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It's a complex history with changes in dynamics and relations between different communities. I come from a Jewish family that lived in Iraq. My parents and many relatives often shared a beautiful stories about our society, their involvement in public life, and how they interacted with Muslims back then. The establishment of the State of Israel indeed had significant implications for Jewish communities across the Middle East, including in Iraq.
Our family is from Iraq as well. Our grandfather was chased out of the Ottoman bank, where he worked by a Nazi sympathizer, lucky he was off that day but had he not left at that point so many in his family would have died in the Farhud. During the siege of Jerusalem he lost 2 cousins trying to deliver humanitarian aid to the Jewish quarter who were being starved out by the Arabs who now call themselves ‘P’ The Jiminy laws they lived in throughout the Ottoman Empire were in Middle East analog to Jim Crow laws in the United States, so your house had to be shorter than the Muslim houses. You could only ride a donkey you were not allowed to ride on a horse you could only wear certain clothes your clothes could only be made with inferior fabrics , you had to pay for your existence to say there is no violence is like saying that slaves in America did not revolt. It’s not because this was a great arrangement for them. It was because they were in constant fear of their lives.
@@playinglifeoneasy9226I’ve listened to many who say the opposite. Avi Schlaim for one I’m not saying there wasn’t conflict sometimes but look at Europe in those times And look at the stories of Jacob De Haan or the UN envoy in the Nakba It’s not just Arab probably bad Jew probably good
@@dl1361 schlaim is a fraud
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At minute 14:00 the scholarship says when Christians are on top the Jews suffer. When the Muslims are on top the Jews suffer. Now from the river to the sea Jews are on top, the Muslims suffer. The scholar doesn't mention that! Morever now is 2024 and not the medieval period. So no comparison.
Among the most prominent Jews to serve as viziers in the Muslim taifas were the ibn Nagrelas (or Naghrela). Samuel Ha-Nagid ibn Nagrela (993-1056) served Granada's King Habbus al-Muzaffar and his son Badis for thirty years. In addition to his roles as policy director and military leader (as one of only two Jews to command Muslim armies, the other being his son Joseph), Samuel ibn Nagrela was an accomplished poet, and his introduction to the Talmud is standard today.
I would like to know: did he (Samuel) write poems in the Arabic language?
@@efstratiosfilis2290 judeo Arabic
Maybe talk about how the Nazi regime asked the Moroccan King back then to hand over his 300,000 Jews, he refused. As a Muslims ruler he couldn’t, he said to them I am King of all Moroccan, Muslims and Jews. Something Christian countries had no problem doing. That is why until this day there js a huge Moroccan Jewish community in the world.
Morocco treated Jews like 2nd class citizens because under Islamic Shariah Law, a non muslim can never be treated on equal terms with a muslim. Between 1940 and November of 1942 when the Americans landed in Morocco, Moroccan Jews also had to abide by discriminatory laws: Jewish children were expelled from Moroccan schools, Jews were fired from Moroccan government jobs, and there were quotas on how many Moroccan Jews could attend universities or work as doctors, lawyers and pharmacists.
@@thebeatnumberyou were let to live thank for that you ingrate When all of Europe was trying to make you go extinct But I guess now why they did wanted to
@@thebeatnumberyeah because you are not equal We can debate it Your faith vs My faith Or just go to watch a islamic debater and see for yourself how can truthful be treated same as liars
@@thebeatnumberyou can have your laws But you want to be integrated with us Don't joke with me you are your own kind You are occupying my land that's it and if it's in fate we will take it back and we will take it back in fitting way That's all If fate has it
@@thebeatnumber Source: trust me bro How do you explain both kings Hassan 2nd and Mohammed 6 Senior Advisor being Jewish (André Azoulay)?? And what do you even know about Morocco?
Kind of begs the question why so many Sephardic Jews moved to the Ottoman empire as a consequence of being forced out of Spain? Maybe it was relatively easy and there weren't many other alternatives? Maybe it was because of strong social and economic ties with other Mediterranean Jewish communities? But whilst life under the Ottomans was far from ideal, these communities in modern day Egypt, Iraq, Morocco, etc were quite prosperous. It was Israel's involvement in the Suez invasion of 1956 that caused them to be kicked out. At a time when Israel was in need of more colonists.
Egypt started the Suez Crisis which also involved USA, Britain , France.
Many moved to the Holy Roman Empire particularly in the lowlands, Britain, or Poland after the fall. So your point is kinda stupid, they had to go somewhere.
They probably considered having to pay double the taxation as just a business expense in Muslim countries but eventually they were killed or ran away after animosity started when Israel was established. Compared to previously they're very few Jews left in the Arab world.
@@richardvass1462 no they considered it what it was....Jew Hate and discrimination.
@@pamelakoretsky9909 change the first word in my comment to Jews. Then you'll understand that im saying that this is why jews left other places to live in Muslim countries. At that time it was the lesser of two evils.
DID NOT THE JEWRY OF SPAIN SEEKED REFUGE IN MOROCCO AFTER THE INQUISITION???? AS A KID I PLAYED FOOTBALL NEXT TO A JEWISH CEMETERY AND WE MADE SURE OUR BALL DOES NOT GET INTO IT…PROUD OF THAT…SHALOM
A believer is not stung from the same whole twice. The one who tolerates you will be charged with ridda. And no Muslim cares about your history.
They did. The Jews that left Spain sought refuge in Morocco the Ottoman empire parts of the Netherlands a super small number went to southern Ireland some went to Greece and some went to Italy. The Ottomans took in the largest number. At first the Moroccans were quite harsh towards the Jewish refugees but eventually that harshness got toned down quite a bit.
yes....but they still lived as dhimmi and had to pay protection taxes
Massacre of Fez (AD 1033), killed 6000 Jews.
I don’t think the Jews lived safely in Morocco at all. Have you heard about the 1033 Fez massacre ?
Why do you not talk about Umayyad Spain under the Arabs before the Al Mohads? Yes there was discrimination under Moslem rule but it was not the Moslems who forced the Sephardim completely our of Iberia. Isabel & Fedinand ethnically cleansed Iberia of Moslems & Jews.
Ethnically cleansed?? lol Jews who converted where allowed to stay. Spain has never had a ethnonationalist identity. It had always put God above everything else.
@alejandroalonso5386 It had a fascist-nationalist identity under Franco, Alejandro. I visited Spain last year & I was shocked to read the names of the priests murdered by his soldiers & sympathisers recorded on the walls of the Cordova mosque/cathedral. Forcing people to convert or leave is part of ethnic cleansing. I respect Spain because it acknowledges its history. Spain has offered citizenship to the descendants of the Sephardic community it forced to convert.
@@efstratiosfilis2290 Spain was not fascist it was traditionalist. Franco sent food to the Vatican during WW2 to feed the Jews that the pope saved. Also, the priest were killed by the republican side ( anarchist, communist, socialist and, republicans. As for the Jewish expulsion during the 1400 I can’t speak of. Since I haven’t done too much research on that topic. Still doesn’t equate to ethnic cleansing though
@@alejandroalonso5386 Would Hitler have trialed out his new bomber aeroplanes in the slaughter of Gernika if Franco was not of his party? Like all Fascist nationalists, Franco spent years trying to wipe out the Basque identity & language. Peron & Franco then gave refuge to Dr. Ante Pavelic the butcher of Bosnia. Pavelic is buried in Madrid.
Because everybody knows about it.
I was listening to him intently because I am student of history. I respect his perspective on the Iberian peninsula. But, as soon as he started talking about the Iraqi jews, I lost all respect for him. As a historian, he should note that the upheaval for the Jewish community in Iraq was instigated by Israeli agents to force immigration of the Jews to the nation state of israel. This is a matter of history. Feel free to do some independent research. Read Avi Shlaim. As a Iraqi jew, born in Iraq and a historian, I would think that Avi has a better sense of what happened to his community than this esteemed colleague of ours. It is sad that a historian would change history to fit his narrative. No respect for this guy anymore.
It was not only Iraq. Egypt, Iran and everywhere else that had a Jewsish minority in a Muslim country was a target of mos-sad. This historian is clearly an agent for them to try and falsely rewrite history
So before 1948, The Jews and Arabs were getting along well?Is there a way we can discuss more about that?
Avi Shlaim is a good resource on this history regarding the Iraqi Jews and what happened to them at the hands of the Israelis.
You embarrass yourself. While Schlaim peddles utter nonsense about 1950-51 but this has nothing to do with the Farhud which was in 1941 which is what Woolf was referring to. Some 200 Jews were murdered, homes looted and women were raped as their neighbors and police looked on. As a "student of history" you're a decade off.
Thank you! This guy left big holes in his 'history' and frankly is just spewing Zionist propaganda. Non jews in israel are living under apartheid and ethnic cleansing and this guy is talking about second class status of Medieval Spain. The irony
It’s very concerning when we expect our elders to be wise, knowledgeable and practicing integrity but are in fact filled with lies, hate and acting on a willingness to alter history and propagandise to fulfill a sinister agenda. Dangerous‼️
Be more vague please
@@GA-sn1hn, those who know, know. The comment was clearly not directed at you. It was directed at other jew haters who flock to videos like this one.
Oh another ignoamous where are your credentials where are your facts smithsdaughter hiding behind a name that’s not yours
That's why the youth are the ones carrying the world right now, they are the ones waking up from the lies the media has made up throughout all these years
Academic training at Harvard does not give you the authority to change history 😮
Islam did it and it's a false religion, what's your point?
@@maverick7291 jesus not God..please ask jews about jesus, they will tell you the truth who iis false
@@fazrul78 Jesus Christ is God . The Jews that followed Jesus Christ at that time and later helped grow the religion are the ones that knew the truth. Judaism was practiced first by Jews (obviously). Christianity was practiced first by Jews and then gentiles (non Jews). Islam was first practiced by Arabs and then non Arabs.
there have been pogroms in Persia / Iran for centuries. there were massive conversions also -- especially in Masshad. The places were Muslims and Jews got along were further east and north along the silk road - like Samarkand. And even that ended. So, that also means that many people in Iran today are genetically Jewish.
