Guthrie Govan gives a killer nugget of advice to musicians.
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Q&A session following a phenomenal gig with Tomasz Bura group, Woking, UK - 27th Jan 2024.
Q&A session following a phenomenal gig with Tomasz Bura group, Woking, UK - 27th Jan 2024.
He's so articulate and thoughtful with his responses, it's not just the same regurgitated garbage. Everything he says is sincere and that's exactly how he plays. Genius.
If you’ve read his guitar books, they are the same - very articulate and clear, even without seeing what he’s talking about in the books, you could imagine it in your mind what he meant by certain techniques, just a brilliant teacher and writer!
Gandalf, through and through.
I agree with the concepts that he passed down. What he didn’t mention (because it would be a downer), is that how good you get doesn’t translate to a successful career. I’m a bassist of nearly 25 years with touring experience since I was 21. I’m 38 now. Clearly I have way more experience now and I’m likely a more seasoned player. But I find a lot of doors are closed because of my experience. I guess a lot of people are intimidated or something. Which I think is silly because I am nobody aswell. Esteem isn’t as relevant in reality but’s as big as the sun in our imaginations. Guthrie is my favorite guitarist over all. For my taste, Brian May and Nuno Bettencourt are other top guys. When we have to consider all the styles and narrow it down to our favorite flavor, I guess you can see the area of music that I choose as my favorite. But that fact doesn’t represent how much I enjoy Willie Dixon, Stanley Clark or even Les Claypool. When they call Jackson 5, I play in that spirit, or Crazy by Patsy cline.. Guthrie could be the most prolithic player of any genre, Victor Wooten in the same way. But they don’t.. Because they want to be the best themselves that they can be; more than have the most esteem. Esteem from others or from yourself is like coal powering the engine. You could perform to your capacity without esteem, but you might not have the motivation to do it. For new players: Music is a language. Genre’s are like dialects, styles like accents. Listen and then speak back “musicially”. Listening is the biggest part. Fine tuning your ear to what you are playing and to what someone else law is playing is an essential skill. No one cares about you are saying by yourself, so don’t focus on that. The people who are impressed by you, can’t do what you have learned. But those who can also do that, are less moved. So.. how do you affect them? Taste and creativity, writing, recalling and reacting beautifully.. exactly why I love Guthrie’s playing. I wish him 100x his success, he deserves it. He deserves much more than he gets. So that will most likely happen to you as well. Just be prepared. No esteem and no reaction are common today. Again, I started my bus touring days in 2006. In my experience, no one cares. Fortunately, I’m not proud. I play music for the same reason I started.. because I love hearing and making music. Supposition Objective, do what you will and enjoy it for what it is, a gift to be experienced in the present moment. We are given that opportunity, many aren’t. 🤘🎶✌️
@djbrando202 well written my friend 👏 I agree with everything you wrote. The music world isn't fair, that's for sure. Talent is thrown to the way side in favour of mediocrity and appearance I feel. There are female guitar players who don't have an ounce of Guthries talent but are raking in the big bucks. For most of us we just want to make a living from doing the thing we not only love but also put countless hours into. I don't seek fame, I just wish I could make music a sustainable career, but it doesn't seem like a possibility these days, unless you're extremely lucky. I say luck because I don't seem to see the people who really deserve it, but rather those who for whatever reason have hit it off big, most often unexplainably so.
and yet he can't write a hit song to save his life. he's a student of the guitar, and a great one. but he's just an average artist.
Nice. This is like a short version of the four stages of knowledge, which goes something like 1 You don't know what you don't know 2 You know what you don't know 3 You know it, but you have to think about it 4 You know it so well, you no longer have to think about it.
Broadwell's Four stages of competence, endlessly applicable to most skills in life.
@@samoyedsil Thank you. Nice to have a name/title to know it by*. 👍 * Which I'll probably forget... which puts me at, stage 2?
