Why Computer Vision Is a Hard Problem for AI

2024 ж. 12 Мам.
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Computer scientist Alexei Efros suffers from poor eyesight, but this has hardly been a professional setback. It's helped him understand how computers can learn to see. At the Berkeley Artificial Intelligence Research Lab (BAIR), Efros combines massive online data sets with machine learning algorithms to understand, model and re-create the visual world. His work is used in iPhones, Adobe Photoshop, self-driving car technology, and robotics. In 2016, the Association for Computing Machinery awarded him its Prize in Computing for his work creating realistic synthetic images, calling him an “image alchemist.” In this video, Efros talks about the challenges and changing paradigms of computer vision for AI.
00:00 Why vision is a hard problem
1:18 History of computer vision
2:01 Alexei's scientific superpower
3:14 The role of large-scale data
3:37 Computer vision in the Berkeley Artificial Intelligence Lab
4:15 The drawbacks of supervised learning
4:57 Self-supervised learning
5:33 Test-time training
7:08 The future of computer vision
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  • I love that with 120.000 citations, he is regarding the grad students and the next generation of scientists as his biggest achievement.

    @weinhardtadam1159@weinhardtadam11596 ай бұрын
  • It's great that there are professors out there that value their students as their greatest achievement!

    @Alex-rh5jo@Alex-rh5jo6 ай бұрын
    • I have no idea where you are from, but I have studied in two continents, 3 different universities, and this was my experience in all of o them. Academia is just an amazing world.

      @ev.c6@ev.c66 ай бұрын
    • ​@@ev.c6then u r lucky that you got this kind of experience bcz mine wasn't.😅

      @blueAndblack-ec6jk@blueAndblack-ec6jk6 ай бұрын
    • ​@@ev.c6until some people try to get popular by changing the data and embellishing things. Bad apples yes, but they look the most appetizing until you bite into one.

      @whannabi@whannabi6 ай бұрын
    • Hiw do they work so hard for so long and not get bored and tired and frustrated?

      @leif1075@leif10756 ай бұрын
    • ​@@blueAndblack-ec6jkis working 8 hours a day enough as a grad student so it doesn't have to fucking wear you out or take over your life?

      @leif1075@leif10756 ай бұрын
  • As a computer scientist working in Computer Vision tasks (and other AI applications) for medical imaging processing, this video made me smile :)

    @joaoguerreiro9403@joaoguerreiro94036 ай бұрын
    • In a good way?

      @smirnovslava@smirnovslava6 ай бұрын
    • Made me smile in the same way. One of the first things my professor told me at the beginning of the phd was that his goal is to make me a better scientist than him. Really nice moment to see this guy so passionate about it as well.

      @azyrael96@azyrael966 ай бұрын
    • As some random guy sick of seeing these subtle humble brag comments, your comment made me cringe

      @nutmeg0144@nutmeg01446 ай бұрын
    • Next time I’ll be more modest @nutmeg0144 :)

      @joaoguerreiro9403@joaoguerreiro94036 ай бұрын
    • All they said was that they work in the field and enjoyed seeing the video? The only thing cringe was your response@@nutmeg0144

      @rijulranjan8514@rijulranjan85142 ай бұрын
  • Thank you for the insights and this very well produced video!

    @werwardas1@werwardas16 ай бұрын
  • Wonderful video! I love everything this channel has made!

    @JZFeser@JZFeser6 ай бұрын
  • I love how at 8:08 one of the students' phone falls out of their pocket and everyone turns and looks at it

    @brianfunt2619@brianfunt26193 ай бұрын
  • my favorite topic in CS

    @xXMaDGaMeR@xXMaDGaMeR6 ай бұрын
  • Love this channel

    @greatviktor4017@greatviktor40176 ай бұрын
  • Wonderful! Looking forward to the future!

    @MichaelFergusonVideos@MichaelFergusonVideos6 ай бұрын
  • Read more about Alexei Efros's research in a written interview by Susan D'Agostino on the Quanta website: www.quantamagazine.org/the-computing-pioneer-helping-ai-see-20231024/ Quanta is conducting a series of surveys to better serve our audience. Take our video audience survey and you will be entered to win free Quanta merchandise: quantamag.typeform.com/video

    @QuantaScienceChannel@QuantaScienceChannel6 ай бұрын
    • I am waiting for a video on the progress of Quantum Optics. 😃 I am hoping to pursue research in this field and it has some of the greatest ideas of all of experimental physics.

      @primenumberbuster404@primenumberbuster4046 ай бұрын
  • All very interesting. I wonder if we are limiting computer vision by only considering human vision. Each other organism has vision selected to make the organism successful, and its not like ours. I wonder if there is something we can learn from this diversity of purpose for visual systems in all organisms. Alexei Efros has touched on this diversity of purpose with his own experience of vision.

