Panjabis of Southall
2019 ж. 22 Шіл.
247 730 Рет қаралды
70 years of Struggles and Achievements
This oral history documentary tells the story of early pioneering Panjabis who migrated to Southall in the 1950s and 1960s, their journey, settlement & struggles to establish themselves at work, in housing, in business and cultivate cultural activities for their community.
It features information on early Panjabi settlers, development of key organisations such as Sri Guru Singh Sabha, IWA, Southall Youth Movement and landmark national campaigns and struggles for Sikh Rights and against racial inequality and injustice.
The Indian community has contributed a lot to this country , upmost respect from an East London Boy.
Thanks for paying respect............. Sikhs are here for humanity
Don't forget the Pakistani punjabi community
@@kamranhashmi1575 yep they're forgotten
yes by being looted of their natural resources 😂😂
Diversity is their strength
As a Punjabi in Hong Kong from a business family, I am filled with admiration, respect and joy in watching this and learning how my own people strived and thrived in Southall with dignity and compassion for each other. I fold my hands to all our brothers and sisters in the UK. 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
Proud to be punjabi sikh. Waheguru ji ka khalsa Waheguru ji ke fateh
I'm so proud that my father, the late Gurcharan Singh was included in this. Generally, that whole generation did so much for us to have a better life than would otherwise have been the case. Their sacrifices were immense.
Randeep Singh buttar became Randeep buttar?
@@tanishqsinghbajwa4542 Don't get it twisted. ALWAYS SINGH.
@@Randelissimo oh, sorry
Yes they made sacrifices. I grew up In Southall in the 60‘s i know all these persons being interviewed“. So proud to be a Punjabi and from Southall. I moved to Austria due to Work but have never forgotten my roots or my home. My parents still live there since they arrived in 1958.
I was a young girl living in Greenford (small town close by) in the early-mid 70’s when a wave of immigrants came and settled in Southall. They went through hell! The way the Govt did things back then really angered a lot of the neighbouring communities and kind of set them up to fail (giving them govt. housing and putting them at the top of the lists ahead of people who had been waiting for years for example) there was soooo much tension and animosity it was almost unbearable. I didn’t really understand it as a child, I just made friends with whoever I liked, regardless of my parents being extremely racist. Some of the hardest working people I have ever met and a really tight knit community, they forged ahead in a new country despite all the barriers they had to face and flourished.
That's the Punjabi way. Britain bisected India especially Punjab and Bengal. In Punjab, many lost everything and had to migrate from Pakistan to India and start again, millions dying in riots.
@Lorraine, the Indians were given any preference over white people. They didn't all through their hard work despite the barriers, racism, physical attacks and even one racist murder of engineering student Gurdip Singh Chaggar. Police, government, media as well as the locals were against the Indians and other immigrants
@@humanentity2214 a lot of the people from the Indian subcontinent became shaheeds in ww2 . Big up to the Sikhs Hindus and Muslim soldiers that died fighting for Britain. They paved the way forward for us. Respect from a uk born Bangladeshi 🇧🇩
Being in a foreign country is difficult. As for Indians who came to South Africa.Worked as slaves on sugar cane fields in 1860. As you know Indians worked hard .Over time they bought land,built schools etc. Today we reap the benefits. Love from South Africa
@@sushilashukla1289 I was born in Southall, grew up in it, had to leave because I felt like I was in a foreign country, no offence but if you are white English there is nothing there for you, it's completely changed beyond recognition. You very rarely hear English being spoken. Am just speaking from a non Asian point of view. When the first few Asians came, they probably felt, the way we now feel, because they are the majority in that area now. I don't mean any offence, I am just being truthful
My mum came to Britain in the 1950's from Grenada and lived in Southall. There was a unity back then with the Asian and Caribbean community because of their shared experiences of racism.
Unfortunately this racism exist till now.
@@explorarmizan4454 nonsense
@@tinabaker4662 whatever. For you whites it will always gonna be nonsense. For the Asians and the brown people it's a different story. Your white men how they have treated us in the land of so called democracy and equality only we know.
@@tinabaker4662 how do u know?
