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What is the Choir? The Orphanage? What is the Purpose of The Celestial Emissaries and why was Ebrietas 'left behind'? These are all questions we will attempt to answer in this Bloodborne Lore Video.
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Intro: 0:00
Byrgenwerth: 1:59
Hellofresh: 4:01
The Eldritch Truth: 5:24
Blood Ministration: 18:43
The Orphanage: 25:04
The Cosmos: 35:51
Celestial Emissaries: 52:19
The School of Mensis: 1:07:17
This is an extremely expansive video that not only discusses The Choir but also covers the following subjects: Ebrietas, The Research Hall, The Healing Church, Laurence, Master Willem, The Great Ones, Isz, Pthumeru, Yharnam, Celestial Emissaries, Failed Experiments, The Old Blood, The Moon Presence, The Hunter's Nightmare, The School of Mensis, Yarhar'gul, Micolash, Mergo, Hunter's Dream, Eldritch Truth, Blood Ministration, Amygdala and much more!
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Blood Echoes - Bloodborne Anthology: www.tuneandfairweather.com/pr...
Lokey Article on the Choir: lokeysouls.com/2021/12/24/the...
Lokey Article on Byrgenwerth: lokeysouls.com/2022/03/17/byr...
Lokey Article on The Healing Church: lokeysouls.com/2023/05/15/hea...
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@@TroyColey My pleasure my friend! Hope you enjoy, and more to come. Support means the world to me
Good job becoming a mensis scholar😁
@@kawailook Hahah Thank you so much!
I AM BINGE WATCHING YOUR ELDEN RING CONTENT AND THEN YOU MAKE BLOODBORNE, LETS GO
This is a testament to the greatness of Bloodborne’s lore. Nine years in and I’m still learning.
100% still so much to uncover
another testament is how much content was actually in this game. it took many years for the tomb prospectors to finally map out all of the chalice dungeons? like 7, I think?
@@cerberyn and they're still finding new shit, the subreddit is still updating lol. It's insane to me
@@amidalaprin4846 and i love every moment of it
Holy shit it's been nine years already? Whoa dude
WE ARE BORN OF THE BLOODCLOT, MADE ALBINAURICS BY THE BLOODCLOT
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they do have the pail blood
Our legs, are yet to function
The Bloodborne lore teller we've all been waiting for
I hope you enjoy it
For sure, he is so talented
Lore master, if you will
adore more bloodborne lore
More to come for sure
Should have said "adore" instead of "appreciate". Then all but one word would have rhymed
yes please !
Oh yes!
Never get tired of Bloodbourne lore. Even after 9 years
God i am so stoked you are doing bloodborne. Other content creators dropped the ball hard on going as in depth into the source as you do. So pumped.
Thanks my friend, i am really excited to be back in Yharnam. More to come for sure
Yeah Bloodborne was a PS exclusive. Also back when "Prepare To Cry" was a little channel that could and Dark Souls was all we knew. The audience generation on an almost 10 yr old probably ain't high, but I am sure the lore channels were not in their golden age yet.
@@SmoughTown I really hope you go in depth with Bloodborne. So much to learn about not only the game, but also real-world historical medical practices and important figures of old. The game is so rich in inspiration from real-life events, and finding them is another treat Bloodborne teases the players
Charred Thermos makes some brillant Bloodborne content, too. He doesn't post often and I somehow think he is done with his Bloodborne series (around 14 videos) but he has announced a special about the messengers.
@@arcanaobscura3519 Yeh I defo will be checking out this week!
The phantasms in the brain makes a lot of sense. They filled the experiments' brains with water. A perfect home for a baby old one.
"We are born of the blood, made men by the blood, undone by the blood. Our eyes have yet to open... Fear the Old Blood." I absolutely adore Bloodborne great to see you diving into it the game it really is one of fromsolfs best
Honestly, revisiting it has been an absolute blast.
@@SmoughTown It might be my favorite Fromsoft game I love all the Eldritch horror and the gothic victorian design is just gorgeous
God I hope more eldritch arpgs get made man
i like that one, put ''butt,'' in place of 'blood', comedy gold.
