How do you feel about Sheldon Keefe taking responsibility in his goodbye message to Leafs Nation? How do you sum up Keefe’s tenure with the Maple Leafs? Who do you think should be Toronto’s next head coach? Can the Maple Leafs win if the core stays intact? Bryan Hayes joins SC with Jay Onrait to discuss.
That keefe video honestly touched me a little bit. You forget the human side of the game sometimes. I wish him nothing but the best.
Yea true
Ya at least Keefe owned it. Too bad the players dont.
What did he own? Did he resign? He had to be fired.
@@ScubaSteveCanada He owned his failure after. Not ideal I agree but only one that has at this point.
@StephenShawCanada he shouldn't have been fired, he was better than anyone else they will hire. They fucked up. The gm needs to find pieces that are built for playoffs.
If Rod Brindamour becomes available, absolutely hire him.
He’s very likely re signing so if you wait you likely miss on both
So like, fired a coach that couldn't get it done in the playoffs with a 1 for 23 powerplay, can't get his team to score in the playoffs... for a guy that keeps getting swept in the ECF, can't get his team to score and can't make the powerplay work right now.
If Carolina lose Brindamour over a few hundred thousand dollars, then that's the biggest dropped ball I've ever seen!
They might not even resign him if they get swept
@@tarunramanathan9340 BrindAmours team might lose 4 - 0 but they won’t be “swept” lol
Canes are down 3-0 in their series. You sure Rod is the guy? Sounds like another Keefe.
He is not the goaltender on his team who muffed it and he does not control the fact that New York has a much better goaltender! Goaltenders can win games. That is the only reason why New York is winning.
Ya I agree if they get swept id hire Berube still
I liked the idea of Berube, especially after being with The Leafs. I think there might be too much of a chance that he’ll lose the room. They need to completely remove the Core 4 or 5 and bring in some D and a goalie…
this wasn't coaches fault this is on dubas he left us a mess. you can't pay 4 forwards that kinda cap% and win. Also our pp sucks because we don't have a proper #1 dman with a bomb from the point. morgan isn't a great defensive dman and he sucks on pp
They were expecting the Cap to increase ... it didn't.
I agree
In the sense that it's not all on Keefe, I'd agree. But he also wasn't a good coach, got outcoached every playoff series he was in.
His assistant coaches that are in charge of PP and PK let everyone down.
Exactly
let's see how good of friends keefe and dubas are. he should hire him. keefeis a good reg season coach
WTF is TSN showing betting odds on coaching changes. Is sports betting so important now its infiltrated everything? What a joke.
I miss Pat Quinn so much..
So much Pat Quinn miss I...
There’s a reason why he’s not in the mix as of right now. The Chicago scandal as you must’ve heard
Ironically the Big Irishman got axed similarly when he had an incredible regular season record like Keefe does. Pat Quinn and Pat Burns are both looking down shaking their heads that nothing has changed in the Front Office. Easier to fire coaches than call out the players for messing it all up and not playing for their Coach every game. Pat Burns would tell Keefe go to New Jersey and repeat winning a Stanley Cup down there for me!
@@shivb3165The Chicago scandal!? Part Quinn died ten years ago.
And pat burns
100% Quennville
Joel Quennville just may be able to do something with these guys...hope they land him
Gary Bettman doesn’t think it’s time to re-instate Coach Q.
Unfortunately MLSE is to woke and Gary won't let it happen, he'll make sure Q goes to somewhere else Unfortunately. Wish they could hire him
Agreed
Joel is the answer. Cup in 2 yrs max with Joel at the helm. He has been the whipping boy for Chicago management long enough.
Quenneville please
Nobody wants quenneville after that scandal😮
Yes, but he's paid his pennance and would possibly help the Leafs culture (possibly), unlike some of the other potential coaching candidates.
We need the money to sign the next big defenseman who comes up on free agency, heck, let's get 2. That's been the problem since time immemorial with the Leafs. We've never had a Norris trophy winner, ever, in over 100 years of existence. They can't even sign McCabe!!! Defense, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure that one out. Morgan Rielly is a nice guy, he's not a bonafide number 1, in Toronto, yes, but not anywhere else.
