McLaren ruined his career, among many others. Coulthard famously said, “If you look at the history of McLaren, whenever they have a really bad season, they drop a driver.”
@M4NA519 күн бұрын
2015-20 was their worst period in history they only dropped Vandoorne
@MalcolmTann019 күн бұрын
@@MalcolmTann0💀💀
@fqeagles2119 күн бұрын
@@MalcolmTann02019 and 2020 were decent years for McLaren compared to 2013-2018, during which they dropped Perez, Magnussen, and Vandoorne.
@M4NA519 күн бұрын
@@MalcolmTann0 between 2013 and 2017 they had 5 drivers.
@bogdanrusgp19 күн бұрын
You either survive by being fast or you are being dropped. That’s formula 1. Piranha’s club. Was called for a reason.
@joriux19 күн бұрын
Switch him for Stroll and both AM get points every race is my bet!
@JerainJezza19 күн бұрын
Logan Sargeant is much worse than Stroll
@ovs474419 күн бұрын
@@ovs4744also in a worse car
@rowan620719 күн бұрын
@@rowan6207 the difference between albon and Sargeant is way bigger than stroll and alonso on the grid. Not to mention Logan spins more than Mazepin. But hes american so people just cope 🤣
@ovs474419 күн бұрын
@@ovs4744is it? Stroll crashes literally every race lol Sargent is just slow
@oskierox18 күн бұрын
@@oskierox mate at least stroll can be up there once every 3-5 however many races it is. the american is always bad.
@sadikurrahman483318 күн бұрын
It’s funny how when they both left McLaren became better. Nando and Stoff with the 2019 - 2021 car would have been something.
@moiseulpasmoi19 күн бұрын
Honestly, if F1 allowed three-car teams, I believe Sainz, Norris and Vandoorne would've been a pretty strong lineup with those cars.
@dominicbarden443619 күн бұрын
He was a decent driver, he didn't deserve being thrown out of F1
@winkyben6919 күн бұрын
But in F1 your 1st job is to beat your teamate sadly Van Doorne could'nt but Pascal Wehrlein beat Marcus Erricson and Estaben Ocon and still got dropped even without a test driver role
@F1Guy-Guy19 күн бұрын
@@F1Guy-Guy Yess. Wehrline is even worse. Vandorne had a slower car than Alonso (McLaren admitted it) and also... It's Alonso. There are probably 2-3 drivers on the grid who would beat him in the same car.
@winkyben6918 күн бұрын
@@winkyben69 So why cannot people like u ever make up your minds whenever Alonso had the much slower or faster car than his teamate 🤣
@F1Guy-Guy18 күн бұрын
@@F1Guy-Guythat’s true
@ransomsdp16 күн бұрын
This is the one guy (plus Wehrlein) who could’ve been in F1 all these years on talent alone…
@J.M_27019 күн бұрын
Fun fact, Van Dorne is the most recent driver to win a world championship in a Mercedes-Benz, the next most recent is Nyck de Vries and then Lewis Hamilton.
@flaziola18 күн бұрын
Still the guy with the most dominant GP2/F2 title
@shmet19 күн бұрын
Facts, im still disgusted on what McLaren did to him
@bondinho611419 күн бұрын
It's like he never drove an F1 car until Aston picked him up
@AKK5I17 күн бұрын
One of the most underrated rookie And he arrived at the worst moment of McLaren😔
@mkgeebz19 күн бұрын
Underrated????
@avishek43818 күн бұрын
Whos that Hamilton 🤣
@F1Guy-Guy18 күн бұрын
@@avishek438 wasn’t he underrated by McLaren maybe?
@mkgeebz17 күн бұрын
I have been watching Formula 1 since the early-mid 80's, out of all the drivers I've seen come and go in the more modern era, Stoffel Vandoorne to me is the biggest puzzle of them all, the hype around him was incredible, his dominance and craft before F1 years incredible, the buzz around him was huge, truly puzzling how he never managed to place the pieces together, I truly wonder what his career would've been like if he left McLaren early, no hate Stoffel, but you are a true casualty of the modern talents broken along the way on this sport
@Reznor_Meeks18 күн бұрын
I honestly think he's one of the most underrated drivers before. Sad to hear McLaren dropped his career out for the team. At least his racing career is still not yet over especially when he was in Formula E and GP2 Series.
