Everything WRONG With The Guns In Starfield

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Bethesda has a track record for making absolutely horrendous gun designs in their videogames, especially with the guns from Fallout 4. With their newest release, Starfield, they've introduced even more atrocities for us to examine. At the same time, there's some genuinely good fantasy firearm designs, but even then, none of them are perfect. For this video, I'll be comparing these guns to their real life inspirations and then rank them based on their overall design. You guys may be familiar with Johnathan Ferguson from the Expert Reacts series who briefly covered these guns, but for this video, I'll be going much deeper and really focus in on their functionality and art direction.
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0:00 Intro
1:11 1911
3:45 XM-2311
4:06 AK
5:27 VSS Vintorez
6:40 Mutated Pump Shotgun
9:19 IMMERSION
10:29 Maelstrom
13:15 Kraken
14:40 Caseless Ammo??
15:58 Eon
17:31 Ueagle
19:48 Sidestar
21:37 Regulator
23:19 Rattler
24:58 Coachman
26:33 Lawgiver
28:22 [REDACTED]
31:14 Razorback
32:21 Space P90
33:14 Beowulf
36:11 Hard Target
37:27 Drum Beat
39:06 Kodama
40:21 Shotty
41:55 Pacifier
43:29 Breach
45:02 AA-99
45:55 Microgun
48:38 Review

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    @ItsYaBoyBrandyBoy@ItsYaBoyBrandyBoy7 ай бұрын
    • BrandyBoy, Bethesda had higher aspirations and the Quik Kit Bash Rifle is what we got instead.

      @OleDirtyMacSanchez@OleDirtyMacSanchez7 ай бұрын
    • Bethesda ran out of time. Assault Rifle, the SMG, and the way the Combat Rifle and Combat Shotgun are what we're left with as a result of running out of time. Had they started working on what it was when Fallout 4 was first starting to be made and not toward the end, we would've gotten way more than what we got if they had been working on their idea and plans from the beginning instead of toward the end.

      @OleDirtyMacSanchez@OleDirtyMacSanchez7 ай бұрын
    • Bethesda's original intention for the Combat Rifle was to have it be an interchangeable system. Convert into a Marksman Configuration, a Battle Rifle Configuration, a Shotgun Configuration, a SMG Configuration. There are unused Weapon assets in Fallout 4's files for the Combat Rifle for a Pistol Grip, Thumbhole Pistol Grip type Skeleton Stock, Long Heavy Barrel, a certain very distinct Muzzle Break, and different sizes of Magazine for different Calibers. The original source of the assets for the Combat Rifle were from the DKS-550, which was the Sniper Rifle in Fallout 3 and New Vegas.

      @OleDirtyMacSanchez@OleDirtyMacSanchez7 ай бұрын
    • Hell the way the SMG (Thompson) was going to be used and setup originally was differently planned. It was originally supposed to be found mostly on the Gangster NPCs in Fallout 4. There were supposed to be more quests involving the Gangsters, they were also supposed to be a miner faction. Plans change, and we get the short end of the stick.

      @OleDirtyMacSanchez@OleDirtyMacSanchez7 ай бұрын
    • The batteries on the weapon are for igniting the propellant. Most of the big blocks on those guns that are useless are batteries for igniting the propellant, similar to that of the Metal Storm.

      @ghost4144@ghost41447 ай бұрын
  • 18:53 Bethesda: This is a round bullet. Can you guess which hole that goes in? Players: The circle hole? Bethesda: That's right. It goes in the square hole.

    @someguy2819@someguy28196 ай бұрын
    • The best reference

      @draketurtle4169@draketurtle41696 ай бұрын
    • I could hear that in my head

      @Charlie-dx6bv@Charlie-dx6bv6 ай бұрын
    • @@Charlie-dx6bv including the screaming protests

      @Albtraum_TDDC@Albtraum_TDDC6 ай бұрын
    • I was thinking the same thing the entire time

      @vitriolicAmaranth@vitriolicAmaranth6 ай бұрын
    • Todd Howard has done it again folks!!

      @halvorson566@halvorson5666 ай бұрын
  • I just realized that some of the barrel holes are square because the designer thought the caseless ammo fires the whole bullet

    @CrypticCode97@CrypticCode976 ай бұрын
    • Tf is goin on at Bethesda man

      @Ivor8@Ivor86 ай бұрын
    • @@Ivor8 diversity and inclusion, that's what's going on

      @Chretze@Chretze6 ай бұрын
    • @@Chretze that clearly isn't the issue as the decline started way before inclusion was profitable, and by saying it is you give Bethesda dick riders ammunition to write off all criticism of the company and its products as anti-woke rhetoric. If you want something better you need to be organized with your criticisms instead of screaming into that anti-woke echo chamber that the marketing department conveniently built for you. Don't fall into that trap.

      @Ivor8@Ivor86 ай бұрын
    • ...caseless ammo does fire the whole bullet because that's literally what comes out of the barrel. I'm guessing you meant the whole cartridge?

      @DTex.45ACP@DTex.45ACP6 ай бұрын
    • @@Ivor8 idk mate, these games aren't nearly important enough for me to warrant any further investment of my energy into crafting more fitting arguments about their shortcomings. They do commit to diversity and inclusion and all the other woke nonsense and pointing that out is exactly the level of quality response these muppets deserve. There is exactly nothing wrong with anti-woke rhetoric so if blue touchy blue haired queers complain about it then let them who cares, I won't even pretend as if their opinions matter to me

      @Chretze@Chretze6 ай бұрын
  • They asked if I had a degree in theoretical gun design. I said I have a theoretical degree in gun design, they said welcome aboard.

    @windowsxp9120@windowsxp912014 күн бұрын
    • Hi my names Todd Howard, welcome aboard to starfield development

      @Pestondemand@Pestondemand4 күн бұрын
  • Clearly the designers for Bethesda’s weapons are 40k orks. This comment clearly didn’t go in the direction I intended.

    @stubbornspaceman7201@stubbornspaceman7201Ай бұрын
    • The guns work off of nothing but hopes and dreams, like how the 1911’s hammer doesn’t actually move

      @Echoe-14@Echoe-14Ай бұрын
    • ork guns make more sense

      @gobi7959@gobi7959Ай бұрын
    • @@gobi7959 ……………………..shit you’re right.

      @stubbornspaceman7201@stubbornspaceman7201Ай бұрын
    • ​@@gobi7959Guns that are only operated by force users vs. magically made weapons, honestly I side with the orks weapons.

      @WildmanTrading@WildmanTrading18 күн бұрын
    • Orks dakkas at least looks cool and paint in sick colors.

      @user-nc1db7pf9u@user-nc1db7pf9u17 күн бұрын
  • You missed 1 thing about the AK: The selector is set to semi-auto yet it fires in full-auto.

    @generallee1863@generallee18637 ай бұрын
    • That's it. I demand a refund

      @ItsYaBoyBrandyBoy@ItsYaBoyBrandyBoy7 ай бұрын
    • @@ItsYaBoyBrandyBoy Glad I didn't buy this dumpster fire

      @generallee1863@generallee18637 ай бұрын
    • those weapons on semi auto are a bethesda culture now bro

      @RafPlaysAnythin@RafPlaysAnythin7 ай бұрын
    • ​@@generallee1863This game feels Ai generated, i swear these Pea-Brains know nothing about firearms and still decided to make a FPS.

      @spider-man4460@spider-man44607 ай бұрын
    • @@spider-man4460 I think Butt-thesda has the worst weapon modeling team of any AAA company on the planet.

      @generallee1863@generallee18637 ай бұрын
  • The 1911 is literally missing the pins that hold the whole thing together. Firing it once should make it immediately turn into a game of 1911 Parts Pickup.

    @vanargrand3199@vanargrand31996 ай бұрын
    • honestly that sounds like a great idea for a joke mod, super op gun that fires 1 round then all of its parts scatter across the map

      @lookstothetroon@lookstothetroon6 ай бұрын
    • There's a game for that, Disassembly.

      @silverseth7@silverseth76 ай бұрын
    • @@lookstothetroon "scatter across the map" As in the 1911 parts all float up to the sky and boost off in different directions like the dragon balls?

      @BreakdancePeach@BreakdancePeach6 ай бұрын
    • @@BreakdancePeach I mean I was more on about just the physics engine bugging out and causing them to launch into the sky, but that works too

      @lookstothetroon@lookstothetroon6 ай бұрын
    • @@lookstothetroon After collecting all 7 parts, the great dragon Godd Howard comes down to grant a wish. You wish for better guns from Bethesda. Unfortunately, Todd's model is too big and starts colliding with the terrain geometry before falling out of bounds. You never get your wish.

      @BreakdancePeach@BreakdancePeach6 ай бұрын
  • This weapon design makes me think that it wasn’t just the landscapes that were procedurally generated

    @davidponder1654@davidponder16543 ай бұрын
    • Probably, the amount of useless tubes and junk in the guns are unnatural.