Quenneville is likely the most able and successful coach available (controversy with Chicago notwithstanding)… Hunter would be high on my list as well. Berube is more than able but will his style mix well with the culture in that Leaf locker room?
Classy farewell words, Humility and blue skies -- Good luck, Sheldon Keefe👏 Hockey Haiku Musings
That was his equivalent of a cover letter for his resume. He'll find another team to work for.
Hayesy is right - goaltending needs to be addressed. Marner to Anaheim for Gibson and 2nd pairing D; cash in, cash out. Go let Marner "be the man" in Anaheim, if he can. McCabe and Benoit need to stay. They're not always perfect, but they understand sacrifice. That will get you farther in the playoffs...
Step One is accomplished - coach fired,even though he wasn’t the problem. Step Two - culture change too soft,incapable of consistency,motivation,grit,will,desire,commitment,drive,discipline,will and heart. Need to break up the core four. Marner is the poster boy for not stepping up in pressure games. Too busy figure skating during warmup instead of back checking. Tavares signing was a waste from the get go. Step Three - get a coach who “scares” these players and holds them accountable. Step Four - Number One Goalie Step Five - Defence wins championships,offence sells tickets during regular season but playoff hockey needs defensive commitment. Step Six - Shanaplan 10 years - 1 playoff round series win. What other NHL organization would accept or tolerate that ?
Step 1. Keefe is an incompetent playoff coach for the NHL. Hired with absolutely no NHL experience by a GM with no NHL experience. Step 3. Babcock already "scared" the players but he wasn't retained. The league is afraid of the image that Quenville will portray and is a PR nightmare. Step 6. Why do you think Shanahan hasn't been fired? Could it be he's better as a business-man than a hockey man? And, the owners only care about $$$.
Yes a coach that can light a fire under them without being gagged by the Front Office is needed. Keefe had to apologize when calling them out and that's just wrong. The Front Office should back their coach for being honest when needed. It's not about the players it's about accountability.
Gerard Gallant as new Leafs coach👍🤔? Radical suggestion: if John Tavares isn't willing to waive his NMC, then is it worth the Leafs buying him out? It would cetainly send a very loud message to the remaing team members and Leafs fans, about the new path being undertaken.
No way willly or matthwes will work with gallant. Gallant better fits Buffalo... I think Tornto need a calming veteran presence...Keefe wad calming but I don't think he has much to show. AV is a good identity guy but ya Todd can get to guys when they ACTUALLY deserve it and not go over board like babs or tortz. The thing here though is tortz and babs got it done... JT I'd the leafs best veteran. Kinda shocking to see how fast people Wana write him off... Trade marner. He plays scared and you can't rely on him to step up when you need him. Overrated defensively and I see him as a Wana be superstar finding himself on the 2nd line. A classic Alex lafernire prototype who is DEPENDENT on star players.boosting his stats/ coach putting him in situations that make him look better then he is. Gallant and berube gunna make the team fall. Rod on the other hand is an interesting take.
If they buyout Tavares, they only shave like 400k off the cap hit for next season. He gets paid in almost all bonuses
@@iainbell6556 Yes, I absolutely get that point, but the reason for my question was basically because if the Leafs organization was genuinely interested in blowing things up now (as opposed to firing Keefe and then just making minor cosmetic changes around the edges) AND taking a far tougher, less indulgent approach to this team's supposed leading players going forwards, then buying out John Tavares (particularly if he proves stubborn as regards any possible move out, this off-season), MIGHT provide the kind of system shock that many of these guys clearly need. It would effectively state for all to see that 'business as usual' is both over and no longer acceptable in the future either. John Tavares is a decent guy and I really don't dislike him at all. However, this is not really about him, but rather about starting the process of dramatically changing the direction and playing staff on this team. In that context only, perhaps a buyout just might make sense, then.
