What is Nothing? | Episode 1212 | Closer To Truth
What is Nothing? What if nothing ever existed? Scientists claim that the universe came from nothing. But what's the nature of nothing? That's where the confusion lies. Featuring interviews with Richard Swinburne, Simon Blackburn, Robert Spitzer, Peter van Inwagen, Steven Weinberg, John Leslie, Timothy O'Connor, Victor Stenger, John Hawthorne, and Peter Forrest.
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#Nothing #Existence
Everyone over in the nothing universe is like, “what is something?”
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Don’t you mean None rather than Everyone?
There is nobody in the nothing universe.
We don’t know what it’s like to be nothing
@@TiddyFreckle and never will
This man has to be the most interesting person I have ever seen, simply from his search for the meaning and truth of our existence, his unrelenting curiosity. It’s also cool he grasps both the physics and philosophy involved.
Known the guy since 2000 so cool u finally met him, these questions are easily opened by the host
he keeps cutting people off while talking though.
I agree with you 💯 percent!!
@Jeffrey Smith what r you talking about?
@Jeffrey Smith you're the only fool on here, fool.
So much substance in this show. We need more of this and less mainstream media. Excellent channel.
"Philosophy is a very difficult and frustrating field and I wish I'd been a novelist instead". ☺ Gold.
if One want to establish fact philosophy begans where science ends,go to children's to get answers for complex question. Parents can't answer them when they ask.where.were they before they burn! They provide their imaganitive answers to hide.their ignorance,friend
Who is holding you back?
i fink real nothingnes exist only in to the unknown future and that would be everything that still not found yet by the everything what's hapening in any existence until this moment, so everything we know now before we knew was in the state of nothingness and all possibilities who are not found yet exists in the state of nothingness, but that nothingness state of possibilities always growing with each new thing that comes to existence so i fink here is no end to existing things couse here is no end of possibilities and things who are still in non existing nothingness state to be found from nothingness infini. This is like counting numbers, with u know it is infinite but the numbers who are not mentioned or found yet in the all of existence of everything, exists only in nothinges state like futures possibilities to be found. So total nothingness exists and it growing equally to the existing thing and it is no end to this proces
Best show on the internet. So informative and educational. Makes you think and analyze life.
Hello, i'm i Dutch philosopher and have been thinking about (the) nothing for about 23 years and counting. My grammer is not so good on paper let alone in another language but i do want to share some of what i have discoverd. Now i can't explain everything, the trains of thought how i got there nor what i exactly mean by them because of the language barrier and some quote will lose some of it's "value" because of the translation (so i wish you were Dutch ;)) But here i go. First of some quotes i thought of along the way when thinking about (the) nothing: - The shortest moment in history is the one that did not yet have a past (So what's before that....) - Nothing is something that is'n't there - Nothing is a thought that is not being used (what is a thought, what is it before it becomes a thought, what is it after it's been observed but nothing has been done with it) -Everything doesn't have a counterpart because it is allready nothing (for this i would need to speak in Dutch to explain) There is a lot more inside my head regarding this topic but it is to difficult for me to explain in English. I do want to thank you for this episode because i've never in my life untill now come across people who've also been busy with this witch felt lonely because i could talk about it because they didn't find this "stuf" interesting so thanks again. Greetings from Holland, Cees
Same here bro.. Wish we were friends on FB so that we could share our experience
When you try to define you fall in the nature and attributes. Nothingness is subject of existence not nature notice I did not spell nature with capital N. Existence alone is in contrast with nonexistence. The absolute existence is the one has no contrast.
What is nothing could be asked as "what is more real, nothing or the reality we experience". Look at the nothingness that is perfect in the moment, without time and definition. Is there possibilities at that point or in the relation, or in the thing related to (like the universe). It's possible that the nothingness is more real because...when the definition (the universe) is made, it then becomes kind of obsolete, the possibility part of it is diminished by entropy. The universe is like a flash memory imprint in the moment. A little piece of the moment stays but is eroded as the pattern fades. The expression of/that is the universe both erodes it and gives it meaning, at least for us!
The concept of "Nothing" represented by the number "0" (zero) did not exist in the beginning. The number "0" (zero) is a relatively recent human innovation in mathematics. But, there has always been "1" (one). The fact that you (1) exist and can think about the concept of "nothing" (0) shows that there already exists one (1), YOU. Thus, nothing (0) does not truly exist: only One (1) exists who can ponder the concept of nothing (0). Mathematically, Absolute nothing "could be" expressed as 0 to the power of 0, which can equal 1. Are we Closer to Truth yet?
I've been in the nothingness. Nothing to see there ^^ Focus on the "wholeness", and then the nothingness will come. I guess it's the order. ^^ I wonder though. Could be the opposite, or it could not matter at all. As far as i know, not many people experienced both state and so could tell what is it they had first. Nothingness or "wholeness". Wow i'm thinking. Not everyone will experience "wholeness" but everyone will experience nothingness. One you will remember, the other one you won't. ^^ Maybe i'm talking crap i don't know, you guys think, i'm dumb and tired ^^
It’s possible that there is no such thing as nothing. Nothing may just be a concept. Whatever gave birth to our universe may be eternal. Eternity is also another concept that the human mind cannot fully grasp. Great stuff! Despite our limitations, human curiosity will continue to propel us forward.
A simple way to visualize nothing is to imagine you open up the skull of a Trump worshipper and look inside.
We can imagine eternity that's easy we can grasp that concept by using self sustaining energy, we can't grasp nothing cause it's impossible for us, i think this is the limit of everything!
