AI Generated Alternate History | What if Rome Never Fell?
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This is an alternate history video generated by ChatGPT and narrated by Elevenlabs best attempt at imitating my voice. The topic is what if the Roman Empire never fell, but survived till the present, influencing world politics throughout the centuries.
2:56 Rome abandons its reliance on Germanic mercenaries by relying on Germanic mercenaries
It basically just said mercenary in another way
Yeah, I can't say it's being too reasonable there lol. Although I would like to mention you can get better explanations out of it by giving follow-up promts. Brainstorming options with it and leading it down a certain road. But that wasn't the purpose of this video, I tried to guide it as little as possible to make it a truly AI generated video.
@@Neatling Please consider making videos on What if the Indo-European Migrations to Europe never happened? and What if the Late Bronze Age Collapse never happened? also What if the Nile river never existed at all? And what if the Mediterranean Sea didn't exist at all? What if the Turkic Migration never happened? What if Columbus was right all along about Geography in the World? What if the Black Death plague happened today on the 21st century? What if the Ottoman Empire industrialized? What if the Ottoman Empire survived and became a Nuclear Weapons-armed Powerhouse? What if the Abassid Caliphate and Industrialized with Steam Power? (Steampunk Islamic Golden Age alt history)
Yeah they didn't say that. They incorporated them directly into the military. This is not the same thing. A soldier is not a mercenary, a mercenary is not a soldier. The biggest issue so far seems to be that every period has a cultural and artistic Renaissance.
@@ashliselberg5444 Nah nah, listen to what they say carefully. "In exchange for military service", not service in the military, military service. And besides, even if it was service in the military that is still, for all intents and purposes, basically the same thing as what happened in real life. I don't think the Germanic tribes would act any differently if they were technically incorporated into the military or not.
My main two problems with the script is the complete omision of slavery and the hunic empire during late antiquety.
Personally, my main problems with the script is that it's very boring and safe by alternate history standards. Like, I think every idea the AI gave someone has probably thought of and done.
The correct response of a thinking computer would've been something like "insufficient data." It's not enough to consider only how emperors and major states would've behaved in a changed timeline; generals, politicians, "barbarian" rulers, etc. would also have made different decisions. People like Justinian would never have even existed in a timeline that had diverged in the 3rd century. Conversely, capable leaders who didn't exist in actual history would've existed in the alternate reality.
"Slavery" as we were taught is an anglo saxon concept, nothing to do with what happened in the roman empire. But many say these things and others to justify their barbaric actions, cause they still do it.
@xmini-ul7je um no. Ancient people had slaves too. These were usually conquered peoples, therefore, it could have been mentioned.
@@xmini-ul7je i don't understand your comment. The Roman economy was based on slavery. You could argue ir was different from the american one but that is the result of bloody social wars. Is Rome going to continue this System during the medieval period? If so, how it is justified? How do the Empire keep the slaves from revolting again? This question should be more important than the Frontiers in a maps as they define if the entity survives or not.
It tries to fit this hypothetical world into our time-line, using the same key features, discovery of America, industrial revolution etc. Most of these things would have happened significantly earlier. Its too easy to just say, Rome became good and benign and friends with everyone and everything goes great
What motivation would Rome have that will lead to discovering America or undergoing an industrial revolution?
@@liamjm9278 Foreign threats blocking the silk route, large population and low manufacture, the need to keep with demand
@@liamjm9278The discovery of America could've happened when they were looking for some mythical islands north of Britain
@@jasperaugustus3233 Why would there be mythical island North of Britain? They were already disappointed in Britain and weren't even interested in Scotland. They don't even have a motivation to build a good navy from lack of competition, nor motivation of trade since there's no one there to trade with as far as they know. It's also cold as shit. They wouildn't find the Faroe Islands and certainly not Iceland. The Scandinavians found them because they had motivation to sail far distances; to trade with wealthier nations. This long-distance trading meant their boat technology and sailing knowledge were the best in Europe, which is why they were the ones to find those islands north of Britain. Rome has no motivation to make those innovations, and even if they did they have no motivations to go to those places.
@@liamjm9278 I believe they would be more interested because they wouldn't have to care about inside issues. On the other hand there wouldn't be faster progress because there wouldn't be war so often. And we know war makes rapid progress.
ChatGPT in every alternate history scenario: Thanks to diversity and inclusion, this becomes a strong, stable nation with no problems whatsoever. I'm not joking, by the way, I mean that literally. Every. Single. Time.