@@BrownKnee666 Hey, thanks for the detailed comeback, here. Take your point about Gerard Gallant, but in this case, I felt that giving the coaching job to somebody like him just might give the core of this team exactly the kind of kick up the a**, that they definitely need to see. Your take on Mitch Marner is pretty spot-on, by the way🎯. Bottom line: MM will not get down in the trenches come playoff time, and he simply loses focus and positional awareness with alarming frequency at key points in big playoffs games. He says all the right things, but when push comes to shove, he just seems to lose heart and interest when the going gets heated and/or physical. Thanks for your great reply. Enjoy your hockey out there👍!
Their is really no reason to trade JT. If anything he has been the most consistent maple leaf out their. Matthwes is good but disappears on and off the ice playoffs. Something with his attitude... you know it is true that they got into playoffs with big injury problems but that's not an excuse. You got to game 7. You had your team put their. You lost. Reilley don't get enough credit carrying a crap blue line. Littoral crap. When brodie is your 2nd best defenseman you know that management got their head up their ass.... 1. Pesce, Montour. Get them. Locke them up. 2. Resign doomi not bertuzzi. 3. Gallant. Remember what happened to him and the bread man. You don't want that. Gallant and berube emphasize a hard d game. Todd gives the team freedom but holds them responsible. I don't think Keefe did that and relied soly on offense because he is a Dubas guy and just proves offense does not win games. Just big contracts. 4. I wouldn't fire Shanahan so fast because I would.blame it more on ownership and ya treliving kinda making his mark but didn't hit the spot. The only good singing/ move I liked from him was Domi, giving Robertson a chance, McMann looks good not sure why he wasn't in playoffs so much, and Joel edmudson. 5. Your role players in kampf jankrook and Reaves are terrible. Use that 5mil to get a God damn top 4 dman or at least 2 guys that can play defense and not have Ilya fucking lubuahkin playing with Morgan reileyy. It's a joke. Morgan ain't no EK65 so stop putting your players against the grain here and value them for what they are and build around them. Let's not lie to ourselves. 2 last quick observations. Krider is not a captain because he doesn't hold that oh so valuable intgaiables. Good hockey player. But that's not captain material. JT is a captain but not on this team. This team lives and dies off of matthwes. So give him the responsibility. I'm sure JT will make a great A with Morgan and no fancy stuff with rotating A's. Simple and clean. Matthwes JT Morgan in that order. Matthwes needs to feel the pressure for some reason I think he is not playing balls or heart our their more then marner. The culture needs to change and players and staff can't be like... tight group we were close. It's not hood enough. You lost less then 5min In OT. Be honest. It's not good enough and need change. Not dramatic but something gotta go. Last but not least. Ian Cole, Carson Soucy. A+ signings. Buffalo tried to take a page out here as well with Johnson and Clifton but those are clearly not the guys you want. These are #6 guys, Cole and Soucy are your best bottom pair dman and they say, you can only go far as tour weakest link. 1. Identity 2. Culture 3. Accountability It's all about intgaiables.
As an outsider looking in this is who I think would make men out of the soy leafs(this should be the #1 priority for whoever they bring in) 1-Mike Sullivan(If Dumbas does some stupid stuff like replace Sully with Keefe 😂) 2-Coach Q (if he was available I would immediately throw a bank check at him yesterday) 3-Rob(Canes would be nuts to let him walk) If the Leafs choices are Berube or Macellan as some are speculating, they better run not walk to Berubes house when they gave off the jet. Todd has coached half the league already. He's not that guy. He would make ZERO difference from Keefe. A also like Gallant for this team if all else fails.
I’m not concerned with what Keefe said,I’m more concerned with what Keith Pelley said at that press conference-“Brendan Shanahan is a champion.” Let that sink in,then tell me how I should have any confidence that next season will be any different than this past season?
My number one choice for the Leafs next coach for sure without question would be ROD BRINDAMOUR! He would be great and they should do everything they can to get him!