Keepster us thinking
@@flux9433 i fink real nothingnes exist only in to the unknown future and that would be everything that still not found yet by the everything what's hapening in any existence until this moment, so everything we know now before we knew was in the state of nothingness and all possibilities who are not found yet exists in the state of nothingness, but that nothingness state of possibilities always growing with each new thing that comes to existence so i fink here is no end to existing things couse here is no end of possibilities and things who are still in non existing nothingness state to be found from nothingness infini. This is like counting numbers, with u know it is infinite but the numbers who are not mentioned or found yet in the all of existence of everything, exists only in nothinges state like futures possibilities to be found. So total nothingness exists and it growing equally to the existing thing and it is no end to this proces, so nothingness is endless state equally balancing with already existing things
I’m so beyond grateful to have found this amazing channel ❤️
Thanks a lot for all your work and very interesting videos. I am watching all of them.
Just making one's bed is more profound then this debate.
“Whereof one cannot speak, thereof one must be silent." - Wittgenstein.
That's cos he's deid!
@Tattletale RED I know all this.
@Tattletale Hermès If the cat or dog is more intelligent why am I not reading a post about it from them?
@@atiphwyne5609 If you were as smart as the dogs and cats, you would already know the answer to that.
@@GlossRabban Tell me my most 'intelligent' friend were your parents dogs and cats who taught you how to be so intelligent?
I love the structure Robert is on. I am glad it exists. The 9 levels of nothing is a good rendering.
I actually had to write a 500 word essay in grade 3 on this topic because I was up to no good and when the teacher asked me what I was doing, I answered, “nothing”. I should had held on to that.
Who else thought this as a kid in bed looking at the ceiling
here
Try and remember of before birth. That to me is a notion of nothing and where we are all heading.
Hi friend
J Wyd what’s the difference between there having to be a necessary being vs a necessary universe?
Me, endless sleepless night. Sometimes now as an adult too.. But my own opinion about nothing is, that there never was nothing at all, and that theres always been something. That is why our universe exist at all.
The same idea used to frighten me as a child too. I would formulate it in my head as "What is there supposed be other than our entire existence? What would occupy its place if it didn't exist?"
I like the way Robert Kuhn asks the questions and the different subjects in this videos. Great work and keep it up.
Wow, Dr Kuhn doesn't even have patreon or any of that stuff, he just uploads for fun. Awesome
Nothing describes my cats appreciation for giving him food, cleaning his litter box and living in my house rent free.
Doesn't s/he bring you dead sparrows? Damn freeloader!
Maverick Shaw Nah. Maybe sometimes my cat wants to evict me.
You Mean that he lets you bring him food, letting you clean the litter box. And letting you live in his house rent free.? Perhaps it is time you bring him some dead sparrows you free loader ;)
That cat doesn't even know you own her or him.
Thank you for your post I thought I'd throw in my two cents for whatever is worth probably only two cents I believe my cat even though I delusionally think to be domesticated which rather underneath the surface is a feral life forces reads me and mirrors who I am. Example being come in the door if I get in I stop for a minute and view where the cats are and what they're doing it measures the energy I bring what if we're being tracked all the time it's not what we do or what we say but who we are behind our words. meow meow!
“Nothin’ from nothin' leaves nothin' You gotta have somethin' if you wanna be with me” - song by Billy Preston
Me: Hey, what you up too? Imaginary friend: Nothing much.
i love that this channel allows me to entertain long-held questions, and yet the language used is *usually* simple enough for a high school grad to keep up with. edification right on my level. so good!
With ya there, Modest. Ofttimes I wish that my brains were half as powerful as my curiosity. 😊
I enjoyed this video immensely. An all consuming question that can never be adequately answered.
Sure it can. They're making it more complicated than it is. The problem is he is fundamentally confused about what "Nothing" means. Nothing isn't a thing. It refers to that which does not and cannot exist. It's not merely empty space. It's absolute absence of everything. It's not possible for there to have ever been true nothingness. Physicists often try to speak of 'quantum froth' or a vacuum as though it were nothing, but those are very much somethings. So the question "Why isn't there Nothing?" is incoherent. The real mystery is why is that which does exist the way it is and not something else.
@@b.g.5869 I think the real problem is that you haven't grasped the complexity of this question
@@grattata4364 I think you need to present sound arguments and compelling evidence that would support your assertion. Otherwise your words are irrelevant.
I had the same question and came to the conclusion that, as logic dictates, if there was absolutely nothing, there would have never been anything. Therefore, there must have always been something. We naturally assume that the beginning would be emptiness because we perceive the reality in causality, and causality is derived from the flow of time. From what I’ve learned, the past, present, future, multiverses and everything exist simultaneously.
Exactly. I think the same. Somethingness must be infinte, so everything exists except nothingness.
I fully agree with you.
Does not answer question about why there is something.
I don't think you've studied logic. I don't see any premises leading to conclusions.
Your are absolutely right, i also consider nothing to be begin. For example NOTHING 3 and BEGIN 3 have same 2 properties : 1. They do not exist( can't be found in time( have no energy)) 2. They indiscernible( can't be found in space(have no matter)). And if lost property 1 but not property 2 then BEGIN 3 became ENERGY 3 And if lost property 2 but not property 1 then BEGIN 3 became END 3. And if lost both property's then BEGIN 3 became REAl THING 3. So NOTHING 3 is are BEGIN 3, but any begin means begin of something. Conclusion : Nothing cause something. Nothing we call nothing because it throw out from inner self something and became empty. So more exactly, something cause nothing. Even more: SOMETHING N cause NOTHINGNESS N+1.
Dr. Robert, It’s amazing how you find the right questions for the right person! Closer to Truth is hallmark in human history. Best regards
Closer to Truth is the best thing that has ever happened on this planet so far
From the question "What is Nothing?", immediately, Heidegger comes to my mind, with his short treatise titled "What is metaphysics?" where after an interesting intellectual tour (he finds a surprising explanation by the way) he returns to the question first raised (I think) by Leibniz: “Why are there beings at all, and why not rather nothing?”---But all these eminent contemporary philosophers did not mention anything like that. Why?
Damn you, modal logic! For this entire video all I could picture in my mind is a string of squares, diamonds, and tilde.
very interesting. Thank you for uploading it to KZhead.
Whenever I turn on the news or youtube I seem to loose braincells; except with this type of content so grateful.