Yes
Thank you for the history of Southall that has to enlightenment my views on Punjabi peoples' journey in London has not been without pains. I am proud of all Punjabis worldwide that they contributed always to the social communities and demands!
you are not punjabi
@@user-dz4pb2ll3k I am Punjabi by birth.
@@rubyakhtar8006 you are muslim
Majority of Punjab is in pakistan and not India and pure punjabi is spoken in pakistan and not India.
@@manimalik6505 is it so necessary to belittle others to defend yourself. In what context do you think that 'pure' punjabi is not spoken in the other side? That guy even seems to be a Muslim so why do you have to come at us?
Well done to community of Southall, for fighting discrimination racists and driving them out of Southall. Asians all over UK looked up to Southall
Punjabis are great. I like Punjabi Culture the most.
The real working class heroes of that time .... Can relate so much as first generation of immigrant in Australia 🦘
I felt very sad when I heard the story of our indian punjabi brothers and elders. WaheGuru please be us, we love all.
Our parents worked hard bless them❤❤❤
So many hardships nd efforts behind the establishment of punjabi society by our forefathers,i salute you all who bear hardships on there own by putting heads down for their coming genertions.
No matter where I live but I always call that I am from southall. The best place to feel the vibes of Punjab n feel at home . Like any other place southall has changed like Asians moved the whites out but now punjabis are moving out n other communities are moving in . Remember going to malkeet singh’s gig in dominion theatre in 88
I remember going to ladies only at the cinemas in wednesday afternoons. The Indian women used to dress up walk up the bridge to Dominion and Century Cinema and watch their heroes! In peace with their kids us running up and down the aisles ! Great times and great women they were tough cookies as Shabnam Sharma said. Ps Shabs its me Sabina..
Great story. Hard work pays off
Credit to the character of the first generation who came faced so much discrimination yet they are a success story.
Southall businesses were booming and great back then. Southall has changed and no longer how it used to be, the old days were great and fun.
@Channel, Southall isn't like how it was between the 70s and 90s
PROUD TO Be A PUNJABI.
Guy with half a beard, respect!
Why he has half bread
May be he had stroke or something
Mum always told me that her dad came n stayed at Southall but it was hard for him. Sad how we take everything for granted..
Totally agree There was a unity back then with the Asian community because of their shared experiences of racism.
This unity is back again. And the Englishman is not liking it. He loves disunity.
@@explorarmizan4454 the English are masters of "divide and conquer"
Kind of eye opening, thanks for this report
Displaced people from Punjabi Pakistan in the 1940s who were forced to migrate made their way to London, including my Uncle. So proud of the people of Punjab and Pakistan who have adopted equality, karma, sharing with the needy and keeping our hearts aligned with the divine - sharing it with the world as we enter the age of ignorance and deceit.
My forefathers from Jullundur in India and then moved to Lyalpur now Faisalabad after partition.always please to hear Jullundur accent
Mine were from Faisalabad and now in Jalandhar
We had land in laypyr
I am from same area brother .
My mother was also born in lyalpur
@WITHOUT. 6.1M views wah jatta ta bala kuj janda
My uncles shop “Gifto Cash n Carry”. Lived in Southall for a few months then moved To Manchester. Revisited back in March 2019 for a few hours. It has changed a lot...old memories
Yes I’m from Southall. This is the most moving thing I’ve seen the Southall rights I never saw pictures of it even though we did not go to school that day.
Respect , Respect , Respect,Gratitude ,to all the pioneers for giving us what we now take for granted
You made me 😢cry so 👍true
@Bains Broadcasting LTD. not gujarati. only punjabi. we are not indians we are KHALSA warrior spirit is in our blood
Proud to be Punjabi from Pakistan , Balay Balay , Beautiful video (Please start a series of interviewing people about life now and than)
How long could they have stayed on tge slow burn? They had to put their own differences aside, stand together shoulder to shoulder and fight racism. Your struggles will not be forgotten. We are here because of you.
Valuable artifact of history. Thanks for sharing.