Silly, innit? Like humans just needed someone to tell them to respect an authoritarian ruler's edicts and Utopia would happen.
Things would not have taken this long if Rome never fell.. Industrial revolution would have happened much much earlier
No. Most historians believe we would still be effectively be in the 17th century due to Rome's predilection to see technological assets as a toy rather than a tool fit for mass production (Hero's turbine is an example).
@@deserteagle-nx1hl although they'd still bee early because they won't have to deal with a 1000 year long scientific dark age
How do they know that was still the attitude post 4th century?@@deserteagle-nx1hl
I desagree. Since, in that scenario, there are no separatist movement within the Empire, it would find the best way to be, as united entity, at some point. After that, the need for change would come to nothing on the long run (why change a winning formula?), this slowing down the speed of progress.
everything would happen 500-600 years earlier
Basically what if the plague of Justinian never happened as a well as the volcanic eruption that cause the sun to dim like 40%
I was just going to wonder about that too... Lol
This is really cool! It’s strange that one of the better “Rome survives” alt histories I’ve seen is from ai lol
Renaissance, renaissance, renaissance. Thank you for your experiment, but after playing with AI for a while... There's a cadence, a rythm, the lack of conflict. It feels like evolved phone word suggestions. Anyway... Have you thought about revisiting your old Byzantine (yeah, the B word) survival scenario?
AI’s anti-conflict bias is ubiquitous. I can only assume it is part of the ‘ethical guardrails’. However it does a massive disservice because conflict is so often the source of conflict resolution, innovation, change, and synthesis. It is abysmal at contemporary politics because, in its zeal for peace, it can endorse nothing but the perpetuation of the status-quo and stagnation.
If you ask for a utopian scenario, it may need to lack conflict
Things of note: The Roman military now has guns Roman American Dominions Roman Industrialization Mega Qing Dynasty Mega Persia
I’m sure that if the Roman Empire survived until now, we’d have colosseums on the moon. 💁🏻♂️
Can you do Novgorod Unifying Russia forming a sort of Russian Republic in the east in medieval era
NOVGOROD RUSSIA BOTTOM TEXT
Basically the same as Russia but maybe not as fast of conquests and a strengthened focus on Scandinavia
While this scenario is intriguing, i see several issues here: - Natural desasters with its ramafications are completely ignored. - Slave trade is not existing which was common in rome. - No plague - Vikings/Normans are hardly mentioned. - religious schisms and conflicts are underestimated. - Without the mediaval dark age there would not be a need for a renaissance - industrialiation including steam power woud probably happened a lot earlier
industrialization would be the complete opposite actually, gigantic empires like this (example being China) end up so large and powerful they dont need to advance technologically leading to them falling further and further behind, realistically, England and Germania and possibly even northern Gaul, would end up breaking away in shocking defeats due to them being surrounded by while smaller, much more technologically nations
There's no wars or conflicts presented - just one giant march of progress for nearly 2 millennia. That seems very unrealistic.
In this day and age, AI is nothing more than what you make of it. It isn't able to come up with its own unique ideas. The thing with Rome and the industrial revolution was that they already had what they needed, they just hadn't added 2 and 2 to get 4 yet. Had Rone continued, I would bet they would have made steam engines relatively fast, maybe progressing to our point on the timeline by the 13th century. The question then becomes, "How far would their social awareness have evolved by then?". Because Rome being Rome, I bet they would have used nuclear force rather indiscriminately.
Linear progressive view of history is an unjustified assumption, really a myth, still being disseminated today.
Given how they'd probably have a monopoly... Yeah, Rome would use nukes to "persuade" other states towards... coming around to their way of thinking
Actually, first industrial revolution was brought by textile industry and clockworking mexanisms, not by steam. Slavery basically removes needs for automatization, slave labor can't be cheaper. Also the Late empire was basically a medieval society, it needed transfer to feudalism at first.
@alexzero3736 Steam was the logical next step. Many countries with slavery still profited from steam. A slave was not some perpetual machine, but a human being in need of rest and food. I agree that Rome, with its huge dependency on slavery might have been slow in getting to the steam engine, but they were already a few hundred years on overtime (the first steam engine was made in the 1st century AD), so I believe they would have gotten there, if for no other reasons, for military reasons.
@@SverreMunthe I think you are mixing it up. Countries with slavery in 18-19 century profited more from gunpowder and trade than steam
The picture at 6:55 gave the chills... and a sense of hope, oddly enough.