@@JeffJefferyUKyeah I remember hearing it summarised as… 1. Unconscious Incompetence 2. Conscious Incompetence 3. Conscious Competence 4. Unconscious Competence. Love Guthrie’s explanation here!
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I totally agree with this statement, but it would be nicer and surely more fair to mention the guy that really formulated it, Antony Wellington. kzhead.info/sun/iKuRm7ilpJ1_eZs/bejne.html Cheers.
He is a genuine, talented, caring, musician and person. His teaching and advice is the best I have ever encountered anywhere. A truely amazing human.
Besides his supernatural/genius guitar abilities, I am very impressed with how humble and open he is. He's truly a gentleman and a scholar.
how on earth do you two know him as a person without knowing him in real life? how does that work exactly? because you claim it?
@@RobertMJohnson I don't think either of them did claim that, we can however deduce from your reaction to what is a purely made up issue, that you seem to have some form of psychological problem.
If Mr.Govan wrote a book about his life and his philosophy, I'd buy it.
And if he read it as an audiobook, I’d listen to it.
"how to be a mediocre artist" by gg
@@RobertMJohnson who hurt you my friend? it is your FOURTH unnecessary reply of hateful words just in this video. i hope you can work it out of whatever is hurting you. wish you the best
@@flipviperyou’re projecting like a child and desperately trying to be clever. Analysis is for adults, unlike you. My comments are accurate and true. GG is nothing more than an uncreative virtuosos. He’s barely an artist. He’s a high IQ emulator with great dexterity and technical knowledge The fact that you cannot accept truth shines through with your own inability to think critically and clearly forcing you to reach for unsubstantiated claims about others who happen to disagree with your weak, fanboy position. Hall monitor.
you mean: if he'd wrote any book about anything at all :D
I genuinely admire Mr. Govan. I have never met him, but his wisdom, skill and attitude walk many steps before his ego as far as I can make out.
I had the honor and privilege of sitting with him in a pub, at Steve Vai’s first Vai Academy and we talked about many things. But he took the time to tell me about Konnakol. We talked about it for quite some time and he had that some deliberate intensity wrapped in genius, understanding and empathy. He is truly a genius with a huge heart.
No wonder his phrasing is so good. Loved this answer. Every time Guthrie speaks, I learn something.
Guthrie Govan is slowly becoming...Gandalf! Wise words! A master... My fully respect!
guthrie govan is unquestionably a genius, on the guitar of course, but also as a teacher..quite a remarkable man.
Guthrie Govan is not just a master on his instrument, he is also one of us mere mortals. For some reason, he never seems to have lost the connection to his early days when he himself struggled with mastering his instrument. This ability, to stay grounded in the very roots we mere mortals reside, makes him such a trustworthy and delightful source to listen to. I luv' yah, man.
English major!
dude almost shed a year or two probably brought back some memories of how hard he worked at this stuff to be where he is now. Totally deserved.
He looked the same age to me at the start of the clip and the end
@@michael1 he meant 'tear'
@@raoyenits funnier to think of the typo imagining guthrie's hair reverting to brown
I'm certain he knows a lick that reverse his age
Guthrie Govan gives some of the best guitar and music advice and wisdom. While most guys focus on technical playing skills, he puts things into context with how it applies to real life playing situations. He gives that extra perspective on what it really means to play what you're learning in your journey. That can only ever come from life experiences in music both good and bad. I've always loved how he puts a lot of thought into his answers like he doesn't want to waste a word or a sentence. Great guitarist and teacher.
He keeps on looking more and more like an old wise wizard as the years go by
Guthrie's wisdom is like a free brick of musical gold. The man has chops like very few on earth and has the teaching abilities of someone who has taught well for a millennium. The rarest of musicians. AND, he's a lovely bloke!
Guthrie seems like a very educated and genuine person ... on top of that he's a hellova player. Sensei ❤
It was a great night! Nice one for posting this
when you're *that* good you can give away all your secrets knowing no-one will still ever be able to catch up to you. greatest guitarist of all time.
