It's finally Happened boyos, we be playing Imperator Rome
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The biggest loss that Paradox Interactive has had in recent years is Imperator Rome. A game that was made to be a success and a bridge between the EU franchise and the CK franchise, it completely flopped and today we'll check out why and if it's playable now, after the 2.0 patch, and what's the current state of the game.
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Imperator Rome is a grand strategy games published by Paradox Interactive. All rights reserved. This is an unofficial video, not endorsed by Paradox Interactive. Is Imperator Rome Worth It in 2024?
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I am swedish and i am angry, but of course i have already watched the video. what now? WHAT NOW LUDI??!
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xdd love it
you actualy convinced me to buy the game. love rome so im gona give it a shot
I'm very confused on why developers on struggling games don't reach out to the modding community more. The modders make such amazing additions just because they love the game, and I feel they don't get the formal recognition they deserve
I fully agree the modding community is amazing
It’s literally free money but paradox would rather milk out sub par dlcs over years in other games
It's likely for legal reasons and difficulties
Honestly this is pretty selfish but I'd rather have free content from dedicated modders than having to pay 40 bucks every few months.
Because of C level management - target vs revenue in a spreadsheet. If reality is way off from target, they will just kill the project because that's simple. They are not developers - often marketing people. They don't know what to do...
I went German migratory tribe but stayed in Germany. Then I spent centuries kidnapping people from allover the Med and bringing them back to Germania. My Germania now has a higher pop density than modern day Hong Kong and there's not a single city left standing around the Med. No other paradox title offers this kind of gameplay. Such a shame they didn't stick to it.
lmao what a weird anecdote
Wait, how do you kidnap people in imperator rome, when i played a German migratory tribe i just focused on centralising conquering and colonizing my region and then i took tech for pop growth I have around 20 hours in the game though so i would like to learn more
@@user-zg4bk6rv1q if you siege down a city you get slaves transported to your cities. After some time they promote and assimilate, so that is why he never said anything about rebel problems.
@@chase5298 Yes. I.. I sorta get off on playing tall by simulating war crimes in ancient history grand strategy games. It's a rare fetisch. Don't kink shame.
@@user-zg4bk6rv1q it's possible he just stacked ensl-vement efficiency and raided them forever. Or he cheesed the migration mechanic. One thing is you only need your culture/religion dominant to migrate, so you can move like 4 of your guys into some multicultural province and migrate 20 out. It's really tedious to do this though.
Imperator Rome has so much potential. I was sad when they annonce they will never uptated the game. It deserve another chance !
Nah. The choice of dates is wrong, there hundred of games where you can start an empire. Late stages of Roman Empire, fighting civil wars, fighting of Germans and Hunns, commanding the empire from it is zenith and preventing its fall... That's everyone dream.