      @Vert_GreenHeart@Vert_GreenHeart3 ай бұрын
    • Even Borderlands gets the guns both looking and functioning right!

      @shcdemolisher@shcdemolisherАй бұрын
    • Even no man's sky multi tools look more functional than these guns

      @emojothejojo@emojothejojo23 күн бұрын
    • @@emojothejojo hit the nail on the head. Bethesda needs to die out and sell their big IPs off. Their biggest fans are because of fallout and elder scrolls but theyve been ignoring us for 10 years almost for fallout and 13 years for elder scrolls.

      @davidponder1654@davidponder165423 күн бұрын
    • They had ai generate a gun model then they just went and made certain parts slide around and rotate after the fact.

      @1riqoispliskin@1riqoispliskin8 күн бұрын
  • Calling a VSS a hunting rifle is like calling a landmine a beartrap. It's absurd.

    @leonevermore4819@leonevermore4819Ай бұрын
    • It's for hunting Tyrannids.

      @777Looper@777Looper3 күн бұрын
  • My favorite thing about the caseless guns is the cases they eject.

    @thebeersy3294@thebeersy32945 ай бұрын
    • Yeah. Why call the rounds caseless and then eject a massive case?

      @jarowan@jarowan5 ай бұрын
    • Beth is so tardy

      @TheHumanRanger@TheHumanRanger5 ай бұрын
    • @jarowan Science.

      @sarawilson3423@sarawilson34234 ай бұрын
    • They just eject the round like wtf

      @Cracker_Smacker@Cracker_Smacker4 ай бұрын
    • They also have the bullets still attached and are round, not squarish like the barrels lol@@Cracker_Smacker

      @TheHumanRanger@TheHumanRanger4 ай бұрын
  • I find it wild that Bethesda can get weirdly specific details down like telescoped and caseless ammo but fails to animate the breach of a pump action

    @conorzurawski8657@conorzurawski86576 ай бұрын
    • The artists are working with reference images of real weapons and weapon parts but don't understand how they are put together or function. Even if they did have somewhat of an understanding of guns, they had the job of designing ones which look quite different from the guns they would be familliar with. Most likely at a pace which would be challanging even for someone with extensive engineering experience. So they did what they could to hopefully make the guns look right enough to get a pass from the average player who doesn't obsess about the details of the fictional guns in their videogame. And lets be honest, they succeeded at that.

      @NeiZaMo@NeiZaMo6 ай бұрын
    • @@NeiZaMo Even then, it's still wild. Caseless ammunition is a detail that the average player probably wouldn't notice or care about since most sci-fi games use cased ammunition anyway. It's just bizarre that they can get cool, tiny little details like that right and then mess up major details on real world guns that they, as video game gun designers, should probably know by default.

      @water1374@water13746 ай бұрын
    • @@water1374 they obviously did some research before designing the guns and it's not that hard to stumble over the concept of caseless ammunition while skimming Wikipedia for ideas on how to design a futuristic looking gun. Also I doubt Bethesda has people solely dedicated to designing guns. They probably have a bunch of "prop designers" not "video game gun designers".

      @NeiZaMo@NeiZaMo6 ай бұрын
    • the writers do a bunch of research to build the setting, hand those details to the modelling team who implement them as part of the design. Thats how you get these weirdly accurate details on otherwise complete hogwash

      @setlerking@setlerking6 ай бұрын
    • @@NeiZaMo Even another shit AAA company like ubisoft can at least get guns modeled right. It's no excuse for the lack of knowledge, they just chose not to care enough.

      @sliceofpie9584@sliceofpie95846 ай бұрын
  • My best guess is that Bethesda has a small team of 2-3 people designing the guns and another 2-3 people who animate the use of the weapons. Both teams do not communicate and they are both inexperienced with real life functionality and use.

    @angelm9513@angelm95133 ай бұрын
    • That could really be the case yeah, the whole game from mapping, voice acting, gun design, sound design feel disjointed and disconnected... Resulting in Starfield feeling soulless and uninspired. Maybe that whole no design documents argument holds some weight.

      @Vert_GreenHeart@Vert_GreenHeart3 ай бұрын
    • Honestly that sounds like the most logical reason for it. Also given how much other shit in the game is bugged out, I expect weapon animations were far down the priority list

      @hurricanemeridian8712@hurricanemeridian8712Ай бұрын
    • Metro Exodus had only 6 people total just focusing on making their scrap guns actually functional if they were to be made in real life, which makes me wonder why Bethesda can't make their guns that aren't made out of bad parts look like they work. It's also relevant for Fallout 4, though... pipe guns make me unreasonably angry.

      @pkfiremain710@pkfiremain71015 күн бұрын
    • For all these games that have such a high focus on guns, you'd think they'd have hired at least ONE person who knows how guns work

      @TheNukedNacho@TheNukedNacho8 күн бұрын
    • Having spent time working in the industry, I can assure you that you're likely far more correct than you can possibly imagine.

      @RighteousJ@RighteousJ7 күн бұрын
  • "How do we make futuristic looking guns?" "I don't know, just stick completely pointless things on it"

    @eleanorgreywolfe5142@eleanorgreywolfe51422 ай бұрын
    • To be fair that’s exactly what they did for the original Star Wars movies and it worked great

      @magmapixel8627@magmapixel86274 күн бұрын
    • @@magmapixel8627 except those were real props that looked good

      @MrTavrosNitram@MrTavrosNitram3 күн бұрын
    • "How do we make futuristic looking guns?" "Put 6 laser sights on the barrel" "Oh cool are they functional?" "No make them useless until the player crafts 1, making only 5 of them useless"

      @slumpywumpy4166@slumpywumpy4166Күн бұрын
  • I found a sleeping bag out on the surface of Venus in this game. That's all you need to know.

    @NFS0038@NFS00384 ай бұрын
    • What, you leave your sleeping bag at home when you travel to Venus?

      @johncastillo2194@johncastillo21943 ай бұрын
    • @@johncastillo2194I just buy a new one when I get there honestly

      @itdobeghost@itdobeghost3 ай бұрын
    • ​@johncastillo2194 Last time I slept on Venus it was way too warm for me, so I don't bother with the bag any more.

      @highadmiralbittenfield9689@highadmiralbittenfield96893 ай бұрын
    • ​@@highadmiralbittenfield9689 I usually just use a pillow and a sheet anymore. It's too hot for a full blanket.

      @JimTheCurator@JimTheCurator3 ай бұрын
    • ​@@JimTheCuratorthat's why venus has water again... it's the sweat from me using a blanket

      @SteveMC5@SteveMC53 ай бұрын
  • You missed something on both the 1911 and 2311: The hammer doesn't drop when it fires. It's permanently locked back.

    @windwalker5765@windwalker57657 ай бұрын
    • Dangit. gonna have to put it in F tier now

      @ItsYaBoyBrandyBoy@ItsYaBoyBrandyBoy7 ай бұрын
    • @@ItsYaBoyBrandyBoy also the cylinder in regulator doesn't go full circle but rotates left, then right and so on

      @dedoha8@dedoha87 ай бұрын
    • Tbh in real life visually you won't notice the hammer drops because a military second afterward the gun fires and redrops the hammer

      @jeambeam3173@jeambeam31737 ай бұрын
    • @@jeambeam3173 Yeah, but it should be part of the weapon draw animation, right? I know it's safe to carry a 1911 cocked and locked, but this is a game. Cocking the slide on drawing-as if you were carrying with the hammer down on an empty chamber-is more common in games because it looks cooler.

      @windwalker5765@windwalker57657 ай бұрын
    • Nah, that's not even the worst part about it. I can forgive that as part of the tons of random graphical quirks of the game. What's really insane to know is what happens to two metals of the same type pressed against each other in a vacuum. Look up "cold welding" when you have the chance. That gun being exposed to vacuum and not being coated in some type of supertech gun oil is going to result in all of the mechanical parts fusing together as the oxidation on the surfaces gets worn off by regular use.

      @jasonritner9662@jasonritner96626 ай бұрын
  • “Ancient race of Californians” that was fucking too funny and true😂

    @frankthatfunks2428@frankthatfunks24283 ай бұрын
    • They asked from their tribal shaman to summon a nuclear winter supposedly.

      @crylec6534@crylec6534Ай бұрын
  • It is insane Bethesda spent months, if not years developing these weapons and they didn't once google what caseless ammunition once. That's mind boggling.

    @katinthehat1420@katinthehat14202 ай бұрын
  • part of the problem with caseless ammo is that the brass cases of traditional rounds actually do act as a heat sink

    @Khorne_of_the_Hill@Khorne_of_the_Hill6 ай бұрын
    • wave it away as space magic, say something along the lines of "oh the gas holds heat really well so when the bullet is fired it ejects most of the heat too"

      @danjames8314@danjames83146 ай бұрын
    • The real problem is cookoffs are really common and hard to prevent when the powder is touching the hot chamber.