"We are born of the Crab, made men by the Crab, undone by the Crab. Our Claws have yet to open... Fear the Old Crab." old man limit
Faux-sefka was definitely giving birth to a great one instead of ascending to one herself. Her pose was a common birthing position and she’s talking about feeling nauseous and terrible. It’s also when the red moon is out, so her womb has also been ‘blessed by child’
Faux-sefka...love it
Not necessarely, she acts very different from Arianna: rather than feeling nauseated from something in her womb, she feels creatures crawling in her head - a symptom Arianna doesn't share. I think the idea was she wanted so much to be a special chosen one, that she experiment things on herself until a contact of some sort happened. She *wants* to be pregnant, blessed with God's child [and so some of her behaviour like the birthing position may be delusional], but in the end she is never able to gave birth specifically because all she managed to do was rot her brain with cosmic mollusks.
@@baltoy7460 Ok here come the details on why I think she’s giving birth, its long. I don’t think her birthing ritual was ever going to work out because she forced it through her experiments. The third umbilical cord she drops is because it was a failed pregnancy of an infant great one. Not that it was her own cord as she was ascending to become one herself. Rom was actually able to ascend for real, and she does not drop a cord when killed. Also, we have to munch on cords we find lying around to become infant great ones ourselves, we don’t grow one like fauxsefka. We get the cords from 1: Ariana 2: mergo 3: workshop 4: fausefka. Arianas kid is the child of a great one. Mergo is an infant great one. The one in the workshop is most likely from the orphan, since the workshop belongs to Gehrman and he was involved in killing kos. Those three are from literal infants and not from someone ascending. At least the first two if you disagree with the workshop cord belonging to the orphan. Mergos cord description says the cord allowed Mensis to have audience with Mergo. The workshop cord says it precipitated contact with the moon presence, imo implying the cord allowed contact between the moon presence and gehrman. Fauxsefkas cord says that Willem wanted a cord because he thought it would grant him eyes and let him ascend. I think that’s what Fauxsefka was trying to do. By birthing an infant great one she would have a cord and thus be able to ascend, or at least gain audience with a great one. Rom did manage to ascend, but besides for being ‘granted eyes’, its not super clear how that happened or if it involved cords. She was a Byrgenwerth scholar, so that’s another possibility for where the orphans cord went (I still think its in the workshop though.) As for Arianna and fauxsefka having different symptoms, we do find Arianna pre and post birth hunched over clutching her head. Could be nausea and brain wiggles. Could be weeping in despair. Hard to say, since she politely says ‘sorry I don’t feel good’! I think the writhing in Fauxsefkas head makes sense either way, her experiments granted her insight. But the MOST important reason that fauxsefka is definitely giving birth there is because of the themes. Mensis, pregnancy, birth, motherhood, treatment of women, medical abuse, it really just makes sense for fauxsefka to be pregnant there.
Need more eldritch lore in our lives let’s be honest
Agreed
An agony of effort by Charred Thermos blow my mind with his insights on Bloodborne lore. Strongly recommend watching it all
Has the lore changed much since Redgraves book?
Coming back from Elden Ring to Bloodborne is such a treat. And I though nobody makes Bloodborne lore anymore. Thanks Smough Town! 👍❤️
My pleasure John, appreciate you checking out the video
I recommend charredthermos.
I was just about ti say charredthermos
charred thermos is the goat
@@revalone3944charred thermos is overrated. I care about in world lore, not real life influences
Perhaps it is simpler than the explanation given, but I had always thought that Ebrietas was the Orphan of the Orphanage, an Orphan of the Cosmos, and that it acquired that name upon her arrival.
I think there is also the element of the many children who were taken in as experiments for the great ones which yearn for surrogate children.
The Choir was the one that made contact with Ebrietas, and according to the Orphanage key, the Choir was the Orphanage's creaton. Wich means that the place predates her arrival.
@@dantoki6371 good point. I still wonder if the orphans in question were humans, at least as we would recognize them. It seems a very _Bloodborne_ move to make players think "oh, how sweet, an orphanage" and then "SURPRISE! It's for monsters!" haha
@@styge7512 Yeah, wouldn't put past the Church or Choir to commit some questionable child experimemts. Probably the kids from the Orphanage just became Choir members later on, but who knows, they might have made use the less "enlightened" kids in some other way.