Zionist propaganda
The Myth of the Andalusian Paradise: Muslims, Christians, and Jews under Islamic Rule in Medieval Spain by Dario Fernandez-Morera
An absolute embarrassing publication written by a butthurt Spaniard and wrought with double standards. Al Andalus wasn’t a paradise, but it wasn’t half bad either.
SALaM, SHLAMa, SHLOMo, SHALoM, NAMASTe, PEACe. Some People Will Do Anything To Make Money, Even Sell Their Own Souls.
SALaM, SHLAMa, SHLOMo, SHALoM, NAMASTe, PEACe. The Star of David, Crucifix & The Crescent, Are Found In Hinduism. Vedas [Hindu Bible] Mentions Adam, Abraham, Moses, Noah & Muhammad, Within Judaism, Christianity, Islam and Hinduism. Adam Was Swayambhu Manu (4000BC), Cain Was Indra (3200BC), Noah Was Vaivaswat Manu (3000BC), Abraham Was Rama (2100BC) Moses Was Krishna (1500BC), Mahamada Was Muhammad. Adam, Abraham, Moses & Jesus Went To The Indus Valley. Hinduism Vedas = Monotheism Guru Books = Trinity & Polytheism. Hinduism Was The Largest Monotheistic Religion In Ancient Times, But When They Added The Trinity And Polytheism, The Religion Declined. After Hinduism Came Zoroastrianism Which Also Had The Same Corruption, Then Came Buddhism, Rinse & Repeat Also Happened. Indian Hindu's Also Put A Red Dot, On Their Heads, Symbolising A Connection To The Kaaba, All Lost Knowledge, From Time. Minus The Trinity Which Was Added And Numerous Deities, Original Hinduism, Zoroastrianism, Buddhism & Christianity Were All Totally Monotheistic. Belief In The Unseen God Of All Creation, With No Image & No Form. MUHAMMAD (PBUH) IN BUDDHIST SCRIPTURES [Dr. Zakir Naik] Buddhism Started In The Sixth Century BCE. Buddha prophesised the advent of a Maitreya: Almost all Buddhist books contain this prophecy. It is in Chakkavatti Sinhnad Suttanta D. III, 76: "There will arise in the world a Buddha named Maitreya (the benevolent one) a holy one, a supreme one, an enlightened one, endowed with wisdom in conduct, auspicious, knowing the universe: But Modern Buddhists Believe In The Trinity, But With No God, Whilst Hindu's, Zoroastrians, Christians All Have Adopted The Trinity, From The Egyptians, Sumerians, Greeks & Romans. Buddha Was A Messenger Of God, He Even Claimed That, But Told His People Not To Create A Idol Of Him. As Soon As He Died, They First Created A Aryan Idol Of Them, Then Ended With A Oriental Buddha, Going Against His Message & God's. Canon States: There Is Only One God, Whom Created Good & Evil. The Holy Kaaba was recorded by the Greek historian Diodorus Siculus before Christ Era. In John (4:21-24) Jesus Christ also told that woman that neither at Jerusalem nor in its mountain God will be worshipped, why? Because God is Spiri*t, therefore, the *true worshippers would worship HIM as spirit & not as God Incarnate in human form. The Kaaba, a black cubical building at the center of the Grand Mosque of Mecca; it is the most sacred site in Islam. The Jewish Tefillin [Prayer Leather Box] With The Seven Straps Around The Arms, Relates To The Seven Circumambulation Around The Kaaba. They Witnessed The First Human Period Rain, Which Becomes The Zam Zam [Named By Hagar In Egyptian - Stop Flowing] Well. Then God Sends An Asteroid From The Heavens, Which Lands, Which Is Later Placed On The Corner Of The Kaaba [First Temple]. The Kaaba Akin To King Solomon's Temple, As Been Destroyed And Rebuilt. All The Prophets Of God, Went To Becca [Now Mecca] For The Hajj [Pilgrimage] Adam & Eve Built The First Temple There, With Witnessing The First Rain From The Heavens. Akin To King & Prophet Solomon's Temple, It Has Been Destroyed And Rebuilt. It Was Destroyed After The Flood Of Noah, Then Abraham Rebuilt It, With His Second Wife Hajar, Whom Founded The First Spring Again, After It Was Lost In Time [Called Zam Zam - Egyptian For Stop Flowing]. Psalms 84 [Books Of David]: Blessed are those whose strength is in you, who have set their hearts on pilgrimage [Hajj]. As they pass through the Valley of Baca [Now Mecca], they make it a place of springs; the autumn rains also cover it with pools. They go from strength to strength, till each appears before God.. Quran [Last Testament]: 95. Say: "(God) speaketh the Truth: follow the religion of Abraham, the same in faith; he was not of the Pagans." 96. The first House (of worship) appointed for men was that at Bakka [Now Mecca]: Full of blessing and of guidance for all kinds of beings: 97. In it are Signs Manifest; (for example), the Station of Abraham; whoever enters it attains security; Pilgrimage thereto is a duty men owe to God,- those who can afford the journey; but if any deny faith, God stands not in need of any of His creatures. The Word Tefillin Derives From Tawaf, Circumambulation Around The Kaaba. Adam & Eve Were Sent Down Separately, They Both Meet Up In The Valley Of Becca [Now Mecca]. Whenever A Scripture Becomes Corrupted, Then God Almighty Sends A Update [Similar To Windows Or Apple IOS]. Vedas [Corrupted - Mixed Falsehood With Truth] Avesta [Corrupted - Mixed Falsehood With Truth] Cannon [Corrupted - Mixed Falsehood With Truth] Book Of Enoch [Corrupted - Mixed Falsehood With Truth] Psalms [Corrupted - Mixed Falsehood With Truth] Torah [Corrupted - Mixed Falsehood With Truth] Quran [Final Update - Gods Sealed With White Magic]. Any Verse Within The Above Scriptures Before The Quran, Have Some Authentic Verses And Some Corrupted, Apply Logic: See God's Pattern: Torah [Old Testament]: Eye For An Eye, Tooth For A Tooth [A Life For A Life]. Gospel [New Testament]: Turn The Other Cheek [Full Pardon]. Quran [Last Testament]: Blood Money [Compensation]. Let The World Open Their Eyes, From Adam & Eve To All The Scriptures Sent By God Almighty Alone, The Jealous God With No Partners, Unite Mankind We Are One With The Same One God, Without The Any Form Of Trinity, Kinship Or Partners. Pure Monotheistic Hinduism Is ISLaM, Pure Monotheistic Zoroastrian Is ISLaM, Pure Monotheistic Buddhism Is ISLaM, Pure Judaism Is ISLaM, Pure Monotheistic Christianity Is ISLaM, Pure ISLaM Is The Path Of Abraham The Friend Of God & Noah The Great Servant Of God. THANX
@@omarlittle-hales8237 don't rely on the false prophet and the Koran for truth.
we know you do not like tue truth
As an iranian I can say that when we became muslim our nation wasn't as accepting towards jews anymore. Before islam tookover and christianity was in Iran, jews lived in peace in Iran but that stopped after islam and christianity came
Just STOP spreading stupidity.
Your under my shoe no matter how much you bark you will always end up under our boots cry louder.
Why?
Islam not Christianity
More fabrications driven by your self hatred
Correction: Pre-Islamic Spain was a mixture of Roman and Visigothic cultures. since the area was conquered by the Visigoths. I am glad he admitted to the treachery of the Jews - against Christians - after the Islamic conquest. It's too bad he chose to omit that Christians were also persecuted - during the Islamic rule of Spain. He should have also mentioned Jewish persecution of Christians in Yemen, under Dhu Nuwas.
More corrections: Hispania was not conquered by the visigoths, they came for the protection of this part of the Roman Empire against other invaders. They were about 5/7% of the population They accepted the superiority of the hispanic latin culture and, later, christianity. Influence of germanic culture does not mean culture mixing.
"They came for the protection" of the people of Hispania? That's false. They were warlike people, like many of the other Germanic tribes (Normans, Franks, Vandals, Saxons, etc.). Did they help save European civilization? Yes. The Roman Empire was in freefall, and Germanic tribes filled the power vacuum. "Influence of germanic culture does not mean culture mixing." This is a self-refuting statement. The influence of one culture on another to the point that language, agriculture, aquaculture, building and metallurgy techniques, cultural institutions and clothing are affected IS mixing.
Jews never had power in Yemen. Also, Yemeni Jews are ethnic Yemeni Arab that adopted Judaism late in their history. You’re wrong twice. Your also talk about Jews “persecuting” Christians: FALSE 😂 Jews never persecuted anyone because it is a non proselytizing religion. Go back to growing your little mustache and preparing to invade Poland.
Mind you that muhammad started killing thousands of jews when he cam to power. They tried to pit him against the christians. But that backfired against them. Jesus said forgive the on the cross.
Also, Jews started persecuting christians from the very beginning. Take Paul for example.
The Jews of Sicily under the Normans were Arab speakers. Were the Jews of Spain similarly just Arab speakers in this period?
No , El Sefardi sige vivo , a Dios gracias
Multilingual
Rambam spoke arabic, spanish and french if I remember correct....hebrew was for torah studies and fields of religion
Jews of Spain spoke Ladino, Jews of the German and Poland Ukrainian Russia region spoke Yiddish Jews in the middle East spoke Hebrew Arabic my in-laws still speak this
Jews have always been polyglots speaking their own language and the language of the country they find themselves in. Or a mix....Yiddish is an example.