      @mjay6245@mjay62456 ай бұрын
    • And to make it more stupid, they're one of the few methods of cooling that actually do work in a vacuum

      @dinamitemaster@dinamitemaster6 ай бұрын
    • Yeah. They keep trying with caseless ammo but it just doesn't work in the conditions the military needs it to. Bad weather? Ammo ruined. The G11 was a technological marvel that could deliver a 3-round burst downrange so fast that the user would not even feel the recoil until the burst completed, but it was sunk by its own ammunition.

      @CrizzyEyes@CrizzyEyes6 ай бұрын
    • Something many of us have experienced when getting them into the sleeve.

      @oditeomnes@oditeomnes6 ай бұрын
  • Starfield: the only game where the lore of how weapons work changes depending on whether you're in first or third person

    @AWSAM335@AWSAM3354 ай бұрын
    • Wow 149 people liked that. We have waaaay more work to do around here.

      @Sakattack2023@Sakattack20232 ай бұрын
    • The whole thing reeks of burnout, crunch and devs who couldn’t be bothered anymore :( I kinda feel bad for the ones who had to suffer through this

      @Maddock_@Maddock_Ай бұрын
    • @@Maddock_ more like smart lazy people who know you and the other gaymers will just pre order your slop.

      @Sakattack2023@Sakattack2023Ай бұрын
    • @@Sakattack2023?

      @donovanjoseph737@donovanjoseph737Ай бұрын
    • @@Sakattack2023 Rent free, huh?

      @pkfiremain710@pkfiremain71015 күн бұрын
  • Bethesda definitly knows that a pistol is different from a revolver. Because when Deacon hands you tommy whisper's weapon, he calls it a "Handcannon"

    @dratmin8018@dratmin8018Ай бұрын
  • Can we talk about the sheer, ultra-luger grip angle of EVERY FUTURISTIC PISTOL?

    @kaibowman4803@kaibowman480322 күн бұрын
  • Another thing about the Old Earth Shotgun: the pump partially blocks the ejection port when pumping it back, so the gun wouldn't be able to eject or would do so very inconsistently.

    @sheevpalps66@sheevpalps667 ай бұрын
    • the pump is way to close to the back its why all shotguns have pumps up front coz they use a slide to slide the chamber back but why not use the jackhammer shotgun looks a lot cooler and futuristic looking plus its a drum shotgun and semi auto

      @locki9969@locki99697 ай бұрын
    • @locki9969 Well, I think one 1 of those was ever made IRL, so realistically, it makes little sense. Was cool in BF3 though.

      @sheevpalps66@sheevpalps667 ай бұрын
    • @@locki9969 ah yes the totally working and reliable weapon that was never produced because it was so stupid. Honestly, I’d do a gussied up AA12 instead, still looks a bit sci-fi and fits the shotgun role and has a high fire rate, though to show it was old gun, you’d probably want a pump, lever action, or double/single barrel.

      @whyiwakeup6460@whyiwakeup64606 ай бұрын
    • Also if you put a short barrel mod on it the tube will become shorter but the capacity doesn't change... The grenade launcher is a more faithful model of a shotgun than the shotgun is 😀

      @ChampionsGearhead@ChampionsGearhead6 ай бұрын
    • i used to own a mossberg 500 with that style of pump handle, it looks like they modeled the gun off of a shotgun that had the pump handle pulled back, later realized its way too far back to make a good animation with, jerryrigged this stupid pump-forward animation like its a Neostead, and called it a day because they couldnt give a shit about how it worked because this is bethesda we're talking about

      @gundamned4879@gundamned48796 ай бұрын
  • for the AK, I guarantee they added the polymer handguard to the gun because they didn't want to make a custom animation where the character's grip adjusts to the width of every hanguard for every gun and as a result the charactar model would be "ghost holding" the normal AK handguard pretty badly. They added a polymer hanguard to it to "fill out" the gap and used the tape as a hand-wave explanation.

    @mrSaber79@mrSaber796 ай бұрын
    • Dude I think you're exactly right. Same Animations since fallout 4 almost 8 years ago

      @LordSinclair420@LordSinclair4206 ай бұрын
    • Yep complete laziness.

      @asuspiciouswatamelonthatdi9236@asuspiciouswatamelonthatdi92366 ай бұрын
    • And that also perfectly lines up with them being very lazy.

      @BucketBucket275@BucketBucket2756 ай бұрын
    • I'd agree with that, with a potential in-game reason for the taped-on handguard is that it's there to accomodate users who are wearing space suits (with big chonky gloves)

      @xveers@xveers6 ай бұрын
    • holy shit i think you're onto something

      @ItsYaBoyBrandyBoy@ItsYaBoyBrandyBoy6 ай бұрын
  • 27:43 quality control is like an oxymoron when you talk about Bethesda

    @N5O1@N5O12 ай бұрын
  • The collectible revolver line must be a reference to fallout 4, when Jack Cabot gives you the artifact gun, and calls it a laser rifle that uses standard fusion cells, when it is, in fact, a gamma gun that uses gamma rounds.

    @nicomace3414@nicomace341413 күн бұрын
    • "no no, you misunderstand. we didn't accidentally fuck up. we fucked up on PURPOSE as a CALLBACK to a time when we accidentally fucked up."

      @VHSo_o@VHSo_o6 сағат бұрын
  • I think the extra hole on the front of the U-Eagle is an integrated Zip22. It's jammed, like every Zip22, explaining why it's non-functional.

    @Earthstar_Review@Earthstar_Review6 ай бұрын
    • the "shotty" also looks like a modified zip22 lmao

      @bodhidaruma2824@bodhidaruma28246 ай бұрын
    • My introduction to the zip22 was through cruelty squad

      @lindinle@lindinle6 ай бұрын
    • It looks like they tried to cram the bolt carrier group recoil spring and rod, and gas tube of an ak into a pistol, but didn't know what the gas tube was for, so poked a hole in the end.

      @privateassman8839@privateassman88396 ай бұрын
  • The funniest thing i found about the 1911 is the fact the hammer doesnt strike, or cycle at all, it just stays put in one place. So, how it shoot? Nobody knows, thats the scary part.

    @coqzilla3811@coqzilla38116 ай бұрын
    • When you squeeze the trigger, John Moses Browning's spirit rise from the grave and scare the bullet into detonating itself

      @ABSolution2468@ABSolution24686 ай бұрын
    • Space magic

      @slayeroffurries1115@slayeroffurries11156 ай бұрын
    • It just works

      @T.E.A.L.@T.E.A.L.6 ай бұрын
    • Something something Todd Howard

      @Joosher56@Joosher566 ай бұрын
    • Highly modified 1911 that works in space

      @Maddiedoggie@Maddiedoggie6 ай бұрын
  • Even non-american children know the way the shotgun pump goes

    @youdontsay193@youdontsay1932 ай бұрын
  • Starfields guns look like the wacky nonfunctional ones i used to draw with crayon as a kid

    @SpecimenX-9000@SpecimenX-9000Ай бұрын
  • A point on the Maelstrom: Y'all are forgetting Bethesda still thinks smaller number means less damage. It's why they believe a 45 acp round is more damaging than NATO 7.62, or that the 5mm round in a minigun is less damaging than NATO 5.56.

    @Theantininja@Theantininja5 ай бұрын
    • they need to hire at least one dude that knows a tiny bit about how guns work, or at least a guy to google this shit lol

      @mcfarofinha134@mcfarofinha1345 ай бұрын
    • The 5mm round used in miniguns and the assault carbine in FNV is an intermediate round that is less powerful than 5.56. I still have no idea where the fuck the idea for that round popped out of given 5.56 is a thing in the first place.

      @kikichevy@kikichevy5 ай бұрын
    • @@kikichevy I think that it's a homage to Fallout 1/2, where developers didn't know or didn't care, and both minigun and assault rifle (named AK-112 in game, of all things) used 5mm ammo. But honestly, it is more of monkeying a stupid decision at this point. Alternatively, Bethesda could figure out at some point that minigun with real 5.56 ammo will have too much recoil to be usable on foot, so they decided to make it use another weaker ammo. Which kind of makes sense, except it doesn't because weaker ammo mean less effect and miniguns are not effective when used like this, a high caliber machinegun will be MUCH better in every aspect.

      @serker3138@serker31385 ай бұрын
    • @@serker3138 the enemy will still be spooked into going for cover if used for supressing fire. that is if they don't realize your shooting nerf and nothing.

      @sarahmellinger3335@sarahmellinger33355 ай бұрын
    • @@serker3138 there's no reason why the same round couldn't be used in both a minigun and a service rifle- in fact, the real M134 Minigun fires 7.62x51 NATO, the same round as the M14 battle rifle. The only point of contention is the weapon being marked 'assault rifle', which by strict definition should indicate it as firing an intermediate cartridge.