just play Total War: Attila @@alexzero3736
What are you talking about? They never announced the game would never be updated again. It got an update last year. And it'll probably get another one next month
@@randomboys1000 paradox Announced they stopped development and Prob who are doing these updates are 2-3 passionate programmers
A couple of tips for those who've tried the game and were frustrated by the mechanics. Unlike EU4 you want to have a fort in every province and not just on the borders. Forts reduce unrest which increases province loyalty. So at least 1 fort per province and 2-3 for newly conquered states. That along with theaters and temples in cities when you can research them. Second trick is if a province has declining loyalty of less than 34, you can switch the governor out and back and they will usually change to harsh treatment without wasting PP. At a small cost of loyalty, hopefully you didn't assign the governors job to someone with low loyalty beforehand. Third is to have only 1 city per province, obviously your province capital. It's more efficient to have have 1 city with 90 pops than 3 with 30. Pick a place with the best habitability even if its not the best resource available. Exceptions being a low population province (below 30-40) where it may be ok to have a 2nd city strictly as a granary silo. More available food increases pop growth, doesn't work as well in high pop states. Also your capital region where 4-6 cities may be ok for the extra goods trade bonuses. Next and more challenging; Tyranny is your friend. Not a good one but it's the best source for AE reduction, plus adds to slave output, more tax money. So sack cities that you don't need. Just be weary of loyalty, maybe research loyalty techs. After that research levies starting XP, levies can give tons of Mil XP when disbanding. There are guides on the paradox page that explain it clearly but basically you can finish an entire military tree within a few years by raising and disbanding levies every 6 months. In regards to legions, don't bother with legions until you're making $100+ income. You won't be able to field enough of them until you're making bank. Now, once you do get legions there is an exploit where you can get them almost unlimited morale. It just depends on how many foreign holy sites you have access to, each one is supposed to give a 10% permanent morale boost to a legion when sacked. Its supposed to only do it once. But due to the game being perfectly balanced. What you can do is split up which ever legion you want to do this to and send one to however number of temples you want. Then pause the game and go through all the units and destroy each holy site with the legion. You'll see the event pop up repeatedly. I've gotten a 400% morale boost in Ironman. Usually I restrict myself to a meager 50-100% boost as I try to spread it around all my legions. And morale actually increases your damage output. My legions can easily fight 4-5 times their number, such victories give more rewards and bonuses. Eventually you'll have a single 10k legion smashing 100k troops. Lastly horse archers are OP, just like in real life. If you have access to the Persian military branch use them instead of heavy infantry and cavalry. Don't give them logistics or engineers. Have dedicated siege legions with infantry set aside. Because they can move at speed for 4, double the speed of infantry at 2. And they have 5 maneuver in battle. Basically they can hit everyone around them. Combined with the Persian bonuses and the "bull" battle tactic they're like roving helicopter gunships. The only thing that can stop them is a dedicated army of light cav but the AI never makes such an army. And they're good as far as army weight, not having the extra weight modifier that heavy cav has. Early steppe horde goes BRRT!
appreciate this dawg
@@lutherosmatthaios Thanks! Hopefully it helps. The game is honestly decent. There are some frustrating moments with characters going rogue. Like this one time my admiral decided to go for a joyride in the Mediterranean with my main fleet instead of landing an army on Cyprus. All because someone else in my court inspired disloyalty in him. And as annoyed as I was, it was actually interesting because the characters don't behave like mindless robots who follow your every word. There is so much depth they could have added to the game. But we can still do goofy things like rivaling a baby and banishing it. Can't imprison or execute it but banishing a baby is just as good.
Any tips for better research and generally improving the ratio of noble and citizen pops? I usually am able to play the game well but struggle due to some times having bad research ratio and low army trad generation from lack of those pops
@@heitoroliveira2025 From what I experienced; unless you start as one of the big powers with lots of cities and integrated pops you'll be struggling to catch up and research techs for the fist 20-30 years as a kingdom/republic and longer as a tribe. It's not the end of the world though, most countries have 0,1,2 techs for the first few decades. The first priority is to build cities or capture some. After that build academies and libraries. I usually do the max 3 academies and 4-5 libraries in the capital. The foundry is also pretty good but will take 4 innovations (1 tech in each) to research. You can do a similar build in other cities but make sure they're your primary or integrated culture as there is a big debuff to research if its not. Beyond that you can move pops into the cities. The slave pops will promote faster with a larger city.
So I barely ever touch the manpower, trade route, research or tax buildings until I've built up to the 3-building cap on at least one pop ratio building, have a theatre, foundry and temple, and level 5 port. Nobles and Citizens give research and generate more trade import routes, Nobles giving way more. I have three general city designs. But there are some 'always take these' buildings. My usual priority sequence on city buildings is: 1: fort if province capital (or on defensive terrain cities if your economy can take it) 2: lvl1 port 3: foundry 4: grand theatre 5: City specialisation 6: Grand temple 7: Ports up to lvl5 8, onwards: Depends on city specialisation. As for the different city specialisations I use: 1) province capital Freemen ratio buildings (they also give a considerable food modifier, which applies to all trade goods food if it's the province capital), AND slave ratio buildings (they boost migration attraction), spend any spare build slots at end of sequence on granaries or aqueducts if you know what you're doing. 2) research/advanced economy Noble ratio buildings Spend spare building slots on marketplaces 3) ez economy Slave ratio buildings, spend spare build slots on tax buildings.