For those believing in land promised to God’s people: This is from Dr Naomi Wolf Dated July 25, 2014 Okay, so I was challenged below. “Read the Bible! God gave the land of Israel to the Jewish people.” So… I may get crucified for this but I have started to say it -most recently (terrified, trembling) to warm welcome in a synagogue in LA: Actually if you could read Genesis Exodus and Deuteronomy in Hebrew - as I do - you will see that God did not “give” Israel to the Jews/Israelites. We as Jews are raised with the creed that “God gave us the land of Israel” in Genesis - and that ethnically “we are the chosen people.” But actually - and I could not believe my eyes when I saw this, I checked my reading with major scholars and they confirmed it - actually God’s “covenant” in Genesis Exodus and Deuteronomy with the Jewish people is NOT ABOUT AN ETHNICITY AND NOT ABOUT A CONTRACT. IT IS ABOUT A WAY OF BEHAVING. Again and again in the “covenant” language He never says “I will give you, ethnic Israelites, the land of Israel.” Rather He says something far more radical - far more subversive - far more Godlike in my view. He says: IF you visit those imprisoned…act mercifully to the widow and the orphan… welcome the stranger in your midst…tend the sick…do justice and love mercy…and perform various other tasks…THEN YOU WILL BE MY PEOPLE AND THIS LAND WILL BE YOUR LAND. So “my people” is not ethnic - it is transactional. We are God’s people not by birth but by a way of behaving, that is ethical, kind and just. And we stop being “God’s people“ when we are not ethical, kind and just. And ANYONE who is ethical, kind and just is, according to God in Genesis, “God’s people.” And the “contract” to “give” us Israel is conditional - we can live in God’s land if we are “God’s people” in this way - just, merciful and compassionate. AND - it never ever says, it is ONLY your land. Even when all passages spell out geographical “boundaries” as if God does such a thing, it never says this is exclusively your land. It never says I will give this land JUST to you. Remember these were homeless nomads who had left slavery in Egypt and were wandering around in the desert; at most these passages say, settle here, but they do not say, settle here exclusively. Indeed again and again it talks about welcoming “zarim” - translated as “strangers” but can also be translated as “people/tribes who are not you” - in your midst. Blew my mind, hope it blows yours.
i just wanna point out in terms of outside influence, the hasmonean kings all called themselves basileus which is a greek title ironically after chasing out the seleucids under macabbeee
It's not only there, it is also happened in the story of Moses and even earlier with Joseph in Egypt, and with the story of Esther in Persia
Maimonides had to flee. He ended up in Egypt. Then his son had to flee Egypt to Aleppo. In the 1100s' the Jews were forced to flee Egypt. They were told convert or leave. Then later they were able to return. In the 1300s' they were told Convert to Islam or we kill you. So again the fled. Jews only returned to Egypt in the 1800s. Between 1948 to 1967 they fled again. In Iraq my family lived from 586 BC to late 1800s.
Perhaps Almighty God had given them plenty of chances to correct their previously demented deep rooted self aggrandizing warped mindset that they were 'superior' and the chosen race, they violated the Divine covenant, and were exiled to wander the 4 corners of the earth until the time of the end. did they NOT reject the very cornerstone (Jesus) who warned them of their imminent demise? Time and again they killed the multitude of Prophets sent by Almighty God to remedy their warped thinking and callous disregard of the enshrined covenant, but they never did take much notice, so my question is why do people go to great lengths to defend the indefensible? why not get their own individual life right with Almighty God, this life is but a test, the shortest period, beyond is either eternal torment in the Hell fire, or eternal Paradise.
@@sollykhan2385și Iov a fost preferatul Lui Dumnezeu și încercările pentru el au fost în extremă maximă... asa și Israelienii, "popor ales" pentru ca L-au răstignit pe Isus. Înconjurați de musulmani, alegerea locului pentru ei, o alta încercare. Din deșert au făcut o țară frumoasă, dar fără liniste și siguranța zilei. Musulmanii (unii) cu idei puține și fixe, de ce ii invidiază? La ei este regresul ca națiune, indoctrinarea.
@@sollykhan2385 I think you have swallowed a lot of anti-semitism overtime, which is clearly overtly rife in the muslim world. The Jews have always been a small minority group yet have put up with so much lies, hatred and violence. How exactly has a small group been so troublesome? Killed a multitude of prophets? the murders of several prophets over 3500 year history isn't exactly an accurate way to judge an entire group. Again, you can't pour hatred onto a group because of the actions of jewish kings and rulers. God provides the vengeance, it is not for us humans. I've heard of stories of where muslims have treated jews terribly (forcing them to stand at one side of the road while a muslim would pass) quotas for top jobs and university places, etc.
@@eugeniasanda9629 Bună eugenie, amintește-ți că Isus nu a fost ucis de evrei, ar trebui să citești Coranul, deoarece este revelația finală, scriptura din Coran este acolo pentru a corecta înșelăciunea și minciunile din Biblie. Evreii au fugit întotdeauna în națiunile musulmane după ce au primit. expulzați și alungați din aproape toate țările lumii, sub musulmani, ei (evreii) au prosperat întotdeauna și s-au simțit în siguranță, abia în ultimii 100 de ani sionismul și-a ridicat capul urât, iar supremațiștii albi care sunt lacomi cu doar criminali. intenția de a anexa fiecare națiune pe care o poate pentru controlul deplin și de a-și jefui resursele vitale. Adevărații voștri evrei au foarte puțin de-a face cu ceea ce se întâmplă astăzi în lume, deoarece recunosc pe deplin că au fost exilați din țara făgăduinței până în vremea lui. sfârșitul.
The so called “Golden Age of Spain “ was an invention of Heinrich Graets and his cronies, they were drunk on the possibilities of emancipation of the Jews in the 19th century. To draw parallels from history they imagined a perfect coexistence of Jews in Muslim dominated Spain as a clear precedent . If it happened in Muslim Spain that golden era can be replicated in Europe. But as it turns out it wasn’t that golden after all. True Shmuel Hanagid replanted the Yeshiva from Babylonia to Spain. Chisdai ibn Shaprut used his office to communicate with the converted kingdom of the Kazars . But in 1066 the Jews were pogromed at , the Jews of Granada sent in exile. Shmuel Hanagid’s son among the victims and his family seeking refuge in Córdoba.
Jews have been pogromed since the Egyptians, Greeks, Romans, muslims, Russians, polish …. They had problems with everyone, when you get kicked out of 109 places at some point you have to reflect on your behaviour
@@mikhailbabushkinum Jews were a minority among the nations and easily scapegoated . The framework was laid out for them in the Greek testament . “For you are the children of your father the devil..” “His blood is on us and on our children!” and many more of this vomit. Oh and don’t forget the church fathers who were obsessed with the jews writing works that would put mein kampf to shame . One that reads the Greek testament wonders , how on earth did the Jews survive period. Miracle of miracle they weren’t pogromed to extinction. The majnoun prophet of Arabia didn’t even have to write it . The mahamoudeans just have to emulate him . But the promise of the living God keeps us standing. “Yet, even then, when they are in the land of their enemies, I will not reject them or spurn them so as to destroy them, annulling My covenant with them: for I יהוה am their God.” (Leviticus 36:44)
why lie ? read the accounts of musa ibn maimun ( aka maimonides ,an sephardic jew who is knows to be a very pious jew, he was the 2nd moses after moses), he benefited alot from islamic scholars in spain.
@@mohamedhafizh9201 Maimonides is the perfect example for the point I’m making. Still in his teens already an accomplished scholar,Maimonides and his family are forced to move from al Andalusia because of the Almohads ( aka Isis ; aka Hizbollah) emulating of the prophet . With chants of ‘Khaybar Khaybar ya yahud ‘ they forced the Jews to either convert or move . Musa Ibn Maimonides moves to Fez where his teacher is tortured and killed for refusing to accept Islam. He then travels to the land of Israel, then under Crusader rule. Not a very safe environment there for jews especially famous ones, he sojourns to Fustat Cairo. There he becomes the private physician of Salach Adin.
I'm a Caribbean Sephardic Big Y 700 have been very insightful with my research
To suggest that Hamas acted solely on religious grounds against Jews in Israel is a gross simplification of the conflict. It's about power or the lack of it and it's about resources and the lack of the same. Furthermore, a more in depth analysis of the Middle Ages anti-Jewish actions will also reveal that religious differences were often just an the proximate trigger and that more material considerations also played a part.
Hamas was founded by Israel (yes, Israel, not Iran), was ever since funded by Israel and it remains an Israeli proxy to this day.
I suppose you know, do you not, that Israel was giving to Palestinians free electricity free water, which came at great expanse to Israeli tax payers. The Palestinians also received free food for the poor which everyone including the billionaires in Gaza were stealing. The heads of HAM-ASS I'm speaking about. And their cronies.
Islam is fundamentally antisemitic.
Because almost everyone in the west is conditioned into believing that arabs/Muslims are barbaric animals and Islam supported that idea of barbarism. It's just Europeans projecting their mistakes and ideas and then Gaslighting everyone into believing that's the norm. Nothing new
This video makes a lot of sense: 1) The second class status givent to Jews as to the Christians and the tax they had to pay that was so hight, that a lot of people became formal muslims because of that; 2) Inquisition went after Jews at Spain maybe partially because they were seen or portrayed as helpers of muslims against Christians.
What was the tax rate and who was expected to pay?
@@shafsteryellow It's called jizya, it's very difficult to count it on todays money. It was a tax for every non believer to pay "a tax from a head." It means that you had to pay even for an infant. I've read in history that the jizya was so high that many Christians had to became muslims otherwise they would go to debt and become slaves or beggars.
@@dostma1 that's a lie only adult males were liable. There's no amount of tax that would make me forsake my religion.
@@shafsteryellow I have degree from history of religions and state exam from islam. I was taught about the religion from a top professor in our country. Muslims in Balkan countries stole sons from aristocracy and forced them to accept islam and serve in muslim armies so that they could send them against potential rebellious Christian aristocrats. They were called janicari.
@@dostma1 and what does Ottomans stealing from some balkans have to do with the ruling of jizya exactly?
My grandmother, a Muslim from a Mizrahi background herself, cautioned me against unquestioningly believing in Ashkenazi propaganda. This individual (who calls himself professor in history) exemplifies this discrepancy. We, as proud Arab-Muslims tracing our lineage back to the Prophet Mohammed peace be up on him, do not disavow our Jewish forebears from esteemed Arab tribes, revered as the epitome of authenticity within Judaism. Numerous tribes in Najran/Yathrib (Medina), like the Beni Haniva, Beni Nadir, alongside Dhī Raʿīn, the Himyarites of Yemen, embraced Islam, proudly producing esteemed Islamic scholars. You see in this guys academia world, a significant gap exists as scholars like this often engage solely with texts, neglecting the invaluable insights of those who have lived/live through these realities. The rich tapestry of Andalusia stands as a testament to harmonious blending and equilibrium. Ultimately, we are all part of humanity, Nd I don’t really care as we are all equally divine creations of God. Please focus on being a sadiq.
