Round Hand Guards? Here Are a Few Ways to Put a Light on Your Rifle!
In this informative video, Reid Henrichs of Valor Ridge discusses rifles with round hand guards and how to put a light on them. #secondamendment #firearmtraining #firearmstraining #firearmsinstructor #patriots #foundingfathers
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I wish I knew about this earlier I wrapped the damn thing in half a roll of black electrical tape 😂
FAB defense makes one that mounts to the bayonet lug. Maybe not the best for long strings of fire, and a little odd of a position, but it's an option.
Midwest Industries has a front sight rail that clamshells on and is rock solid. running it for years, gets the light a little farther forward and no shift in zero. 33$ on some sites google the model number MCTAR-01G2
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The Magpul handguards are a really solid choice as well for those looking to replace the rounded handguards but not go nuts on it. I bought a set for my 20' and they're really sturdy
There are A LOT of ppl who focus on a cool looking rifle and not on the skills necessary to use it. Its like pulling teeth to get people involved in performance shooting.
You are 100% right! My neighbor across the road has so much stuff attached to his rifle that it weights 15 pounds! Yet I constantly outshoot him with a simple plain Jane M4 clone with carry handle sights. It's hilarious when you think about it.
@@anangryranger What are some of the stuff attached to his rifle that makes it weigh 15 pounds?
I can only imagine.
@@Excalibur01 a massive scope, bipod, range finder, lazer, offset dot sight, oversized handguard, vertical foregrip, and a large buttstock with adjustable cheek piece. And a couple of things I have no idea what they were. Yeah, his rifle is ridiculous. 😂
@@anangryranger does he use it to clear rooms or as a DMR role? I'm building a mk 12
I'm very happy to see the increased content lately, and have it be so useful as well
You are an American Hero Reid!
Midway has a pic rail that mounts to the FSP. Not too expensive. A viable option, although not as good as the IWC part. Absolutely agree that keeping it simple and basic, and working on skills is the most important thing. If someone absolutely has to customize their rifle, in order to make it 'theirs', then there's a huge market of drop in parts that will satisfy most people, and not deviate from what Reid is holding in his hands in the video. Engineers designed the rifles this way for reasons. Most come stock looking exactly like what he's showing in the videos. But cool guy parts can be had for little money, and don't require a whole lot to install them if you absolutely need to have something else.
The Magpul light mount is a great addition to a rifle or shotgun.
OUTSTANDING VIDEO. Thanks for sharing your knowledge and experience.
The bayonet lug should be the go to spot for light mounting of you have an A2 front sight post. It's ambidextrous, packs away in a case flat and the closer you can get the light to the end of the barrel the less muzzle shadow you'll cast.
Thank you Reid !! 🇺🇸 👍
Nice option you showed for the good old round handgards 👍
The duel output surefires are easy to convert to single output. Sometimes you can find the dual output lights for cheaper!
IWC sadly isn't viable at the moment as the owner passed away and they aren't selling anything on their site.
That was my top choice…kept waiting to get one and waited too long. Hoping someone buys the patent or another company makes one.
Yep.....RIP......Most of their products were good quality.....I've had 2 of IWC mounts snap right off my rail at the same place....Tried contacting them and found out about the owner passing......I found a company in PA. Shaffer Machining. They make some of the best light mounts, red dot mounts, etc. on the market in my opinion.....Arisaka is another great company for all sorts of mounting options.....
I was just going to comment that too. I hope they get the business back up and running again, they made such good products for so long.
I wish I had bought more of those. Great light mount. All their products were excellent
@@PsychedelicWinter110 They were an excellent design....yes......I'll have to disagree on quality of the aluminum they used......Maybe I just got a bad couple of thorn tail light mounts for my AK.....I had 2 of them snap at the threads in the same spot.....They were able to replace the first and when the 2nd snapped that's when I found out about the owner passing......I do want to say they sent me a new thorn tail for free.....When 2 break on me I'll stop using that product until QC does it's job......RIP to the owner I'm sure he would have done the QC check..!!!!!!!
Again,,,,thank you so much!! Please keep up the great videos my friend
Carry Handle Gang is in the house!
We love having Stag here in Cheyenne!
Stag Arms "Infinity Rifle" warranty looks really nice, it's making me consider a Stag M4 of my own. Also, shout out to SOLGW, they have a similar free barrel replacement to anyone who shoots out their barrels. Cheers!
I do like the 20" PSA hand guards
I already have the IWC mount on a DSA AR that I installed years ago. I love it. I had a second one on backorder for the past six months and cancelled that in favor of Reid's 1913 rail plus MagPul mount solution. Important: if you go this route, make sure you buy 15mm Long M5 T-nuts and black 1/2" flathead 10/32 machine screws as well! The T-nuts that come with the rail segments are way too small to cross the entire vent hole and engage the handguard. If you are using the quick release mount that comes with the Surefire Scout, the MagPul rings and ring base should be removed. If you decide to use the MagPul rings, the Surefire quick release mount must be removed. Either choice is valid to your personal needs and preference.