@paulsimon637819 күн бұрын
This is so unfair Stoffel Vandoorne never had a second chance in F1. 😭😭😭 Is there a team can give him even just one race weekend? 🙏🙏🙏 And let him prove he's so much better than his McLaren's period. 😞😞😞 F1 is where Stoffel should be belong.
@hourand1219 күн бұрын
I would love to see him in the place of Lance Stroll !
@domipro12319 күн бұрын
I would love to see literally anyone in place of some dude who doesn't even want to be in F1.
@ElMoShApPiNeSs18 күн бұрын
Norris was very underwhelming his first two years in McLaren, but he started showing he belonged in his 3rd season. I was kind of surprised that Zak Brown didn't give Vandoorne a 3rd year too, but then I remember that Vandoorne was a driver sought after by Ron Dennis, and Zak did a lot of firings that year within the team.
@thatsawrap523518 күн бұрын
Zak Brown figures his drivers are there to be fired. He fired James Hinchcliffe, for heaven's sake.
@justin491118 күн бұрын
Joined McLaren at the worst time possible
@NicotineRosberg19 күн бұрын
I wanna podcast with Stoff's dad. That's crazy the stories the parents of these drivers could tell, they've been trough everything !
@TheAstriius19 күн бұрын
Wish there was video when Frentzen was on the show ! would loved to see his reactions ! that genius of a driver !
@Firashelou17 күн бұрын
Stoffel’s a brilliant Champion racer! Thanks for this, F1!!
@truettbyrom438818 күн бұрын
We need one for Sergei Sirotkin now
@henryehler227018 күн бұрын
And Brendon Hartley, Marcus Ericsson
@leewat906818 күн бұрын
At least I get to see him race in WEC!
@DropkickNation19 күн бұрын
The guy who should really be in F1 is Pascal Wehrlein
@F1Guy-Guy19 күн бұрын
See my comment above. Both should never have left on talent/pace
@J.M_27019 күн бұрын
@@J.M_270 Where is your comment above?
@sentientarugula288418 күн бұрын
@@sentientarugula2884 below
@J.M_27018 күн бұрын
What a great chat with Stoffel! And for a future episode, could you do a podcast with Nigel Stepney?
@LurcherVonPapsmear18 күн бұрын
I hope stoffel comes back to f1
@DogQiano3 күн бұрын
Can you take Lance's place?
@RSRedBullRACING_1418 күн бұрын
I'm with you
@ALORACING1418 күн бұрын
Stoffel seems like a really nice guy - it's a shame how it all went down at McLaren.
@tulip1971022618 күн бұрын
McLaren were so far up themselves they were claiming to have the best chassis if not the same as Red Bull and that the only thing holding them back was the Honda engine. We know how that story went when both McLaren and Red Bull were powered by the same units and McLaren was not even close. The Driver in the development or maldevelopment had a major hand in that. Either by error or willingness so that they keep their seat and options to race in other categories like say Indy.
@crxdelsolsir17 күн бұрын
Why are there bad ads in the middle of a proper formula channel
@darrenorange298216 күн бұрын
he should change his name and do formula 2 again
@bossmen666518 күн бұрын
Peugeot Sport official driver 💪
@Calibra9519 күн бұрын
Tom a little too antsy in this one. Huge fan of Stoffel and his work
@EJames2218 күн бұрын
switch him with daddy’s cash so him and Alonso could be teammates again but in a much more competitive car
@notsBinn6416 күн бұрын
Yeah he got a raw deal
@christianh169716 күн бұрын
He should get another chance, switch him with Stroll!
@johnthunder96218 күн бұрын
Tom just get to the point - stop leading the poor guy round and round. What was wrong with McLaren and do you think you should get a second chance in lance’s seat? 😂 How are you not going to ask about Alonso then vs now?! Having listened to every other episode this secret audition / what’s not said type interview is not necessary. You go straight at the point with everyone else except for Aston which every reporter tip toes around the topic we all really want to understand. It’s like Lawrence stroll is Voldemort. Stoffle losing his seating is unfair like lance stroll being in his seat is unfair. Ask him his perspective on being a reserve driver for lance stroll, next to Alonso even though he’s more than 4 points behind Alonso 😂
@AdrienneChan-ko3kp18 күн бұрын
@Formula 1 You need a mod to remove and report sexually explicit spam content in your comment sections. It’s out of control. I am a mod for other YT channels - so I know it can be done (cleaning up comments)
@Stormy757319 күн бұрын
You really think a channel with 10 million subscribers is gonna respond to your comment delusional 🤣
@nicholas836319 күн бұрын
Ron Dennis, Max, piquet jr, or Alonso and Patrick head again please
@gregoryshtevensh686819 күн бұрын
"Toe to toe with Alonso", It was 21-0 in qualy...