      @SavageGreywolf@SavageGreywolf4 ай бұрын
  • I'm not a gun person at all, but I can tell he's going easy on bethesda. It makes sense since they're a small indie development company, though.

    @oscarguzman3017@oscarguzman30174 ай бұрын
    • They're owned by Microsoft. Def not small.

      @zoratatsumaki9181@zoratatsumaki91813 ай бұрын
    • ​@@zoratatsumaki9181That's the joke, Bethesda's games are the quality of like a 2-year passion project rushed out by a team of close high school friends as their first game ever, and it's unacceptable.

      @anstupid4093@anstupid40933 ай бұрын
    • ⁠​⁠@@anstupid4093so what games are out there like starfield that have been made by high school friends? I’m genuinely curious lol

      @chrisstucker1813@chrisstucker18133 ай бұрын
    • ​@@chrisstucker1813 ah, the Bethesda Defense Force showed up.

      @highadmiralbittenfield9689@highadmiralbittenfield96893 ай бұрын
    • @@highadmiralbittenfield9689 so what games then?

      @chrisstucker1813@chrisstucker18133 ай бұрын
  • so I think the reason for the battery on a lot of the caseless weapons is that instead of a hammer striking a primer, it uses a kind of system that ignites the external propellant via an electrical output. I know it's likely making sense of a question Bethesda never asked (i.e. how do we visually convey or otherwise explain how our weapons work?), but it's the best explanation I've got. And it's at least a consistent enough feature on enough guns that I feel at least some of the designers had this idea in mind.

    @namelesscompadre4095@namelesscompadre40953 ай бұрын
    • I thought that electric battery is somehow the one feeding ammo instead of sliders.

      @Vert_GreenHeart@Vert_GreenHeart3 ай бұрын
  • As someone who's not familiar with guns and trying to learn how to do Weapon design at the moment for a personal project, this was extremely insightful!! I'd love to see you tackle other game franchises and their weapon designs!!

    @gattillynx@gattillynxАй бұрын
  • Itd be nice if Game Designers were more like Kojima, he literally took his design team to America from Japan so they can familiarize themselves with how firearms work. Thats passion and commitment to your craft plus im sure the crew had a unforgettable experience

    @JohnDoe-ps5yj@JohnDoe-ps5yj7 ай бұрын
    • Kojima himself seemed to have quite a fascination with guns, too which likely helped Case in point, that scene in MGS3 where Snake basically rambles about the specs of a 1911(?) that was *just* handed to him

      @Eli_Guy@Eli_Guy6 ай бұрын
    • ​@@Eli_Guy Big Boss was more exited about all the gun modifications than a half naked woman infront of him. He is one hell of a gun nerd lol.

      @c-love6753@c-love67536 ай бұрын
    • American companies are too busy making "diverse and non hostile work environments" to be actually spending time hiring competent staff with the HR department being run by twittards and ex tumblr users, where as Japanese does not give a fuck about how or what you think of the workplace, you get shit done or get fired + their craftsmanship spirit and the rest is history.

      @ipodtouchiscoollol@ipodtouchiscoollol6 ай бұрын
    • Taking your design team to a whole other country to study how firearms operate firsthand vs not even giving some guns a trigger is a crazy commitment difference.

      @christiancinnabars1402@christiancinnabars14026 ай бұрын
    • Hilarious since there’s probably 5 ranges within 20 minutes of Bethesda HQ

      @Sup3rSn1per@Sup3rSn1per6 ай бұрын
  • One thing you forgot about the Regulator is that the cylinder rotates clockwise for one shot and then counter clockwise for the follow-up shot. This means you are magically firing the same 2 bullets that just re-materialized in those 2 specific cylinder holes 😂

    @Merc7734@Merc77346 ай бұрын
    • Maybe it's two Maybe it's two tube mags that load every other cycle

      @zrspangle@zrspangle6 ай бұрын
    • What is this? Quake 1's nailgun?

      @Akabalthy@Akabalthy6 ай бұрын
    • The effect of them simply mirroring the 3D model of the weapon to make the second half.

      @brunnomenxa@brunnomenxa6 ай бұрын
    • Regulator is a slightly modified version of the gun from 1980s movie Bladerunner, also found in the dinosaur inside Novac in Fallout NV.

      @johnteslov5870@johnteslov58706 ай бұрын
    • @@johnteslov5870 THAT gun from FNV is awesome compared to that trash whatever bethesda is cooking

      @kraizerxthesimp46@kraizerxthesimp466 ай бұрын
  • LMAO "Nyet. Rifle is fine" Dude, that's hilarious

    @everisham3215@everisham32152 ай бұрын
  • You should make a "Everything Wrong with the Guns in Cyberpunk" video. I think it'd be interesting to see your take on non-bethesda guns, and, imo, how they manage to skirt the line of futuristic believability a lot better.

    @tsume_akuma8321@tsume_akuma8321Ай бұрын
  • Regarding the Lawgiver, I don't think the devs realized what a terrible idea it is to have your _rifle_ sight on a moving part. The accuracy would be absolutely terrible.

    @AsheramK@AsheramK7 ай бұрын
    • With massive improvements in materials, precision machining, and assembly methods perhaps the sight can be guaranteed to remain accurate.

      @adamofblastworks1517@adamofblastworks15176 ай бұрын
    • At what cost, I suppose they would simply charge more for such fine machining. Most of these abominations seem like the gun companies just wanted to charge more for their guns.@@adamofblastworks1517

      @Orinslayer@Orinslayer6 ай бұрын
    • ​@@adamofblastworks1517yea the problem is having your eye keep up

      @genericscottishchannel1603@genericscottishchannel16036 ай бұрын
    • @@adamofblastworks1517 There is no way to guarantee that anything mechanical will remain accurate. You would need ludicrously small tolerances to make this work and the smaller the tolerance is, the more likely it is to break. You see this all the time in F1, where the engines have extremely tight tolerances to achieve insane performance, but they also malfunction all the time. As soon as the mechanism gets even slightly fouled, it's fucked. To counteract this you'd need all kinds of additional systems and computer components (how else are you going to automatically correct the positioning) and all this effort is to get around a problem you created for a feature that provides absolutely no benefit.

      @sulphuric_glue4468@sulphuric_glue44686 ай бұрын
    • @@adamofblastworks1517 Overdesigning your gun with multiple moving parts to solve a small problem that was figured out the moment people started to create self loading firearms is a pretty big miss and as the other guy said, it would break easily and be unreliable.

      @Kydino@Kydino6 ай бұрын
  • I bet the character calling the 1911 a revolver is because they originally planned for you to get a revolver there but changed it to the 1911 after the voice acting was done

    @KorGarrot@KorGarrot4 ай бұрын
    • yeah, that's what i figure happened as well

      @amazingfan15@amazingfan154 ай бұрын
    • Sooo the idea that the dad miiight be an uninformed 24th century person who doesn't know his guns is out of the question?

      @masgaz9748@masgaz97484 ай бұрын
    • yes @@masgaz9748

      @oggser8050@oggser80504 ай бұрын
    • Lol, Well I hope that's what happened.

      @Wulfenburg@Wulfenburg4 ай бұрын
    • ​@@masgaz9748still pretending this is the correct answer because it is objectively better

      @fuery.@fuery.4 ай бұрын
  • The maelstrom's ammo counter amazes me because its supposed to be super futuristic but apparently a sausage-thick chord is needed to attach a motion sensor to a seven-segment display

    @DotKom01@DotKom0129 күн бұрын
  • a topic i am not personally interested in for a game i do not care about, so of COURSE i'm watching the whole thing multiple times over

    @greylien6224@greylien62242 ай бұрын
  • I imagine the devs probably googled telescoped ammo, saw it was square and decided well the barrel must be square then since the entire bullet and casing obviously comes out of the gun

    @Taldorin@Taldorin6 ай бұрын
    • Tbh I like the vibes of the blocky barrel.

      @ricecooker7037@ricecooker70376 ай бұрын
    • fr how hard is it to find a gun enthusiast that will help them design the guns? There's a ton of people who would do it FOR FREE, just because they love seeing guns in games be accurate. But even if they were paid a regular consulting salary, that's hardly gonna break the bank.

      @Nerobyrne@Nerobyrne6 ай бұрын
    • @@Nerobyrne Because gun enthusiasts are, like, fascist... or something. We all know the number one identifier of a fascist is their support of being able to defend oneself against the state, obviously. They're racist too, because why not. I jest, but i honestly wouldn't be surprised if this really is their logic.

      @schnek8927@schnek89276 ай бұрын
    • seems legit

      @thePavuk@thePavuk6 ай бұрын
    • @@Nerobyrne They're content to wait for said gun enthusiasts to make mods that correct the guns

      @elliotnemeth@elliotnemeth6 ай бұрын
  • One thing that bothered me immensely is that on both the 1911 and the XM-2311, the hammer doesn't strike anything, it just stays cocked back.