When I was seven years old, while seating on a big armchair in our livingroom , this exact question came to my mind. I was alone , so there was no one for me to ask for some help. I tried my best to come up with a solution to this hard question. Of course, no devine answer was sent into my brain to help me out with this bothering question. After a while, I found myself standing on my head while holding to the armchairs's armrests, trying to balance myself. Maybe my despair had driven me to look at the problem from a litterly different angle. And then a new terrifying question appeared in my mind: if nothing was the rule , thus absolutly nothing exists, then surely even nothing can not exist too. But then if even nothing can not exists, then.. Then I fell off the armchair. This is why a lonely child (in a small town at the Israeli Negev dessert in my case) should have at least one or more meaningful adults in his life , who can help him/her out with life's deeper questions.
These guys have a PhD and do not even know what nothing is. How can anyone expect them to know what something is.
Very interesting observation. I feel, if we consider that there are multiverses , then also we can start thinking of nothing only when we are convinced that there is a final border of something ( i.e the physical existence of possible multiverses) . If we consider there is nothing outside that border, but then nothing is also something…….
There had to be Something to think about Nothing, but by thinking about Nothing it becomes something
Can I say how refreshing it is for this content to have atonal theme music? Apparently I can.
The question, instead is, "Is there something?" No mind, no thing.
Exactly, if there would be nothing, you wouldn’t have to ask the question.
I'm way too busy feeding my senses to be concerned about " nothing. " hahahahahaha
I totally agree. It's intriguing to learn of something, and more so of nothing. I doubt we'll ever know or comprehend
A universe coming from nothing makes no sense to me.
A god creating us and then leaving us to suffer at the hands of idiot Democrats makes no sense to me
Yeah me too
Seekthetruth3000 Who said the universe came from nothing?
Something has to come from nothing
@@cherub6723 nothing can't create something
had the same experience, maybe a little younger. I remember riding in the back seat of the car with my parents, we were driving into a Sunset, I was gazing at the clouds, and it hit me. So hard to put in words but something like "what if there was nothing" or, "how could there be anything else". Really cool that others have had similar experiences.
I had the same experience riding in my moms car. I then kept trying to imagine what would nothing look like.
Wdym "how could there be anything else?"
Nothing is completely absent of light, warmth, love, life, joy, magic, meaning, beauty and wisdom.
The very self-contradiction of the question “What if nothing ever existed?” reveals our inherent limitations in considering it. This was, for my money (i.e. next to nothing) one of the best episodes of a series I’ve long admired. The last five minutes detailing the nine potential levels of “Nothing” were positively mind-blowing.
I love how Robert listens intently to some of these answers and, then, ends that segment with a sort of blank expression on his face, as though he doesn't know what to make of what the interviewee just said. He doesn't say anything. He doesn't smirk or smile or screw up his face or anything. He just stares blankly. I'm pretty sure that he's trying to convey the sense that he's not being judgmental, but I get the feeling that it's a subtle criticism of the interviewee's response, just the same. Still, I can't be sure. And that pleases me because I often have a polite WTF? response myself. Ha.
I have noticed this and tend to agree with you. It could also be that he can not figure out how to respond. I think he is brilliant though, based on how many times he asks incredibly pertinent follow up questions.
it's because it's only an excerpt from a longer interview. Often times he is still listening, and you can here the interviewee's voice fade out.
His face = my face
He realises he's just listened to a load of waffle which has brought him no nearer to an Answer..?
I once had this very vivid feeling of nothingness surrounding the everything . I felt everything inside me (it was very exciting) and made a step back, when suddenly I was like dissolving into nothing, and was completely shocked ! I heard this statement from others too . Is here somewhere here who experienced the same ? Because it was so vivid and felt so real I ask myself if there is a reality to it . Bonjour de France les amis ✌😉👍🇫🇷
Yes I’ve had that
Yes after taking psychedelic shoomies
You have experienced emptiness (empty space). It is not the same as "nothingness that Robert is referring to in this video. Emptiness/empty space is something that Chan Buddhism student feel when they meditate. I feel this emptiness as well when I meditate. It is strange at first, but experiencing it a few times and it will feel liberating. It feels free, feels like we are one with the space around us, one with space in the universe. This is a good thing. According to Chan Buddhism, Emptiness/empty space is the basic building block of our universe, the natural state where all things starts from and will return to. I agree with them. Imagine we keep breaking the atom to smaller and smaller pieces all the way to infinity, pass the Plank, what do we get? empty space of course. Chan Buddhism is also known as Zen Buddhism in Japan Robert's "nothing" is different. His "nothingness" is the lack of time, space, matters, lack of everything.
@@misterhill5598 Je m'exprime pas très bien en anglais ! J'ai ressenti (très vivement ) le néant, le rien ,une espèce de vacuité qui m'aspirait et me dissoudait en rien . J'étais choquée, pendant une semaine, après cet événement !...je n'était pas entrain de méditer. J'écoutait le récit de mon frère, à qui ceci était arrivé aussi (celà l'as plongé dans une sévère schizophrénie ). Je ne suis pas sûr de ce que tu veux m'expliquer. I felt dissolved to nothing !!! Like disappearing.
@@misterhill5598 You may be right ! It felt like something "real " ,something inherently stamped in our existence. Something that everyone could experience.
No homo…. I listen to this when going to sleep. His voice is comforting and steady….
I was thinking about really deep existential questions after a mild crisis and when I wake up this recommendation pops up ... I think about the mystery of life and death every day since I am 8 years old...
I have similar emotions...