    @BenMitro@BenMitro6 ай бұрын
    • yeah well computer vision in ranges of the electromagnetic spectrum outside of visible light exist. That is more relevant to hardware: how the sensor is detecting light and what range of frequencies etc. Once it becomes image data of whatever kind, the convolutional neural networks do their thing and don't really care about how "humans" see things.

      @dexterrity@dexterrity6 ай бұрын
    • @@dexterrity There also sonar for bats and other creatures, but I was thinking more about the cognitive processes, although yes, the hardware is certainly required.

      @BenMitro@BenMitro6 ай бұрын
    • ​@@TzaraDuchamp Efros made a point of his personal experience with low vision which helped him move forward. I was just proposing that perhaps we could move forward by considering a broader specturm of experience by tapping into animal vision. Its not about how computers currently perform computer vision algorithms, its about learning how we could uncover insights that allows us to enhance or redesign computer vision.

      @BenMitro@BenMitro6 ай бұрын
    • First problem is that humans are creating AI. We are going to be AI's limit

      @Siroitin@Siroitin6 ай бұрын
    • @@TzaraDuchamp You misunderstood me - I was wondering if we could get more insight from a broader view. I didn't cast any aspersions on Efros - in fact I admire the man. Maybe reading too much between the lines?

      @BenMitro@BenMitro6 ай бұрын
  • Love the short video!❤

    @terryliu3635@terryliu3635Ай бұрын
  • thank you for explanation!

    @liangcherry@liangcherry28 күн бұрын
  • Thank you👍

    @brain_respect_and_freedom@brain_respect_and_freedom6 ай бұрын
  • I had an idea when I was working on my thesis that if we have transformer for vision and a new embedding system that treat the visual data like human we can have a model that will understand the images of the universe that is beyond the computer ability of human brains such as the cosmic microwave background. But it’s an idea only😢

    @presence5834@presence583426 күн бұрын
  • so amazing.😍😍🤩🤩.good luck.

    @alirezaahmadi5018@alirezaahmadi50186 ай бұрын
  • Interesting to see the distribution of ethnicities along that outside shot bench.. humans are drawn to those with whom they assume they might have common ground. Just an observation. Might be wrong.

    @tim40gabby25@tim40gabby256 ай бұрын
  • Nice informative video.

    @harishhanchinal2838@harishhanchinal28386 ай бұрын
  • what about use analogue computing in the futur for AI ?

    @Fine_Mouche@Fine_Mouche6 ай бұрын
  • Cool!!!❤❤

    @andrewsun4385@andrewsun43856 ай бұрын
  • Man.. I wish you were my CS professor. 👍

    @a4ldev933@a4ldev9334 ай бұрын
  • This is a very good interview. I am glad to see that it's validating my intuition, about the fact that models should continuously learn instead to being frozen, and then retrained from scratch. One of the biggest difficulties to improve the current techniques is reducing models size. I don't know how much data a real brain can store, but given the miniaturization of current chips, I suspect we are wasting resouces. Anecdote: I have bad eyesight as well. 😂

    @lilhaxxor@lilhaxxor5 ай бұрын
  • Computer vision is so fun!

    @kylebowles9820@kylebowles98206 ай бұрын
  • Computer scientist Alexei Efros suffers from poor eyesight, but this has hardly been a professional setback. It's helped him understand how computers can learn to see. At the Berkeley Artificial Intelligence Research Lab, Efros combines massive online data sets with machine learning algorithms to understand, model and re-create the visual world. His work is used in iPhones, Adobe Photoshop, self-driving car technology, and robotics. In 2016, the Association for Computing Machinery awarded him its Prize in Computing for his work creating realistic synthetic images, calling him an “image alchemist.” In this video, Efros talks about the challenges and changing paradigms of computer vision.

    @autonomous_collective@autonomous_collective6 ай бұрын
  • AI generated timestamps 0:00: 👁 Computer vision is a complex process that is difficult for computers to replicate, but advancements are being made. 2:56: 🌳 Visual data and its importance in machine learning and computer vision. 5:58: 🔑 Computers struggle to generalize in their machine learning algorithms, but test time training can help improve their performance.

    @1.4142@1.41426 ай бұрын
    • wow

      @mihailmilev9909@mihailmilev99096 ай бұрын
    • Wow

      @mihailmilev9909@mihailmilev99096 ай бұрын
    • Were the emojis from the AI too?

      @mihailmilev9909@mihailmilev99096 ай бұрын
    • yup @@mihailmilev9909

      @1.4142@1.41426 ай бұрын
  • Thumbnail lookin’ like a front foot catch 3 flip

    @severusgomez4979@severusgomez49795 ай бұрын
  • 5:28 he is so deep inside, he calls us 'agents'

    @_soundwave_@_soundwave_3 ай бұрын
  • What about computer audition?

    @OBGynKenobi@OBGynKenobi6 ай бұрын
  • I also have Myopia

    @AyushSharma80001@AyushSharma80001Ай бұрын
  • So AI is just data with some selective results from that data ..is it ?