38:11 - 40:20 The stacked realities and cosmos explaination BLEW my mind. Never noticed you could see bits of the next nightmare/dream.
That interpretation of the chalice dungeons as fixed pocket dimensions that preserve moments in time really makes sense when you consider the loran chalice dungeon
Also side comment to keep ideas from building up in a paragraph, the chimney smoke idea blew my mind, if you pay attention to the Cleric Beast bridge it appears to go nowhere but then you see it before at the Orphanage and I never knew why until now. As for the fall of the Choir I personally still think the Red Moon pushed them over the edge more so, I always felt as if there was some human element up there almost watching us to a degree that just disappears as the Red Moon appears, you can actually see the Orphanage in Central Yharnam (you really can see alot, Old Yharnam from the bridge, Byrgenwerth from the wind mill, The Mensis castle in the frontier, and from the Mensis castle you can see multiple Nightmare Frontiers below.) Regardless one thing I question is the Celestial children, its possible they were being birthed there but the note in the Lecture Hall says “When the red moon hangs low a womb will be blessed with a child.” This implies a celestial birth is a pretty significant detail, now we now for a fact the red moon is a condition that can only afflict certain areas, as Old Yharnam still exists in Nighttime during it with a normal moon, so maybe its possible that they have their own ways of conceiving children without the ritual, maybe “Making Contact,” but even still wouldn’t Rom hold them back? Or do they control Rom to a degree? Another thing I wished was covered is the statues, Bloodborne has alot, so many you kinda get numb to it, but some are messengers seemingly evolving into animals, other alien like creatures, and then the Amygdalas who turned out to be very real. And then in The Unseen village, you see unique statues of little alien dudes (on the side path of the gaol with a wandering madness) and then masses of human faces and arms that are covered in blankets, and when we get further into the village we see people having been sucked into walls and petrified. Definitely some of the kidnapped people probably consumed to form the One Reborn. But i now question every statue I see as either an artistic visualization of concepts, or foreshadowing of creatures we see, or literal corpses frozen in place. In the Choir there are several figured that have cloaks on, alien looking creatures clutching their stomachs, if there was a birthing farm I think these would be the mothers. And if so would Odeon be the father of each? Why would they be petrified after the Red Moon forms, as well as the Make Contact corpse? The Altar of Despair also has several organic like shapes in its architecture very interesting that things seem to petrify when “transported,” like Micolashes corpse. I suppose for a final thought is Ebritas a child if Odeon? Considering how the newborns look like her as well as seek her maternal affection (given the three before the Celestial Emissary boss room) is she the Holy Medium? Occam’s Razor suggests yes but at the same time its as clear as if Melina is the Gloam Eyed Queen, all signs would point to it being so but its not outright confirmed.
I think they knew of moon presence, but made the fatal error of beliving the great ones where a unified force. Too late did they discover that Flora was hunting the children of other great ones, a predator hunting calves of gods.
I'm so glad you're branching out to other soulsborne lore! Bloodborne has always been a favorite and I love to hear the deep dives from you! Keep going
Cheers Mars! Will do, planning to cover more
@@SmoughTown awesome :)
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The collective hunger for more lore and more understanding is the best part of Bloodborne's metanarrative. It shows us how dangerous this hunger is, yet we cannot resist the urge to know more.
This was such a great video! One additional subtlety I'd add to this discussion is the apparent difference between motivations of ascension for the School of Mensis and the Choir. The School of Mensis is noteworthy for their relatively populist approach to apotheosis compared to the Choir, the Choir's approach being elitist. Much like you outlined, the Choir was seeking their ascension as elites of the Healing Church and using the entire society below them as a resource to that end, while the School of Mensis attempted ascension throughout the entire Unseen village and as a massive group. While the Choir had no qualms about slowly working towards ascension while the city below them suffered and burned, the School of Mensis thought that the ascension of all humanity to godhood could not wait through the current catastrophe, and that is why they took such bold and reckless actions to beckon the Great Ones down to them rather than the slow process of the elites rising to the highest planes to meet the Great Ones on the highest planes.