Brilliant documentary!!! Lived in Southall for couple of months.. Amazing place !!!! Originally from Nepal.. but live in Cornwall now miss the place miss the samosas, chaat, panipuri and jalebi.. we used to watch Bollywood movies in Himalaya takees. Miss the old days 👍
Don't know how long ago you lived there, but it's an awful place now, I was born there, grew up there, and it has deteriorated badly, along with the surrounding towns. Overpopulated, congested, dirty, a very deprived area. I have found memories of living there, but it changed
@@maryduffy2036 I agree it has changed a lot not what it use to be, crowded and doesn't feel the same now.
Big up all those who paved the way ⚔️💪🦁
So true 👍
I salut these guys, who paved the way for the next generation to the prosperity and less painful times.
They did alot for kids nd generations to come.
Lovely 👌🏻 Greetings from Scotland 😊 Have a wonderful day everyone 🌻
Thanks for sharing your experiences.
I am happy to see seikh punjabi love them ❤ from uk wahid
allah kutta
My father came in UK 1962, from Africa with 6 children, (and his faith)... he did alot of Sewa within the small southall community., no Gurdwara, therefore they did sewa in Peoples house, Langar was also made in peoples houses, they also used to use Beaconsfield School for services & did kirtan at night times...l remember Shakleton Hall as we also did Kirtan there on Sundays...than later at Bingo Hall on Beaconsfield Road, later there was a Hall behind the Social Security Building in Old Southall...where my young brothers and their friends used to lay the sheets before my father and his friends used to do Kirtan.....(in the early 60's)...It was hard work...as he went to work as early as 6 in the morning, come home teach Kirtan to his children & sewa and kirtan every Sundays....hence kept the community close through our faith and social gatherings......
Are u livin happy now
@@jatjeonamorh of course... but missed out on growing up with cousins in Indian... that stayed there ....after parent left.... But....now... Prity's Law...? lol
@@amykaur7984 okayy better move 2 canada also situation’s so tense in southall all the same for 30 yrs ..
@@amykaur7984 ther’s so many of punjabiss in canada so manny
@@jatjeonamorh mustn't complain...
Lived in Southall 7 years. Nice time and people. Nice gurudwara. Devote d Sikh people in everyday karma yoga seva. BBKJ Herakhan
Growing up in Coventry was very similar problems around the same time. Certain areas were red zone's for us. We often went Southall for shopping trip's 🙏
What do you mean by red zones ? And which year we are talking about ? Please tell.
born in cov 76 walsgrave hospital
Oye hoy! chuk de fatte,oye balle...balle....
Another great video on the history and struggles ofthe Southall people and the IWA. Everyone should know about this
The IWA was of doubtful importance and some of its dealings were shady. These people make documentaries for their own glorification, but half the story has never been told.
Nice video 👍
Great old memories. 🙏🙏
Respect for these great people
Its a shame, the values of community and brotherhood have eroded over the years...I would love to have been part of this era
@Makepunjab greatagain so what are you doing here then?? More or less every country as changed from those days. Even punjab. Fact.
@Makepunjab greatagain yes I agree with you on that one. But whole of society as changed. People don't love and respect each other anymore. It's all greed now. Sad times really. God bless you and your family.
@Makepunjab greatagain EDUCATION IS IMPORTANT SELF REALIZATION IS IMPORTANT NOWADAYS CHILDREN DON'T NEED ELDERS ADVICE WHICH CAN BE RIGHT OR WRONG THE COMPUTER IS THERE TO GIVE THEM RIGHT INFORMATION THEY ARE MORE INTELLIGENT AND MOST OF THE TIME NOW DAYS THEY DO THE RIGHT THINGS BEFORE ELDERS USED TO DICTATE THEM AND PUT THEM UNDER THEIR COMMAND AND PRESSURIZE THEM TO DO WHAT THEY WANT NOWADAYS CHILDREN ARE FREE TO THINK AND DO WHAT THEY THINK IS RIGHT THEY HAVE THEIR FREEDOM AND THEIR BORN RIGHT MOST OF TODAY'S CHILDREN ARE MORE AWARE AND DO THE RIGHT THING AND CAN THINK MORE RATIONALLY IN FACT IF YOU NEED ADVICE YOU CAN GET IT FROM THEM AND THEY WILL GIVE YOU THE RIGHT ADVICE JUST TRY AND SEE
@Jay same here
Good to know
Punjabis of Canada should watch this and remember their days rather than not helping students of Punjab who go there for their career. Support them !
