Power of Story: Visions of Independence at 2015 Sundance Film Festival
2015 ж. 28 Қаң.
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Kicking off Art of Film Weekend, a program celebrating the craft of filmmaking, join Robert Redford and George Lucas-two iconic filmmakers who epitomize the spirit of independence in American cinema-in conversation with critic Leonard Maltin.
Most people have no idea how much George has contributed to how accessible most technology associated with movie making is. We have much to be grateful for.
I never understood the anger people have towards George Lucas, he's an intelligent man who clearly knows what he's talking about.
I kind of agree. But it has a lot to do with what he refers to at the end - people just looking at the surface of his films.
Well The Phantom Menace indicates at least he doesn't know what he's writing about.
Nineteen1900Hundred In 1973, Lucas produced the treatment for the saga. By the time 1975 had come around he had established that the story involved "Mace Windu, fame Jedi Bendu Ophuchi" and regardless of the success of Star Wars he stuck to his original vision - Episode 1 dealing with the 'massive organs of commerce' taking a corrupt influence in the Republic, the rise of the Emperor, the rise of Luke's father, Obi Wan Kenobi as a Jedi, etc etc etc. The fact that the film was not as entertaining as any in the original story was partly by the nature of it (and that's why he elected to make the second trilogy first), and partly by a laziness and stubbornness in his writing, maybe. But certainly, he knew exactly what he was doing, and didn't waver.
Nineteen1900Hundred In referring to "The Phantom Menace" how much hate can people have towards George Lucas about that movie. So many years have passed and people to this day are doing reviews on how much they hate it. It kinda shows me how much people actually "like" the movie, you don't remember things you don't like at least I don't.
Adam Cornwell I've always completely doubted that. I've read most of the original treatments from the mid 70s and they have elements from the Prequels but they are just ideas for characters. If you analyse the original Star Wars, it's pretty clear it's a standalone story. Vader was not meant to be Luke's father, Leia was not his sister, there was no Emperor. And I think the Prequels were not as entertaining as the originals, simply because they were BAD movies. Simple as that.
George Lucas is such a genius, truly a real artist.
YA THAT JAR JAR BINKS WAS BRILLIANT
So you'll throw Lucas under the bus for ONE misstep, when he did so much GOOD for films? Yeah, fuck you.
Lucas is a grand audio-visual DESIGNER. That's his strength.
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@@spacecatboy2962 Jar Jar Binks was a comedic character who was abused and used by Palpatine. Jar Jar is a beautiful tragic character, and is a great part of the saga.
Several websites, IGN and Deadline namely, have already begun misquoting Lucas at around the 7:00 minute mark. Most people know that Had and Have are two different tenses, but apparently the writers of these sites can't tell the difference and have titled their articles, "George Lucas: I have no interest in science fiction at all." #facepalm
+Omar Cortes IGN is famous for that.
Man, Robert Redford just exudes coolness. And his and George's stories about the studio system are really facinating. Fantastic interview.
and he's got a lot of hair.
What an amazing panel, couldn't have put two bigger but two completely different legends on stage together. This is a real gem to hear their insight
Is the video somehow broken when accessed through the browser? There is no image anymore, only audio. However, I don't have this problem via the app on my smartphone or TV 🤔
Imagine all the talented or gifted people who quit because their teacher or a peer or someone went the other way and told them to quit or humiliated them into giving up
George Lucas is by far one of the most sophisticated and knowledgeable people out there. He knows about cars and art from his young days. He studied anthropology and societies. He studied under Joseph Campbell himself where he learned about myths. He's a Buddhist Methodist. He's critical of Hollywood and he's very progressive politically. All of these facets of his life led him to not just being a filmmaker or storyteller, but a genuine myth maker and visionary. His stories, especially Star Wars, transcends ordinary life with all of their archetypes, allusions, and metaphors, and tries to show us how to be the best version of ourselves we can be. His stories have also pushed technology in such ways that probably would have happened much later if not for him. I don't want to deify and pedestal Lucas, but he certainly is one of the most creative and most prolific person when it comes to pop-culture and myth. (And yes, the prequels were magical and they resonate on so many levels. They are very human stories, dealing with human and societal issues.)