I agree that more people should play this game. "Dead game"? What does that even mean? It's polished and feature-complete with awesome mods and community, Invictus doesn't even disable achievements. It's not a Live Service game (which most people hate but keep playing and paying for some reason), how can it be dead? It's only dead if you don't play it. No official future patches and DLCs? Nobody's entitled to DLCs, especially when people keep absolutely SHITTING on PDX DLCs for some petty reason. So just play it and shut up! It's a good game!
Paradox docs are overpriced features and yes if a game stops getting updated especially in a company where most of their games are constantly updated it’s dead
@@thebatlvrso you dont know how to play? Git gud.
@@JoboGamezzz why does it even need to be constantly updated though? cant the game just be good as it is, especially with mods, and not need more DLC?
I got 50 hours in 2 weeks in a rome campaign. The game is addicting in a way i cant really describe
imperator rome is the most unfair and underrated game of all
So true
it deserved this treatment.
I never stopped playing Imperator Rome, since its release. I love it, Paradox should love it a little bit more as well.
I never understood why Victoria 3 got the manual trade system of Imperator Rome. Trade in both games is so annoying. Checking and accepting trade routes every minute is worse than a clicker game. Victoria 2 did it better.
Yeah i wish we had the vic2 trade also
Yo can auto accept all the trade in the trade menu
@smittywerbenjagermanjensen3736 never do that cause you re gonna lose surpluses if slave population declines in a province with x2 or x3 surplus
Yeah vic 3 is terrible. And why no combat? The system they used was the dumbest idea ever.
Vic 2 did many things better than the 3..
PDX needs to hire the invictus team for I:R2
Honestly, I think the engine is working fine for just integrate officially the Invictus mod and trying to update the game. :)
So glad to see ludi make an imperator rome video. Had this game in my library for half a year, but this finally gave me the energy to start my own campaign Cheers man!
I suggest getting the Timeline Extension mod and the Crisis of the Third Century edition. They are Invictus compatible and probably shatter your empire so you can have an interesting mega camapign.
Just a little tip: in this game early mercs are WAY more important than in eu4.
But early mercs are completely obligatory in EU4?
@@Minkybyl this game has a hard limit to levies and legions (they are defined by the number of accepted pops) and manpower is way harder to come by. Mercs in eu4 are used to save manpower, here you do everything at start with mercs as a simple heavy battle or siege will put your manpower down to zero.
@@Minkybyl I guess that means they are just importanter
I would love to see a historical vid on Bactria!! I don't know much about this older history and would love to learn more :)
it's very funny seeing ludi play the game and not being sure which features are modded and which are from 2.0, for example the scaling skills in offices is from 2.0 xd
would love to see a livestream with this game
That sudden increase in Vicky 2 players is due to isorrrowroduction videos with interesting gameplay part, one of the best Vicky 2 youtubers
It makes me so happy to see people playing Imperator Rome! I really hope paradox start developing more dlcs and expansions for it. Obviously people stopped playing because paradox cut the development of the game, but in my opinion imperator is a lot better and more interesting than Vic 3.
A Bactria video would be amazing, dude. I’ll take any Ludi history lesson I can get my hands on.
Yes some Bacteria Maximus plz
I think the video's are working. The active players have doubled today, and right now Imperator has almost the exact same amount of players as CKII!
Long story short: Thracians were a huge group of people which were part not only the Dacians/Getians(different tribes, same people); Dacia got to be called Dacia after the tribe that unified the people, the Dacians. Illyrians and the pasta eating plebs on the boot are also of the Thracian tribes, but hey.