The art you generated really helped carry the ideas you presented. Its a breath of fresh alternate history air.
Really enjoyed this one. Good job.
8:32 The part of what the Romans would do in America is very similar to what the Spanish actually did. Spanish culture and laws are based on Roman law and Catholic doctrine. So, despite everything some want us to believe, Spain wasn’t as bad in America as they say. It was a mix of cultures and races. The small indigenous peoples joined the Spanish, seeing in them an opportunity to defeat the great pre-Columbian empires that had subjected them and killed them in horrible human sacrifices. This is how Spain conquered America, with an army mostly of Native Americans. They made exchanges and mixed with the population, they also collected the indigenous languages and published their grammars so that they wouldn’t be lost. One more thing, Spain did NOT colonize because it did NOT have colonies, those places were Spain, they were the same country on other continents.
Nice work with the video.
Loved this. I've been chomping at the bit to see all the amazing media and art A.I. comes up regarding timelines with a German WWI victory or alternate 20th centuries with a Prussia surviving on....
I gotta say, the images the AI produces are beautiful! It looks like actual paintings
Are horrible lol, if you go into the details thay make no sense whatsoever
@@hollyjaw3303 yeah, that’s the issue with AI
Great video, great exercise, especially coming from an AI! Congrats on your work! In regards to the content itself my comments (to the AI hahah) are the following: 1. The Roman Empire was based on military conquests in order to provide slaves, land and other resources. It would be of most importance to consider how this was treated to justify the peaceful alliances formed with barbarian cultures 2. With this great stability, especially with the advancement of calculus way earlier than it was in real history and considering the abundance of resources traded under the same currency some advancements would have been earlier, especially the Industrial Revolution 3. I highly doubt that the Empire would continue an Empire, I reckon it would rather become a Republic as a way to represent all the people across Romans lands. Thanks for creating this video, it was nontheless super interesting!
Fantastic video ! Love from Italy
Even the AI knows that we would all be in a better situation if Rome had survived.
"Everything that books may have taught us about ancient Rome falls infinitely short when faced with the image of its ruins. I am convinced that such a nation has never existed, and I hope, for the happiness of the human race, that it never will exist again" - Edward Gibbon, British Historian.
That's wrong I wish it still existed@@pg.ledesma
If you didn't tell me that it was Ai I would never know
Great video! I would like you to include more context from the eastern part of the world to make stories like this more realistic!
This is brilliant
This makes alternate history way more better now that AI can give us images and even videos in the future
1:18 I know this is alternate history, but if the deviation point was when Constantine became sole emperor in 306, that was technically the 4th century not the 3rd.
He's conflating Constantine with Diocletian. It was he who reorganised the empire in the late 3rd century.
I think it is interesting how this highlights the limits of AI when analyzing such complex things as historical processes. Especially the part on the "monetary policy of Constantine" is rather framed in contemporary political terms rather than in the frames that would be used in the times.
Alternate histories are best when there are only 1, or rarely 2, diversions at a particular point in time. This started out kinda fun but rapidly devolved into complete silliness as just about everything was diversionary... all the time. Oh well.
Not the Rome video I was expecting but it is welcome
Wow. Fascinating!
5:43 : To qualify the middle ages as dark edges is highly disputable. while it's clear that the disintegration of the Roman Empire put an end to the Pax Romana, and that the old continent was marked by numerous internecine wars, imported epidemics and a relative retreat of the sciences inherited from Greek antiquity, many scientific revolutions and innovations began during this period, from modern urban planning to the rise of crafts and trade
While I don't think it is very accurate, this was a fun video! AI did an okay job lol. Having said that, I greatly enjoyed the images it created to go along with its story. Thank you for another fun video! God be with you out there everybody. ✝️ :)
A 30 minute video of this would’ve been perfect
How many times can it say Diversity & how many times can the Indians & Chinese save the West?😂
You should make a video on what would’ve happened if Julian didn’t die during his Sassanid campaign.
He was reportedly speared in the back by a disgruntled soldier on his side of the battle.
Very good Idea, and a world where Christianity never become important and with Roman and Greek religions still alive today.
this was actually pretty cool
I really like the images😊
I enjoyed that, thanks
the pics are amazing
Excellent!