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Fear not, the Blood, my Friend. And let the feast begin.
i was looking for hour long bloodbourne videos and found this channel that is a jack pot of all soulsbourne lore, never subbed so fast in my life
On Mensis. I think they are the older organization compared to the Choir. The Choir Members that we meet are all young, wich makes sense since they were raised in the orphanage, wich was ran by the Church. While the two main Mensis representatives that we can encounter Damian and Micolash are either Mature, or old according their look and sliders. And it is mentioned that Mensis has Elders. While thier use of tools like the Augor of Ebrietas and the Call Beyond are signiture Choir tools, BUT according their description they can be traced back to, either to the Byrgenwerth times (augor), or the early days of the church (Call Beyond). On top of these Both Damian and Micholash wears the Byrgenwerth garb, wich might imply that tey were students there. Plus Mikolash has been in the Nightmare since firs Red Moonm wich happened in the Old hunter days. As the note mentions that in Oedon Chapel: "Rom keeps our lost master fromus", wich is probably Micholash, since Mensis has an investement in killing her, because Damian can be summoned to fight Rom and she is holding back the Ritual. And in Yahar Ghul we can find mumified mensis corpses sitting in the chair way before the Red Moon appears. So the first ritual wich got Micolash into the Nightmare had to happen years if not decades ago.
An interesting note about the Brainsuckers: I believe it was in a ZullietheWitch video where they point out that there are stitches and surgical scars on the heads of Brainsuckers, implying that they may have had a phantasm surgically implanted in their brain, possibly as part of the choir's experiments.
One thing I would like to point out regarding the beast rune being a pre-church discovery is that Willem never got to see the invention of Caryll runes. The rune workshop tool says "Provost Willem would have been proud of Caryll's runes, as they do not rely upon blood in any measure" the invention of Caryll runes comes at least after the church split and potentially after Willem's enthrallment to Rom.
I just finished bloodborne 2 weeks ago, and a new video from my favourite lore channel drops, what a time to be alive!
Great timing! Hope you enjoy my take
I read "i finished Bloodborne 2" And i was like WTF HOW?
@@archer3234 Oh i didnt even notice that lmao 🤣
Oh hell yeah, Bloodborne lore! Man, I really appreciate that you take the time to explain where and/or who you get your ideas from, and where your own ideas and opinions branch off. Looking forward to more videos on Bloodborne, it's a really fascinating thing to unwrap, with so much of the eldritch horror simply spreading due to human ignorance rather than active malignance. Utterly perfect lovecraftian horror.
Thanks Kieran! I always feel it's important to make your sources clear! More Bloodborne to come 100%
I wonder if we'll ever get a sequel or spiritual successor to Bloodborne. Arabian or an Aztec/Mayan Bloodborne would be incredible! Thanks for the video Smough!!
My pleasure my friend!
Maaaaan, if we got an indigenous point of view game. A bunch of right wing dorks would be bewildered that FromSoft went "woke". Because they are too dumb to understand allegory unless you slap them in the face with it.
Yes! W the first one being victorian Britain themed I feel like they could do a really good colonization of the new world theme since I feel like that fits with the whole hubris and abuse of power vibe that permeates bloodborne
@@Shmethan yes, let's marxify bloodborne 🙄 marxist lenses make EVERYTHING better.
It works so well on its own that I don't want a sequel. Something similar would be grand, but I'm not even sure how they could pull that off. IF they did a sequel, I would hope they explore regions beyond Yharnam, perhaps exploring the aftermath of the events there and how it affected the rest of the world. But a lot of the Eldritch mystery is gone, and I wonder how they could explore the same themes and have it all be just as impactful. Either way, I do hope for a return of trick weapons, rally, and the quick dodge. Perhaps with an Estus style item and some of the innovations in From's subsequent games.
thanks for helping me understanding the planes of existence - also worth noting how the nightmare layers are on the bottom is because nightmares - dreams - represent the unconscious mind, so the lowest plane of the consciousness
I'm in real church right now, and the actual choir takes precedence, but this video will be playing on the way home before the door swings shut behind me.
Enjoy the service my friend! Looking forward to your thoughts later!