Sure, even wife of Hashem (Amru) bin Abdi Manaf was of Najjar Tribe, Yemenite Jewish Mustaaribah of Judah Tribe who moved to Yathrib 200 years earlier because of the coming prophecy. One maternal line of Fatimah bintu Asad bin Hashem also from Jewish Babylonian Resh Galot, descendants of Zerubabbel the Exilarch, Fatimah was the mother of Imam Ali bin Abi Thalib. Those three tribes who were envious belonged to the Kohanim Levites. Family of Bani Najjar supported Rasulullah SAW. The Truce of Madinah specifically stated who Banu Najjar is.
There can be no 'lineage' back to Mohammad because there is no historical evidence he actually existed.
Harmonious blending? Go read The Myth of the Andalusian Paradise by Dr. Dario Fernández-Morera. Also what did your "prophet" do to the people oh Khaybar? Mohammed hated the Jews because they saw right through his act.
@@grumpycrumbles7360 what you read is writted by ignorant fools
Fascinating how this scholar of Jewish history spends 20 minutes talking about one 200 year Muslim dynasty, out of 1400 years of Muslim history that was harsh to everyone. This misplaced framing then comes into clear focus as he plunges into the present, where his interpretation of events is glaringly flawed and obvious for anyone to see.
If anyone ever listens to a deep seated Jew and his convoluted and warped mindset, then Boy you're being herded into the Abyss, along with them. people need to see beyond their version of events.
Obviously he is a scholiar. A lot of these losers try to pretend expertise (which they often have) but choose to mislead the people because they fetishise divisions and tribalism, because that’s what sells in a platform made in Silicon Valley with a Skinnerian business model
Harsh to everyone? Misplaced framing? No facts just slander and gibberish, a perfect example of an act of framing others
He clearly states that the animosity was not a 24/7 thing. For many decades or even a century, people would appear to be friendly and suddenly you have a pogrom resulting in a violent displacement. Quite often, we hear false narratives that the locals got along well with the Muslim invaders. That's not quite the case. The invaders need the cooperation and wealth of the local populace and so in order to establish control there is a long period of stabilization while the locals are harassed to convert and their religious places are systematically taken down.
Jews had a rich history in Germany as well. Until they did not. That's the idea of not being treated as equal
This credits, correctly for the most part, the very basic rights conceded to non-Muslim monotheists, such as the Zoroastrians, the Jews and Christians. It can't resist a dig at Christians (but, equally predictably, not at Zoroastrians and other monotheists recognised (at least some if not most of the time) by Moslem ruling powers. It fails to acknowledge ANY wrongdoing by the "Jews" explicitly. Everyone should attempt to give a balanced view. Especially, someone who is academically trained to a high level. No such attempt here! Which is, sadly, likely to incur yet more hostility from ill-wishers and those otherwise previously neutral or ill-disposed.
Who liberated Jerusalem from the Romans and welcomed the Jewish people back? I rest my case.
This guy is changing alot of history to fit zionist propaganda
The same ones who did 7Oct you mean?
Muslims Omer radia Allaho annho
@@FiveLiver76 years of occupation and land stealing
@@FiveLiver the best October
Right off the bat, the first information is wrong. Southern Spain was first invaded by the Ummayads, not the Muwahideen, who came about a hundred years later and really were fanatics, and whos fanaticism was an abberation! So this learned scholar, reduced the whole 600 period of Muslim rule in Spain to the Muwahideen rule of Spain that lasted from 1147 to 1162. As for the classifications in Muslim state and society, yes, it is true that Muslims were first class, but Christians and Jews were called the people of the book. Muslims believe that they are on right path to god while the people of the book are not, a common beliefe in most religions. However, Islam stipulated that the people of the book are to be safe for their lives and property as long as they pay a special tax to compensate for their not being conscripted; at the time wars were religious in nature. This is not to say that all was huncky-doory, but by the standards of the time the Muslim state was extreemely tolorant, and Jewish culture flourished in it more than it did anywhere else in history. Samuel ibn Naghrillah, was a Jewish grand wissier of Andalus (The Arabic name for Muslim Spain), something like a prime minister. I can go on and on and on and on. Well done Harvard and Yell!!
To them, history started when they started doing the right thing even tho everyone else was doing it decades before them. I also love it when they explain something f***ed up happened decades ago, they simply brush by saying that's how things happened in those time ... unless they're talking about Muslims, now they have to bring Muslims to todays standards while also ignoring the fact that jews flourish under Muslim rules in an era where jew were hunted like sheeps.
Read The Myth of the Andalusian Paradise by Dr. Dario Fernández-Morera.
@@grumpycrumbles7360 I know the book. It does'nt say anything different from this guy here. The Islamic civilization was not a liberal democracy. I wasn't arguing it was. It was a Muslim supremacist state, no doubt about it. However, by the standards of the time it was exceedingly tolerant. As for slavery in Islamic civilization, which was widespread and always condemnable, I would recommend that you read about it from the horrific case of the slave rebellion in Iraq to the slave rulers of the Mamluk state.
This is a very close topic to me for a number of reasons, but if I may add some of my own perspective as an Ultra unOrthodox Jew, because I deeply resonate with the notion of merging the 2 oceans, so to speak. I don't believe that Judaim, Islam and Christianity are entirely incompatible. As mentioned, in relation to the Jewish communities ability to enhance their service to G-d by exploring and cherry picking aspects of other cultures; the first names coming to my mind are Philo of Alexandria and Flavius Josephus. Personal/Ideological/Dogmatic opinions of these men aside, I believe that the work assigned to them from HaShem speaks for itself. I remember the first time I heard the term Hellenist Jew, and all of the beautiful imagines that flooded my mind at the time. I was not disappointed in the least. Thank You HaShem. But I want to bring this back to the Bible, specially Ezekiel 37, with relation to G-d's instructions for the future King, Moshiach, in that he will be a mix of both the bloodline of David, and Ephraim; reuniting Josef and Judah; while at the same time returning Israel/Judah to Judah/Israel. "For there shall be one king, not 2" The reason I bring this point up for consideration is the fact that Ephraimite Jews don't have a 'natural' Jewish mother, which, to me, appears as tho the Tribes of Josef are not unlike Great Uncle Ishmael, who, like Ephraim and Manassah, was blessed with an Egyptian mother. Granted, I need to dig more deeply into Talmud to see if we have a more detailed debate on the subject, but I don't believe that I am mistaken in believing that Ishmael is the Patriarch of the Arab Nations; but does that make him the father of Islam? I feel like I am jumping the gun even bringing this up, but it's better to jump and then land on my face then not jump at all, especially when I trust that G-d wouldn't have guided me to this video if it wasn't relevant to one degree or another. But I once observed a Rabbi correspond Islam is with Ismael, Judaism with Israel, and Christianity with Esav. I don't believe that I agree with this. My intuition, which holds as much weight as a soap bubble to perceptions that are not my own, tells me that the mystery of bridging the spiritual/philosphical/logical/religious gaps between Muslims and Jews is to recognize, that Egypt (Isis, the Queen of Heaven) is the Mother of Islam. Muslims recognize Patrimonial descent, more predominantly then Jews, there are exceptions; but this brings me back to my point of where the Lost Tribes of Josef are not matrilineal in nature, do to Isis being the the name of the Divine Feminine of the land of our birth. I don't entirely disagree with the statement that can't use our eyes to judge a ppl that we aren't. Don't speak on things you don't know. But on the other hand, what happens if we judge ourselves with their eyes. Sufa XIC Unbelievers I don't worship what you worship You don't worship what I worship I will never worship what you worship You will never worship what I worship. Your life is your religion, and mine is my own. I, personally, am not a fan of 'absolute' logic. Only G-d is absolute, and it is, in my opinion, folly to think that anything us impossible for Him/Her. What if you and I worshipped 2 forms of One G-d. 2 faces, so to speak. I am seeing the 9th circle of Hell, with a 3 headed Satan at the core. Christianity Judaism and Islam But where is the neutral middle ground? Perhaps it lies in the Torah of Jesus the Jewish Muslim (Maccabeus?) I know that this is ground that not all Jews are capable of traveling, but regardless of who unbeliever believe him to be, he was a Jew. When one falls, we all stumble; or so I was taught our Sages. What happens when a Jew observes Jesus as a Rabbi, not a savior. Only G-d saves. Even Jesus knew that. Don't tell anyone about me. Please. For I don't do anything. I am but a servant of G-d. Another tree in His Royal Forest. But at the same time, we taught talk about what divides, but we rarely speak on what unites us. I am also lumping Paganism/Wytchery into this, as the Pagan gods are servants/children of HaShem, like His/Her servants in physical form. We humans feed their egos, so of course they come to recognize that they have power over us, when we allow them to. But it's like Solomon said, we must Fear, Love and Adore G-d. I love You, HaShem. But this is where I stand at the moment, that real peace comes from the resurrection of the Lost Tribes of Josef and the marriage m/reunification of Egypt and Israel. That's just my 2 cents tho. I could feel G-d wanting me to reply to this because of how interesting, and relevant this was I to enjoy. Thank you, Rabbi, for sharing your insights.
Having listened to this monologue, a better title would be, "The Real History of Jews and Muslims in Spain and the Iberian Peninsula". Great lesson, though.
A Winston Chucrhill Quote, "Islam is as dangerous in a man as rabies in a dog".
The one who carpet bombed dresden in germany No wonder!
😂😂😂😂 Christianity did wonder in America ( north and South) Africa.
@@os-vp1hvof course Christianity change the Americas to the better...
@@samuelmithran5586 yes they did wonder in hiti, Caribbean, colombia, el Salvador, Mexico, Venusela, Brazil. Most of the Christian countries are terrorized by drugs, prostitution, criminals and anti social activities
This movement among the Jews is not new. From the days of Spartacus-Weishaupt to those of Karl Marx, and down to Trotsky this worldwide conspiracy for the overthrow of civilisation and for the reconstitution of society on the basis of arrested development, of envious malevolence. Churchill
GOD bless and protect Israel !