    @angelicbeast7793@angelicbeast77935 ай бұрын
    • I can accept that one, on many game engines it can look really buggy to try to have the hammer move at its real speed, and the odds that someone will pause on the right frame to see it move are slim.

      @TheChaosCorvid@TheChaosCorvid5 ай бұрын
    • Also why does the frame under the barrel slide back with the slide?

      @lifes2short4aname@lifes2short4aname5 ай бұрын
    • @@lifes2short4aname That part is accurate. 1911 slides have a bit at the front that does go around the barrel. When you take one apart, you remove the pin in the side of the weapon, and that allows the slide to move forward, and off of the gun.

      @FarlerAlarm@FarlerAlarm5 ай бұрын
    • @@FarlerAlarm oh right, haha I forgot. I think I was remembering back to playing with some kind of replica that the slide didn't go around the barrel

      @lifes2short4aname@lifes2short4aname5 ай бұрын
    • @@lifes2short4aname It happens! It's not something most people would even think about. The Beretta M9 has something similar looking, and it doesn't move with the rest of the slide. EDIT: I was actually wrong about the Beretta. It's just like the 1911. 😂

      @FarlerAlarm@FarlerAlarm5 ай бұрын
  • Magazine Fed Revolver is an interesting idea if you can somehow stock one magazine while the cylinder is also full. You can reload mags one at a time when not under stress, and double dump the full load of ammo when you run into something serious.

    @TheTolnoc@TheTolnoc5 күн бұрын
  • There's also a further issue you forgot to brought up about caseless ammo overheat, in relation with Starfield's setting. With normal ammo, ejected casings also carry away the heat of cartridge detonation inside the chamber, preventing the gun from overheating (they're essentially disposable heatsink). With caseless, the heat still retained inside the gun since there's no ejecting casings to carry heat away. However, in Starfield, since the game takes place in space setting, this overheating problem gets significantly even worse, since you could end up in situation where you don't always have an ambient atmosphere as a heat medium to cool the gun (especially in vacuum) or the planets' atmospheric condition have different heat conductivity (realistically, the gun would overheat faster the closer the planet is to the sun and slower the farther it is). No matter how much the cartridge technology improves in Starfield, that's still a detonation happening inside the gun and still generates heat. I don't think caseless ammo's advantage is worth the disadvantage, especially on space setting. People tend to put it in video games because it sounds cool instead of being actually fit or sensible to put in

    @arsmariastarlight3567@arsmariastarlight35672 ай бұрын
    • for a company to spend so much time on it, they really did so little on the overall game. A quick google search can easily solve this issue, how is Bethesda operating still?

      @captainflowers748@captainflowers7486 күн бұрын
  • The most ludicrous part about the microgun is that it literally has a damn *_pistol_* as the trigger. It literally looks like the entire microgun *_is an accessory to the pistol!_*

    @garrysucks4190@garrysucks41903 ай бұрын
    • When you fully upgrade the starter weapon

      @tdpuuhailee8222@tdpuuhailee82223 ай бұрын
    • @@tdpuuhailee8222LMAO

      @dixen9116@dixen91162 ай бұрын
    • Oh god you can even see it in the hud sillouhette.

      @TTSP907@TTSP907Ай бұрын
    • "NOOOOO!!! MY FICTIONAL GAME HAS FICTIONAL WEAPONS SINCE THE GAME IS A PIECE OF FICTION"

      @ripadblock@ripadblock28 күн бұрын
    • @@ripadblock i dont want my fiction to be realistic, i want my fiction to be believable.

      @MrMoron-qn5rx@MrMoron-qn5rx28 күн бұрын
  • Another oddity with the old earth hunting and assualt rifle is that when the player removes the magizine they don't even bother trying to use the mag release and just yank the magazine out, which would be impossible with the real world counterpart.

    @DarkBaron123@DarkBaron1237 ай бұрын
    • Literally unplayable

      @ItsYaBoyBrandyBoy@ItsYaBoyBrandyBoy7 ай бұрын
    • Literally unplayable

      @cosmicthrillseeker@cosmicthrillseeker7 ай бұрын
    • Literally unplayable

      @sexyunion@sexyunion7 ай бұрын
    • LITERALLY UNPLAYABLE

      @dr.bright3081@dr.bright30817 ай бұрын
    • Metaphorically playable

      @johnderat2652@johnderat26527 ай бұрын
  • 13:30 "i guess this ammunition just morphs between rifle and pistol size depending on the position of Murcury and Saturn" good lord this is great

    @DMZZ_DZDM@DMZZ_DZDM7 күн бұрын
  • One thing that I thought up a little while ago thinking about scifi weapons using caseless ammunition--and I'm sure I'm not the only one to ever think of this, either--is that you might help the heat management problem a bit more if you had some kind of non-metallic casing like the combustible casings modern tank ammunition uses, but instead of combusting and releasing more heat, it is a stiff material that decomposes endothermically. That is, it "burns" and turns into a gas but absorbs heat when doing so. There are materials which exhibit such behavior in real life. Basically, instead of having a metal casing that absorbs some heat before carrying that heat away when ejected, keeping that heat from going into the weapon, you have a casing that turns into a gas which then leaves the rifle through the barrel. You get at least some of that heat sink effect while still eliminating a mechanical ejection cycle. Realistically, one might worry about potential fouling such a thing would produce, and actually developing a fitting compound for such an application would be a miracle of chemistry, but we *are* talking about the far future after all.

    @DavidEllis94@DavidEllis9414 күн бұрын
  • I'm surprised he didn't mention it, the regulator revolver cylinder seems to rotate then rotate back, it NEVER fully rotates all the way around.

    @joemama114@joemama1147 ай бұрын
    • Yeah I was gonna comment about that. Like I was like “maybe it like takes bullets in and rotates them up to the top?” But then i saw that it had 8 bullets in the cylinder and uh yeah. How does it do that.

      @blakecook9266@blakecook92666 ай бұрын
  • Fallout 4’s most egregious sin was the sheer lack of different/unique firearm types, supposedly to encourage the weapon customization system.

    @phantomkrieger2744@phantomkrieger27446 ай бұрын
    • Its worst sin was being boring as hell

      @yikes6969@yikes69696 ай бұрын
    • true@@yikes6969

      @orange8175@orange81756 ай бұрын
    • @@orange8175 Sin it's own exist

      @szoszy8916@szoszy89166 ай бұрын
    • ​@@yikes6969I mean that's probably why there's so many mods for fallout 4 because of how boring it is without them.

      @cheesebucketman1606@cheesebucketman16066 ай бұрын
    • The worst sin is that someone dare to even have thought about this. Just creating the idea on their hrad it's a sin by default

      @fl8281@fl82816 ай бұрын
  • 0:46 actually broke my head that i needed to rewatch it multiple tikes to be sure i actually watched that correctly

    @kcsniperboy7148@kcsniperboy71482 ай бұрын
  • When I looked at the regulator's cylinder I saw that when firing it turns one way and then turns the opposite way back to the previous empty area.

    @juniliarkema4040@juniliarkema40403 ай бұрын
  • My favorite part about the regulator is how the cylinder alternates between rotating clockwise and counter-clockwise. Just... such a weird detail to include in the animation.

    @reederickson3202@reederickson32026 ай бұрын
    • I came here to mention that. 3 guns later and I'm still stuck on that revolver that just cycles between 2 chambers over and over again.

      @robertgresham3489@robertgresham34896 ай бұрын
    • I just witnessed that while reading this comment. I have so many questions, all of which can be answered by space magic

      @Law01YT@Law01YT6 ай бұрын
    • So glad I'm not the only one who was bothered by that. Like, they would have to go out of their way to animate it that way, right? It's not like they just set up the animation to rotate clockwise, they had to actively set it up to go in opposite directions after every shot.

      @Khotetsu@Khotetsu6 ай бұрын
    • I think it's supposed to be like Mauser BK-27 (which is a belt-fed revolver). But that still makes no sense because the main benefit of a revolver cannon over a more simple design is that you can crank up the fire rate - you can be firing, pulling cartridge off the belt and throwing out empty cases in paralel. The only logical explanation as to why would anyone choose to make it work the way it works in game is to get past some fictional Assault Weapons Ban by abusing some fictional legal loophole, neither of which is ever brought up.

      @petrolak@petrolak6 ай бұрын
    • I want to write the IHNMAIMS AM speech about that “revolver” but I’m too lazy so I’ll just reference it. But that’s how I feel about that fucking thing. Hate, HATE, *HATE,* with every nano-angstrom of my being.

      @spiraljumper74@spiraljumper746 ай бұрын
  • The 1911 'revolver' is likely down to the gun being given originally being something else, but the gun being replaced later on, without redoing the voice acting. An oversight for sure, but a very common one in larger scale games, voice acting being done before changes are made that makes the dialogue incorrect.