    @bharatjoshi9889@bharatjoshi98895 ай бұрын
  • the problem is that even if you watch a real video from nature on the screen, it is not real for your eyes, a two-dimensional image plus unrealistic colors of the screen, i.e. resolution..

    @strangevideos3048@strangevideos30483 ай бұрын
  • Waiting for the day when computer vision beat skills of georainbolt

    @k-c@k-c29 күн бұрын
  • Computers cannot see, and will never see, they only process information, but will never see.

    @ElParacletoPodcast@ElParacletoPodcast4 ай бұрын
  • Computer vision is hard because it's right at the mercy of the so-called curse of dimensionality.

    @kengounited@kengounited6 ай бұрын
  • Two minute paper 😊

    @strangevideos3048@strangevideos30483 ай бұрын
  • thx for supporting Ukraine

    @abursuk@abursuk6 ай бұрын
  • cool and first comment

    @enesmahmutkulak@enesmahmutkulak6 ай бұрын
  • I was early.

    @PythonAndy@PythonAndy6 ай бұрын
  • We literally have cameras for a few centuries now, making AI learn to "see" is just that, a camera attached to AI processing it, we already feed AI with pics and make it learn visually

    @JuliusUnique@JuliusUnique6 ай бұрын
    • There are multiple levels of vision. Everything from pattern matching is to recognizing symbols to identifying and interacting with objects. We see mostly with our brains, for instance.

      @jsmunroe@jsmunroe6 ай бұрын
    • @@jsmunroe I thought it's just having a lot of digital neurons and then letting them figure out the concept of patterns themselves

      @JuliusUnique@JuliusUnique6 ай бұрын
    • @@JuliusUniquewell usually you train a model on the dataset of images or videos then once it is trained you can test its capabilities by feeding an input image/video that wasnt in the training data now this is just a very simplified explanation and its more complex than that

      @Earth-To-Zan@Earth-To-Zan6 ай бұрын
  • Just convert a 2d plane to 3d calculations 😂

    @ValidatingUsername@ValidatingUsername6 ай бұрын
    • that's how our brain works converting 3D into 2D then analysing the image

      @YacineBenjedidia-wm6pw@YacineBenjedidia-wm6pw6 ай бұрын
  • 3:35 Slava Ukraini

    @djp1234@djp12346 ай бұрын
  • you didn't explain how AI learns to see, like at all, i'm gonna have to give a thumbs down

    @dronefootage2778@dronefootage27786 ай бұрын
    • Panoptic segmentation is to complicated for an eight minute video

      @-p2349@-p23496 ай бұрын
  • stop the insipid background music

    @sillystuff6247@sillystuff62476 ай бұрын
    • i don't think it is insipid at all

      @jasperhilliard6289@jasperhilliard62896 ай бұрын
  • Still not "AI" and this exploitation of the term is exhausting. He even admits its about data comprehension ie algorithmic formulations (tiered) and not unprovoked generation which is and was the metric for the term. We have lost the boundaries of what things are so as to cater to branding for $$$

    @fionagrutza9291@fionagrutza92916 ай бұрын
    • yes hype and money!!!

      @ItIsJan@ItIsJan6 ай бұрын
    • its exactly AI, what are you talking about? maybe very old Computer vision was, recent research into the domain is all AI. If anything, Computer vision was the field impacted most by AIl, especially in early days of deep learning.

      @khalilsabri7978@khalilsabri79786 ай бұрын
    • @@khalilsabri7978 You could then assign any and every computational process as "AI" based on the metrics you and they are suggesting wildly. What was once labeled "bots" with keyword association generative replies are now "AI" bcz every thing has been rebranded to serve a new narrative for profit. AI used to have a requisite to meet in order to be classified as AI, we had science fiction esk tests as thresholds, and if you can claim any of these things just abundantly appearing all of a sudden today meet those standards, then you are a mindless consumer. Image generation from keywords is not AI its is algorithmic compiling. ChatGPT is just search aggregation with a fancy front end. None of these things generate information independent of the user defined rules or software defined boundaries, thus why it is so easy to censor information immediately. As for research, literally nothing has changed.. data is compiled, an algorithmic is authored to seek a model, where is the AI?

      @fionagrutza9291@fionagrutza92916 ай бұрын
    • Unprovoked generation is and was the metric for the term in which field? Computer science, or science fiction and general aspiration? Thinking of early intelligence in single-celled life, a part of it must have been in reacting to light when moving around in the water. Seeing energy, food, and the environment. Is that not intelligence enough for something not alive yet to be able to autonomously sense and react to the world. Artificial intelligence for me should connect all modes of sensing and making inferences into a single place. Then, computer vision is exactly AI in the same sense as computer generation "unprovoked" or not.

      @Saturnine37@Saturnine376 ай бұрын
  • Vision is hard problem for.humans and animals too. We need a lot of frames and points of view to figure things out, and still make a lot of mistakes.

    @vitalyl1327@vitalyl1327Ай бұрын
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