Baktria is my fav faction in Rome 2 total war. Greek phalanxes with elephants!? Sign me in!
Bactria is super interesting and underrated in real history and in games
Baktria it could be my favourite too... but Seleucids exists... haha same elephants, better infantery, better chavalry... Seleucids ar OP in Rome2
@@hectorvivasjimenez9768 I also prefer their colour scheme and their starting provinces are extremely wealthy, while at the same time you are relatively small. Seleucids are my favourites in Rome 1, but I think they are too strong from the get go in 2
@@hectorvivasjimenez9768Like the real ones, Seleuco Is the unique of the Diadochis was a Sargent originaly.
Vicky 2 has a significant modding and multiplayer community considering its age, its instability for mp is its biggest issue
Thanks for making this vid, love seeing Invictus vids - fingers crossed we get that trade DLC!
08:30 it is not from the mod. İts called statesmanship which when you give them job thep will slowly build up to their capability.
More imperator Rome please… I played this weekend. I’m doing my part. Want to know more?
I do love Imperator, I just did a Bactria playthrough a few months ago. So yeah, I'd love to see a video essay from you on it! And you know I'll be there if you do a Imperator livestream.
The skill rating for the offices is from base game though :)))
Well, your video worked. Bought all the dlc on sale and will give it another go. Abandoned it myself before the 2.0 patch….
Great video as always! Love it!!
That wasn't the silk road it was the king's road which was build long before the silk road by the persian kings of achaemenid empire to connect the most important cities of the empire
With the sale on steam, I'm gonna go ahead and grab this game, $7 for base, $14 for all DLC. Maybe we can bring this thing back to life, I need something to play in Last Epoch queue.
This game has one of the best maps and a great concept. It really does deserve more love
Yess lets try to revive it 🥰 so much potential !
My favorite paradox game and I still play it with my friends
I'd love to know more about Bactria!
Imagine Afghanistan, as it is today, now imagine it's all green, with rivers and forests... This is before the Mongol invasion burned the grass, destroying remaining top soil, and before global climate change of the late antiquity in the 4th through 6th centuries (cooling). It's a lash and vibrant land, home to some massive urban metropolitan cities of Persian/Indian vibes. In midst of all this, a Hellenic kingdom. Architecture isn't Greek or anything, and most locals speak a dialect of ancient Persian...but military nobility is mostly greek, as is the royal court. All that existed for a few centuries, until resurgent Persian Empire, under Parthians, annexed the region.
It’s a shame, v2 plus Invictus is real good. All the extras and flavor! 👌
I'd love to see you do videos on this. I used to play quite a lot. You should definitly do a video reforming the Achaemenid empire. I forget which country, but there's a tiny one in northern anatolia that has the only Achaemenid ruler in the game. It's dificult because everyone else is greek.
Update: Its Heraclea Pontica
I remember I tried that game few times already. Once again a bit tired with EUIV will definetely try the mods
The video thumbnail says it all! With Bactria in Invictus, I had military power equal to that of the Great Mauryan Empire, using only levies and mercenaries! Powerful stuff!
Also, when picking the city to found a Roman Colonia in you should look a little more carefully than the population. The city you pick gets those bonuses for the rest of the game (assimilation and migration attraction I think), it becomes the capital of the province, and it will found a city there if there isn't one already. The capital of the province is important as slaves will be distributed there in wars so it will grow quickly! Coastal cities and cities on freshwater have innate bonuses to population cap as well so late game inland and hilly cities can be inconvenient
That game actually got good towards the end
The Romans were historically known for their advances in urban infrastructure. Which is why the best tech to take when playing as them is... Rural development
Keep up the great work Ludi. Love from Brazil
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In the middle of my Achaemenid Empire run with Invictus, Crisis of the Third Century and Timeline Extension, taking it into CK3 in 476.