@amrakunish523819 күн бұрын
With clearly not the same car
@bondinho611419 күн бұрын
Just look at his first year mate. Second year Zak Brown came in who was the manager of Lando.
@msflight940914 күн бұрын
Very important question, who was actually first?
@bbttnetworkz19 күн бұрын
Probably Verstappen
@nickmildon634819 күн бұрын
Kelly told me that Max always comes first.
@Brinta318 күн бұрын
FE world champion. that says something since FE is harder than F1 and is the new pinnacle of motorsport.
@jesperhammarlund30017 күн бұрын
Is this the guy that had his F1 career ended by Alonso?
@metro331319 күн бұрын
Kinda yes, he always called him "Estoffel"
@bbttnetworkz19 күн бұрын
You can say that. Just like how Leclerc will end Hamilton’s career next year. He’s pretty washed already though.
@M4NA519 күн бұрын
@@M4NA5Leclerc can't even beat sainz and you think he can beat hamilton 🤣
@448f119 күн бұрын
Alonso is one of the best, but McLaren ended Vandoorne's career with a horrible car and Alonso always got the better car/setup...
@JerainJezza19 күн бұрын
@@448f1 this is pretty complicated right now... Leclerc is genuinely quicker than Sainz. Why is he losing out to him then? Well, the car does absolutely not fit Leclercs driving style, and given to that he's actually been doing quite well. Sainz on the other hand does not cope well with cars that don't fit him. Remember 2022, when he was utterly losing to Lec. Apart from that, Charles doesn't seem to be too smart. When you drive for Ferrari, you need to do your own strategy, which is something he hasn't managed yet. Still, I believe he will beat Hamilton. Not because Hamilton is washed. He's already shown that he isn't. But Lewis is going to have to adapt to a completely new car, new steering wheel, new environment and so on. But we'll see
@iJohn_YT19 күн бұрын
Kirimkan integra manual 1 warna putih with your brother nanti money
@jogihutagaol636610 күн бұрын
I wish to would have max on checo was on I think max is the only one that has not been on
@audreyperrin32019 күн бұрын
Stoff's performance in other series, along with his more current F1 practice times, are enough to show that he might be fun to watch if he had another F1 opportunity. That said, I appreciate they didn't overstate the importance of his recent Formula E championship victory, since that series is... not great.
@justin491118 күн бұрын
stares in alonso* hehe boi
@galaxy_ranger1819 күн бұрын
Eure Prognosen.. Nicht meine m.. Jedes Wort von jeden ab heute wird gezählt.. Abhaken 09..
@elenaaidoni972819 күн бұрын
😁😁😁
@tizmarques119019 күн бұрын
4:00 how important is the talking aspect? how do you justify what you do for a living then?
@MrAndrewChung19 күн бұрын
I think he says a little bit a little bit too much
@Juventinos19 күн бұрын
Replace him with Stroll
@sametozkan917519 күн бұрын
First
@TmRacer21819 күн бұрын
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@Stormy757319 күн бұрын
Sorry lol
@TmRacer21818 күн бұрын
First it is Wednesday my dudes
@wetterdooche19 күн бұрын
It's actually 1am Thursday for me but ok
@drewpenn744019 күн бұрын
Just another episode of the Real Housewives of F1. Liberty Media has ruin F1.
@sillynut295819 күн бұрын
Alonso ruined his career, worst teammate
@ovs474419 күн бұрын
ur father ruinied ur career
@pisderata19 күн бұрын
@@pisderatamaybe learn some English first kid 🤣
@ovs474419 күн бұрын
Mediocre
@japyoo224819 күн бұрын
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McLaren ruined his career, among many others. Coulthard famously said, “If you look at the history of McLaren, whenever they have a really bad season, they drop a driver.”
2015-20 was their worst period in history they only dropped Vandoorne
@@MalcolmTann0💀💀
@@MalcolmTann02019 and 2020 were decent years for McLaren compared to 2013-2018, during which they dropped Perez, Magnussen, and Vandoorne.