So sad different religions cannot live side by side ! So sad !!😞
Having grown up around a lot of Jews, first in Aspen and then CEDU/RMA (a Jewish run boarding school), I think that other derivative religionists feel inferior, even second-class, to Jews. I know, having been on the fringe of Jewish culture and having studied it to a fair level, that Jews come in all sorts and qualities, like every other group. However, for people who look at life only through the lens of religious dogma, Jewish culture must seem to be the touchstone against which all others must measure their validity. Time and again, apparently, they come up short, resulting in envy, which is followed by indignation, and finally by violence.😞
It's not that deep. Christian and Muslim holy books paint Jews in a very unflattering light, which is why Jews have historically faced violent persecution in the lands where these religions ruled. Jews living among Hindus, Buddhists, and various other far Eastern religions suffered little if ANY antisemitism for the simple reason that there was no pre-existing religious mandate against them among these other faith groups.
Nonsense. Christianity is a sect of Judaism ... that was forced out of the religion ... by the dominant Pharisee sect after 70 AD. Rabbis who rejected Jesus as Messiah & God ... made Judaism all about Jewish identity, nationalism with the Oral Torah being more important than the Torah. And Islam is a pagan religion created by a pagan Arab Man who copied & corrupted teachings from the Bible ... for his gods & idols .. and himself. Have you actually read what Allah commands Muslims to do to Christians & Jews? God promised Abram ... that he would be a father of Nations (Abraham) ... through the descendants of Issac & Jacob ... and Israel is suppose to be a light to the world .. & kingdom of priests sharing God & Messiah to all People ( not keep God to themselves). There are only 15 m Jews. There are over 2 billion Christians. And the world is completely screwed if there were NO Jews ... & .... NO Christians. This is all about freewill. To Follow & obey God (Father, Son, Spirit) or Man. There is only God. Meanwhile Satan will say Jesus is not the Son of God, and did not die on the Cross for your sings, and will promised the best sex in Heaven with white virgins ... if you murder, rape, pillage ... for Satan & his Prophet.
I know it might sound weird, but aspen isnt in the middle east.
@@alekssalkinrkcread the comment you replied to. It explainscwhy that hate is built into Christianity and Islam.
@@alekssalkinrkc I think there are case examples of Eastern parts of the world persecuting people for their foreign religious beliefs, such as the Zoroastrians persecuting Christians, within the Sassanid Empire (Iraq of which was a part) and the Japanese Empire (during which the entire Christian population was wiped out). There's no reason to think that Jews would have fared any better. Human nature is what it is, violent and factionalist.
Different groups always have issues even when they are the same religion and culture, look at civil wars, crime etc. This is inevitable. Be careful trying to pin everything on persecution as Jews. I say this as a Jewish woman but also as an evolutionary scientist. Most importantly for us to understand at this time is that Palestinians are actually 90% descendants of Jews who converted to Christianity and Islam. They are not 'recent Arab migrants' as we were taught. Both research by Israeli anthropologists and genetic research supports this. They have maintained a continuous presence on that land, unlike we diaspora Jews. The Egyptian caliph who converted the Jews in the seventh century simply left because the region was deemed benign. There was no populating with gulf Arab DNA. The Palestinians are almost indistinguishable from Mezrahim. The only difference is the Palestinians never left. It doesn't matter what the region was called when. This is why even though I support the idea of a safe self determining place for Jews, I cannot support the 1800s level of understanding of race upon which Zionism was built. It relies on denying the indigeniety of the rightful owners of the land, and it requires going against our scriptures. The promised land was never supposed to be forced by human hands.
Psalms 73:6 “Therefore pride compasseth them about as a chain; violence covereth them as a garment.”
لَا يُؤَاخِذُكُمُ ٱللَّهُ بِٱللَّغْوِ فِىٓ أَيْمَٰنِكُمْ وَلَٰكِن يُؤَاخِذُكُم بِمَا عَقَّدتُّمُ ٱلْأَيْمَٰنَ ۖ فَكَفَّٰرَتُهُۥٓ إِطْعَامُ عَشَرَةِ مَسَٰكِينَ مِنْ أَوْسَطِ مَا تُطْعِمُونَ أَهْلِيكُمْ أَوْ كِسْوَتُهُمْ أَوْ تَحْرِيرُ رَقَبَةٍ ۖ فَمَن لَّمْ يَجِدْ فَصِيَامُ ثَلَٰثَةِ أَيَّامٍ ۚ ذَٰلِكَ كَفَّٰرَةُ أَيْمَٰنِكُمْ إِذَا حَلَفْتُمْ ۚ وَٱحْفَظُوٓا۟ أَيْمَٰنَكُمْ ۚ كَذَٰلِكَ يُبَيِّنُ ٱللَّهُ لَكُمْ ءَايَٰتِهِۦ لَعَلَّكُمْ تَشْكُرُونَ , . ,
“Muslims in Spain around 950 AD were not tolerant to Jews compared to the West” yet Muslims appointed Jew to high positions. A very subjective analysis.
😂😂😂Lol strange that's exactly what you are doing all over Europe you muslimmm, always saying you are kot traître correctly for your beliefs, but strange we also have lot of muslimmm in very high places in governments, politics, economy etc... 😂😂😂
give the timeframes for those two statements
Even Mohammed had a Jewish wife
They were still 2nd citizens...did you listen to the lecture at all?
What high positions? Being a baker in a shop?
Most of this nonsense, that non muslims paid killer taxes. A Muslim has to pay zakat a wealth tax of 2.5% -- jizya tax for non Muslims , the rate was ten dirhams per year "in the time of the Prophet", this amounted to only "the expenses of an average family for ten days".
The Dhimma (third class citizens) paid the Jizya. The Islamic economy was based on taxing the unbelievers in their own occupied countries. That's why when you get to 90% Muslim population everything turns to...
He slandered “formal Islamic law” and didn't give a single citation, even mistranslated, from Qur'an or Sunnah or Exegeses of major classical scholars. Be wary of even Islamic scholars who make claims disputed by other scholars about Islamic law with zero citations, let alone a non-Muslim non-scholar of Islam; Muslims can see his baseless claims for what they are, but I have a feeling we're not his target audience. I was ready to hear an alternative take on the history, but when he ventured into Islamic law, he exposed himself to anyone that knows even a little about it.
I am a Christian and I remind Jewish friends not to be too comfortable, because you cannot know when your accepting and friendly neighbors will turn on you. I really didn't think it would happen in my lifetime, but here it is. I love Jewish people and I don't believe they are all angels, but I do not believe they are hated for their behavior, or anything that could be called a good reason. As much as I wish it were not true, hate seems to keep Jews Jewish. It breaks my heart to think it so.
Interesting..jews believe jesus is in boiling water
They are hated because of the racial supremacist beliefs and Zionism. You better ask somebody and stop being naive.
It is like a sibling rivalry. According to the Old Testament or torah. Muslims feel that they are not the "chosen" people, but as a Christian, I think God loves all. However, the current Hamas attack was not just or fair. Those who wage wars first are at fault.
I’m Muslim. And I always was taught Muslims were relatively tolerant to others, especially when compared to Christians with their crusades, inquisition, colonialism, etc. I have a couple comments that I would love a serious response to…Regarding forced conversations: 1) Islam took over the Levant, Egypt, etc. fairly early on. Yet it took hundreds of years before they were majority Muslim. Which raises the question, if they did forced conversion/explusion, why did it take so long? Spain was cleansed of Jews and Muslims fairly quick. 2) how much was the jizya tax and how did that compare to the amounts the pre Islamic rulers taxed people? I suspect it was less of a burden that the status quo, which is another reason people may have voluntarily chosen Islam. 3) one reason I was quoted that people were not forced to convert was related to the jizya. The rulers didn’t force the people to convert, not out of conviction to text, rather, it would reduce the amount they could collect from people. So it could be from greed that they preferred people not to convert. But it still dispels the forced conversion narrative. 4) From what I know, the greatest rabbi of all time, the ram bam, came from the Islamic golden age and even systematized Judaism borrowing from the customization taking place within Islamic law at the time. I even heard that he was the physician to Saladin. If true, how would a Jew be trusted to be the physician to the Islamic ruler? How would the greatest mind emerge in an environment of persecution? Knowledge requires time and resources. Very difficult in a persecutory environment, especially producing a genius polymath like the ram bam. Lastly, I do concede that under Islamic law, Islam came to rule, not follow. So the symbols, buildings, etc. would prioritize Islam over others. But this is normal, especially in a pre nation state world. Under secularism, it seems hard to understand, but I doubt any historian would think it was not normal empire behavior.
Oh dude, don’t go hard on him. He obviously wants to divide people because that’s his favorite fetish, don’t ruin the fun for him like that come on (we know he is obviously framing history from isolated cases like a scholiar)
@@daviddonkiv8112 And the ignorant will never learn, because they won't listen, and cannot see. FYI: The tax for being a non-muslim still exists.
@@user-fe7mg5ot9z In where loser?
Religion of peace😅
@@joblakelisbon Yes to Religion of Peace🌙 as opposed to Religion of War = ✡️ = ✝️!
Perhaps this man can shed some light on the plight of Palestinian Muslims living in Israel under Jewish State
Funny you should ask - all Israeli citizens are equal under the law. Arab judges lawyers, doctors, police, etc.
@@paulberman7722I always hear Israelis referring to Israel as the Jewish state. If everybody is truly equal under Israeli state, why would antizionism be equal to antisemitism (a now famous talking point) ? How about those Israeli Arabs?
Ii ține cineva forțați în Israel????
Establishing illegal settlements (according to international law - Oslow accord) and murdering ~500 civilians per year in the West Bank where there is no Hamas or any military at all; you don't consider them as crimes!?! Typical Jews. Polite liars.
They seem to be doing rather well. Equal rights, etc, as you know. Now under Hamas, in the Palestinian territory.. well that's another question.
15:25 live and let learn. But keep to yourself as a value you chose to enrich in your heritage. If irrelevant to the time you are exposed to, than cast out or run from in the most polite manner, as to not inflate oppression to the kind.
Would the Hellenistic period be contrary to your belief on how Jews in the past adapt in an innovative way to other societies and religions? It seems that many Jews bought into Hellenism 100% that ultimately put pressure on other non complying Jews to conform.
Don't forget what he said at the beginning of the video. He's trained.
As apposed to all the uneducated out there running their mouths spouting satanic chants over and over again like the sheep they are
It was a rather curious comment. How long did it take, I wonder?