So happy to see him again ! Wish he would be still in charge of Star Wars ! You are missed George !!
George Lucas is very down to earth and tells things how they are I really like that.
The impression every comic does of George Lucas is his impression of a Studio Executive. That's funny.
Fantastic interview with an acing legend Robert Redford and the fabulous George Lucus 👌🏻
when bob said that eating art quote twice
Awesome sauce, my gosh I cant believe it George Lucas and Robert Redford on the same panel being interviewed by Leonard Maltin...so awesome!!!
This interview is amazing and easily one of the best filmmaking interviews I've ever seen! I'm really glad George did NOT talk about Star Wars for once and instead talked about his view on the filmmaking process which he is very passionate about. I forgot how much George Lucas' drive inspired me as a filmmaker! I also loved Robert Redford's rebellious view on filmmaking which turned into Independent filmmaking. I never realized until now how much these two men have changed and influenced cinema for the better. I learned so much that I might just watch it again! By the way, I watched this with my Dad and it's really cool how Robert Redford's movies like "Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid" influenced my Dad as much as I was influenced by George Lucas' movies "THX1138", "American Graffitti", and, of course, that epic space opera...
One thing I've been surprised about, is that George is clearly a fan of vehicles and fast cars, and yet, I've never seen anyone talk to him about cars! I always felt if I could get some time with him, I'd want to talk to him about cars, particularly the Tucker.
I mean, Star Wars did come up, but it wasn’t the bulk of conversation as it usually is with George. And I love Star Wars too, the original film is my favorite film of all time, but I do love the other films he’s made, from the shorts, the two films he directed before Star Wars and the various films he wrote and produced between Star Wars trilogies. George is one of the greatest filmmakers ever.
Lucas and Redford: what an unexpected and interesting combination.
George Lucas KICKS ASS!!!
I'm such a huge fan of both of those outstanding gentlemen I could listen to them talk about films all day. Thanks for sharing Sundance Institute.
Both Lucas and Redford having a passion for their art form; and knowing they could only reach their goals by being independent from the box studios. Brilliant how they both distinctively achieved that.👏
Two absolute legends.
I don't know much about Robert Redford but after that story I respect him. I wanted to hear George Lucas but I loved hearing of Robert Redford's formative experiences. George Lucas at the end has enlightened me with that Art/Technology depiction. And Robert Redford's "pay attention" is brilliant.
Pay attention, pay attention, pay attention to the smallest detail. "The smallest gesture tells you all you need to know about someone"
NOTE: not synchronized with video until about 33:00
This video just came up and I am so happy to hear COOPER & ROBERT'S voice!!! We miss COOPER so much!! and hope you are all doing well...and we so look forward to seeing you soon!! xoxo, Laurie & Meryl
wow. two icons together sharing their wisdom. it was fascinating to watch! thank you very much!
This is great listening to these guys talk about their experiences! Thanks for uploading this!
So humbled to be able to watch this onterview years later after the fact and hear the story of two great legends and how they forged a path for themselfs and by doing so, independent film making and artists alike..
Isn’t it funny how there’s a lot of stuff thats really interesting about a person’s life, and why they had the life they had, such as Bob’s story, but we’ve never heard it before. Maybe he didn’t feel the time was right to share it, or was it because the interviewers weren’t really interested enough. Or interested in the wrong stuff such as asking the same old dumb questions again and again about movies he’s made. The thing is with Bob is that he’s really a deep thinker which means he’s on a never ceasing thinking journey.
This was cool. I can't believe I am just seeing this now.
Thank you for posting this!
Come Back George!! We need you!!!!
It's too late. People will only begin to understand his filmmaking genius after some 20 or 30 years of Disney Star Wars.
@@fundhund62 Some yes... But there are people out there that already respected George Lucas before Disney. I think I've seen you on Rick Worley's videos maybe? And people like Style is Substance, Anomaly Inc, and luckily a lot of fans at least respect him for what he tried to do with the Prequels
@@VibingMeike Yes, of course. But unfortunately, the loudest voices in the room got it all their way..