    @ShigadyShigadyShwey@ShigadyShigadyShwey6 ай бұрын
    • Yeah, I saw a clip of the same thing in Red Dead 2 where the va says it’s a revolver but it’s actually a flintlock

      @rustyrodgers7566@rustyrodgers75666 ай бұрын
    • and it's sort of supposed to be a cowboy gun in context, so maybe they replaced it quite late. that would explain that missing part on the slide too, as it's probably just a purchased asset quickly thrown in. and they probably changed it because a revolver is probably quite hard to animate quickly.

      @dextrodemon@dextrodemon6 ай бұрын
    • @@dextrodemon They could have just used the animations from fallout 4/76.

      @honeybadger6275@honeybadger62756 ай бұрын
    • No. Example: “Old earth hunting rifle” aka VSS Vintorez

      @HunterAnsorge-ok9jk@HunterAnsorge-ok9jk6 ай бұрын
    • @@rustyrodgers7566 well, Collier was a revolver and a flintlock. There were also caplock pistols in reality but in game there is only one, belonging to Compson

      @EllAntares@EllAntares6 ай бұрын
  • In order for the Eon to even be viable it would need to function like a non blowback airsoft or air gun, in which the slide isnt operated at all and is typically fixed into one position. It feeds by pulling the trigger which will allow one round to be loaded into the chamber, and finishing the pull allows a hammer to hit the knocker which strikes the knocker valve causing a very short burst of gas to release from the gas reservoir or co2 canister. These guns typically have a horrendous trugger pull, but it does work 🤷‍♂️

    @CpTDbte@CpTDbte4 күн бұрын
  • 5:35 probably not why they did it, but it'd be great worldbuilding if the future people got the uses of old earth guns wrong

    @Stoneeeeemo@Stoneeeeemo2 ай бұрын
  • You missed that the regulator doesn’t actually ‘revolve’ the cylinder just wiggles left and right

    @megasquishface@megasquishface3 ай бұрын
    • He also missed the part where when reloading the regulator the character flags their left hand.

      @Killicon93@Killicon9327 күн бұрын
    • That's apparently a pretty common thing in games

      @emojothejojo@emojothejojo23 күн бұрын
    • he also missed the ABISSMAL reload time of the drumbeat and the pointless holding of the charging handle towards the end of a reload

      @theshanamaster@theshanamaster16 күн бұрын
  • The amount of guns that have a random battery somewhere makes me wonder if they're fired electronically, and that just made Bethesda think they need AA batteries.

    @patrikcath1025@patrikcath10253 ай бұрын
    • I hope we would have moved on from aa batteries by then. Im surprised we still use them in current day.

      @NeonBeeCat@NeonBeeCat2 ай бұрын
    • @@NeonBeeCatWhy?

      @U20E0@U20E0Ай бұрын
    • Disposable batteries are inefficient ​@@U20E0

      @Suninrags@SuninragsАй бұрын
    • @@U20E0 most stuff you just charge or plug into the wall for example my controller has a charging station

      @violetdesiree601@violetdesiree601Ай бұрын
    • ​@@violetdesiree601 you do realise that your controller still has a battery in it right

      @ACEnthusiast@ACEnthusiastАй бұрын
  • 14:10 the Lewis gun used a heat sink. Also, for dealing with firearm heat in space Mass Effect 2 and 3 had an eligant solution in the "thermal clip". Weapons were established in the first game as limited by an overheat mechanic, so to transition to an ammo-like shooting mechanic in the sequel, that heat was dumped into a thermal capture device which could be ejected and replaced. Gets around the lack of a fluid medium to rapidly dissipate heat.

    @ourotayuun@ourotayuun2 ай бұрын
  • Todd Howard shipped starfield expecting to get an award for it. He even showed up to The Game Awards, expecting to get an award, and genuinely upset that he left empty handed 😂

    @ZeroHourProductions407@ZeroHourProductions407Ай бұрын
  • As a former armorer, this video has scarred me in ways I never would have imagined. No game's guns has baffled me as much as what I'm hearing about Starfield. That's magic.

    @orinlee6123@orinlee61236 ай бұрын
    • "It just works"

      @RaptorTroll360@RaptorTroll3606 ай бұрын
    • 91F or 2111?

      @gregtso7505@gregtso75056 ай бұрын
    • To be fair just looking at Fallout 3 and 4 guns is pretty baffling too.

      @Tuulos@Tuulos6 ай бұрын
    • 300+ years old 1911 is somehow better than brand new high-tech space guns. It just makes sense!

      @bdleo300@bdleo3006 ай бұрын
    • There are plenty of games that do it worse than this, TF2 for example, if you're thinking "but tf2 guns aren't meant to be realistic" then u don't know how how bad they are, gameplay-wise they're great often tho

      @Cheesepuff8@Cheesepuff86 ай бұрын
  • What I'll never understand is how a team put together by a huge company to design guns can consist entirely of people less capable of that job than random internet people who would correct the mistakes for FREE just out of irritation at their existence

    @maus6967@maus69677 ай бұрын
    • The modders are the people who fix things for free, often out of annoyance

      @Hawk7886@Hawk78867 ай бұрын
    • @@Hawk7886 true they're half of who I had in mind

      @maus6967@maus69677 ай бұрын
    • Bethesda doesn't exactly hire people for their talent.

      @theeffete3396@theeffete33967 ай бұрын
    • Bethesda doesn't care. Most of these animations and designs look like they had maybe one person who had seen a gun operate on KZhead a few years before and then tried to describe it to fresh faced college students who have only seen them in the games they play and on TV. The concept art department also clearly had no communication with the animators. Everything is completely haphazard and reeks of executives and management telling people to just get it done and make it work as cheaply and rapidly as possible. Plus, they know molders are just going to fix it for them later. Why should they bother?

      @jasonritner9662@jasonritner96626 ай бұрын
    • They hire model artists who can whip up a model as quickly as possible and can make more than one kind of asset, they still need people to model every other asset in the game other than guns, so naturally most of modelers are going to be jacks of all trades (and by extension masters of none). The designs are a stylistic choice or trope to evoke the futuristic setting they're going for, it's easy to just slap a bunch of greeblies over an already recognizable gun (like a deagle or P90) than go through the process of designing a somewhat believable firearm. Too bad literally every futuristic setting uses the same tropes.

      @andreibaciu7518@andreibaciu75186 ай бұрын
  • I love how the propellant in the caseless rounds on the Razorback is not used up when firing. The caseless rounds are apparently cases

    @Lunar_F_Blues@Lunar_F_Blues18 күн бұрын
  • That looks like what people that hate guns think guns look like.

    @HeilRay@HeilRayАй бұрын
  • 8:30 "This bug is _suspiciously_ similar to the bug seen with the 'Bullet counted reload' mod from Fallout 4, so I'm not sure if Bethesda just straight up ripped off this guy's mod or..." I can confidently assure you without a shred of evidence that this is the most likely scenario. EDIT: Holy crap, thx for 1000 likes!

    @derpherbert3199@derpherbert31993 ай бұрын
    • I so desperately want someone to look into this, i'm not one to like stirring drama, but i can't say i'm not salivating at the thought of bethesda straight ripping a mod for their game

      @Brigtzen@Brigtzen3 ай бұрын
    • It just works

      @Literallyryangosling777@Literallyryangosling7772 ай бұрын
    • If the only similarity is an unexpected animation cancel then it might require a look into the source code for both Starfield and the Fallout 4 mod to confirm what happened.

      @G-Cole-01@G-Cole-012 ай бұрын
    • Is that a violation of some kind? It feels like it is illegal But I could be wrong

      @TheSilverCanine_R3D-H@TheSilverCanine_R3D-HАй бұрын
    • @TheSilverCanine_R3D Maybe, depending on what the mod was licensed under? Though I doubt it was licensed at all, and even if it was, good luck proving that they actually ripped it off

      @TimeTravelingFetus@TimeTravelingFetusАй бұрын
  • 15:40 Slight correction, the G11 actually passed the tests for full scale adoption, but was never put into production for financial and political reasons (With the collapse of the USSR Germany gained truckloads of AKs + their no.1 threat was gone and the need for new rifles diminished, and there were also concerns about NATO standardisation)

    @roguereaver634@roguereaver6346 ай бұрын
    • also the fn created the p90 which made hk shit themselfs

      @yesimrealhuman4245@yesimrealhuman42456 ай бұрын
  • 24:00 I know nothing about guns, but the fact that that entire quarter is the magazine tells me that your tube system idea may be accurate and that it just uses pressurized air to push the rounds into the firing chamber. The visible pipe on the part that is replaced is perhaps for the pressurized air to flow through, so rather than reloading just bullets, we're also reloading canisters (housed in the browner part, with the controller under the wooden part). Just going off of visual design. It is likely that nothing in-game will support this.

    @Escrypha@Escrypha2 ай бұрын
  • Stayed through the whole vid for the roasting alone, lol. Good stuff.