Very good information. With best wishes
Amazing
Original Punjabi elders endured difficult life resulting in good times for their decendents like those who first went to East Africa.
Good people
I remember mum getting sabji from fresh food fare and fruits of paradise back in the day
Brings back memories when I lived in Southall. My dad was a dedicated man with iWA. My mum worked at magntax.
My dad was with IWA as well.
@@amandeepv what was your dads name?
@@kimbinning152 Iqbal
@@amandeepv ok 👍🏻 thnx
@@kimbinning152 they all know him there ,he worked in the office till only recently of the IWA before his illness. Ajit Rai was his friend among with others who have now passed.
Thank you! 😁
Yaar, great just great to hear how self employed Punjabis started their own businesses!👍🏼🙏🏼
..they did alot for britain..and britain has generally been fair. All those stuck in Uganda, Kenya, Tanzania, Fiji, even Singapore & Malaysia...never had it as good who took the risk to go up to Britain...
Sidney bidwel came to my nan's house to grant my mother an indefinite leave to remain in the uk as a Kenyan citizen!..The memories of that moment where I was a little 5year girl are crystal clear in my mind!!
Nice
Born in hillingdon and rasied in Southall.
great 👍🏽
Southall feels like home fr
I came to USA in 2000. I didn’t have to face such problems of racism.but I’ve heard lots of stories from other people who had been in USA in80s or 90s.
Vaheguru, Hare Krishna
Taudi boli tuc bhul de ho taudi maa marjandi..boli maa ah love that
Respect to the first generation. Their trust was validity.
Sikhi made punjabis resilient
I worked with a guy from there born 1930. Nice respectable uk working class area spoilt he said
That's where i got married in 1977
Must have been a wonderful day then.
Ahhh. 😊
put the full speech on line the one in the end
Enough respect to appnay people we're all back bone of UK all our elderly worked hard back then and are still work hard to this day the 2nd 3rd 4th generation grafting educating our kids our history our roots back home making our mark to this day. United we stand big up 🇵🇰🇮🇳🇧🇩 we are all 1 ✌️&♥️
I born in Huddersfield 1968, that's exactly what we said growing up, if it was a person with brown skin, "apna" did not matter religion or country.
Good
We struggle in Canada in the earlier days before what BC has become
They work the hardest job now all most own most of them
Can I use some of the visuals for my Documentary
Can anyone please help me to find the song? Thanks.
Jai hind jai bharat
I miss the old southall when it was mostly strong beautiful purely punjabi Sikh community 70s to late 90s. Since then its gone downhill
@Art, definitely, Southall has lots its uniqueness
Brother please 🙏 tell me which year this movie ?
My dad was Mr Mann
Kim when did your father live in Southall? How did he find it?
Hi Mary Duffy. No offence. Now you know how it felt when the British took over the India. The people felt the same like they were in a foreign country.
When was this filmed?
Late 70s and early 80s.
Every migrant faces initial difficulties. Eventually all of them got rights and amenities. Some of them became MPs of British Parliament.Coming from rural areas of Punjab and living side by side with British people was in itself a great privilege. However, society couldn't assimilate them as part of local culture. Today, if India plays a cricket match against England. Even third or fourth generation migrants pick up Indian flag and raise Indian slogans.There is no harm in diversity of culture. But if Britain needs more hands in war or propaganda.....
Very interesting and touching story. This is very common with any pioneer in a foriegn land stories. I visited Southhall in 1998, back then it was not as it is now from what I see on the internet.
Why
@@channelfive7883 Victoria's legacy, its nice we are all one people, cheek by jowl!