1:00:17 Another thing I think is significant that I swear nobody ever talks about is Imposter Iosefka's choice of words here. Writhe and Rapture are both Oedon's runes, in fact if you kill her before her ascension begins Imp. Iosefka drops lvl 2 Oedon Writhe, which to me implies that she's understanding and repeating the Formless Great One's words in this moment.
Yes please, more bloodborne! You're the true scholar and inspired thinker here. Your passion for the source material always shines through and the amount of research and work put into this really brings it to another level. Thank you Smough, amazing as always. Keep em coming please :)
You are too kind to me my friend, I am just really happy to share this as my passion. More to come soon my friend!
It’s so fun to see you do bloodborne lore! Thanks for making it, I love this game so much 😊
There isn’t enough in depth lore on Bloodborne. I’m glad you are doing it!
Have watched all your Elden Ring lore videos so was super excited to see you dive into Bloodbourne! Great work, as always
Great work on the video! Please make more. There aren't enough in depth Bloodborne lore videos out there.
So I picked up Bloodborne for like my 13th playthrough. Only difference is now I’m giving my hunters lore. I have three created hunters so far. My current hunter is from the healing church. I say that to say these types of lore videos are amazing!!! It adds so much more depth to an already elaborate game.
Yay! I’m looking forward to your long deep dives into Bloodborne. For some reason this game out of all the soulsborne seems the most mysterious to me.
Wow this was actually better than I thought. This really summarizes the lore well as accurate as possible.
Love to see you come back to my favourite game of all time, Geoff! I wish you the best of luck in your future works, I'm sure that as long as you do what you want to do, it will be great, and I'll be there for it!
Best lore there is. Bloodborne is unparalleled when it comes to how all the pieces work together. Love the ENB name drop as well. I miss him
ENB was the one that inspired my channel, miss him too but he's happy doing his own thing (his first game is on Kickstarter)
@@SmoughTown I didn't know that. I remember when the souls landscape consisted of him, vaati, oroboro and sunlightblade. Golden days. I'll check out his game for sure
aaaahhhhh i’ve been waiting so long for a bloodborne video in your style. let’s go!!!
I literally cannot wait for july to come around, I'll finally have enough time to catch up on all your lore amazing lore videos, thank you for keeping me excited for that time to come 🥰
Smoughtown, please keep making more Bloodborne lore videos! Your takes are so enriching, and the way you put together lore is among the best there is. I'd really love to get your perspective on everything in this game, and you're doing the whole Soulsborne community a tremendous service. Thanks a million for such great work!
Please do so many more of these, I could listen to them all day
Hell yeah! You’re Mother Kos vid is one of my favorite videos, so I am always excited for more Bloodborne vids
I still really love that video too! Hope you enjoy this one my friend
BLOODBORNE LORE! Finally! Thanks, Smough!
Let's go! Hope you enjoy!
Show me a Smoughtown Bloodborne video in 2030 and I'm still clicking it right away. What a treat
Appreciate that John
A wonderful summary of the Choir's role and place. Some points which occurred to me: - It's always so easy to look at the word "Orphanage" and think of the Choir as experimenting on orphaned children, but yes, when we actually look at the item descriptions, it becomes plain that it was those children who were groomed by the Healing Church into becoming the Choir. - The idea that Impostor Iosefka is dressed in robes she stole from the real Iosefka never occurred to me before, but that makes all kinds of sense. - While I disagree with your interpretation of where the Third Cord you get from Impostor Iosefka comes from (though it does explain why you only get it after the Blood Moon), I love the connection you make between the writhing within her thoughts and the phantasms in Great One's Wisdom.
This video actualy shined a light in more than half of the questions i had about this game. I really appreciate it as across all "souls" games BB is the one that got me the most interested and i love your perspective on it
Here we go! So been looking forward to this
That was awesome. I look forward to more. This is definitely my favorite game of all time. The atmosphere, the sounds and the feelings it brings with it. There is a reason i have a sealed boxed copy of this displayed in my studio
Can't express how much i want you to make more bloodborne lore videos!