    @holocenenamesake5074@holocenenamesake50742 ай бұрын
  • 1:37 The thing is I think the Old Earth Pistol was actually commissioned, and modified, to be the standard sidearm for the first wave explorers, so it was designed to be used by people wearing much older and chunkier suits. Or rather designed to be used with every spacesuit ever. It would still qualify as Old Earth being manufactured on Earth before it was lost.

    @cellulanus@cellulanus6 ай бұрын
    • That's a good headcanon!

      @whocares427@whocares4276 ай бұрын
    • Okay, but why use such an old gun design? By that time, the Beretta and Glock would've been much more readily available and much easier to modify and reproduce.

      @oneblacksun@oneblacksunАй бұрын
    • @@oneblacksun Because Two World Wars.

      @cellulanus@cellulanusАй бұрын
  • The whole “collectible revolver” with the 1911 just shows how much “love” and “care” they put into the whole game,

    @Madden2000@Madden20004 ай бұрын
    • that and also how they don't have a single gun literate person on the dev team which is actually really sad.

      @oceanbytez847@oceanbytez8474 ай бұрын
    • @@oceanbytez847 It makes more sense when you realize that Bethesda is based in Maryland, a predominantly blue state (most of which are actively against firearms ownership and refuse to educate themselves on firearms on the basis of "It doesn't matter, they should all be banned from civilian ownership!"). They likely only included guns because they're obligated to by the setting... which would explain a lot about how guns function in the Fallout games too. Just like BFV's blatant revisionist view of WWII injected with modern politics makes sense when you realize the game was made by a bunch of relatively young developers (given the exodus the studio had after BF1) in Sweden - a country that historically refused to take a stand against the Nazis. Modern DICE is likely only making "war games" because that's what the original crew were passionate about and is what made the studio successful in the first place.

      @Madara8989@Madara89894 ай бұрын
    • It's just like that one random ass Australian Kahn in NV

      @2-bit567@2-bit5674 ай бұрын
    • Not every npc on a game needs to know about weapons. Your dad in the game is a teacher, maybe he just called it revolver because he doesn't know better?

      @martinatanes@martinatanes4 ай бұрын
    • @@martinatanes A prime example of how people will bend over backwards to dismiss valid criticisms or justify objective flaws in the things they like.

      @Madara8989@Madara89894 ай бұрын
  • the revolving part of the regulator doesnt spin around to each bullet with each shot, its just spinning back and forth between two positions :o

    @reu4262@reu4262Ай бұрын
  • In the first person reloading animation for the Beowulf your character's finger is somehow hiting the charging handle (you can tell if you put the video in .25 speed.) but its so fast it looks like it's automatically charging the gun.

    @Cannibalistic_Kiwi@Cannibalistic_Kiwi20 күн бұрын
  • I imagine they were originally going to use the bolt rifle from Fallout 4 as the "Old Earth Hunting Rifle" but someone found a cooler looking rifle later on

    @ScoutSilico@ScoutSilico7 ай бұрын
    • The civilian version of the riffle is marketed as hunting riffle in Russia (Hunting is the only purpose civilian have right to own a riffle in Russia). It obviously do not have some of special forces military features like subsonic armor-piercing ammo, but the common and versatile caliber 7,62х39. it's suppressor is fake, but the barrel is twice longer, and it's semi-auto. It's called КО ВСС (Carbine Hunting VSS).

      @thewhite8uard@thewhite8uard7 ай бұрын
    • @@thewhite8uard sure, but this one in game isnt a civilian variant its also not known for being a hunting rifle, which is why its such a weird choice. They could have called it "old earth special forces rifle" or something similar, rather than implying its a hunting rifle.

      @selectionn@selectionn6 ай бұрын
    • @@selectionn What makes you thinking the one in the game is not a civilian variant? If you look at fire rate comparing with the old earth assault riffle that's exactly civilian semi-automatic riffle.

      @thewhite8uard@thewhite8uard6 ай бұрын
    • @@thewhite8uard well, for one, as you yourself said, the civilian variant does not have a supressor, but in the game the weapon *is* supressed, and while not operable in game, the rifle does seem to have a fire selection switch to flip it to full-auto...

      @joelfilho2625@joelfilho26256 ай бұрын
    • @@joelfilho2625 In fact, I'm wrong about suppressor. The suppressor is not fake, but the barrel is not perforated for gas release, and subsonic ammo is obviously not allowed. Anyway, I don't believe suppressors for hunting are forbidden in USA, if the riffle was marketed in USA it could have suppressor working. A fire selector is still needed for safety switch. In fact there is usa-made clone of the riffle, THE SLAGGA Viska.

      @thewhite8uard@thewhite8uard6 ай бұрын
  • I remember how you could stuff a 50 cal into a pipe rifle in Fallout 4, but the bullet inside the gun looked like a 22 magnum, bethesda never changes

    @alanb.p1615@alanb.p16156 ай бұрын
  • As someone who knows nothing about guns that pump shotgun was HORRIFIC

    @howdoyouknow905@howdoyouknow9056 күн бұрын
  • I was looking at a design for a weapon in a game and questioned why it has all these pipes and wires doing whatever, and the answer i gave my self was "well in a game its purpose is soley cosmetic and make it further the concept of being a gun. where as in real life those bits would serve a purpose and actually do something" which made me appreciate really big chunky machines i seen at CERN an such cause every part you can see wasnt just put their so it could look like a big complex machine

    @PEPPERslim_@PEPPERslim_Ай бұрын
  • I found the funniest part being that somehow there are a lot of VSS just sitting around several centuries after the end of the world despite already being extremely rare now. Would make more sense if it was an AR15 as the old world rifle

    @clownworld4655@clownworld46555 ай бұрын
    • @@lumeronswift Not anymore. The AR-15's production numbers have overtaken the SKS. Last year Business Insider published an article showing there are 20 million AR-15 rifles in the United States and that's just the numbers in civilian hands, not counting police, paramilitary, and military. The highest estimate of SKS production is only 15 million rifles, and there are a lot more companies building AR-15s today than SKSs. Of course, both guns are still far outnumbered by the top 3 guns that were most produced: the Mosin-Nagant rifle, the Gewehr 98 rifle, and of course, the AK-47 series.

      @AICW@AICW5 ай бұрын
    • I have a basement in an abandoned building we could clean.

      @bunk95@bunk955 ай бұрын
    • B-b-but those are scwarie

      @xavierspirit1811@xavierspirit18115 ай бұрын
    • I think it is on purpose. no way they can get it that bad on a booboo

      @blandeauxfillaskii7344@blandeauxfillaskii73445 ай бұрын
    • Maybe the russians won after all, could explain some of these wierd guns.

      @user-uc4vg4rg9e@user-uc4vg4rg9e5 ай бұрын
  • Something funny about the Razorback is how it has an ammo count for a 6 bullet gun with both a visual for the cylinder and a big number just in case the user forgets how to count to six

    @FriendlyGoblinWasTaken@FriendlyGoblinWasTaken5 ай бұрын
    • Its hard sometimes 😂

      @Sp4rt4nSl4ya@Sp4rt4nSl4ya5 ай бұрын
    • They sell these things to every schlub with the credits to pay. No licensing or training necessary. Whole thing about Laredo's in game lore is "Sturdy weapons to keep people alive on hostile planets." Makes sense they'd make the displays as idiot proof as possible.

      @H3xx99@H3xx995 ай бұрын
    • ♫ I can only count to four~ ♫

      @Feraligono@Feraligono5 ай бұрын
  • 13:23 I just love that they try to say it but break in the middle

    @unweptwriter4327@unweptwriter4327Ай бұрын
  • 36:00 the magazine being loaded magically changes from having a "7" to "30" when slapped in place.

    @tHeInEvItAbLePaRtY@tHeInEvItAbLePaRtYАй бұрын
  • I like how the hammer isn't animated on the 1911. You can see it pretty clearly in the final footage you use before ranking it.

    @PhotriusPyrelus@PhotriusPyrelus7 ай бұрын
  • I think I noticed a couple more things: For the two old-world semi-auto pistols, the hammer doesn't actually move. It just stays fixed in place and the gun magically fires without any primers being struck. For the regulator, the cylinder never actually makes a full revolution; it rotates counter-clockwise once, then clockwise, over and over again, which means it would just be striking the same two cartridges without firing the other six.

    @henarthuri7238@henarthuri72384 ай бұрын
    • Yeah the regulator cylinder rotation annoyed me so much I'm really surprised he didn't say anything about it

      @Bman-wm4ib@Bman-wm4ib4 ай бұрын
    • Also the ak looks like it only has safe and semi modes

      @s4lty693@s4lty6934 ай бұрын
    • I don't think it's a revolver at all. The cylinder is just a weird magazine, and it's actually a semi automatic pistol that fires from an open bolt.