And another Insight in one of the Infinite Parallel Universes
The images at 5:40 of a 'medieval Rome that took influence from India and China' look so cursed. It looks like it placed some hundreds Taj Mahals and Chinese pagoda's on the streets and threw in some modern street shops from Shanghai or Delhi along with its skyscraper skyline haha.
"AI Generated Alternate History | What if the Axis powers won WW2?" next please
That would be a fun idea, see what it does to make that happen.
AI would just be biased and claim germany wants to control the whole world. which they didnt want to
i think the biggest mistake was industrial revolution. without the fall the rome in 453, rome would have discovered way earlier than in our timeline. probably 500 years before the real industrial revolution, that would have been a turning point in global history, the first empire reaching the industrial revolution would rule the world at this alternative history making an alternative history way more difficult to predict after that, the discovery of the new world would have been extremely different or rather similar, who knows
I imagine the reasons for searching west would be the same. Seeking a strategic advantage against eastern powers, though the Romans for more of a military advantage, rather than an economic one.
Or, alternatively, they wouldn't have begun the industrial revolution for even longer. It is difficult to know how technological development would go for a more centralised Europe, since we have both examples of great technological leaps and complete technological stagnation in China.
Plus personally for me, If the Industrial Revolution happens, Slavery would have been controversial as the working condition is horrible and dangerous And it might play a part of internal struggle within the Roman empire
Great attempt, we could start making movies with AI (hopefully next year). as for barbarian reconciliations, iRL Rome relied on FEDERATI, i.e. the entire tribes. This was the road to destruction, same for decentralization. What was needed is peaceful power transfer working schema (means the DINASTY), better transportation (extremely bad outside of water transportation), sanitation and lighter taxes. Also the change from total defense to more aggressive military. As for trade, all the plagues came from the east to Rome, i.e. from Parthians and Persians.
Very interesting
Is there some way to get the pictures in this video? They are all so conceptually awesome!
Best History. Sadly it’s not ours
You should do a part 2 of this
In fact, the title of the Holy Roman Empire is held by the king of Spain.
very interesting. have my up vote and sub.
Nice stuff ❤. What if the Turkic Migration never happened? What if Columbus was right all along about Geography in the World? What if the Black Death plague happened today on the 21st century? What if the Ottoman Empire industrialized? What if the Ottoman Empire survived and became a Nuclear Weapons-armed Powerhouse? What if the Abbasid Caliphate and Industrialized with Steam Power? (Steampunk Islamic Golden Age alt history) What if Slaves in the Swahili Coast overthrew their masters and Created a Sultanate of their own? (called the Kiswahili Sultanate) What if Song Dynasty China industrialized? What if the Phoenicians industrialized and colonised Brazil?
What AI art generator do you use?
And is the outcome much different of what we have today? The Roman Empire fell as a political entity, but it's cultural ideological fundamental culture survived as the spirit of time through Christianity. The catholic holy priests which entitled the new european kings after the fall of the Empire were the roman elite (pretty clever way to maintain their status. Not having the military might anymore, they had the ideological through indoctrination.) The western hemisphere uses the latin alphabet, Europe and USA are allies, South America speaks portuguese, spanish and french, countries majorities are Christians etc,
What if the Hundred Years War never happened?
What do you go to get all this AI art it looks amazing
А почему Русь не пошла на восток? Если на западе толком ничего не меняется, то следовательно Русь должна была расширить свое влияние также, как и в нашей истории до Тихого океана, борясь с Персией за земли Южного Казахстана и с Китаем и Японией за Приморье. Также наверняка должны были быть конфликты с Финляндией и Пруссией за Балтийское побережье, к тому же не исключен территориальный спор с самим Римом по поводу Крыма.
@@unfallingthewestbro you can translate his message don’t get mad about the Bulgarian, like who cares
The greek colonies would have persisted and grown around the black sea. The Scythians would have been defeated. The Mongols would have been a determined threat for Rome. No reason to believe Rus would have persisted or expanded, especially under pressure from a formidable Norse civilization. Perhaps the cold was one of the few weaknesses of a Roman culture that was so oriented to mediterranean climate.
Сибирь активно стали заселять именно русские и к тому же Москва осваивала Сибирь для защиты своих городов от кочевников и из-за большого количества пушнины, которая была очень ценной. Рано или поздно это бы произошло. Столицу тоже могли перенести на Восток для развития и централизации и более удобной централизации управления территории, да и путь Из варяг в Греки мог загнуться из-за того, что дорога через Польшу или территории самого Рима могли быть более экономичными.@@unfallingthewest
@@unfallingthewestникого не волнует что тебе нравиться. Буть толерантней, а то как-то не по европейски 😊
I love how absolutely bat shit crazy this scenario is in how boring it looks
The problem with this is it just tries to imprint the historical timeline with a more Roman flavor. Not enough variation.