That was amazing. ❤️ 🙏🏻
Thanks for sharing!
Invaluable advice, always an inspiration to watch you on the guitar!
Such sound advice.. I’m so thankful for Guthrie
Brilliant as always.
It's always so heartwarming and insightful to hear Guthrie!
Thanks for sharing Guthrie.
He answers how he plays guitar, thoughtfully and creatively
When I used to teach university classes large enough to require use of computer-scored multiple-choice exams, my students would often complain to me that they would leave my exams having no idea how they did. My reply to them was "Good, that's what I was aiming for". I wanted what they learned in my courses to be used almost like an unconscious reflex, and not merely an easily forgettable list/inventory of factoids. I wanted them to *feel* that something was correct, without necessarily knowing why, or treating it as something they remembered from their notes. I drew an analogy with steering one's car out of a skid on an icy road. You don't want to go through a checklist in your head of what to do in such a situation. You want it to be so automatic it feels like the knowledge is in your hands. As Guthrie notes, using it quicker than one can *decide* to use it. It's rare that being able to walk upright, without keeling over, requires our conscious awareness and deciding about what to do next in order not to fall over. Yet it's something we learned to do, and all the moment-to-moment decisions that need to be made in order to remain upright, rely on long-term memory. Fluid musicality should be like that, regardless of the instrument. Seeing Guthrie play live, what one is impressed by is not his speed of playing, but rather the fluidity of the ideas he expresses on the fingerboard. They come quickly and seamlessly *AND* playfully. Funny how people who don't HAVE to think when playing have actually thought a great deal *about* their playing and what could improve it. Matteo Mancuso is very much the same. I'm floored by his playing, but I'm more floored by how articulate an understanding he has OF his playing.
I just love Guthrie.. he is a great musician and a great thinker...and a nice person i asume....
Yes Sensei 🙌🏻
Wisdom thru words attatched to his SOUL❤Spot on.
I doesn’t get any better than this! Amazing example, truly. Advice for all musicians to live by. Excellent delivery of the story as well!
This guy is Next Level. Just a phenomenal guitar player. Such an Inspiration to me. oNe LovE from NYC
I still love Guthrie. Such a warm heart...
So humble yet so wise. Maestro!
Excellent interpretation of the application of acquired wisdom.
This is so damn good to be on youtube
Amazing I chatted to him a few times, he was the year above me at school in Chelmsford. He did his own thing, I played in the school orchestra ... he was a renegade that played a electric guitar crazy fast ... He was very knowledgeable about music, I remember talking about 20th century composers with him, nice chilled out guy - he eventually went off to Oxford
fantastic! 👏🏻
Amazing! Great Words of Wisdom from The Wizard himself. Needed that!
That's VERY true. Whether in Guitar Playing or Martial Art If you try to run before you can walk , you'll TRIP....Another thing to remember is motor skill improvement cannot come overnight. Whether you are moving your fingers (in Musicianship) or your arms & legs (in martial Art) so young students mustn't give up easily but STAY focused....And also forgetting what you have learned is something BRUCE LEE taught students in JKD (Jeet Kune Do) .....You start with raw clay as a substance which is knowledge you have acquired through training until it is second nature & then you subtract from it to get to the essence of the Art. Guthrie makes the same point HERE with active vocabulary....Your instincts will know and you will apply it at the right time in the right context...Both musicianship or martial art....Thanks so much for this Guthrie. 👍🙏
Thank you for posting this, sir. Once again, without using too much verbiage, Guthrie Govan made TONS (or perhaps, TONNES??) of sense!
I feel so greatfull for living at the same time as Guthrie. ❤ I have learnt a lit from him, not only for my passion (the music) also for my work, I’m a teacher and in my opinion the way he arguments and elaborate the responses and explanations are incredible. Thank you for everything Guthrie, i hope to say this to you one day 🥹
Brilliant! ❤
Amazing advice!