Quenville makes sense
If you trade Mitch Marner, Mitch becomes the next Taylor Hall, where he fades off into the abyss, Has a couple of good seasons points wise, And becomes irrelevant
Does it really matter who the coach is when you don’t get full buy in from the core at the times, effort on a consistent basis + team construction and an unbalanced roster
How many of the Core 4 were riding the press box for not following the coach's game plan? This is the type of coach the Leafs need. And, break up the Core 4 b/c two of them are leaving next year and you'll get nothing when they do leave. Like Muzzin & Murray - nothing.
@@ScubaSteveCanada this core was pampered. Shanahan personally calling them last spring.. providing cookies and breast milk for snacks between periods
Quenville is the coach we need. Berube doesn’t have enough experience. Quenville will coach again - so get him or watch him coach your rival.
Whats going on with Matt Murray?
WTF does that have to do with this topic? 🤡
I want Joel Quennville he kicked ass with Chicago with Kane and Toews and Keith and Seabrook he's perfect for the Leafs situation
Quennville
Keefe was great. A new coach wont make a difference. Its the players who make the difference
Joel Quennville
Not gonna happen
My picks are 1-Bruce Boudreau. 2- JoelQ (if the League will let him back in) 3- Craig Berube 4- Boucher Honourable mentions- Rod Brind’Amour.
Boudreau? Keefe was already Boudreau 2.0; a coach who dominated the regular season but could never get it done in the playoffs. Hard pass on Boudreau.
Nice Don Cherry quote 👍
Brindamour would be my pick as well. If the core five can't be moved, then I would say that the coaching staff try to change the game style of the players, make them play different. Encourage MArner to get his nose dirty so to speak, make the players get to the net front, and so on. JMO
I am hoping that would be the case and do a little tinkering and not put out the 4th line out after a huge goal. It would be nice if there was a healthy or healthier #1 goalie or #2 that could be somewhat reliable….
A coach who is comfortable with a long rebuild
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the next coach is going to inherent all the same issues... a complete lack of defense, AHL at best level goaltending, and a core four that care more about breaking the bank than they do about winning the cup.. but maybe a coach that doesn't defend his players against every criticism or hold them accountable for their play might make a difference, though they still won't win
Joel Norman Quenneville or Rod Brindamour
LEAFS- Coach ✅ Gloalie(s) ❌ Defence❌ Core 4❌ Houston!.. we have a problem.
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Quenneville
We want chief
Gretzky
Ted Nolan should be the next coache. because he's a native Indian he's been blackballed from the N. H. L.
Well I mean, that's not true. This is a guy who was offered multiple jobs he turned down. He maybe deserved bigger financial offers than he got at times, but that's not the same as being blackballed. Particularly when you remember he made a play to have his GM fired, had issues with Hasek and as such other GMs were hesitant to work for him.
The Leafs just announced Justin Bieber as their next head coach...
Babcock was right about Marner all along, the Leafs would probably have a cup by now if they had kept Babs and traded the baby.
I think the Leafs core is too soft to be able to handle a Berube....those players are going to miss Keefe within half of the year.
Keefe will be back in another coaching role, book it. He’ll reflect and make adjustments. The issue is the roster build, team culture in particular due to the core four. Move Marner and Tavares, get a new coach who can imprint a new brand of Leafs hockey.
Of course he will. He’s already linked to New Jersey.
No he won't he shouldn't coach no nhl team inexperienced not good .send him back to the AHL
With Shanahan at the helm this team is going no where
I agree 💯 percent
Brind’Amour would be the alpha-dog of the pack of available coaches….however, can the Leafs risk the waiting game and would he actually be available from the Canes?….that’s a heavy gamble….⏳
Brind’amour
Right, a new coach will really toughen these softies up. 😂 It’s the construction of the team by Shanahan that’s the problem and he’s unbelievably still around…
The coach can't even post a video without the media ripping him somehow! Good lord show some fkn respect you desk jockeys!!