Dribble?Change one event in history and it's impossible to judge what effect that has all other conditions.And to assume Roman's are going to give rights to Barbarians is a big stretch!
One of the biggest problems with this theory is believing all of these different groups would be willing to work together. When in reality and in history these groups never got along and always ended up fighting each other. No to mention that everything that makes Rome “Rome” would be lost.
I wonder if this timeline is so perfect for Rome due to the use of the "never fell" prompt. That would not only imply no 476 AD scenario, but also essentially an eternal Rome which never runs into significant issues. The result isn't particularly interesting. Perhaps precisely due to it being an AI interpretation, there's a lack of... human nature to it. This robot Rome is inhumanly cooperative and helpful, gladly accepting integration and other cultures without resistance, internal or external. The robo Romans appear almost always benevolent and mindful of other civilizations. There's no significant corruption nor internal strife. The Empire's vast size is no issue due to constant visionary and flawless management, and everyone is happy to submit to Roman rule and culture.
Robo Rome. That's well put. Indeed, not only is the corruption of money not factored, but neither is widespread disease or natural disasters. There were Roman traitors to the Germanic tribes and the Huns alike. Why would these culturally dissimilar factions agree that Rome had the superior culture, and be willing to subvert their own to that? When does that happen in human history by choice?
So rome and Persia just keep beefing I like it
I like it. Now make Roman/Skynet wars.
I think humanity would hhave made it to space in the 19th century, since the medival slowfown of europe never happens leading to faster development
It seems unlikely that Justinian would be emperor still. So much ground would have shifted that this seems causally very unlikely. It would also deeply surprise me if the industrial age didn't occur sooner than in the real world if Rome never fell. The 7th century may well have looked more like the real world's 15th century and the age of enlightenment and industrial revolution may have begun around the 10th century. The 13th century could look much like the world does today, only 800 years sooner. We could have colonized the solar system and alpha centuri by now.
I wonder if the paper in this alternate history the main paper they are using is hemp paper instead of tree paper.
the biggest flaw in my opinion is how this scenario keeps the same dates for everything. like avoiding the fall of rome would surely bring about the industrial revolution earlier
The industrial revolution was a one time accidental event that occurred in England, and was spread outward. It was not inevitable or even likely. And it was probably among the largest mistakes humanity has ever made. There is no reason to think it would happen at all.
@@Rnankn they definitely had the tech, if you see it as a mistake why do you partake
@@Rnanknthey even controlled the region the industrial revolution happened
We can blame Germany for the descent into the dark ages b/c those morons thought it was a good idea to torch the great library and its archives. Even if Rome fell but the great library was preserved the dark ages would've been averted and our advancement as a species would've been roughly 800 years ahead of "schedule".
What's the background music?
Neat
This really is an idealised world, the issues with Rome are put aside and only the ideal is left
All Empires eventually become moribund with the accretions of complexity and contradiction. Also, the foundational myths that underly each empire that give it explosive creativity and expanding energy dissipates and fades. Like an ailing, aging person something will get it in the end.
Damn! Just when I was preparing to watch 'Romans in Space'... 😄👍
The further back you go in a time line the harder it is to project what the contemporary age would look like. So many fickle things happen, accidents, coincidents, and just vagaries of human perception.
One other thing Russia would again move east like our timeline. Also, it seemed to not take into account the amount of civil wars and how best to stop them.
Yah that was kind of my thought. It might even move east earlier.
This is if Rome NEVER fell. What if you asked it if Rome didn't fall when it did.....
1:25 Aaand we're off!
