
Did you end up having to program anything?
Yes it's the biggest headache
@@shortyboy1986 I'm going to replace it and let the shop program it when they do my alignment. Thank you. Did you order a motorcraft one? I'm having trouble finding a part.
hi, after replacing no need programming for the new PSCM?
We eventually did
My track control light is on after I replaced and kinda like a little hard on turns do I need to reprogram it?
@@djmario202004 is just too be sure it's programmed to the car
@@shortyboy1986 How did you program it?
Dealer did
Do you have to disconnect the battery?
You should
Hi sir! Does the 2012 explorer rack and pinion Electric??
It should be
@@shortyboy1986 Problem ismy sister Have a problem with that and there's A recall in that year. She took it there And they said that's not an electrical Issue it's mecanical and is not under Warranty🙄
I would fight that. It's all 1 peace
how much did the dealership charge to reprogram the unit
It was 100 & something
carl you watching this?he says use the force. 3:00
Do you know if I can put a rack and pinion automatic parking in one that is not? I found one from a limited 2015 and mine is 2011 xlt, I would like someone to help me
Can't say. I haven't done any research on it.
@@shortyboy1986 I tried to look for information on the internet and called the Ford store and they told me that they don't know if it is compatible, it is a very expensive part and I found one with 65k miles for 400 dollars but I don't know if it would work
So how about the programming the new part to the car system?
Dealer
shortyboy1986 I’m fixing this problem right how. Can you advise how much did the dealer charge to reprogram the module. Thanks in advance
@@blist3274 its my sister car so I dunno how much they charge?
shortyboy1986 thanks
Did you have to support the engine when you dropped the subframe??
No
How long did it take to replace ?
Couple of hrs
How do I replace my track and pinion on my 2015 ford explorer
This is the video for it
What on it has to be programmed?
It has a computer in it
how much did the repair cost?
I don't remember
It's not cheap
So no programing needed ?
From what ford said you do
Did you just take it to the dealer after to reprogram it
We eventually did
I have a 2011 F-150 with this issue any clue if procedure to swap out is similar?
I don't think they are electric. I'm not sure though
Called my local Firestone shop. They will program the new rack for $13.00
How much would you charge for a job like this?
Probably a couple of 100
Hello just replace mine on a 2013 xlt. When i took home from the shop sterring was alittle tight and the sterring wheel wasn't returning on a turn . lights came on adv trac service, power sterring service now wheel as hard as a rock.
Just wanted to know if i should just get another one or is the one i have should just be programmed
@@agentofpower1 how did you end up fixing this??
Mine also tight on turning . Is it already the rack and pinion needs to be replace? I don’t have any dashboard light warning
I’m really surprised you didn’t have to reprogram it after you finished, Ford keeps saying you have to reprogram the rack and pinion after replacement.
We ended up needing to
Does Ford has a recall on this?
No
They do have a recall , they'll pay if it has less than 150,00, i called ford and thats what they told me, the mechanic told me that also, ( mine has 156,00) so ill have to do it myself)
O when I looked I couldn't find a recall. That's good they do.
@@johnnyg2983 can you provide the number for Ford that you called?
@@shortyboy1986 depends on the VIN. My 2014 was produced just after the 2011-2013 recall. I am saving receipts in case someday they add another 6mo of manufactured vehicles to the recall. I think the models sold in 2014 that were produced up to April of 2013 are covered.
what side did you pull it out from passengers or drivers
Passenger side
@@shortyboy1986 Thank you for your help, but now im having alot of trouble sliding back in . Every angle seems to get stuck , How exactly did you slide it back in . I would really appreciate your help humbly
Just played around with it till I got it in. Don't remember exactly.
@@shortyboy1986 Thank you i got it in , youre video was spot on.
Thanks that's why I made the video to help people out.
There is an active recall on these. No cost to you for parts and labor.
I tried that when it went bad but they said it was for only the older 1s
Just replaced mine, 2013 Ford explorer limited. Now im getting a warning, lane keeping assist malfunction.
That's a new 1. Not sure what thats all about. I'm not a fan of these Electric racks. Might have to get it programmed since it is a new 1.
@@shortyboy1986 do you know what plug controls the lane assist? I called the company that I bought it from and they had no clue and after a Google search I came up empty handed
No mine did not have it. Sorry. You have the main power which is 2 thick wires the other 1 I have is for the steering angle sensor.
You yon up the ground wire to the rack?
@@shortyboy1986 yes, I have the ground back on. I might need to get back under it and sand down where the ground is, never did that.
I have the 2013 Ford Explorer Limited and make a winding noise
Explain more
Is there any class action lawsuits that anyone knows of please reply
No
Need to start one. SMH
Yes there are but they are for the Fusions and Focuses. It wasn’t successful though.
To all having this issue, please file a complaint for this to NHTSA so they can put a recall on this issue.
Some years they have a recall but at the time this year didn't. Maybe now I dunno
Does it matter if it’s automatic parking or not
I don't remember
1200 bucks cost today. 12-11-23. Used from LKQ 700!
Wish you could do mines i have the same problem
Ya lol. It's not too bad to do
@@shortyboy1986 Im positive your on the other side of the map but if your in pa lmk I need this done ASAP.
I'm in GA lol. Not close
@@shortyboy1986 I knew it lol and the dealer here in pa asking $2240 to replace it🤦🏿
Geese an arm & a leg
You sure ruined my day. My 2014 has just become very sticky on turns. Not what I wanted to hear. Thanks for your explanation.
Yup mine to
Me too what did you do?
I have a 2016 Explorer with less than 90,000 miles with this issue. My love for the explorer died.
Ya its a nice car but has too many electrical issues
Same story with the exact number of 90,000 miles and a 16 Explorer as well (Platinum). The assembly is expensive as hell, I just bit the bullet and paid $1400 (include tax) for a REMANUFACTORED part. Its my first Ford and will be my last one
how much are these things?
We got this 1 for $494
@@shortyboy1986 thanks man
shortyboy1986 where did u get it from
EBay
180k miles! i have 2013 today with 133k, changing water pump pre-emptively
You should do a good cooling system flush too.
@@dmc31405 did that already.. it started losing coolant a little so decided to change pump
4 years on, how is it. I see you used a Detroit Axle rack.... I have had horrible luck with that company and wouldn't recommend them at all. Hopefully you had good luck.
I had to change it a few times because of bad 1s. But it's been good sense
@@shortyboy1986 yup, third time was the charm with Detroit Axle, and being in Canada, you can imagine how long that repair took. I'm looking at $1400 CAD from Ford for the Exploder rack. Mine has park assist (Limited) so I assume it'll need to go to Ford for programming. Tuesday itll go in to see if new software will help, I'm not holding my breath lol
It had park assistance 2 & had to program it
@@shortyboy1986 can you drive it without the programming or did you have it towed to Ford?
Outter control arm lmfao
You wonder why many just stick to older cars. Too many electronic parts mean more trouble.
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