When I had a round hand guard one i used an Elzetta ZFH light mount. It worked pretty good.
I’ve always been fond of the Front sight pic rail attachment
After having all the tactical crap, I find the rifle I always grab is my classic midlength with irons and the normal round handgaurds.
Thanks for the reminder.I totally thought I was subbed👍
Nice! Now we need a video for triangle handguards haha.
Ergo grip mags rail section to attach to standard handguards.
On a non-free-floated barrel, the shooter has more effect on barrel harmonics than anything else. There are picatinny rail-mounts for the front-sight-post that work well. If you want to shoot good groups with your rifle, brace off the front of the magazine-well without touching the fore-end on anything at all. What you brace against has a lot to do with it too, the more rigid the better; i.e. something immoveable like concrete or steel imbedded in the ground.
Those vent holes are there for a reason. When you start pluging them up heat retention/buildup can be an issue. Otherwise a good idea.
Ergo Grips makes a drop in rail mount that bolts to your front sight tower.
FAB Defense makes a polymer picatinny rail for the AR handguard also, $15. I've used mine for nearly 10 years.
My first light was a 500 lumen harbor freight light for $7 that i zip-tied to cutout in the cheese grater handguard. I have better now but i still have it and it can compete with $100 setups.
And easier to field fix/replace. This is how production models are developed. 👍🤔🥰
Man your on drugs. I've bought lots of harbor freight lights until I wised up.they are pure crap. If you have a good one you got lucky.
My first light was a lantern that I zip tied to my musket and I was damn glad to have. It
Simplicity is cool and all, but it's good to have well made stuff. It matters.
After dealing with a number of tape switches that stopped working, I switched to the more simplistic light setup like you’re running. I bought a couple of those Magpuls when they first came out and used them on issue carbines with quad rails. They worked great. Still using one minus the rings on a personal with a free float quad to mount a Scout Light 600L that I wouldn’t have otherwise bought except that the price was too right. Activating the Scout with the butt cap switch. The Magpul mount pits the light at the right height and sufficiently far enough foreword to establish a good support hand position. I’d never realized the hand guards were double heat shielded. After going with free float quads, I was a bit irritated to find that the hand guard get pretty hot closer to the gas block making gloves a necessity for anything more than a few rounds. Having watched your previous video, I now wonder how much of a difference the free float really makes when trying to make small, tight groups at 100 from a supported position.
I had a bayonet mount flashlight mount that worked pretty good and it was cheap. Centered the light under the barrel which kept it out of my field of vision. Great video as always.
Yep. I have one too. Like it a lot
Thank you, sir.
Thank you. 👍
Appreciate you, Reid.
I don't need cool looking stuff, just stuff that works! Less is more.
I religiously stick too hose clamps the cost + reliability beats any light mount I’ve found doubles as a sling mount aswell
Excellent presentation and way to get some torches ready for those carbines. I sure would like to get an upper with those type of hamdguards and front sight tower. Sadly, I swayed from the Old Ways.
Subscription added, thank you for your time and effort posting this content.
Great info like always!!
Your channel is a breath of fresh air. Thank you for high quality knowledge transfer with effective presentation and humility!
O.G. is the way to go. That's a good lookin blaster. S tier set up is the Gordon carbine clone. Big sexy 👍
Thank you
For that IWC I couldn’t find one for the “double” heat shield.
They come with a bag of hardware. Different screws and back plates. You should be able to make it work on any of those Handguards. If you can find one with one of their dealers. Their site has been close to retail orders for over a year now.
Thank you!!
I found that I like the "clamp onto the frontsight" rails for my light+slim plastic handguard combo, and I just velcro the pressure switch onto the handguard
I bought my Stag model 1L as I am a southpaw many years ago. I don't have as many rounds through it like you do, but I'm glad that they do honor their guarantee about replacement parts.
Thanks Reid. Love new stuff. Love old stuff. Know what works best for you. Leave the bells and whistles behind, you really don't need them. If a product has been improved and works better for you, be open minded. But don't scoff at older stuff... its been dealing death since before you started life. Respect it. Have a basic knowledge of how to use it all, but train mostly with your setup.
My Colt 6920 is in need of a light but I have put it off because of this issue. Thanks.
Key zion makes a rail piece that mounts on your bayonet lug. To mount ur light
KZ mount for FSB look unique
Thanks for all the good info!!
Thanks Sir!!
Great info. Thank you!
LOVE all the content coming out recently! Keep it coming Reid! Thank you for all you do
Smart!! Bless you!!