We Turks saved jews many times in history, read first
I can scarcely begin to really grasp how on earth any of us really managed to survive ( not to mention the Roma & Sinti, who’ve suffered an open hatred & visceral hate almost everywhere in Europe & the Islamic world that, now, Jews are also once again being exposed to, after a ‘ hiatus ‘ of some 70 years ). My family were virtually wiped out, utterly annihilated, in our homes in Courland & Belarus. I often feel pangs of guilt for being the descendent of one of three brothers who managed to escape the Latvian ‘trawniki’ types & the einsatzgruppen.
you were allowed to live And after what you did amalkites You think you have any right to claim high ground Your jews attacked prophet saw As long as he lived the fact we even let you live is ironic Where did you flee to when europe was gassing you Towards us Where did your failure bring to you back to us
As always, notions like the golden age of Moslem Spain are exaggerated and one sided, thanks for setting the record straight! Historians know more about classical Greece than they know about post-Roman North Africa. My grandfather, born in Mogador, Morocco, in 1895, used to tell me about the city of Ofran, on the caravan route to Timbuktu in the Atlas Mountains. There was a legend that a remote ancestor, Judah Afriat, was ordered to convert to Islam or be burned at the stake. He refused to convert and he and 50 followers were committed to the flames. There's no historical background in the sense of a date. But, before the burning, there seems to have been a relatively good relationship between the predominantly Jewish inhabitants of Ofran and their Moslem overlords. In my grandfather's time there also seems to have been a fairly cozy relationship, ending with the founding of Israel. It's a mystery how Ofran, which seems to have been a remnant of the Roman province of Mauretania Tingitana, ended up being taken over by the Moors, perhaps at the very beginning of the Moroccan kingdom. It must have been a bloodless takeover.
When it is pointed out how Jews and Muslims have gotten along just fine in the past, it should be pointed out that Jews as well as Christian, were second class citizens in Muslim communities They got along, simply becus what was the alternative? Not to mention, the slave trade was alive and well in these Muslim countries too.
What was the alternative? How about Europe's way pogroms, holocaust?
Jews participated in the slave trade as well.... And the "peace" which is much vaunted is a peace in indifference, it wasn't exclusive to Jews but to all communities living under the rule of Islam, meaning the dormant animosity did not exist solely towards Jews but was common between all other communities. Although compared to what was happening in Christian Europe, the Jews definitely had it better. Modern anti-semitism emerged in Christian Europe, after all.
@@Klopp2543 why are muslims do pogroms and seek another holocaust today?
I don’t think there are second class in Islam. But surprise me in something that can proof that in islamic law.
@@shpigenzig - Then you need to study Islam a bit more deeply. Start with the terms "dhimmi" and "dhimmitude."
I also would like to ask a question, who is a Jew? What makes you Jewish? Is it a religion? Is it an ethnic group? If it is a religion, anybody that converts is a Jew. So descendants of the people who were actually doing the persecuting could now be Jewish by conversion. If its an ethnicity, then it comes down to DNA. But then the Palestinians are closer to original Jewish people from middle east than any Jew from Europe, because they really are probably just Canaanites who took up Judaism when it came, and Christianity when it came, and Islam when it came. And its ridiculous to think hundreds of thousands of Jews were expelled from there by the Romans. If that is so there would be historical records from other areas of mass migration of peoples which will disrupt societies. It was probably only the elite who had to leave. And the peasant Jews most likely stayed as someone had to work the farms. And we call them Palestinians now. But again, who is a Jew really? Genetics or Belief?
I do not read in the New Testament anywhere where it tells me that as a Christian I am to be 'on top'. No where is there direction that I am to be the cream of the crop but I am to show love and service to all humankind
History is gonna have to disagree with you lol
Jews and Christians as "people of the book," equal with all others in the sight of God. Musa bin Maimoon (1135-1204) wrote his "Daleel al-Ha'ereen" in Arabic. This great Arab-Jewish intellectual and philosopher is known in the West as Maimonides, author of "The Guide to the Perplexed." Sultan Bayezid II sent Kemal Reis to save the Sephardic Jews of Spain from the Spanish Inquisition in 1492 and granted them permission to settle in the Ottoman Empire. 12th century and continuing for hundreds of years, the Inquisition is infamous for the severity of its tortures and its persecution of Jews and Muslims. Its worst manifestation was in Spain, where the Spanish Inquisition was a dominant force for more than 200 years, resulting in some 32,000 executions. Muslim sultan of the Ottoman Empire sent ships to Spanish ports to rescue the 100,000 to 200,000 expelled Jews. They were welcomed in Muslim lands in North Africa, Egypt and the Middle East as brothers in monotheism. The Jewish community in Turkey is planning many celebrations this year to express its appreciation for the rescue efforts of their Muslim brothers, who saved them from certain death.
How many Jews did the prophet kill/exile in Medina??? How many Christians were enslaved in Al-Andalus? Yes we are the religion of the book. You are the religion of the sword.
Equal in the side of God but still have to pay double taxation because they were second-class citizens.
'People of the book' is an Islamic invention.
King David Hotel?
Your comment is booming 😂 🤣😅
The Jews where largely tolerated in Muslim world as long as they accept a lower status to the Muslim but all that ended with the creation of the state of Israel because the state of Israel represented a challenge to that lower status that Islam has placed them in this is fundamentaly why they are in rage
If that is the case than that challenge is a huge failure as it proves the Jewish "minorities" to do worse in 100 years of power compared to the most intolerant periods of Muslim history. In other words....How do you think a historian will talk about "Muslims under Jewish rule" a thousand years from now? We can imagine the answer unfortunately...
You all endorse what Christopher Hitchens said. "God is not Great" and "Religion poisons everything". You are all complicit.
Excellent Presentation,Style Truth and Charismatic sensibility.🎉😊❤
Here is a numerical fact. In Europe prior to world war 2 there were 10 million Jews. At the same time in Islamic lands there were less than 1 million total. So, it’s very clear which religion was more tolerant long term.
The Jews acc decided to go to Europe because of the collapsing economy of the Muslim world, the followed the money believing that the pagan Christian’s had abandoned their pathetic religion but instead were met with the full force of Christian antisemitism
15.6 million jews worldwide beforehand. You wouldn't know a verifiable fact if it slapped you in your pseudo-intellectual head. And if the Ottoman Empire didn't take in Jewish refugees during the Spanish Inquisition while the Sultan shamed the Pope for such barbarity... it would've been less than half of that in Europe. How many Jews lived outside of Europe before the Ottoman Empire collapsed by mandate of the anti-semitic world leaders after WW1?
Hitler was fond of islam
So? What's your logic? Initially Jews were divided equally between Muslim and Christian lands hence 10 Million Jews in Europe means Christians were more tolerant and only fell into insanity called holocaust?
That does not make sense. Unrelated.
Nothing in Christianity actually dictates that others are to be underneath us. There is thus room for social progress which occurred with the enlightenment. Can Islam allow for an enlightenment? Not really. The only it could happen is if myslims actively ignore their own teachings.
Wouldn't that apply to all religions..... Majority choose what to ignore including Christians.
@@consensualcode9750 Not all religions are equal and the same. Christ pointed out the moral righteousness of others not of the Christian faith and their possibility of actual being more righteous than the "faithful" ("The Good Samaritan") and allows for the seperation of the church and the state ("Give unto Caeser what is Caeser's, give unto God what is God's") thus creating the possibility of secular liberal democracies in which people of other religions (or atheists, agnostics etc) can be accorded full and equal status. This is not so with Islam, which is a totalitarian/authoritarian system where the church and the state are one and the same and where followers of other religions can only hope to gain second-class "dhimmi" status.
Enlightenment was a rejection of Christianity and the church stop lying. The enlightenment was a secular movement based on rationality and individualism nothing to do with the dark ages of church rule
@@consensualcode9750 my point is, Christianity doesn't really lay down a lot of law in the New Testament, just basic things centered on love mostly, which leaves a ton of room open for social progress.
@@3rdEyeWide Everybody knows that "liberal democracies fantasy" does not exist in this world
Sorry, but you seem to have forgotten the Crusades (1095). Meanwhile, back in merry old England, Clifford's Tower. Later, slightly south, the Inquisition, which led thousands to flee Spain for the Ottoman Empire.
Great quick lecture about the basic intolerance of muslim religious rules. A further and more detailed story is given by Simon Sebag Montefiore in his book: Jerusalem, a biography. Thanks for sharing!!
Tovia Singer must watch this
That man sold out long ago
@@soun6589 He says that Jews had good life under Muslim rule and they lived better than most Muslims.
@@soun6589he just hates christians often, criticizing christianity is ok he is just harming his own people indirectly
What does tavia Singer have to do with any of this please?
@@dovgoldstein3755 he is always praising the Muslims rulers of old
I never knew Spain had a rich history between muslims and the Jewish. Of course this is something that could only be tried in a Western liberal society.
This music background distracts bc it doesn’t match the subject. In this case, no music, please
Everybody brings up Morocco but no body talks about the genocides the “Blue turbans” or the state of being a “Dhimmi” ….
What does the Torah say about Non Jews and Jews in relation to rights?
rights to what?
@@lesweizman388 the chap mentioned in Islam - the law discriminates between a Muslim and a non Muslim in terms of rights - I just wanted to know what the Torab says on the same topic? After all, what it says and what is practically done arnt always the same.
Exactly, explain the status of the goyim
@zer0875 the islamic countries make it their fundamental concern to live by islam. Jews and Christians don't do this. That is why the text of the Quran is far more important than the text of the torah
@@JBHACKSAWLoL ask the Palestinians
Love intelligent, knowledgeable humans. 🙂
quite a rare thing in the modern world
Except this one wasn't anything of the kind, select cherry picked skewed narrative curated to seek sympathy and recreate a favourable understanding. we all need to see the real truth by conducting independent critical peer reviewed evidence based research, this wasn't it. a fundamentally flawed and disproportionate short thesis on mostly unrealistic historical events.
Best book I’ve ever read on Jews and Christian’s under Islamic rule was ‘The Third Choice’ by Mark Durie.