1:08:37 and that's why everyone loves it! Sci-fi can actually get old. Things like Stargate and Star Trek can be interesting but it's main focus is science. Star Wars is about destiny, magic , family, and god (the force). Because despite all the technology, we still live in a spiritual. “Hokey religions and ancient weapons are no match for a good blaster at your side, kid.” -Han Solo. And we all know how wrong he was.
thats just cuz george isnt smart enough to come up with a rational universe
so true.. star wars was about the non-physical aspects of life like family, loyalty, friends, determination, hope
27:27 But what George Lucas says here only half jokingly is TRUE - film IS its own pure medium. Historically, it's been made to serve the other mediums of plot and theater drama in order to compel paying audiences to sit for the duration of the "show".
Maya Deren's body of work is proof of that ;-)
I love George and Bob :)
Humbling! Thank you xxx
I have always loved listening to stuff all about Robert Redford since he’s so interesting! I have always loved Lucas for his star wars shows! Great interview of them each! Hope each of y’all have the best Christmas 2021!❤️👋🎄🎅🙏💋
George is seriously a very cool dude. He has balls of steel.
Who knew these two have a connection that goes way back.
love you George.
Thank you for posting. That was fantast ic!
I can't think of two directors more diametrically opposed.
Best interviews about film and filmmaking
So amazing, thank you so much for this.
Fascinating listening to genius and artistic mind.
today, I love the prequels 🙂
No, they're still mediocre except Revenge of the Sith.
Sacrilege83 well sentimentality dwarfs at one point mediocre 😅
@@Sacrilege83 No, they are outstanding films. All three of them.
@@jacoballison8237 I can't watch through Phantom Menace in one sitting. It has its pod race and lightsabre battle, that's it. At least it has one scene more worth viewing than Last Jedi.
@@Sacrilege83 Nah, that whole movie is great.
Just for the record Robert Redford is 79 years old in this enterview. Yeah...
Thanks for this interview! KGM
Very relevant conversations about the terrible practices of Hollywood. Glad he got to be his own boss
Man, when you control DISTRIBUTION, you own it all! I guess that's why Spielberg formed DreamWorks with Katzenberg and Goeffen.
Thanks for uploading :)
Everytime I see Robert Redford I really can you inside to the craft of filmmaking and with that I thank him and it makes me more interested even now it's in a spine wannabe if you will
A very insightful interview
words of honesty and insight
Ridiculous! Without video edited in in the first minutes, I assumed it was just audio, then later when it buffered enough I could forward further found it DOES have video....and this marvelous editing from the Sundance Institute. Thinking it was just audio I downloaded accordingly, so I had to download it all over again in my usual 720.
Insightful interview with both. It really does come down to storytelling and entertainment Something that seems to be lost these days. You can either love or hate the Star Wars movies, but one thing is for sure. Those movies were HIS vision and not some studio executive, focus group driven piece of mindless drivel being pushed as a product for consumption. Witness the Disney made Star Wars movies which are glorified remakes of the originals with focus group driven tropes thrown in to appeal to modern political sensibilities. Though it is ironic that his movies and the way that they were promoted and financed gave rise to the modern blockbuster movie. Merchandising is what makes the money.
Many people scoff at the prequels, but they rarely look at the big picture: Lucas had noone to answer for those films, but himself. He financed and made those films outside the studio system, in a way that could have been disastrous. Walt Disney was the same way in regards to the Disney Studios. Much like Lucas getting burned by Hollywood, Walt also got burned by the studio system when a distributor took control of Oswald the Lucky Rabbit, and basically told Walt, "you can walk, or come and work for me at the rates we set for you.' Walt walked, and vowed he wouldn't work for anyone else. And that's largely true regarding the films the studio made for a long time. Much like Lucas making money on one picture, to finance the next, that was what happened. And like Lucas, Walt often found himself throwing everything he had into making them work. In the history of the studio, they often faced bankruptcy or possible monetary failure for years, until the 1960's, when the studio had enough funds to allow some breathing room.
Youre right. Theres no one like George Lucas in the film industry and he gave birth to modern film. I have nothing but respect for the guy
I absolutely agree with you guys! Its kinda sad that Star Wars which stood for independence is now owned by another Studio but I just hope they take the franchise into the right direction and just make great movies.
this is a treat
Why is the video covered up? I can mouse over the video scrubber to see that there is footage, but all I see is a Sundance logo. Kinda makes it feel like the video was censored or something :/
This man is a creative artist. People like him want to experiment. That is how innovation occurs. That can be a hit or miss and be highly subjective. Don't get the hate he recieved for the SW prequels. Look at what the corporate Disney sequels have given audiences.