This video had a lot of character and I enjoyed it. The production value was great and the topic is personally interesting to me
This discussion makes me wonder whether the question, while on face perfectly intelligible, can actually be formulated clearly. We make claims like “it’s possible that…” or “there could have been…” relative to different domains of possibility (physical, logical, mathematical, psychological, historical, etc). It might be true in one sense that “I could have been a fireman” (it involves no logical contradiction; it violates no fundamental law of physics) but not in another sense (maybe the causal history of “me” in the actual world made it determinate that I would not be a fireman). It’s not at all clear to me what we actually mean when we say “there could have been nothing,” because it breaks the assertion breaks the domains that license possibility claims. “Is it physically possible for there to have been no matter, and no laws of physics?” feels a bit like “Is it legal in chess for there to be no chess?” Gramatically the question seems well-formed, but it ends up being a sort of nonsense. The tacit premise is that we can make claims about possibility-as-such not anchored to any particular domain, but it’s not clear to me that’s a coherent thing to do.
So deep, so powerful. Thought provoking💚
What blows my mind about nothing is I always want to by default visualize it as blackness, a black void. But the color black is something. So I literally can't seem to conceive of what nothing looks like
Aristotle: nothing is what a rock sees or: what you see out of your elbow
If there is a mind making or creating another mind the later cant equal the former.
Great episode. I had the same moment when I was young - "What if there hadn't been anything at all?"
I have thought about that many times, what if there is nothing at all! I tried to imagine that, no God, no existence, nothing, just nothing, but then my mind sort of snapback like an elastic band after you stretch it. you can't go beyond a certain point of imagining this. I've come to the conclusion that absolutely nothing cannot exist because even nothing is something so there had to be something even if it was nothing, because nothing is something.
Nothing is impossible! 😄 thought of that by myself
Nothing is also unstable.
nowhere to now here! who woulda thought
Haha good one lol
The question of nothingness is paradoxical as nothingness holds the potential for manifesting everything conceivable and inconceivable
Brilliant as always Robert.
There is no such thing as nothing. There was always something. 😶
Exactly,
That's the more peaceful
This is truly an interesting question, and one that I've considered in great depth... I have come to some conclusions in this matter but the real truth of it is that my reasoning relies as much on intuition as it does on logic so maybe it's not convincing to others. I will say though, that it seems apparent to me that full on nothingness is an unstable state. From nothing, existence must follow. The "level 9" nothingness is logically contradictory. A reality without possibilities is not possible. Ascribing existence to abstract ideas is fallacious. Abstractions by definition have conditional existence. They are conditional on the existence of a mind to conceive them. Abstractions come in two flavors. Some are purely abstract and can be different when conceived by different minds. The concept "freedom" for example - each mind defines it individually and possibly differently. Other abstractions, such as mathematical ones, have a conditional truth-value. If it exists (is conceived) then it must be the same. You can use different languages or name it differently, but the concept of "four" is the same for any mind that conceives it. But even still, it has no existence on it's own; it is dependent on the mind to conceive it. The nonexistence of physical laws is an interesting one. I've not previously thought about that. I'll have to debate that internally for a while before I can solidify an opinion. It feels dishonest to my intuitions, but I can't comment decisively without further thought.
There are over a thousand universes in one particle of air.
You and I fundamentally disagree, it seems. To me, a pure abstract reality such as mathematics does not require a mind to conceive it. The fact that 2 plus 2 equals 4 is timelessly true and cannot be changed. So is the rest of math and logic.
The last man in the red shirt should be offered the role of "architect" in one of the Matrix movies. He is an expert in the act of "rendition of confusing language to bamboozle everyone".
As a kid I was terrified about death. The idea that not only me will be gone when I'm gone, but everything else too, because I'm not there anymore to experience anything. This seemed to me to be very cruel, unjust and unacceptable. I now have a reassuring thougth that I will live forever, because I am finite while the universe is most probably infinite, so it's inevitabe that I will be recreated somewhere sometime. And there are two great wonders: firstly that there is something rather than nothing. Secondly that that something is not just something but so tremendously rich so that complex beings like cats and humans can exist. I think that it still can be true that there is nothing. In that case something somehow is a necessary part of it. That something then is a kind of circular process that totals to zero. I don't think a god made this, because the question is then: where did god come from? If you say god needs no explanation you can save yourself a step and say that the universe needs no explanation (quote of Carl Sagan). But no worries, we can declare the whole of the universe as a great mystical wonder (you may call that god) that defies every explanation. That is more beautiful then some god that is apart from creation, which is dualism. I think it's great that atheism and religion can become one, by admitting everything is a great wonder.
Ps: Thought creates itself and it needs nothing to do so. (Multiple interpretations.....)
Not exactly, first the soul and then thought.
I'm gonna go get high and forget all this
You should get high and PONDER this stuff instead.
10-4
you will forget nothing
I'm gonna go get low and remember all of this
Nothing He sat in the darkness With nothing around Not a sight to be seen Not a thing to be found Not a thing to be found As he sat there alone And thought 'how can i call All this nothing my home' For there's so much inside me To make this alright So in four perfect words He said "Let there be light"
This is so good to hear. Nothing has always been my favorite subject. These guys are thinking about the sameness
The simulation E8 thing appeals to me right now, life is the possibility of maths existing
The Octonions are the last of the division algebras, after the quarternions, complex numbers and the reals.
Reckless Abandon what does reals mean?
Reckless Abandon real number?
You can Fibonacci from a division
Ik about e8 and it's common to see the e8 pattern in altered states of conciousness. Like dmt or shroom experiences can cause the experience of being in the e8 lattice. So reality is living mathematical equations of energy.
The absence of everything!
Louise Bean .....or anything.
Are be salo kaheba
Found out, a helpful channel. thank you👍. Ur steady rigorous voice and oratory skill are so impressive
There is already something (laws, broken symmetry etc.) rather than Nothing (symmetry and order) once chosen not by choice: 1= Nothing i.e. ON and bright 0= Something i.e. OFF and dark Our world is currently 0 = 1+ (-1) i.e OFF and dark where we are already chosen into something rather than nothing. Another explanation is that time initially is zero (OFF and Dark) and move forward to finally One (Nothing and Bright). In layman term, Initial zero, when we were born and finally One, when we die. Suggest closer to truth.