      @tykjpelk@tykjpelk3 ай бұрын
    • also noticed on the old earth hunting rifle the bolt carrier cycles but the bolt itself stays locked in place and doesn't move

      @pathleader64@pathleader643 ай бұрын
  • I have a feeling the 2nd reciprocating mass on top of the sidestar was supposed to be recoil dampening, and may actually work

    @codymunson5789@codymunson57892 ай бұрын
  • 45:42 ironically despite looking goofy, I think that scope does seem to make sense, it looks like it could work like a periscope compensating the altitude of the sight by making it closer to the barrel so the user doesn’t have lower the head that much and the gun can keep its ammo counter.

    @pochiluis0570@pochiluis05707 күн бұрын
  • I think the worst part about the Tombstone (apart from it really needing to be an SMG) is that if you replace the wood furniture with cheap-looking sheet metal or even scrap, it'd look like a reasonable budget or improvised gun

    @Inufan337@Inufan3376 ай бұрын
    • I'm trying to figure out how the Tombstone runs at all. Square caseless ammo in a pmag, and feed lips designed for brass.

      @shanehudson3995@shanehudson39956 ай бұрын
  • To be fair, the Beowulf outperforming the Grendel is literarily consistent considering how their fight goes in the poem

    @tortobergie@tortobergie5 ай бұрын
    • You mean the movie, right?

      @picardsolo2471@picardsolo24714 ай бұрын
    • ​@@picardsolo2471 the movie was based off the poem

      @Business_Skeleton@Business_Skeleton4 ай бұрын
    • @@Business_Skeleton pretty sure we only read the poem because the movie got made. 3D boobs.

      @picardsolo2471@picardsolo24714 ай бұрын
    • @@picardsolo2471most normal human interaction

      @whyiwakeup6460@whyiwakeup64604 ай бұрын
    • ​@@picardsolo2471there's a movie??!

      @rahuldubey1949@rahuldubey19494 ай бұрын
  • "The coachman is probably THE WORST incarnation of a double barrel I've ever seen in a video game." Destiny 2 : hold my vex milk...

    @troudbalos333@troudbalos3333 ай бұрын
  • My expectations were so low when i saw the "slide" on the regulator, my immediate thought was "firing pin?"

    @yalcncanturk3815@yalcncanturk381522 күн бұрын
  • You also have to love how the 1911 hammer never moves, even when the magazine is empty the slide doesn't lock and goes forward like there is another round with the hammer cocked.

    @bran1886@bran18866 ай бұрын
    • The hammer would be cocked when the mag is empty on a real 1911. The slide coming back to eject the round resets the hammer, then if the slide hold-open is damaged (or the magazine isn't pushing on it hard enough, or if the gun is fired without a magazine), the slide returns forward with no round in the chamber and the hammer cocked. When it works as intended, the slide stays back over top of the hammer....with the hammer cocked.

      @FuckGoogle502@FuckGoogle5026 ай бұрын
    • Yeah what I meant was the slide wasn't locked open and the slide went forward with the hammer still cocked like there were was another round in the chamber, it looks very odd.

      @bran1886@bran18866 ай бұрын
  • While Aperture science turrets shoot the whole bullet (technically a cartridge), Starfield's guns shoot magic and eject the cartridge away.

    @JTCF@JTCF6 ай бұрын
  • The gun in the thumnail seen like a pistol trying to scare you into thinking it a bigger gun. Tahnks for the video

    @guilhermegaspar752@guilhermegaspar75213 күн бұрын
  • I noticed that your channel is mostly about fallout game, but what do you think about Wolfensteins weapon design? With unnecessary big amount of tiny parts, pins and bolts?

    @shamilabdulmutaliev1300@shamilabdulmutaliev1300Ай бұрын
  • "I don't think the developers gave any thought about how this gun would function." That's how I felt about literally every aspect of this game.

    @DavidDavyDavidson@DavidDavyDavidson6 ай бұрын
    • Not really… many aspects of the game are well done but there are some quirks, the guns have issues tho

      @DoktrDub@DoktrDub6 ай бұрын
    • @@DoktrDubgame feels like a pre-alpha build. The talent system is blasphemous , loading screens are ok to an extent but here they are so tedious, crafting and base building is non-existent thanks to how awful the inventory system is, you can’t know which cities are where in each system …you have to basically memorize the name of the system, every “main” planet or moon has one point of interest and the rest is just copy pasted stuff. This game made me worry about future bethesda games if this what they call quality now.

      @Astrotamtv@Astrotamtv6 ай бұрын
    • yeah it is really just insane for a 2023 game, ive seen mobile games with better gun design 😂

      @Sloppyjoe96@Sloppyjoe966 ай бұрын
    • @@DoktrDub There's always someone trying to justify their mistake of a purchase. Just admit you got scammed by Todd, my dude.

      @ThatOneGuyJet@ThatOneGuyJet6 ай бұрын
    • Yes, I don't think the developers gave any thought to how the world will be in 2300. So they just put todays USA on space. Luckily for them, there's enough kids who won't notice.

      @OrangeNash@OrangeNash6 ай бұрын
  • My theory behind the “calibers” in the game is that it’s going off the generic caliber size since none of the ammo have any bore dimensions labeled. Like how .50 BMG, .50 AE, .50 Beowulf, and 500 Magnum are all .50 caliber bullets but each are different due to the guns that fire them but honestly it could totally just be space magic

    @emotherapy6256@emotherapy62567 ай бұрын
    • One idea they should've used is modular cartridges, where you can double or triple up the case to create a rifle round from two pistol rounds. It would even make for an interesting game mechanic, and it would actually work since the amunition is supposedly caseless

      @andreibaciu7518@andreibaciu75186 ай бұрын
    • @@andreibaciu7518 The ammunition isn't caseless on all weapons. Just a handful of them like the double barrel space shotty. Obviously, the old earth guns still use traditional casing cartridges, and a few of the "future" weapons also eject ammunition casings, so... also, I feel like modular cartridges aren't a particularly great idea mostly because of projectile profile. Your rifle projectile should be heavier and more "AP-shaped" than your pistol projectile. Maybe you can do it with sharing ammo between an SMG and a pistol since they can employ similar calibers/bullet profiles, but the game clearly doens't model that.

      @joelfilho2625@joelfilho26256 ай бұрын
    • They've always done this, even in the Fallout games

      @ghosterino@ghosterino6 ай бұрын
    • It's reminiscent of the .32 Revolver and the Hunting Rifle sharing ammo back in Fallout 3.

      @Kattbirb@Kattbirb6 ай бұрын
    • Shit like that is the reason i like mass effects approach They just use thermal clips rather than using a set caliber, so all guns can use any thermal clip but the gun itself is what creates the projectile and determines what it does

      @dawsonparker1685@dawsonparker16856 ай бұрын
  • The AK actually has a cut OMOD for a folding stock, and the pose for holding the rifle at idle was clearly designed with it in mind since the hand guard noticeably floats above the supporting hand.

    @crestfallenneet2167@crestfallenneet21677 күн бұрын
  • Kinda funny that now there is actually an upper kit that utilizes heat syncs for ar platforms, its called the recce lmg.

    @itsraventm@itsraventm20 күн бұрын
  • it really seems like a case of a bunch of different people working on the same thing, not talking to each other, doing it on a rush and having management constantly ordering changes with no regards to previous work

    @hendrix8602@hendrix86023 ай бұрын
    • So, triple A being triple A? 🤔

      @tformerdude6788@tformerdude6788Ай бұрын
    • Considering they apparently had no unifying design document... yeah this sounds spot on

      @user-hp7bk5so6j@user-hp7bk5so6jАй бұрын
  • There's something you missed on the regulator, instead of rotating in one direction like you would expect a revolver to it just goes back and forth between two positions. You can tell by the little groove in the side of the cylinder, which goes down on one shot then back up on the next.

    @equidistanthoneyjoy7600@equidistanthoneyjoy76006 ай бұрын
    • I was looking for this comment lmao, but yeah thats real bad fuck up

      @hunterhudson4577@hunterhudson45776 ай бұрын
    • Saw that and had to make sure someone else commented on that. That's just lazy animation design.

      @MekamiEye@MekamiEye6 ай бұрын
    • The weird thing is, most games use a loopable animation that pretends to rotate the cylinder and instantly snaps it back in a single frame, which is easier to implement and looks more realistic. It takes extra effort to make the cylinder go back and forth with each shot

      @InfraredScale@InfraredScale6 ай бұрын
    • it could just be some kind of rotating mechanism that holds a rotating bolt in place, which wouldn't do well in rugged environments but makes sense mechanically at least

      @thinix396@thinix3966 ай бұрын
    • @@InfraredScale They likely just play the same animation in reverse, because (let's be honest) they're not smart or educated enough to think of even the most basic of animation techniques.

      @schnek8927@schnek89276 ай бұрын
  • The point of mini gun spin up time isn’t just nebulous “balance” it’s to encourage the player to hold down on shooting rather than doing bursts because it adds to the character of the weapon

    @sophiaoconnell1927@sophiaoconnell192722 күн бұрын
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