Was your Empire shattered in Crisis? :D For me, everyone basically starved and revolted.
@@MK-ev5rz Oh yeah! That's how it goes though right? Just as you recover it's time for the Cyprian Plague. I've found the extra Granary in the mission tree helps, but it's not much help.
It's definitely a game worth playing and being developed. Still a bit naked. Played it recently in January. Will check out the mods
It appears both Star Wars Battlefront 2 (2017) and Imperator Rome shared similar launch stories. Something about them was not well received until the devs did whatever thing to have influenced people to come back. Though, Imperator is the late bloomer in comparison. However, I’d imagine we’ll see an Imperator 2 first before a Star Wars Battlefront III formally surfaces (not counting the unfinished BF3 by Free Radical prior to Disney’s new management, the Renegade/Elite/Mobile Squadron games, or the upcoming remastered Battlefront legacy titles).
Would love to see an imperator livestream
I loved the game at launch, but never relearned it after all the changes. To get back into it now I think I need a guide (especially with these mods that Ludi is using). Ludi should definitely make one.
3:52 OMG! Victoria 2 music is pretty nice btw.
Love all your vids mate I play EU4, Crusader Kings and bought Imperator Rome on release but never played it until I watched this vid so thanks. Why dont you please do us a nice Lets Play be cool. Thanks for your nice content anyway!! Take care xx
@Ludi et Historia bro most intuitive pdx ui is in CK3, not EU4
Is there coming a Imperator livestream. Couse i would love to see it
Ehi Ludi, thank you so much for this video.
Imperator has a great base imo. Its quite enjoyables mechanically some polishing and a different time period itd probably be a great game
This game is actually really fun, hope it resurrects.
Installing now, 5 years since i gave it a try
ok i really wish they just take the inviktus dev into the team, give him like 2 more fulltime devs and full source access and pay him a good salary factorio took earendel as an employee (who did the very popular space exploration mod) and now they are doing a fully space DLC :D
This is nice to watch, I enjoy it :)
bactria would not be bad but colchis or iberia would be better. keep up the good work 👍
If you do a historical video on the bactria I think it would be best if you played as the nation while talking about the history to make it more engaging to the whole audience. But 10/10 idea would watch the video
i would like to see a playtrougth of Pontus conquering and closing the black sea
I hope Ludi makes more Imperator videos
i like the imperator rome 2.O engine .. maybe we should use it for some fantasy games
I loves imperator and I have played as many different nations, from a belgae to a British tribe and all the major nations... just since the fame doesn't release updates, I stopped because nothing new comes. I am so happy all paradox streamers are giving it love
I started playing this a little again because all the videos that popped up. I had so high hopes when this was being developed. But on release i was so disappointed that i didn't go back until now. I have all dlc etc. but its a shame that they didn't get to do more with the game. I really dont like the clan/family system. it gets in the way of playing the game in my opinion. And getting negative to characters loyalty when you assign them to a province is really weird because they should be glad you gave them something and you can take it away again easily as long as they are not to disloyal and rebelling. so the debuff with them having power, when it is something given and that can be taken seems like a really bad mekanic. but other than that, there are some really good things and it is quite fun now.
Nice more videos on imperator rome please !!
are you going continue this series?? also you should install the mod Dark Red UI 2.0
I would love to see a livestream with Imperator Rome
as a avid EU4 player, I got Imperator as a gift by a friend, but I never actually played it because of the state of the game. Now I'm curious of at least trying it, using the mods mentioned in the video. Does it make sense to get the DLCs as well at this point?
yes, especially if you want to play as the greeks or rome
Thank you. A great deal at the current sale price with the two mods, and added the CK3 font mod for my eyes; sharpness. Bundle $15 USD
Also, Vicky 2 wasn't primarily Steam release - plenty of people have it on discs and play without Steam.
vic 2 is actually an amazing game that has fantastic mods thats why it never really died most people tend to come back every couple months
Well now i want to play It, thanks for this Ludi
i loved the europa rome vae victis, (specialy with the epigoni mod) It had many different starting date offering different starting scenario to play from one faction or the other with their respective historical figure and so on. The part i liked the less in rome was the trading ressource buff and trying to optimise them.... and in imperator .... They 10x that part of the game, i start the game and i just look at trade, think on how to organise it for 5 minutes, then just close the game.