I love this guy's videos
There is already something (laws, broken symmetry etc.) rather than Nothing (symmetry and order without time and space) once chosen not by choice: 1= Nothing i.e. ON and bright 0= Something i.e. OFF and dark Our world is currently 0 = 1+ (-1) i.e OFF and dark where we are already chosen into something rather than nothing. Another explanation is that time initially is zero (OFF and Dark) and move forward to finally One (Nothing and Bright). In layman term, Initial zero, when we were born and finally One, when we die. Suggest closer to truth.
If something appeared from nothing then where and when this thing appeared if there is neither where nor when? It's very disturbing, it can make you lose your sleep. The answer could be that there is indeed nothing, the only phenomenon that exists is consciousness.
..''the only phenomenon that exists is consciousness''. Is this nothing?
When and where are “things” that appear from nothing, in consciousness
@@glenemma1 It's possible consciousness could have evolved out of nothing. If nothingness started perceiving itself it would cease to be nothing and become a point in space. So it goes from being nothing to becoming two things, a point and space. And then there was math, universe, everything. Or the universe just created itself in it's own future and there was never and will never be any nothing, easy answer. Personally I think it started with nothing though.
@@daniel4647 That is a good response. Nothing to me is nothing and I don't understand how it could change. How could it begin perceiving itself ? Even calling nothing ''it'' makes no sense. You can't call it anything. There is nothing there. Nothing is impossible to imagine, or to conceive in any way, because as soon as we do, we are turning it into something. Nothing literally doesn't exist. I think there is ''something'' which never began, is always, outside of time and space, and inconceivable to us. We are like figures in a painting who become aware and are trying to describe the artist who created the picture. We come up with some great answers ( to us), but we may be so far off the mark it's not funny.
depends what universe model you go with. if you live in a membrane universe, then it is matter of time, at some point your "braine" will collide and kick off another universe. the energy generated generates the fields/particles/matter. if you live in a singularity universe, you are a point that one day quantum fluctuations came along and sprung a universe to life, on long time scales stuff happens, including stuff like emerging universes. OR you live in the singularity universe and your universe is series of expansions collapses and reexpansions. then you need to dig back to the very start? see above i guess. OR you believe in multiverse theory which acts much like quantum theory in that anything will eventually happen on very long time scales.
Nothing 10 : no impossibilities. Hence from absolute Nothing, everything will spontaneously appear.
Nothingness created Something so that the concept of Nothing becomes meaningful and significant. It is only because there is Something that the concept of Nothing becomes meaningful. Nothingness created Something so that we can speculate and wonder about Nothing.
If there are "no impossibilities" then there are no possibilities either.
@@Balu9979 why do you spam this nonsense. Ill say it again, ANY attributes you give nothing, makes that a thing, not a nothing. Nothing cannot have abilities. You cannot see your own eyes with only your own eyes. You can only see forward. What is behind your area of vision? That is nothing, the area of vision you cannot see also cannot be given any attributes, there it is nothing. Not having attributes is not an attribute, bald is not a hair style, you need hair to have hair style.
@@thegoodlistenerslistenwell2646 Nothing and Something have been co-existing together since eternity. In fact, ancient philosophies called them by another name, manifest and unmanifest. Nothing and Something are contained in each other.
@Zameen Z Take ALL of your accounts and troll elsewhere.
All That Is, is the excitation of Nothing(ness). Yes, I have experienced Nothing(ness) all my childhood and youth. The last episode was at the age of 18 years when I finally figured that my duty was to Live, and to fill the Nothing with my Life. Since then I have not experienced Nothing(ness) again. Now, at 70 years of age I give my Self and Soul to Nothing(ness) as I feel that I am It’s child. And in return I feel such a sublime Love, so warm, so divine…..
Love closer to truth !!
I love your programmes but find the constant ads ruin the flow of discussion.
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There's no such thing as nothing, there never was.
Haa Haaa
He forgot number 9 no blackness or darkness
There is a such thing as nothing after all. It’s replies in this thread.
Ant orious Or it can be ironic humor. There’s generally more than two options.
@@domersgay28647 Blackness and darkness can't exist without spacetime.
So many times I’ve asked the same question during the earliest times of the morning, when it seemed to me the strangest question anyone could ever ask.
I love this show I thought bout this all the time
it's so boring that It had to create everything to cope
Nothing couldn't be bored if it never knew what entertainment is. Nothing will always be nothing thats it. Lol
@Stefano Portoghesi 💪🏾
@@MrGODINTHEMAKING there must have been currents of energy in the abyss...those currents became melodies and gave the nothing a kiss...thus the seed was born
@@Scribe13013 🤣🤣🤣😆🙌🏽
@Scribe13 : Depeche Mode - Nothing - 101 kzhead.info/sun/nrZrdZiBqpFson0/bejne.html
In Hindu philosophy, this "nothingness" is called "Shiva". Everything originates from nothingness and goes back to nothingness. This is the realm where mathematics breaks. It's where zero and Infinity co exist as a single entity.
I maintain that there is no coexist. 0=infinity. It is not 2 it is not even 1 it is 0 Shunyata means zero
Currently yes, algebra breaks when u reach the transantantal number ie: pi and e. But give math a chance it's only currently 12000years old. And hasn't quite catched up to physics yet.
@@Kram668 Mathematics only applies to "something" as opposed to "nothing". We have fancy ways of setting boundaries in math - zero & infinity. Physics only explains reality. The reality is that everything has to be contained in something (like stars in a galaxy, galaxies in the universe, universe in who-knows-what) you keep going up the hierarchy until you say everything is contained in nothing. That's a hard thing to refute.
@@karthikdevaraj9040 well said. I'm with u all the way until "until… ". My train of thought would say instead "… until you say every thing is contained in [something eternal]". I have hight hops in time that eternal thing will be 'Math'. I mean it already exists outside time and space ^_^ (well if u in the camp that math is discovered, scratch that if u think it's invented :)
@@karthikdevaraj9040 +just processed what u were realy saying about 0. I guess we differ because I don't believe 0 is really their, aka his def is like a revers-footprint somehow only. Following that thought, maths could be all around nothing… *sight* time to turn myself off and on again.
soon as you even think about nothing it becomes something
Best channel on KZhead. Nothing, and I repeat, nothing is quite like it.