Great video als always, smough! It’s nice to see you doing more Bloodborne lore after all these years. For everyone looking for more Bloodborne lore channels I can highly recommend Sinclaire Lore and Charred Thermos. Charred Thermos takes a similar approach to Tarnished Archeologist, focusing on real life inspirations while Sinclaire Lore is a podcast by two wonderful people which has lots of amazing insights while also keeping it very fun and entertaining. Oh, and of course Redgrave, the GOAT of Bloodborne lore.
I am sooooo excited to see youre doing bloodborne! I have over 900 hours into that game. Its my fave game of all time. Ive picked through so much lore and read everything i can find on it and im STILL learning things 8 years later! Youve become my favorite "lore hunter" thanks for all your hard work!! ❤
Really nice to see some new Bloodborne content again. It's such a deep world, it's great to dip back into it again.
Great video as always! About Impostor Iosefka, from the Item description of the chord she gives you I always thought it was the same chord Gehrman and the Old Hunters obtained from the Orphan of Kos, which Willem used to ascend Rom. My theory was that the Choir then retrieved it, as they still have a presence in byrgenwerth. Then the Impostor stole the chord and fled to the clinic to begin her own ascension. Notice how the description states that "every Infant great one" has a chord, so she couldn't develop one by just ascending herself. The only way for a chord to appear would be if a Great One was born, and the only Great one who can impregnate human women, as far as we are told, is Oedon. In Arianna's case they draw special attention to the fact that she is of the cainhurst bloodline, which is closer to the Pthumerians than regular Yharnamites, and I took it as this being the fact that allows Arianna to become pregnant with Oedon's child. The Impostor never talks about or shows pregnancy symptoms, she only says they are "writhing inside [her] head", also in the Impostor's case there is no Infant. Now, it might be because we kill her before she can give birth, and the third chord from the Orphan could be the one that Gehrman and Lawrence used to contact the moon presence and create the hunter's dream, so this is just my theory, but I would love to hear what you think about it.
Very nice! Been getting back into bloodborne lore lately, glad to see it’s got its hooks into you too!
Bloodborne is such a masterpiece and the lore plays such an intregral role in its greatness. It's so fascainating, especially the Choir. The stacking of planes is very interesting as well. Excellent work as always, Smough.
Much appreciated GhostPanda!
@@SmoughTown Pleasure's all mine, Smough!
This was wonderful! I would love a video breaking down all the info we have on each great one and your theories on them. Bloodborne has such deep and rich lore, im very excited to see more!
Thanks so much my friend! Your support as always is super appreciated. Thinking the next video will be on the Great Ones or Mensis
Been waiting for this one ! 💕
Had a bit of a thought while watching this, not sure if its already been tread, but I think I might understand Ebrietas a little better than before. So, clearly, the little slug babies in the orphanage are modeled off of Ebrietas. they've got the little wings beginning to sprout, a similar stature, and the weird little face-polyps too. Given the proximity, I'd say it makes enough sense without needing much reason. However, looking to the baby bestowed upon Arianna, it shares the same model. Given how far it is from Ebrietas, and if we consider the formless Oeden the "parent," its figure is a little more questionable. So, I thought, perhaps this form is just the form taken by all Old One "gifts." If that were the case, it would mean that, rather than just influencing the form of these beings, Ebrietas was one of these bestowed babies herself, which may very well make sense. The location she was originally discovered in is the site of a former society which dabbled in the old blood itself. It's not hard to imagine that these old cultures would have been "gifted" a Great One child much in the same way that we were. This could explain her title of the "Great One left behind." If she were born to this plane, as all the other children we see are, it makes sense why she remains and is bound to it. It may also explain how the choir managed to relocate Ebrietas. If she were still growing, she may have been much more reasonable to move, though admittedly the timeline on this is a bit questionable. Hard to imagine them moving her in her current state though. Figure it's an interesting thought anyway.
You picked the right game to go in-depth with the lore, bloodborne never got enough coverage in my eyes and you can see that with the surge of content after elden ring, ppl played it!
There's so much here. I thought this would be a 30 min video haha
I'm really excited for this video, but I'd actually argue that Bloodborne had the most in-depth theories (For a single game anyway, Dark Souls in totality wins), if only because I read all of _The Paleblood Hunt_
Few questions i would love to pose to the community: When we enter into the nightmare of Mensis, we enter through what i would assume is Micolash's body. Everyone in that room is clearly dead. When Mico says "im waking up. Ill forget everything " do you think his mind went back to a corpse to exist for a few moments before dying? Since mico is the "host of the nightmare" do you think the nightmare would colapse not having a host?