Trade marner or Zegras Fowler and Vatrano. If th3y can get gibson great. But they must get depth and AT LEAST AN ACTUAL TOP 4 DMAN. Reilley is. #1 guy. He isnt an erik karlson who just needs methot. Reilley gunna be handicapped with a brodie by his side. Get brett pesce. Get montour. And get by the forst round. I mean how do you sign john klinberg? Spending 40mil on 4 guys to score goals so why you getting a 4th foward. Red flag. 1. Hire Macleanan 2. Trade marner ( 3 guys and picks/prospects). Sure fowler is older but he clearly still is a top 4 dman and sit would be the best defamen they had in 5 years beaides reilley. Thats progression if you ask me. 3. Matthwes Captain Last note. Why did they hire treliving when he completely botched matty and Johnny. His guy was huberdeau and now look at him. Kadri aint no barkov. Why did kadri win the cup. Becayse he is a 2nd liner. Cant be paying 2nd liners 8mil. Fucking ran elias lindholm hanifan and tanev out of town. Thats not good. I would resign domi but let someone elae over pay for bertuzzi. Domi can be a 4.5mil guy. Bertuzzi 3mil tops. This means domi is mo4e valuable then bertuzzi.... Lastly kampf jankrook and reaves. This is about 5mil. You have robertson maccann and now cowan. Ultilze your youth every stanley cup winn9ng team has at least 1 rookie/prospect... not like yezermen. This year had alot of diasapoiments
I still challenge everyone to consider the possibility of Leafs being left on the outside looking in next season to even make the playoffs.. take a 100 point core 4 guy out and replace with a top drawer goaltender and at least one or 2 defencemen who are first pair or second pair starters which they badly need and lets see what happens to th goalscoring prowess without the setup men.. waiting on draft picks will take way too long for the fan base... free agency is always a risk...
Berube sucks! Only won cause of goaltender who stood on his head, had the Conn Smythe winner and much bigger and talented defenceman that Toronto want have for years! They were never the same again while sitting in the easier conference. And all their stars ran for the door. We lost cause we couldn't score. Something Berube knows nothing about. Anyone who thinks he has the credentials needs their head examined. So great that only coach to win St. Louis a cup and they didn't stop him
They need a no nonsense, Torts kind of guy.
I think an understated thing about Berube as well that's probably irresistable to MLSE is having an indigenious coach of such a historic Canadian franchise (might help reverse the curse lol).
What the fuck does that have to do with it? Is he a coach that will take them over the hump, that's all that matters. Give me a break ffs...
Grubauer for goalie. Get better D, not just cross trade D , no better, judt different, they need to be bigger, faster, strong and tougher and smarter ! Get rid of Mathwees, a 7.62 cal. DUD. Ok in regular season, but always dissapears in the playoffs , always ! The Flames have some good forwards who can put the puck in the net. Try them ! Tradeing those 2 can immensly help the Leafs. Now, lets talk D ! Where can they can good D ? Rilley should stay ! Liligren should stay ! Domi should stay. Marner ssould stay, Bertuzzi should stay. BOBBY M should stay. I dont see much on the D that should stay ! Good D is hard to find ! Dumba is 1 Help me out guys, who can help the Leafs on D, that is big , strong, fast and tough, and smart. Mike.
No, he only won a cup because his goalie stood on his head to win the cup
How about you get rid of Shanahan?
somebody ask Bieksa please...
Dale Hunter
💜💜The Leafs NEEEED BERUBE!!!💜💜
Put a golden retriever behind the bench, same result
Acting like he was a great coach because of regular season record is goofy. The Leafs roster had all the talent in the world on it when he took over. They were supposed to win a ton of games. He never exceeded expectations once in the regular season. He never met expectations once in playoffs. Any junior A coach could have a good regular season record with this roster. Team was already a lock for playoffs every season when he took over. Dubas wasnt building a playoff roster either, it was purpose built for exactly what it did.
Binnington, Pietrangelo, Parayko won the Cup, I wouldn't hire a guy based on one cup run.