Haven't seen nothing whats it like.If nothing is quite like it you must have seen nothing.
“Something” is dependent on ‘nothing” to exist, and vice versa. The “something” is an emergent property of “nothing.” There are 2 possible states. “Something” and “nothing.” The time-space medium does not exist in the moments between the “somethings.” So on an infinite scale of the “True universe” ’ the moments between the birth and decay of matter, or observable universe , aka “something” is inconsequential. The observable (something) universe can phase in and out over what could be considered as a zillion to the zillionth power number of years, but it’s observed as instant, because time doesn’t exist in “nothing.’ The logical result is that “something’ must always exist, and “nothing” must always not exist. “Nothing’ can never be experienced, observed, or measured. We are always flanked by “nothings” but they are invisible to our awareness. The only awareness we have are the moments of something, between the periods of “nothing.’ Like the spaces between frames on a movie reel. It’s just that those frames can be 1 mm wide, or 400k miles wide. The net effect is the same, we ONLY see the “somethings” regardless of the area between the movie frames. So the only thing that ever exists, even on an infinite scale, are the ‘somethings.”
There is already something (laws, broken symmetry etc.) rather than Nothing (symmetry and order without time and space) once chosen not by choice: 1= Nothing i.e. ON and bright 0= Something i.e. OFF and dark Our world is currently 0 = 1+ (-1) i.e OFF and dark where we are already chosen into something rather than nothing. Another explanation is that time initially is zero (OFF and Dark) and move forward to finally One (Nothing and Bright). In layman term, Initial zero, when we were born and finally One, when we die. Suggest closer to truth.
The most beautiful comment here on this video. Put more simply: Nothing by it's very definition cannot exist, therefore, there must always be something.
I just thought something here. The question: "why does something exist in the universe instead of nothing?" made me come to the conclusion that something exists because nothingness is impossible, otherwise it would be the default mode of the universe (in this case, obviously it wouldn't exist). Therefore, nothingness exists only as a mental concept, not as a material, physical reality (again for obvious reasons, it is an analytical judgment), so the universe is something and everuthing, because nothingness is simply impossible other than as a concept.
Damn bloody good thinking. Why would the nothingness have to be the default mode though (of the universe)? How did you come to that? Just an assumption to continue the concept maybe? Why would nothingness couldn't exists, physically speaking? I like your idea i want to know more ^^
@@Mystipaoniz because it's easier not to have anything than to have something. it's just easier not to exist matter and energy instead of them existing, you know? physically speaking. I also think a lot about the beginning of the universe, and I've often come to the conclusion that it is actually eternal, and eternity is just another concept the human mind has a hard time comprehending. but then there's the thing with the stretching of the universe that might indicate it did have beginning, so I'm still uncertain with this... And about nothingness, well, it works well as an abstract concept, but if you'd have this nothingness materially speaking, then you woudln't have anything, exactly because it's nothing. it can't exist objectively, because it's not a form, not a color, not a sound, not anything. it's just a word, it exists just philosophically or poetically speaking, not actually external to our minds...
@@LadyLazarus1027 Alright thanks for the fast answer ^^ I was ready to sleep though but i'll come back and think about what you said here. I'm dumbed down by the fatigue now, i wrote some comments there, drains my energy. And i'm not the smarter also so i need time haha Cheers! :)
@@Mystipaoniz hahah take your time, this is the kind of question you can spend a lifetime thinking about. sweet dreams to you, don’t have nightmares with the nothingness ;)
@@LadyLazarus1027 The more i read the more question i have ^^ I don't understand why nothing could not exist, materially speaking. :( Am i dense? ^^ Why is it easier to have nothing than something? (physically speaking) I mean. If we don't know about the nothing, how can we be sure about the characteristics of it? And therefore say that it is easier to have nothing than something.
I love these deep thinking questions I love to find answers and come up with the best one that I can find to be the right answer.great video and I love ur work and dedication to find the ultimate and biggest question on the beginning and god.thank you.♥️🙏🌎
We cannot say anything meaningful about nothingness. Nothingness is self-fulfilling. It is “not”. Thus even trying to fathom it is meaningless.
Nobody: Absolutely no one: Nothing. Both *Neil Degrasse Tyson* and *Robert Lawrence Kuhn* upload a video about "nothing" only 5 hours apart.
Can you provide me the link? Which channel?
@@lematrixhafis kzhead.info/sun/n8eSgLBrqmSDoK8/bejne.html StarTalk
Nothing can t exist because if you use the word exist it refers to anything
I love watching "Closer to Truth" because they entertain great thought exercises and it is fun to speculate. However, one has to accept the fact that we will never arrive at an answer by speculating. The answers, the True Nature of Reality, is simply beyond our ability to know. I suppose that there could come a time when some answers are revealed to Mankind but that would be because a higher power decided to share such knowledge, not because we postulated the question for hundreds of years.