I guess that seems to be implyed, yes: he awakes in his mummified body, and dies. The Nightmare doesn't disappwar after Micolash is vanquished. Indeed, his JPN title is 悪夢の主 [Lord of the Nightmare], so even if he's the one behind its conjuring, it doesn't seem he acts as a "host" for the Nightmare.
Two things I noticed that support the stacked levels theory. First of all the hunters dream also appears to be a stacked nightmare realm. Second, in the call beyond spell it says a lofty (high) darkness and then notes that even thought they were in this lofty darkness, they failed to make contact suggesting that there was something to make contact with
Bloodborne lore is kinda what I needed today. Thanks, *and may the good blood guide your way*
Loved the video man, really enjoyed your take on bb. My first big dive into soulsborne lore was with bloodborne, always enjoyed the videos since finding out about them. Look forward to your next one's 😁
I have definitely looking forward to more Bloodborne lore videos. This one was great.
Fantastic video, this interpretation widened my view on the connection between the sky and the cosmos and higher planes of thought with Miyazakis in-game symbolism. I also, didn't really pay attention to the orphanage backstory of the Choir, thank you! Love your accent.
Thank you for jumping back into Bloodborne, amazing content as always!
My pleasure! Thanks so much for checking it out
Awesome video, really glad to see these concepts being further discussed. Charred Thermos did a wonderful series about real world correlations to the game as an analogy to the medical procedures and study during Victorian Edinborough, Scotland that mirrored a lot of the ideas brought up here about the clinical nature and attitudes of the Choir.
Yeh I 100% need to check out this channel, been hearing about it a lot in the comments!
Smough, thank you so much to you, your team and your sponsors for bringing bloodborne lore to the forefront for new souls players, and old ones like myself. Bloodborne was my first souls game and still my favorite, and to see this much dedication poured into deciphering the lore is much appreciated for someone whos always been missing kne last piece of the puzzle. Hope to see what you have next!
My pleasure my friend and thank you so much for being here and supporting me. I will have more to come, you can bet on that!
Bloodborne might be my favorite game flavor wise. I was so excited for this video and you never disappoint. Thank you for all your hard work and care that you do!
I never really liked Eldrich horror stuff, but bloodborne does it so perfectly that it’s one of my favorite games ever.
So happy to get a Bloodborne video from you!
So happy to do one! Thank you so much
man, dude! Your BB content is something else. I hope you make alot more!
Thanks so much my friend! Defo more to come
i have been excited to watch this all day after seeing it in my subscription box!!
Dude you're the GOAT. Thanks for all your fine work.
This got a like before I viewed it. Never gonna get enough of that sweet sweet lore!
I can't express how much I love that you're doing Bloodborne lore
Thanks so much! I'm excited to be returning to Yharnam
i really missed lore videos of bloodborne, thanks for bringing the joy back smough. also i would like to mention that school of mensis that they work with pthumarians, and my theory is that the pthumarians wants the great ones blessing back(oeden especially) by reviving his son back, and in return the school of mensis will gain the knowledge to ascend, for thus the bell barings ladies and the snatchers are also a phtumarian, and the ost we hear before beating rom is them singing for a ritual that devour the whole yhargul
Loved the video! I would be more than happy to see your thoughts on other aspects of Bloodborne.
Bloodborne is peak Cosmic horror. I always reference aspects of this game’s story when talking about the genre. FromSoft nailed it.