@@MalcolmTann0 between 2013 and 2017 they had 5 drivers.
You either survive by being fast or you are being dropped. That’s formula 1. Piranha’s club. Was called for a reason.
Switch him for Stroll and both AM get points every race is my bet!
Logan Sargeant is much worse than Stroll
@@ovs4744also in a worse car
@@rowan6207 the difference between albon and Sargeant is way bigger than stroll and alonso on the grid. Not to mention Logan spins more than Mazepin. But hes american so people just cope 🤣
@@ovs4744is it? Stroll crashes literally every race lol Sargent is just slow
@@oskierox mate at least stroll can be up there once every 3-5 however many races it is. the american is always bad.
It’s funny how when they both left McLaren became better. Nando and Stoff with the 2019 - 2021 car would have been something.
Honestly, if F1 allowed three-car teams, I believe Sainz, Norris and Vandoorne would've been a pretty strong lineup with those cars.
He was a decent driver, he didn't deserve being thrown out of F1
But in F1 your 1st job is to beat your teamate sadly Van Doorne could'nt but Pascal Wehrlein beat Marcus Erricson and Estaben Ocon and still got dropped even without a test driver role
@@F1Guy-Guy Yess. Wehrline is even worse. Vandorne had a slower car than Alonso (McLaren admitted it) and also... It's Alonso. There are probably 2-3 drivers on the grid who would beat him in the same car.
@@winkyben69 So why cannot people like u ever make up your minds whenever Alonso had the much slower or faster car than his teamate 🤣
@@F1Guy-Guythat’s true
This is the one guy (plus Wehrlein) who could’ve been in F1 all these years on talent alone…
Fun fact, Van Dorne is the most recent driver to win a world championship in a Mercedes-Benz, the next most recent is Nyck de Vries and then Lewis Hamilton.
Still the guy with the most dominant GP2/F2 title
Facts, im still disgusted on what McLaren did to him
It's like he never drove an F1 car until Aston picked him up
One of the most underrated rookie And he arrived at the worst moment of McLaren😔
Underrated????
Whos that Hamilton 🤣
@@avishek438 wasn’t he underrated by McLaren maybe?
I have been watching Formula 1 since the early-mid 80's, out of all the drivers I've seen come and go in the more modern era, Stoffel Vandoorne to me is the biggest puzzle of them all, the hype around him was incredible, his dominance and craft before F1 years incredible, the buzz around him was huge, truly puzzling how he never managed to place the pieces together, I truly wonder what his career would've been like if he left McLaren early, no hate Stoffel, but you are a true casualty of the modern talents broken along the way on this sport
I honestly think he's one of the most underrated drivers before. Sad to hear McLaren dropped his career out for the team. At least his racing career is still not yet over especially when he was in Formula E and GP2 Series.
This is so unfair Stoffel Vandoorne never had a second chance in F1. 😭😭😭 Is there a team can give him even just one race weekend? 🙏🙏🙏 And let him prove he's so much better than his McLaren's period. 😞😞😞 F1 is where Stoffel should be belong.
I would love to see him in the place of Lance Stroll !
I would love to see literally anyone in place of some dude who doesn't even want to be in F1.
Norris was very underwhelming his first two years in McLaren, but he started showing he belonged in his 3rd season. I was kind of surprised that Zak Brown didn't give Vandoorne a 3rd year too, but then I remember that Vandoorne was a driver sought after by Ron Dennis, and Zak did a lot of firings that year within the team.
Zak Brown figures his drivers are there to be fired. He fired James Hinchcliffe, for heaven's sake.
Joined McLaren at the worst time possible
I wanna podcast with Stoff's dad. That's crazy the stories the parents of these drivers could tell, they've been trough everything !
Wish there was video when Frentzen was on the show ! would loved to see his reactions ! that genius of a driver !
Stoffel’s a brilliant Champion racer! Thanks for this, F1!!
We need one for Sergei Sirotkin now
And Brendon Hartley, Marcus Ericsson
At least I get to see him race in WEC!
The guy who should really be in F1 is Pascal Wehrlein
See my comment above. Both should never have left on talent/pace
@@J.M_270 Where is your comment above?