Keefe did what he could with the players he had. You can't sit a $10 million dollar year player, no matter how bad they play when it counts.😅
Why do we want the guy from Carolina? He doesn’t do much in playoffs
The only thing we have to remember is that the Leafs lost the series for just one overtime goal. The way people talk about this seems that they have lost the series 4 to zero
Sheldon Keefe was not the problem.. yeah ok maybe he was a little to soft on the guys..... JOEL QUENVILLE is a excellent replacement for the leafs...100 Percent JOEL QUENVILLE.
Why would anyone want to work for Toronto? So many coaches have their lives ruined for going to Toronto. They get treated so poorly there.
Hire Lindy Ruff
He's Buffalo's coach, just got hired, again...lol. Good coach.
The Leafs are not built for the playoffs. Its a Dubas problem. 50% of the cap goes to the panty four. Playing in tight defensive areas scares the core and causes them to disappear.
The coach from 1967.
I hear Don Granato is available (& he will be cheap). 😉👍
I think the Leafs core would have the vapors if Berube showed up and lit into them for being soft. He's a better fit in NJ.
NJ fan calling the leafs soft. Buddy, NJ is the softest team in the league
Is Mike Babcock available?
Ya buffoon. Did you not remember Columbus hired him and fired him before he ever coached 1 game. Great work braniac
They were probably being sarcastic….
If you want to win a cup, you find a way to get Joel Quenneville. End of story.
Keefe didn't develop the roster. They haven't had a number one goaltender or defenceman since he's been here. Rod Brindamore wouldn't have had any more success under the same circumstances. Compare the Rangers, Stars and Colorado. You'll all be saying the same thing as soon as the Oilers are eliminated.
I will not pay to go to another Leafs game until BRENDAN SHANAHAN IS FIRED!!! FIRE SHANNY 🔥
Todd Mac.
Berube’s Stanley Cup pedigree makes him the leading candidate.
Mark Hunter run the show & Dale Hunter coach them up
LMAO Laffsnet has something to analyze to the enth degree, Laffsnet is such a joke
CRAAIG BEERUUBEE! HOOOLY MAACKINAAW! 🤡
Also fire Brendan and brad
Man leafs nation needs to stop crying about losing. The red Sox and cubs took a long time to win a championship and you never heard them crying about it. Grow up leafs Nation and quit crying.
Sound like Nylander
Derek Laxdal. OHL Coach of the Year 2024 - Led rebuilding Oshawa Generals to OHL Championship, Led Texas Star to Calder cup finals, former Assistant Coach Dallas Star, ECHL Coach of the year, winning a Memorial Cup title coaching Edmonton Oil Kings.
They shouldn’t go with another inexperienced NHL coach
Yes, he would be a good candidate but the Leafs are looking for an experienced NHL coach who has playoff experience.
I’ll bet that Keefe is over the moon right now because he’s not the coach of the leafs, not even about the contract they still have to pay him. But because the organization is really going nowhere, all talk no action Shanahan
Just as Hayes said!… “pay Brind Amour double what Carolina offers”… That is the ONLY Coach I would be after!…
You can hire the best driver in the world, but if you have a Lada you aint getting there any faster.
With this current line up no coach will get the job done . OVERRATED players .. Heartless and just uncoachable
Marner - Ullmark trade?
They're not trading Marner to Boston
@@alexleblanc5926 I know but its stupid, win-win trade! Boston needs some more offensive players and the leafs need a solid goalie.
Saros
Sutter!!!
If Tavares waives... nobody is taking that contract so expect him to remain a leaf.
Move Sore Tummy Mathews and Marner will ask to leave as well. Problem solved
📊Rumor in Finland: Jukka Jalonen🍁🏒👔
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Brindamour isnt any different than keefe. Quenville and berube are better.
Quenneville or Brind'Amour. Everything else is a wasted opportunity.
Todd macleanan won a cup and cosched exteemely similar teams Berube doesn't fit the style.
Too much messing around with lines
Not him , rod is good