Very helpful. Thanks
Thank you Reid. I still remember your lecture on the different phases of government, and we are 100% at bondage. Thank you for doing the right thing no matter what!
God bless you Reid!!! Another great video!!!
Good information! Thank you
Good solid information.
I really want to schedule some training with you in the next few months. Thank you for all the useful info throughout the years.
Great Idea!
I love the FSP Picatinny Mount but it makes your light and batteries get hot.
Thanks so much for answering my question!
Damn kids! I’m my day we ran automotive hose clamps and a D-cell Maglite!
Thank you, Reid.
Great content thanks!
Liked, subscribed and you just sold some stuff for these folks.
Great info thank you.
Thanks
I love the Magpul mount.
Thank YOU... For helping me with my projects and information for us your viewers.......
I opted for the traditional handguard as well. Heat was the driving factor. My choice for mounting accessories was a pic rail handguard length ( mounted at the bottom) as i wanted to be able to mount a light, same setup you showed just left side as I'm a lefty, and a bipod or vertical handle. I used Amazon products with stainless hardware from my local ACE. A little blue loctide and voila, everything works very well. I can reach the light switch, and yes on / off only is my preference too (blinking and flashing blablabla just makes me dizzy lol), when the handle is installed. Good video, thanks for sharing. If i may, can you consider publishing a presentation about shooting techniques free standing and how to accomplish best results? Thank you.👍
Thank you so much so this info…I just like the looks of the old school stuff! Thanx Brother! GOD bless!
Your the best. Thanks for the vids. They mean alot to me.
I rock an old bushmaster m4a1 old a1 carry handle with small handgaurds I would trust it any time I use one of the front sight rails so nothing on the handgaurd it has never let me down the rifle
I really like the front sight block picatinny mounts, they work awesome
Excellent content. 🇺🇸
Appreciate your time. Thank you.
I still use an old school m900 i was issued with a pic rail bolted to handguard. It was so old my armorer said dont bring it back.
I made the same mistake with the Magpul light mount. Ended up just bolting the ring mount to the round handguards of my A1. Fewer parts and a few ounces lighter, a win win mistake...
Wanna talk old school and functional? Having a mag light on your nightstand next to your home defense weapon of choice and knowing how to Hold both to control your weapon and light while not adding accessories that make the weapon non practical to carry due to too many gadgets 😎👍🏽
Love the old round handguards and have mounted pic rails on them for a light or a stubby forward grip. You forgot to mention putting the heat shields back on after mounting the pic rail.
Nice video Reid and well said and showed buddy. Mark from Tennessee 👍👍🇺🇸🇺🇸
Kley zion makes a small rail piece that mounts to with a set screw, to your bayonet lug. To mount a light.
Dude, your awesome to have in the 2A community.
You're always a breath of fresh air bro. We appreciate you.
Great video Valor Ridge! 💯 Went up the mountains here in PWN Washington to train. Valor Ridge is my go to for training. Ive been trying the full size target training from Reid's last videos
These og length handguards are nice. Delta-ring to gasblock always cut it for me. Whether it's carbine, midlength, or rifle.
Great recommendations. I have been using the IWC mounts for several years too. I will have to try the pic rail setup. 😁👍
Make sure to get rail covers. Otherwise it's like a cheese grater lol
I have done exactly like you show for the second option.. Most of my rifles have the standard round handguard and I actually prefer the smaller diameter but I put a short piece of magpul rail at the 10 o-clock position and use a 1-in scope ring to clamp a flashlight onto that rail which puts it right in front of my left thumb. Works great and was inexpensive.
I prefer the Doom 3 method of not being able to hold your gun and flashlight at the same time
95-97 USMC FAST..we had light saddles a combination of velcro buckle and formed plastic. with our M16A2 / A4s.. for our mag lights.. heavy but they worked.. The brilliace or the basics..master the basics 1st..
I use a qd mount called a kerm lock. Used to have a C cell maglight mounted to it before I switched to a surfire g2x.
Just make my m400 with clamshells pinning the FSB again and i was thinking of this as a video. Very nice my friend.
You can get Click tailcaps instead of pressure ones for the G2 and 6P models as well to eliminate the twist headache, working man's Scoutlight
It's so funny you came out with this video today, I was shooting my rifle with the full length free floating handgaurd then I shot my wife's with the traditional Magpul type 2 pc handgaurd and I was amazed at the weight difference
I've mounted lights by attaching a rail section on top of these handgaurds for over ten years. Works just fine.
i took the plastic rail off my grip pod, a couple of screws and drilled it into the handguard
I always switch out my round hand guards that use an A-pillar gasblock with a Midwest Industries mlok or an extended magpul mlok handguard.... I've pretty much switched over to low profile gas blocks anyway for longer mlok handguards to eliminate as much barrel shadow possible, especially when shooting suppressed. LWRC currently make my favorite DI & piston operated rifles.