This video feel like its written by ai
>reads title Gee, I wonder why
I have several problems with this timeline: I. The almost complete abscence of conflict/catastrophe. -> I don't think the Germanics would just stop raiding Roman territory just because the Romans tried to assimilate them. Instead the foederati assumed control of Roman lands after they didn't get paid after fighting other Germanics. The Roman state had no money to pay its immense army by late antiquity. -> The Huns just vanished? -> The Romans and Persians would certainly find a reason here and there to battle each other to the death -> The Russians would probably try expanding their influence over the rest of Europe, something Rome wouldn't allow -> Certainly there would be another slave revolt -> No diseases? Like, at all? II. Unfinished thoughts -> The Mongols would just lose against Rome just because they had guns? So did the Mongols not? How were the ROmans so effective with guns if they hadn't fought a difficult enemy in centuries? -> In two millennia of state there would not be a single "bad" Emperor. I thought Rome was famous for exactly this -> The industrial revolution did not happen in Rome earlier because they didn't need industry. They had slaves. How would that play out? Did they abolish slavery? When? How? -> Why and how would the colonies get independence? Spain/Portugal lost theirs because they were under French occupation. So some sort of conflict would have to play out to let the Romans lose these massive colonies in America, especially if they needed them to compete with China/India/Persia III. Religion -> Surely the church would do anything of note? -> The Arabs would certainly try to expand Islam across the Indian Ocean region, like they did in the real world Nevertheless a nice (artificial) thought experiment. In my opinion it shows how AI might be intelligent per se, but it still cannot compete with man in creativity of any sort. After all all it does is reproduce human knowledge
In this alternative history Rome favours fluffy pink bunnies to war and conquest and makes alliances with the Teletubies. And nobody clips the edges from the newly minted gold coins because everyone is content with their lot in life. 😂
Integrating barbarians and making them Roman was what Rome has been doing for it entire existence 😂
Knowing Rome, giving states full autonomy usually leads to outright rebelion overtime. Aswell as making alliances with germanics would have been very frowned upon by the roman populus, i imagine the same from the oposite side. pretty cool tho
This should have included more in the technological advancements that would have come had Rome stood. Im sure had the empire not collapsed Electricity would’ve been discovered a thousand years earlier. Roman knowledge of aqueduct technology would have made the transition to being used to generate power as well, much faster than how it played out. Imagine the advancements in medicine and space exploration that would have been made if instead of the Dark Ages we were already working on powered flight. If you look at the importance Romans placed on technology during their reign, it’s not hard to imagine that taking place had they survived. We may even have human colonies on the surface of a early stage terraformed Mars by this point. Seriously. At the very least sustained lunar colonies.
Dingbat Monkey should have Microprocessor in Pyramid Days ..should be Arguing with Martian Parliament over Cabbage delivery..😂
Every domination has a beginning, an ascending phase, a period of maximum (maximus is latin) splendor and a a fall. They can last a long or short but they are all phases that occur in all domination, it is inherent in human nature. P.S. in summary: it could never have lasted longer than what Rome did.
07:47 Oh look, they finally found Ireland and Scotland, in the 15th century!
This Rome could go two ways actually: colonises Americas in 11th century due to competition with Scandinavia or collapses due to Black Death- perhaps only lives on in British Isles (including Ireland) , North and perhaps eventually South Africa and a few American settlements. But presumably China or Russia or some power based in Asia who never existed in our time would cross the Pacific, probably do what Russia did in Alaska
Please make videos on What if the Indo-European Migrations to Europe never happened? and What if the Late Bronze Age Collapse never happened? also What if the Nile river never existed at all? And what if the Mediterranean Sea didn't exist at all? What if the Song Dynasty industrialized?
Your first question, multiple human species coexisting to the present. Possibly homo sapiens would have been confined to the African continent.
@@Rnankn I am not talking about human species though, since pre-indo-europeans existed like the Etruscans and Basques
Unpopular opinion: if the roman empire never fall the world would be a better place!
Fact.
"Rome stopped being bad."
Constantine ruled in the 4th century c.e., not the 3rd.
Lol so peaceful this alternate world Roman Empire
WHAT IF Roman Empire never fell.....the great jehad bastion known as Ottoman Empire would never have come into existence which means no country called Turkiye on the current World Map.
If it wast for the 4th crusude in 1204 East Roman Empire would still be alive
i think AI made our own history just with Roman Empire in it... try something more fluid like what if x didn't do something or if y didn't occur
Only thing is if any religious assimilation would be more if the Roman Catholic church breaks off from the Orthodox which would then attempt to make their gods more saints or something to that affect. Where if the church had remained united and with a printing press far earlier than our time. The Americas as far as faith goes would likely end up more like the protestant faiths today. Which might take off given the distance from Rome.
Was waiting for Rome Lands on Moon in 1669.
Star Trek already beat AI with a Roman Empire that never fell, in an episode from the original series called "Bread and Circuses." But it was on another planet of course.
This alternative is too peaceful 😅