So, that clears it up a lot. George was never really a science fiction and comic book fan. Cool. Robert Redford. +1
13:24 Parents always give you good advice until the day they're proven wrong.
Minuto 11, es formidable lo que dice Redfort, esa historia es la que vivió Daniel Pennac, escritor francés que cuenta en Maux de cancre , el desinterés en la escuela y el rescate de un alumno gracias a la vocación de un profesor. No puedo escribir esto en inglés, pero traduzco al francés para quien quiera leerme y compartir.
Quite interesting!
It's so very nice of you to actually film and download the whole thing that I'm even ashamed to say this... but this video is broken. Every once in a while it "cracks" like on 9:37 and sometimes it's on important moment.
Interesting , honest less lit up , but grounded. Teachers so important as mentors , not to de- mentor talent .🇺🇸🇩🇰🌠🙏📫 Love the interchange, and enovative thinking...🐥🐣Lock Down, " Open the Door!!🗽
Great Listen this is. I use to do the drawings the same way as Robert Did. Cowboys, Indian's, planes :) .Refreshing to hear
Only if we knew what would arrive in 5 years from this interview; namely, Coronavirus, COVOD-19. We would have "mildly" stockpiled supplies, bought stock in hand sanatizer, P&G, etc.
Skip to 29 minutes in. Thank youtube we can hover over the timeline to find the image of the start.
I find the topic of film and art not having much to any importance in the social world fascinating, and very relatable.
What?? Film and art are very social
Film Magician Oh, let me explain. I mean MAKING film and art having much importance in the social world. Especially growing up. Of course film and art as a whole has huge importance. Like watching movies and looking at drawing, but making them for some reason as a slightly different impact. Like, for example, let's say you have a junior high student who likes to draw and make short films. Sure his fellow classmates will find it intriguing that he does that but they will also find it a bit strange. I should of mentioned this in my previous comment.
epicbenstudios What you mean about making film is exactly that, the making of a film, however arduous, comes across to us, the viewer, seamlessly. We are imbued and absorbed in watching most film, we live the action but not what it took to make that action.
JamesG Davis Exactly, thank you.
16:40 Same thing I do when I people asked me what I want to do. I don’t say create video games, that’s for sure.
Well, I guess it's time to get to work!
My people.
This video would be SOO much better without the constant GLITCHING!!!
Waiting on that movie based on George Lucas's life.
nice!
So good - too bad about the feedback about 45 minutes into the interview with George. Maybe you could fix, and put some kind of filter on it?
In pretty much every interview Lucas does, he always talks about how he wants to do these little independent movies. And he has the power, money and the name to do that everyday of the week. He can work with anybody. And yet he never did even a short film. Why is that?
Clearly you haven't looked at Letterboxd or IMDB; Lucas has made at least 10 short films.
1:09:33 don't trust Kathleen Kennedy...
Why are there so many glitches? It alters the flow.
George Lucas is an amazing, inspiring person, regardless of how hard Disney tries to kill his legacy.
Their uninspired, off-the-shelf movies will only make his legacy shine brighter (in the long run).
Robert Redford’s too cool and handsome to be an art student
Star Wars is a Space Fantasy. NOT a Sci-fi story.
Lucas indeed says that in this interview. Elements that have the feel of 'Sci Fi' appear more in parts 1-3 than they o in parts 4-6, such as the midicholorians. This element of The Force is something he even referred to in "The Making of Star Wars" Fox documentary for TV in 1977. It's very hard to categorize but of course if he says it's not really sci fi, you say it's not sci fi, and I say it's not really sci fi, then it's probably not really sci fi
It's a sci-fi fantasy.
P Ferreira I agree. I've heard it referred to as a space opera. Not sure if it fits but that seems kinda cool to me.
It’s a space opera. Combines both genres and also has the melodrama that is in Star Wars.
Space Opera!
hope my novel BLUE gets made into a film with GL directing it. George. is the best.