"Every honest Jew who knows the history of his people cannot but feel a deep sense of gratitude to Islam, which has protected the Jews for fifty generations, while the Christian world persecuted the Jews and tried many times "by the sword" to get them to abandon their faith." - Uri Avnery, Zionist, Journalist, Politician, Activist (Jewish intellectual) Because he lived through the Holocaust. He knew the truth. After this claim, he was targeted for assassination by Israelis.
This man's thinking is rather confused.
Muslims “historians” really do cling to this one. Thank you for shedding light on it, and I’m sure they’ll be open to new information that isn’t from a mosque /s
We do learn better than this old man... We do learn how Moslem save jews from Roman christ atrocities. We do learn how to welcome jews during the West christ holocoust... Unfortunately; Jews just like their anchestor, betraying everything😂😂😂
It's not just Muslims who push it, this is the politically correct history of the left.
Why didn't the Jewish Intellects and statesmen form a country before 1945.............I'm puzzled
Because we wouldn’t let them. The British government was sympathetic through lobbying and granted them a state.
@@Kosovar_Chicken We ( meaning planet earth) i'm researching the diaspora's. Plenty of time to declare before 1948......Many countries, Iraq, The Roman Empire, Medieval Europe, etc......what kept them from declaring a state instead of immigrating to all these countries and then dealing with expulsions and pogroms.
@@Kosovar_Chicken The United Nations granted the Jews a state. Britain had given up trying to reconcile the Muslims and Jews.
They had Israel in BC but they were driven out by the Ottoman Empire. They returned after WW2 and then were attacked by their neighbours there.
@@ksmax6310 I'm not taking about a certain period of the Ottoman Empire. Even with the expulsion of the Sephardic Jews and Jews within the timeframe, rich families and affluent Jewish families should of began the process of an independent state for the the Jewish people . Many of these narratives don't make sense. We can talk about the German Jews as well. How wealthy were they and what was the reason to move to all these countries and not form a state for your own people......
Well-spoken lecture, it is good to hear someone talk about the nuances of Al-Andalus rather than spread the myth.
So why were some Jewish scholars made judges and military commanders in Spain? What does Maimonides have to say about this?
Ssshhs, you're not allowed to say that lol
He actually explained that. They weren't official commanders. You have to pay attention and not cut out what you don't want to hear.
Equals don’t need to pay a dhimini tax.
dhimmi was actually less then zakat
What do you reckon they should pay for being exempt from conscription?
And they didn't have to pay if they couldn't afford it
@@GazaawarenessSo why 1033 Fez massacre happened even after they pay you ?
@@GazaawarenessNo Hadith or any source in Quran says Jizya has a cap. No early scholar ever said such a thing, either. We can see in Quran, the Jews just outside Khaybar were taxed 50% of their crops, and we know Muslims converted most of the Coptic Christian Egyptians by raising Jizya tax near 50%. Lies
I am reading the life of Maimonides by Alberto Manguel. It describes the living conditions for Jews under the Arabs & then the Almoravids & the Almohads who were African muslims. It is a great read.
Thank you for this brilliant lecture: you are 100% right. When the Greek war of independence started it was a religious war. That was the way people understood their universe in 1821 & that is why the Greeks wanted to reconquer Constantinople. Could you please compare the life of Jews in the Polish-Lithuanian Empire to their life under the Umayyads in Iberia.
Those who say during WW2, Muslims served in the allied forces that fought the Nazis, and deserve respect for that. Some did, and deserve respect, but they were less than 10% of the troops that fought the German military Nazi machine. Many Muslim soliders committed brutal sexual violence against European women and men during WW2, and deserved punishment. For instance, Moroccan soliders raped men, women, and children, in Italy ,when they were part of the allied forces that invaded Southern Italy .No other allied forces did this, even in war, against civilian populations
Good joke
That’s propaganda
It was a french order
😂😂
@@ZenatiOmar No it wasn't. It is predominantly something that wasn't even made public or known until quite recently, and it was almost an entirely a spontaneous series of acts by a lot of Muslim troops against non Muslims in Europe, the Far East ,and other areas of conflict where Muslims fought the easiest War known to man, against innocent civilian men, wome, and children.
- Judaism is an ethno religion - Christianity is a political religion - Islam is a universal religion
if we had at least 500K jews in every arab countries we will have a propserous region , it iwll never happen now but it will in the future i am an arab muslim and i love jewish people !!!
Andrew Bostoms the Legacy of Islamic Antisemitism is a must read.
Thank you. As a non-Jewish atheist, also a mediaevalist by training, I found this extraordinarily interesting. The claimed virtues of the 'Golden Age' have always seemed exaggerated and greatly oversimplified to me. Given your remarks about the 'friendships' between Palestinian Muslims and the Jews whom they nonetheless massacred on Oct. 7th, is there any way for the wider world to safely deal with Islam both politically and socially?
Oct7 Israel has a law that every person of age has to serve in military And once a soldier always soldier So called massacre was the attack on reserved soldiers not civilians This defense of civilians can only be applied when in countries where mandatory military service is not must Say america
Have you ever read a history book, or do you have amnesia of pre oct 7?
@@Antimisinfo Hello. The reference to being trained as a medievalist implies some familiarity with history books. Feel free if you want to explain your point re pre Oct 7th.
@GamerID-gx5uv based on your logic that means all children under hamas rule are on a jihad mission and we how little children are training in military uniforms so that means when Israel bombs Gaza and children get killed its totally fine because they are part of Hamas and are also the enemy
@@haroldwood1394 well, you might be a « medievalist » but that doesn’t make you knowledgeable about current events in specific parts of the world outside your own region. your statements make you sound completely ignorant of history, you’re stripping the events of any context and making it sound like they « massacred » them on oct 7th for the plain fact that they were jews, these are colon izers hello?! Like should they go on and give them a hug and be all lovey dovey when these land snatchers have been massacring them for 75+ years?
On number of occasions Prof Woolf offered evidence that directly contradicted his own proposition that 'convivencia' was a myth. Furthermore the introduction of Iraqi in the 1940s, and Israel on Oct 7th, into his argument are topics completely unconnected to Medieval Spain. Despite speaking with confidence and authority on the subject Prof Woolf's ideas however just don't add up.
But you literally offered evidence in the form of a wikipedia article elsewhere. When the issue is evidenced by sources that actually lived the status as a diminished people, youre trying to make comparison to an article anyone can edit.
he didn't say anything that contradicts. he said that it was a myth that jews christians and muslims lived peacefully. in reality, at the drop of a dime, the muslims would turn on the jews and massacre them. happened many many times.
I started to listen but it soon became clear that he was talking through his hat.
Great video. Sometimes history is complicated.
The Roman Pagan church shouldn't be conflated with Christians, we had a REFORMATION for a reason. The Jews and the Arabs will in the end, understand that Jesus is LORD and everything He said is the Truth. God bless both Jew and Arab alike. May God lead you in ALL Truth. Amen.
Tell me who compiled the new testament scriptures together to form the Holy Bible we have today? Everyone here would love to see what you write.
Brillante Aufklärung. 🙏✡🙏
More like prop aganda
Sefardic Ladino Sarajevo Ottoman Empire . Big community.
What you say about Yosef Ha-Nagid is utterly false. He was accused of poisoning and killing King Badis's son Bullugin. In response he went into hiding and sent messages to Ibn Sumadih from the rival Taifa kingdom of Almeria that he would open the gates of Granada to his army. This is a far different picture from what you paint of him just being a man of ambition which led to his downfall. Him and his father viewed themselves as potential messianic figures desiring to be a prophet-king of the Jews in the region. Some Jews even believed that Shmuel might be the Messiah. The ambition and actions to depose the king were there. The pogrom that happened in response is bad enough on its own as collective punishment. It doesn't require you downplaying and lying about the pretext for it.
Did "Israel" aka. Yacob - kill Elohim, or maybe she left Yacob. One thing is writen; "Enoch walked with Elohim; then he was gone because Elohim took him." You can't have 2 gods! - Choose wisely. " 5:18 When Jared was 162 years old, he became the father of Enoch. 5:19 After he became the father of Enoch, Jared lived 800 years and had other sons and daughters. 5:20 Jared lived a total of 962 years; then he died. 5:21 When Enoch was 65 years old, he became the father of Methuselah. 5:22 After he became the father of Methuselah, Enoch walked with Elohim for 300 years and had other sons and daughters. 5:23 Enoch lived a total of 365 years. 5:24 Enoch walked with Elohim; then he was gone because Elohim took him. "
Sources and references please
Fabricated and embellished, as per usual.
Which claim do you want a source for? I will try and provide
Study and read, lazy man
@@mbmusic5970 that it's islamic lawfulness to discriminate against Jews or Christians.
@@thepresident1971 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dhimmi
We are in the 21st century now. Freud concluded that European antisemitism reduced to the tradition of circumcision called MGM now. Ancient Greeks considered ancient Jews barbaric and primitive because of this. This is exactly what’s going on today. Both Jews and Muslims practice MGM. But Jews consider Muslims primitive because they also practice FGM, kill homosexuals, and still have slaves. These are critical measures of how some societies behave, and what traditions are to be rejected by civilized societies. We are still in a civilizational war but after 2000 years of interaction in Europe Israelis share more values with The West than do other countries in the Middle East. Our challenge is to define human rights and apply them to everyone. Don't hold your breath.
It's way deeper than that. To know the truth and facts you should read the islamic doctrines aka the quran and hadiths . You would learn how jews and Christians were treated from 7th century.
According to Dr. Peterson, Freud believed that the antedote to communism is Christianity. So there is utility in religion.
@@bluej6127 I’m not disputing this at all. I’m just pointing out the similarity regarding the opinion of the Israelis towards the Palestinians as intact Europeans had towards Jews. We all have evolved brains that developed stories within their tribes. I call it the Mandelbrot of narratives against “the other.”
Shalom Brother, No! Some Muslims Believe that it's OK to Marry their First Cousins & You can only get away with that a Couple of Times before Things Start to go Horribly Wrong, just Look at the State of some of the Muslim Societies Nowadays, there so Aggressive & Violent, that should Tell You all You need to know. Praise, Glory & Blessings be upon Our El Shada in the Name of the Ruach Ha-kodesh & the Bar-adi Adoni Yeshua Hamashiach, Amen.