Unul dintre jocurile mele favorite, abia aștept noi update-uri.
The roads in Anatolia/ Persia are the network of Royal roads that were built by the Persian empire during its zenith
"I dont have anyone I could potentially get dates from" I feel ya homie
I played a bit of Imperator. There was one thing which made me stop for a good while- they made it impossible to continue the bloodline of Alexander the Great. I put probably 10 hours in trying to continue his bloodline before finding out it's scripted to have no kids and die young, so I quit playing for a while.
More of this plz
Holly damn i didn't know you are from the same city as mine! Galați FTW
I think this game really deserves a comeback
To be honest, not developing not that bad since it don't break our mods.
Just started playing this again after buying at launch and shelving it for being so bad. It’s now everything I was hoping it would be back when I was playing imperium universalis mod on eu4 in anticipation of it dropping. Imperator Rome definitely deserves a second chance by everyone who tried at the beginning and new players!
I really love this game, developing cities and provinces is fun, connecting the world with roads feels satisfying, loved the pop system. With some economic and cultural DLC this game could have been a masterpiece. Problem is that Rome is boring to play, and every other power's only real goal is to race against Rome and India. Not enough alt history.
Bought it at 70% off steam sale yesterday.
I would love a campaign as Macedonia restoring Alexander's empire honestly
Try Epirus for that if you like challenge
Oh man, this IS an amazing game, and I'm so mad that Paradox decided to abandon it. I hope yours and other KZheadrs' efforts will not be for nothing, and the game gets more updates!
You’re the best Ludi!! :)
I‘m very satisfied with IR in it’s current state and enjoy it a lot. Maybe because of, Paradox not bombing this game with additional DLCs and patches. Many thanks to all the modders, who do such a great job.
Live-Stream and Bactria-Vid would be HELLA NICE, go for it! =)
If comparing EU4 and IR, what I prefer from IR are the pops, characters, civil wars, army evolution. EU4 is better mostly, especially the way trade and missions work.
The Holy Grail would be for Paradox to really integrate the conversions from Imperator to HOI4. Just doing that would make the community flock to Imperator again for the epicness of a great run!
For sure do a vid on bactria would love to see that
Ludi: EU4 music when playing Imperator, Vicky 3 music when playing EU4
I have always been interested in eastern and northern Iranian peoples history, be that Bactria, Parthia, Scythia, or the Khwarezmians. I even did some Parthia and Nomad Rome 2 content years ago on a different channel. If you were to make a video about them I would be one guaranteed like.
What about Hepthalites 🥺
@@McHobotheBobo aren't they turks/mongols?
@@RKGrizz They later mixed with the Oghuz turks but are Iranian originally, closely related to the Pamir tribes and Saka
@@McHobotheBobo I thought the scholarship leaned towards them being an Altaic people who adopted Bactrian language and customs. I guess I need to reread some stuff.
"Why imperator rome needs another chance" kinda sus comming from a romanian with that perfil photo
Made all of Africa a Greek colony in Imperator Rome. Epic game.
Announcing it before CK3 REALLY hurt the game. All the new CK fans wanted CK in Roman times so they were naturally disappointed. My favourite game was EU:Rome, so I was disappointed to get a game over screen when my tribal lands had a revolution. That was so anti paradox for me. Imagine getting a game over in EU4 if rebels win or Victoria. It made playing small nations pointless. 2.0 changed so much I couldn't get into it. One thing that should be in all future games is setting an army to autonomously hunt rebels.