Guthrie - I have the first transcriptions you made. And they are signed by Jennifer Batten. You have the presence to be instantly recognised in one’s note. I like your vision that it’s ok to be unique. This is a wonderful clip. Thanks guys and gals.
so glad i discovered Guthrie Govan
Guthrie is an international treasure. period.
Right... words of wisdom \m/.
Wonderful advice!
It's the 10000 hours and more. Guthrie Govan just explains it better. What a great musician and person he is!
This is your brain on music, right?
No, if you think that then you missed the point of what he was saying. You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink
In Germany there is a saying that "no master so far fell from the Sky". I guess that in the direction is what Guthrie wants to tell us.
Some of the best advice you could give. No limitations, just perseverance. Walk the path.
So true. I used to study for exams, certifications etc like this. At a point you have to just trust that you've absorbed enough, and invariably when the questions are presented, stuff comes rushing back out.
Well said. 🤷♂️👍. Learn what you can and apply when needed... if you want to learn... and if you want to use. 👍
Guithrie’s voice is sooood good! The tonal quality Damnn!
I can’t ever put into words how beautifully he described being a player and as a player I’ve struggled with hearing something in my head and then try to make it happen, and most times I fail. But that bottom line is so crucial if you are a weathered player. “Look, this will ONLY be useful to you, the day that you can do it, quicker than you decide to do it.” You have to have a lot passive vocabulary until it becomes ACTIVE vocabulary. It’s really inspiring stuff to any musician I think…
Very good info. Thanks
Yes! I live for the moments that I hear my hand doing what I need to learn and doing that without a laborious process of wrote. Music is reaction to sound in a language learned by listening.
So true especially in regard to true improvisation; where you’re both playing and composing music at the same exact instant in time; a beautiful and true art; especially compared to just playing notes on a page or from memory.
100% spot on
Ha! I was there! Great evening:)
I think I like listening to GG talk just as much as play. The knowledge, the humble nature and entertaining delivery... good stuff. My favorite line of his was during a rig rundown about a pedal that was taken from him - he said "it was stolen by Romans" because it disappeared in Italy. Made me lol. Love that guy.
Brillant, wise words from a wise man with a great sense of humor, plus, as a French MF, I really appreciate his so British accent… Such a good player, source of inspiration… Thank you Mr Govan.
Great musician, great teacher, great person.
Guthrie is THE MAN! Listen to his solos on Drive Home and Ancestral, and Regret #9.
Truly wise counsel ...every word.
Guru-thrie Govan. All class. ✌️🤟🤘
Great wisdom.
Well said. My best playing has always been with my eyes closed, or not looking at the fretboard; you gotta do a bunch of woodshedding, until it’s second nature.
He’s a true philosopher of music. A true maestro
There should be a serious documentary/ autobiography - he’s the real deal and he’s so accessible and willing to share. 🙏🏼🖖🏼
I always imagined it as the connection from your mind to your hands, the more you practice the shorter that distance becomes until it has zero latency.
As a musician and mma fighter, it’s so true. Masters are people who have done the basics over, and over and done them millions of times. Most spectacular actions are built on the foundation of mastery of basics.
Wise words from Guthrie 🙏👌
You don't get to a level like his without being extremely intelligent and thoughtful, but also the lack of ego removes a big barrier to creative greatness.
I would like this guy to live forever.
This is a bit of wisdom I wish I would have had starting out playing as a teenager for sure. Still applies today though.
One of the greatest players ever!
That was beautiful
If this man decides to enter in the market of audio books I will buy all of them, what a pleasant voice.