Agreed - really captures the atmosphere
@@SmoughTown I don’t see anyone talking about this and Idk if this observation would make sense but I think we, the Hunter, become a god because we use both the blood and insight. While the Church and Bergenworth have opposing views on the Blood, they don’t realize they’re both right. The key to godhood was both in the Blood and Mind. We use the Blood throughout our journey, both in the vials and in the Blood Echoes. Because we get items of Insight we are able to keep our mind intact. When we get the Blood Echoes of the Moon Presence we add its power to our own, but because of the Umbilical Cords, lining our mind with eyes, we get the Insight needed to retain our consciousness upon transformation into the squid baby. Beings like Rom, who presumably did not have used the Blood, become more pitiful creatures that misshapen and relatively weak. Their Insight gave them the key to evolution but the body they gain is lacking. Whereas those that become Beasts have the opposite problem, their bodies are strong, sometimes misshaped, but are powerful nonetheless. But their strength comes at the cost of consciousness. They are mindless creatures acting on primal instincts. The Choir attempts the thing we accomplished. Using the Blood and Insight to ascend. But they were experimental, creating monsters and even their own Old One in The One Reborn. Ultimately the Choir abandoned the endgame of their experiments. They opted to give up their physical bodies and ascend their minds into Nightmare of Mensis. They evolved to become part of the cosmos, not evolve into one the gods as we do. How ironic, we achieve their goals without even trying.
I just want more BB. Great job on the video by the way. I appreciate the dedication to this awesome game!
Yes! More Bloodborne! Any reason to talk about this game, whoo!
Hahaha absolutely!
Amazing video as always
Great video, even after all these years there's so much to unpack with this game. Would like to see a video talking about pale blood
I've followed your channel for some years, remember your coverage of Blasphemous! Amazingly proud of you and your detailed work. You do amazing lore videos.
Tha't so awesome, you humble me. So pleased to have had your support this long! Thank you
Thank you for the bloodlore 🙏 please cover the vilebloods next they're my favorite faction in this game
Bloodborne lore now? Plus I just stumbled across your Warframe lore videos.. wow. Great job, we are lucky to have you!
Thank you my friend, Im really grateful people watch videos of mine on different subjects
Always happy for more of my favorite game! What better way than a hour and 20 minute video from the guy who has poured so much love and care into his souls lore We as a community appreciate the fuck outta you
Yo that means the world to me my friend I love this community and the lore, and support like yours keeps me going!
@SmoughTown it's funny you say that, when it's content and creators like yourself that helps keep this community talking and helping each other. Once you get past the layer of git gud jokes, this is the most friendly, helpful, happy gaming groups I've seen
@@TommasoFirmini Totally agree - my interactions in this community are 99% full of positivity
hell yeah, love your souls/elden ring content and am happy to see Bloodborne stuff. I'll keep watching and maybe one of these days I'll start a new BB playthru. Appreciate you always, great content!
Great lore to listen to while working out. Loving it.
This is already making wanna start replaying bloodborne haha great work
Cheers dude! Great to see you here
Great video! This game has just amazing creature design, still can't believe how incredible this game is.
Smough, your work is just an absolute delight. I've watched every single thing you've done for Elden Ring, and loved every second of it. And now you're covering my favourite game not just by From Software, but my favourite game ever made. It's bona fide literature of a game, and worthy of all the analysis it's been given. I'm thrilled you're covering it.
Thanks Tom, really appreciate that my friend! Yeah I am super excited to be covering this masterpiece once more and delighted to have you join me!
❤ Yay for you tackling Bloodborne! Thanks! Your fantastic!
currently replaying bloodborne after like 5 years and i am all for this
Oh, majestic! What a treat you've given us, surprising us with some Bloodborne lore.
About time we got back around to some good old BB lore
You've really planted eyes on my brain that i didn't forsee with this one. Mensis splitting from the choir makes alot more sense than what I and others thought about the church's timeline. Also I've always seen mensis' hostility to the rest of the church and desire to force a meeting with great ones as almost a parallel to laurence leaving byrgenwerth believing that he and humanity were more ready for ascension than Willem believed. History repeating itself and accelerating Yharnam's fall. Of course there's alot of implications for history repeating itself in the civilizations we learn about in the dungeons and great ones that were possibly born/made from them on a larger scale than just the church's history, but that'll be interesting to see you explore in potential future videos. Great video as always. Bloodborne is my favorite game ever and your coverage was an absolute treat. Thanks for all the work you put into this ❤
Agree, the Labyrinths are such a cool reminder of how much has come before us. I'm glad you liked my take on Mensis! It was just the conclusion that made most sense to me. Thanks so much James, it's my pleasure and thank you so much for the support.