I think, it is much more then in any other country. The progress we have here in UK to wards it's minorities speaks for itself. In France, for example racist national from is the second most popular party today. Among other reasons for this is, because there was no resistance, and not much grouping of minorities to deal with issues. Southall history is simply fascinating for all minorities
@@mohabatkhanmalak1161 White women marrying Pakistani men in Britain to fight racism.
@@channelfive7883 Never happens they never go for us. They like blk dudes. Blks are much more accepted imo here. Our loved racism is worse as asians. No one listened to our issues nor addressed them. Things like no Asian footballers still. This keeping us at arms length exists even now
Yes at 21.15 I can relate to that ,they did that even at the expense of their own families
My teacher is a part of it salvinder D hillion
Oo Chak dy phattay
Majority came from Africa. Uganda to be precise
Brilliant video Unfortunately Southall's left have deviated from our funding forefathers
I had an old aunt and uncle live off the lady margret road southall . They were constantly told by the immigrants that they will take their house -They did . Its a dump
Great people. What happened to the White working class that used to live there?
They sold up and moved
I can understand how white ppl felt in 60's, but they must understand that what their government done as foreign policy towards ppl of other counties. These ppl did not just turn up here . Its is not the common working classes fault they feel hard done by but they must understand the legacy of the Britsh empire which allowed Britain build its immense wealth, the UK government and foreign policy dealt with human flesh for sale. It went to Indian, Americas and, did not go to make friends as equals but to enslave the citizens of these countries as second class citizens and lot of cases just plane slaves. The museums in London are full of war booty and stolen goods, but obviuosly they were gifted. These ppl came and worked unbelievably hard, took racist abuse and physical violence, killed on the streets UK for being the wrong colour and still are, but they stood strong and made life for themselves and their children.
My Best place for sweets ...👍💕
ਇਹ ਸਾਰੀ ਜਾਣਕਾਰੀ ਜੇਕਰ ਪੰਜਾਬੀ ਭਾਸ਼ਾ ਵਿੱਚ ਦਿੱਤੀ ਹੁੰਦੀ ਤਾਂ ਹਰ ੲਪੰਜਾਬੀ ਬੰਦਾ ਸਮਝ ਸਕਦਾ ਕਿ ਤੁਸੀਂ ਕੀ ਜਾਣਕਾਰੀ ਦੇ ਰਹੇ ਹੀ।
ਤੁਸੀ ਵੀ ਸਆੳਥਹੋਲ ਤੋ ?
Southall London Like It Multicutural London
It's funny the guy took sword and gora officer put his hand on it.
Punjabis turn shit to gold. Our people hang in there
Hello I'm a film maker and would love to chat to anyone that grew up in Southall. I am currently working on a script.
We suffer racism and discrimination till this day. It's never gonna change with these people.
It’s all in your mind mate.... get over it..
@@franceleeparis37 bullshit! From the time of this generation to current status quo; enough data has been collated to confirm systemic racism in the UK. From the police to educational institutions. The protest in 2020 illustrates this point. So when someone says they "experienced racism" take it as "lived experience" or colloquialisms because a lot of racism in the UK is covertly done - micro incivilities or it is termed as micro aggressions. So "NO" mate, it's not in your mind.
@@paullahori7133 ...nope... you are still imagining it like all the BLM supporters.. who now have a far better life here in the UK then they would have had in their own country .... you think blacks and Asians are not racists?? Go and live in Africa or india or Middle East and stop talking out of your arsenal....
Which people? I am white British and have experienced racism by young hooligans of Bengali descent. Stop pretending the only racists and supremacists are white.
@@Isochest sorry my friend but the reality is racism started from the white people. It's in your bloodline. You guys are taught you are superior than the coloured race but the reality is your not.
We can thank the government of India for mismanaging our Indian domestic affairs that our own citizens had to leave and struggle in third world countries whilst diplomats sit in Mercedes and Live in Belgraviaz
Oh bloody hell...Get out of my shop?
I live in south all there is nothing like soutall in word
You live in Southhall. Really how long have you been living there??
Did you get married in Southhall?
@@pavitashergill8308 since 30 years
@@pavitashergill8308 yes
@@SurinderKaur-kw4if really nice. God bless you.