What a nonsense... FGM and having slaves is also allowed in jewish and christian Scripture (if you just believe in the holy scriptures, not the manmade authorities, which teaches against it and mixed that with unallowed nonsense). The jewish faith talks always about having slaves as a normal thing, or having many wives, for example David had more than 400 wives, some of them were normal women, others were slaves... Our messiah also told a parable with 10 virgin brides waiting for their husband (One husband with 10 virgins). He commanded slaves also to make a good service to their Owner, for glorifiying the faith and forbid them to try to become free. Jewish bible said, if you choose a slave, he must serve you for 7 years. After that he has the choose to become free. If he or she doesnt want to become free, we should make a ring in her nose, and then that human is slave his or her whole life. Intercourse with the female slave is also allowed in that case, because she is property to his owner. FGM isnt allowed? What a nonsense. Its a good thing. Think what the jewish messiah in the bible was saying in Matthew 18:8. Its a honorable practise, if you are truly afraid of going to hell. The modern society is against all like that, because they hate G'd and they wants to live their unrighteousness life, without consequences, for that G'd cursed them and made them act, think and feel dishonorable. They have no living heart. its like a stone in their breast. For me its a good idea and for people who are poor or whoever wants it, its a good way. The problem to the world is not such a nonsense. Against such things we shouldnt fight. We should fight against all Lawlessness, Deeds against the Thora, and Atheism. I disagree with the Quran not because its harder to christianity, but because the laws are to liberal, because the right understanded Bible, which commands us to keep the thora and the Laws of Messiah King at the same time, are harder than Quran alone. But they are true and I understand their deep meaning and sometimes I need to understand much more, about the Holy Scripture. Christianity today is exactly the opposite to the real jewish teachings of the New Testament, so you cannot understand what I mean if I say that book is much more harder then you think.
My biggest issue is how the muslims try to whitewash the Granada massacre. Also how they ethnically cleansed all Jews after the 48 war.
Superficial analysis A Jew served as Iraq's Finance Minister in the 20s when Jews served most prominently in Iraq govt's civil service. Analyst made no mention of Sunni vs. Shia in Iraq where Jews many well off resided cordially with Sunni but not with Shia.
In Palestanian history.. Muslims and Christians were living with peace, prosperity, and harmony but Zionist had problems with everyone.
How many Jews are left in Iraqi? I know there are about 1.8 million Muslims Living in Israel. More than 10 percent of the population
Actually its the opposite, minorities are safer under Shia rather than Sunni rule.
@@lawren7615 how many Hindus are left in Afghanistan or Pakistan? It’s not just Judaism it’s any religion
@bunjijumper5345 As a Christian, I agree with everything you say. Christians in the ME and anywhere where they're a minority, say that the Shia are decent people. Shia have protected Christians at a cost to their own lives. However in Iraq, Saddam had an ok relationship with Christians. His deputy and friend, was a Christian called Tariq Aziz. Even Christians in Iraq and Syria, were in govt. And in both countries Shias treat minorities well.
No offense Rabbi but you forgot to mention that Islam is far more tolerant the both Christian and Jews! Yes Islam maintained dominance but this was crucial in that period. In the time of Medina (Yathribe) Muslims and Jews were under one constitution and were considered 1 Ummah (family). In the period you discuss in your video Muslims were a very small percentage of the community and hand to maintain order as they see fit. The situation of the matter dictates what needs to be done. Islam is a principled religion and must always act justly.
“Islam is far more tolerant than Christians and Jews” Oh really, please name one example in today’s day and age. Do enlighten us Thanks
“In the time of Medina” - that’s when our holy prophet ﷺ order his companions to have sex slaves and rape married women
How many je ws live in medina now?
@@dogbert52 “plenty” because islam is such a tolerant xxxx.
Depended on the rulers. Emperor Charlemagne was quite tolerant of Jews and placed them in high positions. The Netherland is another good example. Spinoza was excommunicated by his fellow Jews not Christians.
This was a great story documentary put together. He was neutral and what he said and History does not lie, but you know what? This is? The 21st century and I've always said it doesn't matter if it's Judah, isn't Christianity? Or Islam when you come and stop believing that your God is telling you that this is the way it has to be. And I'm not against religion and you mix it with politics. This is where everything becomes dangerous, so all 3 suffers. The juice, the Christians and the muscles that want to live in peace with each other. Then you have these other articles. That actually believe, like I said, no matter what religion that somehow guess I'm a command this is the way I supposed to be and this becomes dangerous.
Limpieza de sangre (spanish) a.k.a. Limpeza de sangue (portuguese) literally "Cleanliness of blood" and meaning "blood purity", was a racially discriminatory term used in the Catholic-Christian Spanish and Portuguese Empires in the early modern period to refer to those who were considered to be Old Christians by virtue of not having Muslim, Jewish, Romani (Gypsy), Agote (a French-Basque etnicity in the spanish region of Navarra) Ancestors. In both empires, the term played a major role in discrimination against suspected crypto-Jews or crypto Muslims. Over the years it manifested into laws which excluded New Christians from almost every part of society. In Spain's American Colonies, it helped define the catholic-christian "casta system" and was expanded to include those who were not of Indigenous or African descent. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Limpieza_de_sangre
I wonder what he says about Palestinian under Jewish government
He speaks about this in the first third of the video
Anyone can see and feel that he is not true to himself.
Really? Because he’s historically accurate in so much is whathe’s saying
Don't deny this, everyone knows about islamic law for non-muslims
Observe the nose rubs and scratching of the face. In body language, this is often associated with dishonesty.
Correct. He's not an honest "historian". Karen Armstrong proves him wrong
MusIim, your religion has TAQIYYA TAWRIYA KITMAN MARUNA 😂 you are all not true to anyone even yourselves. Hayawanat kol hum
The Christians in Spain were also dhimmis and treated appallingly.
I like this man's lesson. But, as someone who studied fiqh (Islamic Jurispedence {sorry, English ain't my first language}) since my teenage years, I think his ellaboration on dzimmi laws are not holistic enough. You see, in a tassawufi (non-doctrinal spiritual) and haqiqi (Essential Truths), there is no other religion than Fitrah (Innate Human Nature. Sounds very Platonism, no?). Therefore, as most of my senior Javanese Kyai (village holy men, Nyai if female) would pass judgement, the jizya' is a worldly illusion and too abstract to impose by any government and/or governing bodies. This is coming from someone brought up in Indonesian, particularly Traditional Javanese, Sunni-Syafi'i scholastic background who eventually converted (and still is) a Vajrayana Buddhist. Shalomalaikhem. 🙏
And yet the jiziyah was imposed very early on in Islam. You can say something very off worldly but the reality is people were enslaved, oppressed, made second class citizens and were taxed for being a different religion. And this was all in the Islamic holy book.
@@maverick7291 and isn't a human's (God-given, mind you in this context) right to cherrypick whatever they wish from a holy book, regardless of their religious identity?
@@gibrannicholau3447 in Christianity you would have to ignore the entire new testament (the teachings of Jesus Christ)and cherry pick out of context the old testament to justify war or violence. In Islam you have to remove most of the quaran to justify peace. In fact the Muslims already did that by mix the chronological order of all the suras. Because of you put them in chronological order, it makes Mohammed look at the beginning as a harsh and conflicted but non violent preacher , to a sex slave owning warlord with violence and conquered in the name of Mohammed, I mean Allah. Muslims response for the changing of the order of events in the quaran .. it's Allah's will. But you know if you have any critical thinking that if you put this in chronological order Mohammed would look evil and that tolerance of other religions would be even more clear that it's an illusion and a joke. That's the difference.
@@maverick7291 then it boils down to the believer. To be an absolute predeterminist or not. And what does the Believer's Heart really holds to be True. And that, my friend, is not something to give validation on any real world war. Saddhu, Tat Hastu.
@@gibrannicholau3447 when a religion in its core text shows how to not only gain followers through mafia "protection" taxes and brainwashing(fun fact: quaran is made up of 90% repetitive verses, and the book is already smaller in terms of amount of words to the old or new testament of the Bible) plus it imposed harsh penalties on people who leave Islam, then it is no longer down to the believer as the freedom of choice to believe in the religion is removed from them. It is self evident in Muslim majority countries to various degrees of cult like mentality to not only stop other religions from expanding but to stop anyone who no longer wishes to leave islam. Most of those countries don't let new churches to be built, or the churches that are there cannot be repaired or maintained. Or a Muslim man can marry a non Muslim woman, but a non Muslim man cannot marry a Muslim woman since usually the children would take the faith of the father by tradition. The freedom to criticize the religion is banned, strict bans on foods and alcohols, restrictions on women how they dress and act , but men are allowed alot more freedoms because... Allah. Not to mention oppression on other types of minorities such as homosexuals, which even if we might not like what they do should not be justification for fines, imprisonment or in some cases death. Because of Christian Western powers, these countries have been forced to remove or reduce other practices I didn't mention above but were prevalent almost up to now, such as slavery, doing jiziyah and making non Muslims second class citizens. Which in Pakistan is still very much prevalent. So no, it does not boil down to the believer because the religion of Islam is made such that the believer has no choice but to believe or be quiet for fear of reprocussions. You yourself said you are now a Buddhist but how open are you to strangers in your region to talk about religion and what you believe in without fear of reprocussions. You know that in a majority Muslim country, that it isn't so easy, even if it's very liberal. At worse in a Christian majority country if you tell someone in a traditional small village you're not Christian, they will probably tell you they'll pray for you and go on their merry way. What would a Muslim in a small traditional village do and be honest. I don't say wont care because we all know that's would not be true.
Thankfully he begins truthfully by saying it is his 'considered opinion' that all previous historical & verifiable references to the good treatment of Jews in (pre-1900) Muslim lands - is a fantasy! Since he gives none - I can suggest some references for this great opinion : Bibi Netanyahu, Hasabara & the JLI. 😅
It is a fantasy because they were always Dhimmis under Muslim rule. As in real "Apartheid". Real Jim Crow.
Very superficial critique. There is entry of literature retrospectively and from the times to validate his points. You should be ashamed of yourself an aren't worth any further discussion
You are not giving any quotes,mixing fiction with facts lol