TheBruce56 You are speculating that a "higher power" actually exist. Then you speculate that this "higher Power" would know the true nature of reality somehow. Then you speculate that this "higher Power" would chose some particular temporal time to suddenly decide to reveal the True Nature of Reality to mankind?? Over the last 200,000 years we have gone from grunting beast living in caves to being able to control fire, to making tools, to discovering the earth is round to mapping the solar system and the galaxies to developing string theory and quantum mechanics. All of these discoveries was from speculating "what if". Everything is beyond our grasp until we grasp it. Then we set the bar higher and keep going. None of these revelations was revealed to us by a higher power. Some speculate that that advanced quantum computers will allow us to duplicate our brains and download our minds into storage simulations that would essentially give immortality. Now with an unlimited amount of time and with the help of giant quantum computers, we could speculate about things that, currently, is beyond our capabilities. The trick is we are constantly upgrading our capabilities till the impossible is realized. It all starts with "what if"
@@randyorr9443 In my case I am not speculating about a higher power, I know there is one. The exact nature of which I can not say but without it none of the things you mention would have come about. There have been all sorts of hominids but modern man has existed for 75,000 to 100,000 years at the most. That amount of time is the blink of an eye next to the deep time of the cosmos and as you rightly point out, look what we have accomplished. We are incredibly unique among life on earth although we share similar biological systems because we exist in the same physical environment. The great apes, dolphins and other high order animal existed long before us and still exist today largely the same as they were then. Mankind has made unbelievable progress and we will continue to do so. This ability has been built into us and it is clear that from the beginning man has been hardwired to know he has a creator. The earliest archeological discoveries bear this out and it is the reason for the manmade creation of religions. They are simply man attempting to connect with his creator. I don't know how this story ends but I know that we have been imbued with abilities and intellect that far exceed those necessary to survive and thrive. Maybe we are being watched. Under different circumstances someone once said to me "The only thing you need to know about a higher power is that it isn't YOU". Our abilities and accomplishments are due to a gift. Stay humble my friend.
@@TheBruces56 Thank you sir for your thoughtful reply, seriously. You seem like a good and thoughtful person. From my perspective, it seems like a way less humble stance to declare that you are somehow the Oracle of special knowledge given to you by God Almighty. It would seem to be a more humble stance to declare that right now I do not know what existence is. All that I really know is that i'm a finite organism of some sorts trying to evolve and scratch out some meaning on a speck of dust in the back waters of one of possibly a trillion galaxies. This humble stance fills me with the gratitude to understand how precious life, love, friends, family, laughter, and empathy for others really is. Nothing personal, just enjoying a good philosophical banter on the nature of true humility. I would enjoy hearing how you know for a fact that there is a God. -Peace Brother
@@randyorr9443 I appreciate your position, it is one that I shared. I am far from declaring myself an Oracle of God. In my case I had an experience years ago that was not sought but left me a changed and humbled man. Part of that change was the absolute certainty that there is a plane of existence beyond our perceived reality. Our reality is not what we think it is. God can be many things to many people. I do not claim to know the nature of "God" but I do know that there is a higher power that was the source for us. My experience was a personal one and I am the only one that could testify to it. I do not expect others to put any stock in it but I am comfortable with that. This happened long before KZhead but when I saw "Closer to Truth" I was fascinated because his "Holy Grail" quest was to answer a question that I have always had myself, "Why is there anything at all". I still don't know.
@@TheBruces56 You and I are way more alike than different my friend. When you say "I do not claim to know the nature of "God" but I do know that there is a higher power that was the source for us" is it not similar to my stance which is: "I do not know what existence is but I do understand that our current best science tells me that all of existence emerges from the unified field of quantum possibilities which is scientifically explained by string theory's wave function equation." String Theory predicts many extra dimensions of reality that we cannot detect directly. I think perhaps we are saying the same thing just using different words and language.
Hi, thanks again for the fantastic work. I think that the asked question here is really why something need to have a reason ? The causation principle is elevated to absolute necessity without saying it, that’s a seems to be the flaw in such question ...
So from the other side of the fence... if there was nothing, we wouldnt know it. There would be nothing to know.
True nothing is inconceivable. Just the question "What IS nothing." makes no sense at all. Nothing can't be something. Even our language can't deal with the concept. Personally I do not believe there was ever nothing, there can't be nothing, I think, because nothing can't BE. We can not even imagine nothing, because then we imagine something. There is not way around it. Absolute nothingness is a ridiculous concept. The closest I come to the experience of nothingness is listening to a theologian.
the thing i dont understand about your point is why does the inconceivability of a concept make it impossible?
And yet we get taught that the big bang created everything including matter and energy. Then we're told energy cannot be created nor destroyed. Physical reality is probably infinitely bigger than we can grasp. Science sees old stars dying and new stars being created all the time. Perhaps the big bang for our observable universe was just a new universe being created in a much larger dimension where trillions upon trillions of similar or indeed larger universes are continually being created.
@S Gloobal Ha I can't even imagine there's no elephant in my bedroom.
It can, and it's existence might be the sprout of all existence
If Nothing didn't exist, Everything would have no bounds.
There never has been nothing! Even theists would agree with that!
I can prove you wrong
Observing only vision, what is behind your area of vision. Because there are no characteristics that can describe the lack of vision, this is nothing, and its possible for you to be aware of it, you can notice that you dont see behind your eyes. This is metaphysical nothingness. It has to be metaphysical because this is information based.
@@thegoodlistenerslistenwell2646 Observed or not, a pre-existing universe is quite possible.
@@_a.z did you read the part where i said my statement is only information based? But, your statement is possible. Its completely fine for you to say that, as long as you know its speculation only.
@@thegoodlistenerslistenwell2646 : " I can prove you wrong ". GO AHEAD . . . . . . .MAKE MY DAY ( ahahahahahah )
There are people out there that have spent their whole working lives thinking about nothing, and what have they all come up with?......NOTHING.
When I died there was nothing. Never felt such peace. Can’t wait to die forever
And then God said: Let there be nothing! Promptly God no longer exists.
@ C Lam : Do You think THAT Would Be Possible ? ?
@@tomdi-grazia5243 God is so poweful, that if he decides to. He can stop existing.