I think it was a problem with KZhead.
Good parenting advice
HEY SUNDANCE INSTITUTE...thank you very much for this interview...BUT CONTENT THIS GOOD DESERVES A CLEAN EDIT, FREE OF THE VISUAL STUTTERS AND AUDIO FEEDBACK CAUSING THE SOFT RINGING DURING LOUD SPEAKING. Will you please gather the camera footage and original audio, edit it together (approximately reproduce this cut if that's easier), and re-upload it? You can also create and upload shorter cuts to help promote the new release of the full interview. Heck, I'm willing to do it myself for free if you hand over the assets...and I too will use Adobe Premiere Pro, haha.
34:37 deliberately planted strategic glitch?
Listening to this I can tell George Lucas really didnt like or get along with corporate types
Duh !
Look how uneasy he is! Redford is relaxed, Maltin is relaxed. Perhaps he’s nervous they have him there to spill the beans on him?
wth is going on with this video? I'm just getting an animated logo
George Lucas a cool down to earth unhollywood guy.
35:00
Re: American Graffiti ---- I can see where someone might object to the title simply because there is No graffiti in the movie at all. There is no one spray painting graffiti on any walls in the California small town. Instead, the movie has lots of cars driving up and down the main drag of the town. So really, a more suitable title might have been something like "American Cruisin""
54:30 very fascinating, shows that to get money for a movie they used starlets (actresses) to have dinner with investors ;) Right, just dinner :)
Reading the comments below, you would never think from most of them that Robert Redford is sitting there too. The guy who brought several major films to the screen at that time, including "the Candidate", "All the President's Men" and "Three days of the Condor" that mark some of the greatest films ever made! I love star wars too but god damn, anyone ever mature past it!? No wonder the world is so fucked up, no one cares what's going on unless its in some fantasy world.
Star Wars was inspired by history and the current events occurring during the creation of the movies. For example Nixon and the Vietnam War were part of the inspiration for A New Hope.
It's because everyone is obsessed with slandering Lucas. Truly sad.
Film is one of my interests. I enjoy some of Kubrick and Speilburg's movies, and I love exploring old films like Metropolis, Twelve Angry Men, etc. I even used to edit and sometimes do film analysis, but often I don't watch many movies, rather I look into all art forms. (I'm not completely unknowledgeable on film and whatnot, but I do explore it) I like looking into Lucas and Star Wars specifically though because of another interest of mine, myth and it's implementation. Myth and it's psychological roots are very interesting to me, and I think Star Wars is a fantastic example of it. I will also say that from this conference I have learned a lot about Redford and what he does.
Redford was the most interesting of the bunch.
1:01:09
LOL they took his concept and finally made it better, all his fears came true, what is they make it better and people like it?
Then Disney killed his universe
Lucas killed his universe when he shat the bed on the prequels and then sold his IP to disney
@Cypher I wish I was on whatever you were on because it sounds like a WILD trip
@Cypher can you seriously not grade the Old Republic in a vacuum? There is a difference between the lore and the artistic manifestations of the lore. The prequels are terrible movies by any objective measure. George himself has admitted he hates to write and direct- and guess who wrote and directed the prequels. By his own admission Episode 1 could have been saved if George hadn't doubled down on his stupid ideas. The prequels turned his own fan base against Lucas, which is why he ultimately got sick of the franchise and sold it to Disney. What are your opinions on the terrible Sequel movies? I'm sure you love them as just as much as Anakin's dialogue in Episode 2.
@@afoose They're still leagues better than any of the Disneyfied sequels.
Lucas knew he will never make another movie. So he took out his pension and let them kill his franchise. I completely agree with his decision. Whatever Disney did after that is entirely on them. It doesn't devalue Lucas's work in any way. In fact it just shows that he had a better vision for it even more. And you know what? I'm a millennial and I love the prequels. They are a completely different kind of movie than originals and I love them both. Disney's shit though? After I watched the 7.th in the cinema I decided I won't give any more money to Disney. Not even a penny. I haven't watched the rest and I won't.
31:00 glimpse of a compulsion to correct things
by Lucas as Redford was telling the story? It just seemed like Lucas was paying attention to a story about himself to me :/
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