@@sentientarugula2884 below
What a great chat with Stoffel! And for a future episode, could you do a podcast with Nigel Stepney?
I hope stoffel comes back to f1
Can you take Lance's place?
I'm with you
Stoffel seems like a really nice guy - it's a shame how it all went down at McLaren.
McLaren were so far up themselves they were claiming to have the best chassis if not the same as Red Bull and that the only thing holding them back was the Honda engine. We know how that story went when both McLaren and Red Bull were powered by the same units and McLaren was not even close. The Driver in the development or maldevelopment had a major hand in that. Either by error or willingness so that they keep their seat and options to race in other categories like say Indy.
Why are there bad ads in the middle of a proper formula channel
he should change his name and do formula 2 again
Peugeot Sport official driver 💪
Tom a little too antsy in this one. Huge fan of Stoffel and his work
switch him with daddy’s cash so him and Alonso could be teammates again but in a much more competitive car
Yeah he got a raw deal
He should get another chance, switch him with Stroll!
Tom just get to the point - stop leading the poor guy round and round. What was wrong with McLaren and do you think you should get a second chance in lance’s seat? 😂 How are you not going to ask about Alonso then vs now?! Having listened to every other episode this secret audition / what’s not said type interview is not necessary. You go straight at the point with everyone else except for Aston which every reporter tip toes around the topic we all really want to understand. It’s like Lawrence stroll is Voldemort. Stoffle losing his seating is unfair like lance stroll being in his seat is unfair. Ask him his perspective on being a reserve driver for lance stroll, next to Alonso even though he’s more than 4 points behind Alonso 😂
@Formula 1 You need a mod to remove and report sexually explicit spam content in your comment sections. It’s out of control. I am a mod for other YT channels - so I know it can be done (cleaning up comments)
You really think a channel with 10 million subscribers is gonna respond to your comment delusional 🤣
Ron Dennis, Max, piquet jr, or Alonso and Patrick head again please
"Toe to toe with Alonso", It was 21-0 in qualy...
With clearly not the same car
Just look at his first year mate. Second year Zak Brown came in who was the manager of Lando.
Very important question, who was actually first?
Probably Verstappen
Kelly told me that Max always comes first.
FE world champion. that says something since FE is harder than F1 and is the new pinnacle of motorsport.
Is this the guy that had his F1 career ended by Alonso?
Kinda yes, he always called him "Estoffel"
You can say that. Just like how Leclerc will end Hamilton’s career next year. He’s pretty washed already though.
@@M4NA5Leclerc can't even beat sainz and you think he can beat hamilton 🤣
Alonso is one of the best, but McLaren ended Vandoorne's career with a horrible car and Alonso always got the better car/setup...
@@448f1 this is pretty complicated right now... Leclerc is genuinely quicker than Sainz. Why is he losing out to him then? Well, the car does absolutely not fit Leclercs driving style, and given to that he's actually been doing quite well. Sainz on the other hand does not cope well with cars that don't fit him. Remember 2022, when he was utterly losing to Lec. Apart from that, Charles doesn't seem to be too smart. When you drive for Ferrari, you need to do your own strategy, which is something he hasn't managed yet. Still, I believe he will beat Hamilton. Not because Hamilton is washed. He's already shown that he isn't. But Lewis is going to have to adapt to a completely new car, new steering wheel, new environment and so on. But we'll see
Kirimkan integra manual 1 warna putih with your brother nanti money
I wish to would have max on checo was on I think max is the only one that has not been on
Stoff's performance in other series, along with his more current F1 practice times, are enough to show that he might be fun to watch if he had another F1 opportunity. That said, I appreciate they didn't overstate the importance of his recent Formula E championship victory, since that series is... not great.
stares in alonso* hehe boi
Eure Prognosen.. Nicht meine m.. Jedes Wort von jeden ab heute wird gezählt.. Abhaken 09..
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4:00 how important is the talking aspect? how do you justify what you do for a living then?
I think he says a little bit a little bit too much
Replace him with Stroll
First
YOU are 3rd 🥉 comment !! 🎉🎉🎉
Sorry lol
First it is Wednesday my dudes
It's actually 1am Thursday for me but ok
Just another episode of the Real Housewives of F1. Liberty Media has ruin F1.
Alonso ruined his career, worst teammate
ur father ruinied ur career
@@pisderatamaybe learn some English first kid 🤣
Mediocre
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