Guthrie is 1,000% correct here. I've been playing the guitar for about two and a half years, pretty much picking it up due to losing everything during the lockdown in 2020. Long story short, I used to have a similar explanation for how I learned to play the guitar whenever I talked to people. I would ask them if they practiced boxing, martial arts, or any form of self-defense, and then I would ask them, "What's the purpose of your practicing?" They would tell me it's so it becomes instinctual and they don't need to think about it to do it. I would respond, "Exactly." That said, the way I learned to do certain riffs and scales was by practicing them over and over for about an hour and every time I flubbed on a note, I would just keep repeating the same pattern until I got it right. I would sleep on it, wake up, do it again, and realize it was easier than before. Point being, it was about integrating this pattern into the instinctual parts of my brain. That's when something incredible happened. While I do still pick up my guitar regularly, I don't play as much as I used to because I've been more focused on writing a book for nearly the past year. However, when I do play, I realize that I don't feel any unease or intimidation about which notes, chords, or patterns I play anymore. Just as he said, you have to learn it to forget about it, and that's exactly what has happened. Seriously, to anybody who watched this video and listened to Guthrie's words or read my comment: Never give up.
Exactly.
The Gospel of Guitar Jesus! God bless Guthrie! What a fantastic musician!😅
One of the most incredible human beings in the world and, possibly, the greatest electric guitar player of all time.
who can't write a hit song or melody to save his life.
@@RobertMJohnson Guthrie obviously isn't interested in writing pop music, he chooses to play what he likes... and that's not "hit songs". He's a players player.. and he's gotten a good amount of recognition doing what he's so good at. Maybe you don't hear melodies in his instrumental playing with The Aristocrats... but some of us do.
@@RobertMJohnson A musician’s back catalogue doesn’t define how great a player they are. If Guthrie has been born 10 years earlier, he’d have been in Zappa’s band instead of Vai.
@@RobertMJohnson Sir, you are hard of hearing to say the least...
At jazz school my one on one teacher told me to 'learn as much theory as you can stand' then completely forget about it.
the legend
The best guitarist I know personally here in Tucson, Arizona (his name Mike Sydlowski) ... he told me the exact same thing 10 years ago.
Very interesting. Got back to judo recently and I've been thinking, and also talking with my instructor who plays piano, how similar learning martial art and playing an instrument is. You start from almost not touching the instrument but you still need *something* that resembles what your mental image about that is so it'll keep you interested and motivated. When you get into something new, you never get into it thinking you're gonna learn basic ability and preparedness for it for a while before you can think about actually learning the thing - getting your body used to it - and then spend years learning the basics. You won't be expecting that the real enjoyment is in the progress of getting better, connecting pieces, starting to develop your own system. How a lot of it is that almost mindless repetition, except you should keep your mind in it and be what they call mindful to observe, analyse, adjust and absorb. To make your path quicker eseentially without compromising its quality. And guitar playing also has that component where your fingers hurt in the beginning and if you get really serious about it, probably start to hurt again later. At some point you forget stuff like flashy stuff and ranks and just enjoy the art of it, your ability to express yourself with it without stopping to think about it.
Yessss
superb advice
He's a gem !
My two cents, I’ve experienced what I believe to be a 4 to 6 month delay, between the time I spend working on a unique new musical concept, and the time I see it and experience it manifesting on a gig or a improvisation without thinking about it I feel like it’s about 4 to 6 months, on average for me. I’ve been also noticing lately, that if I take more time to write down the concept on manuscript paper, that may be that gap shortens a bit Always amazed at how the mind and body work!
I’m a guitar tutor and deal with these kinda students all the time. I will 100% be saying this to the next beginner who asks me to learn the solo to ‘Hotel California’
Met Guthrie once when our bands were upstairs/downstairs, i forget which venue. Just a lovely bloke. Charlie Parker was right, so was Guthrie.
Great video! Thank you! Everyone else is "kiss ass central!" Thank you for keeping it real!
He has truly become Gandalf the White, not just in wisdom and guitar playing ability, but also in appearance as well.
As a classical realist artist, I concur with Mr. Govan.
This was in Trinity Methodist Church in Woking - I was there!!!!
legendary
Agreed every single Word.
Absolutely true!
Amen
"I'll know my song well before I start singin'" is one of my favorite Bob Dylan lines.