@@GlossRabban : Tell me, Kim : How Do You Personally Know So Much About "God" ? Is "HE" a personal relative of yours ? (by-the-way, are you quite sure its a HE and not a SHE, or some other gender ?) Dear Kim ; the fact of the matter is that WE are all born utterly ignorant, and through education in a number of scientific fields of study (mathematics, physics, chemistry, biochemistry, biology, physiology, genetics & epi-genetics, brain-mind research, psychology, etc.) over the many years that we live on this planet we put two and two together, and using what we have learned about "LOGIC" we make Deductions and Inductions and arrive at certain Conclusions or Conjectures. Theories. But in the end, we Really Have NO IDEA as to what the Ultimate Truth Is. Religious People, on the other hand, from when they are small children are indoctrinated with certain beliefs (depending in which country they are born) in the same way that children are told about Father Christmas, or The Fairies At The Bottom of The Garden, and so forth, and they carry these NON--Sense Beliefs to their graves. Scientists, on the other hand, Do Not Believe In Anything. They Require PROOF, Ultimately EXPERIMENTAL PROOF, That Can Be Repeated by Anyone Over, and Over, and Over Again. I have NO IDEA AT ALL As To What "god" Is or Is Not. I Have Never Had The Pleasure of Being Introduced To Such a Being, and It Seems To Me That Anyone Who "Believes" In Such Things Is DEMENTED. My Very Best Wishes To You, Kim. Bye tom di-grazia (76) MELBOURNE / AUSTRALIA.
@@tomdi-grazia5243 You do know that I am just joking right?
@Ant orious Schrödingers cat, is that you?
To me “nothing is where everything stands on”. We got “plenty” of it. How could you say it doesn’t exist ? We come from nothing and go back to it, don’t we agree? What or where were you before you were born ? In seriousness, it is just our minds that play games with ourselves. We always compare north with south, positive with negative, black and white,... but, they all are part of the same. ONENESS is all “there is”, our minds produce difference and similarities. We create borders, can you tripped in the Ecuador line? Spirits came out of our minds..... all I am saying comes out of my head, we describe and give meaning to existence the way we’ve been conditioned. Is it our “minds” bigger than .....???
Right, all "things" are our minds' creation and they don't exist. All "things" are within Everything and we create them by dividing Everything into "things."
But, you separate yourself as you say all this. You have the ability to separate and make things, you are apart of this universe, so this universe has the ability to separate and make things.
@@djacob7 please read what i said, id like your thoughts too.
@@thegoodlistenerslistenwell2646 I don't separate myself because there is no self to separate. "I" am a bunch of atoms - integral with the universe, not a part of it. I am it.
@@djacob7 and yet you said, im a "bunch" of atoms...plural....
Love this beautiful channel. That’s a great question. Now I’m wondering. Very interesting question and great topic.
Me: *watching this video* My wife: "Whatchu thinkin' about?" Me: "Nothing."
"Where's the contradiction in God not existing?" Seriously!?
Just goes to show you how desperate and intransigent the god believers are. And is ultimately the root of all the evil religion has wrought.
@@EmeraldView What saying things you know not
@@EmeraldView so non concious and non intelligent processes rule reality? Sounds way more stupid and non logical than religion.
@@lucifer.Morningstar369 What do you mean by 'rule reality'? How about you explain how a complex cognizant aware thinking doing being just always existed. We have evidence of order arising out of disorder via the known physical processes of the universe, and we know how this works. We have mountains of evidence of evolution of life on Earth and pretty good handle on how that works and how increasingly complex life can develop from that. Yes, it is far more reasonable to believe that non-thinking fields, forces, potentials, the whole panoply of sub atomic quantum probabilistic vibrations, simply existed and always existed and has over the infinite eons of that existence found occasion to develop in to a low entropy manifestation like our universe. As for religion, the thing heaped on top of this 'god' belief (often going hand-in-hand with it), that's even more absurd. To think that this thinking intelligent being, in the unimaginable vastness of our universe, is intimately concerned with the lives, the wishes, and desires, of what would be vastly lower intelligent beings stuck to the tiniest of motes of dust in that inconceivably vast universe.
@@EmeraldView most of those are just assumptions. Assumption evidence of things we really don't fully understand.if existence were non concious and non intelligent then concious beings like us wouldn't exist. The observer is fundamental, you think if no concious beings existed all you would have is mechanical non intelligent processes floating around, absurd. I've experienced my true self along with millions of others, underneath this little human identity is In fact existence itself, the fundamental concious observer. It's pretty complex aswell, and you ask how could a observer be eternal and non created? Well that can go for anything because the human mind on the surface can't grasp eternity but our true self can, when under this altered state all of it makes perfect sense. We will never get the truth until we realize we are not seperate creations of the universe or existence, we exist on purpose. CIA has documents called gateway process that explains conciousness is non local and our minds can experince it.
Equally vexing is how could there always have been something. Contemplating this deeply enough can be frightening and lead to the notion that existence is impossible.
It is as difficult to imagine a universe of nothing as a universe of something.
Like I commented on the "why is there everything" video Which is we cannot comprehend nothing because we live in everything.
In the first paragraph of narration, he says, "what if there were nothing, forever...? Without even getting into the argument about the concept of "nothing" not even being logical or even possible, he said "nothing forever." Now you've given the thing an attribute by saying, "forever". So, If nothing else is The Thing that last forever. It's easy to get deep in the woods almost topic. But, it is pretty fun to think about.
In my opinion it's impossible to even think about nothing because as soon as you do you make it something. The closest we will ever get to nothing while alive is sleep without dreaming.
I was thinking the same. Recently I had a kidney procedure and had to be for the first time in my life fully anesthetized for a couple of hours. I just remember seeing the respiration mask being put in my face, and in what seems like a blink of an aye, I was in another room, with my wife next to me. It could have been 2 hours, or it could have been millions of years, I would just felt that fraction of a second and it terrified me a little bit to think death must be just that, an eternal nothing. No concept of time or place. No awareness, no senses at all. With the only difference that you don't even have the possibility of waking up one day.
@@ItaloBarbiero To me that's actually comforting, the thought that terrifies me is that if I got tired of living and wanted to kill myself, I'll be instantly reborn as something else, thus I can never escape life, I'm forced to live
The nothing could be where you are born from, or where the idea pop out of, or asking to desbribe what you see behind your head. But even there we kind of make up something, maybe nothing is facinating because we cant think it.
What that guy said about since we know there is something then in nothing there would at least have to be the possibility of something which no longer makes it nothing, that makes a lot of sense. That's pretty much definite proof that true nothing is impossible. That also sort of answers why is there something, because it's possible. Good video.
Thanks!