People don't seem to highlight one the most important factors of this keyboard. It's an audio interface!!!
For $2K, I've got my Schecter C-1 Platinum, Moog Grandmother, and I could even connect a mic in at line level...all plugged into the Fantom!!! That kind of connectivity is the reason why I wanted this board!
I've been able to eliminate my PreSonus ioStation24c and the MPD226, which never accommodated all my instruments anyway.
If you want to focus on making music, this is the board. Best tool for songwriters ever.
I have the 06 & a MODX 8 & could not live without either of them now
Congrats on your purchase! I have the 8 and the thing is epic.
Exactly why I sold some of my gear and got this instead. Excellent video man, thanks for spreading the word!
I use mine (06) for live performance. It’s got great sounds, light weight, easy to program… just love it
Am thinking of getting 07 for worship purposes. Long time 61 key user... Stores here dont have 07s anymore. Should i just go with 06? :(
Great perspective bro. Love mine.
Wonderfully done. Great selling points about the Fantom 08 :)
Thanks Rick!
I bought the o6 and I love it so far
Dude!!!! You just solidified my decision on getting the 08!!! Ive been back and forth between this one and the Kurzweil PC4 SE(love the piano and orchestral sounds). The fact that its a literal All-In-One workstation makes it my choice! Thanks for the video!
Glad to help. I just didn't think that the official videos did a good enough job explaining this fact!
Me too! 👍🏾
My bad... Lol, I changed up! I want the Akai key61 now! 🔥
Thank you for your review
I'm glad you expounded on this capability. I'm looking at this keyboard comparing it to the Nord. I currently have the full size Juno. But I need more synth capability and the DAW capability is very enticing.
I played a Nord in the store and thought the keybed was just awful...personally. I think if you bought a Fantom and just add your Juno to the system, you'd experience an incredibly wide open workflow. I'm using Ableton and for live arranging/looping there is just nothing like it!
You are absolutely right bro.. I also purchased the Fantom 06.. It's awesome 🥰🥰🥰
Congratulations bro
It is a beast for the price. Piano action keys and all the inputs. I connect my guitar and forget about the guitar amp and padels.. Its missing one of my favorite add ons and that is user arpeggios, but I can do that easily in ableton and maybe Roland soon send an update. I agree with everything you said it is an amazing machine for the price and also there is a huge selection of sounds and add ons from Roland cloud for a very reasonable monthly subscription.
Will be getting the Fantom 07
Parabéns cara pelo seu trabalho 👏👏👏
My fantom 08 comes tomorrow. I bought it for all the reasons you mentioned in your video.
Congratulations
Just a quick note: I would not necessarily ditch the MPC altogether. The pads on this keyboard are trigger-only and do not support velocity or after-touch, so if someone feels that's necessary and just using keys on a keyboard to enter drumming does not work for you then use the MPC for that purpose, if you happen to have one. Outside of that, it's all good. Also, someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but it I believe it also lacks audio time stretching which was a nice feature to have on the older Fantoms. Of course, you can always use your favorite DAW for that functionality nowadays, but to have it at-the-ready on the keyboard and automatically adjust your samples based on the tempo of your song was a nice feature too.
I agree man.. this thing is amazing!! Massive all in one tool for personal music production. The kicker for me, I bought it factory refurbed for $1000. Killer.
What website did you buy it on? Are there more?
Exactly bro! You get it!
Good keyboard. Very professional
Congratulations
👍 Respect man. No BS. I like it
don't pay attention to the haters. they hating because they don't own ONE yet...my buddy/Maurice, who's a Workstation expert. told me that Keyboard is TOP of the line.
I definitely enjoy working with it!
Well someone has to be unhappy because you can get these used fairly easily. For a newly released keyboard, there are quite a few used models out there for sale.
@@chrissanchez1438 Most people don't have the skills to operate workstations. They watch reviews and think it is easy, but to get the full use of a workstation keyboard you must be a musician, have some music theory knowledge, have the trained ears of a recording engineer, must be a recording engineer, know how to mix, EQ, compress, limit, master and chain and design effects, be a sound designer, and know how to multi-track and be comfortable with metronomes.....to name just a few skills...:) That is the main reason this keyboard would be returned. I repair computers for clients, and I get the same from them asking me why are these computers so complicated to use. I tell them because they are complicated computers, and you need skills to operate them to their full potential. The Fantom O's are good keyboards.
I have tons of other gear too, but I recently purchased the Fantom 06 and I couldn't agree with you more. I bought it to use with a smaller laptop based setup and the main selling point for me (in addition to all of the sounds available for it) was the 16 stereo channel USB audio interface. That beats out ALL competitors in it's price range, including the MODX, which is what I was looking at just before this keyboard was released. It came at the absolute PERFECT time!!!!
I think years into the future, Roland will be kicking themselves for making such a fully featured piece of gear for so little money 💰 😆. This is one of those things that everyone will buy though. Beginners, to techno dweebs like us 😆 🤣 😂. Thanks for watching
@@amackclassic6737 You're welcome!
Oh, is the USB audio interface really transfering on all 16 channels? Very interesting! I have the FA:07 which I really like, but when these new Fantom-0 series was announced I realised it addresses all the things I miss from the FA, i.e. more hands on controls, touchscreen for better accessibility and user experience with the sequencer. And it is in a nicer price range than the Fantoms. Soundwise it is probably more or less like what I have right now, but I will go and check out the 07 soon.
@@patsonmusic Yes, the USB streams all 16 STEREO channels as audio for a total of 32 channels of audio streaming straight to your DAW!!! How cool is that?!!! Yeah, this new Fantom is a beast. The sequencer in there is nice too and very easy to use. I find myself on it making beats on sleepless nights until sunrise (when I don't have to go to work the next day of course). In fact, I was just on it last night all the way til noon when it was raining and the power went out. That was my cue to go take a nap and get some rest. Fortunately, I saved the beat I was working on and was only listening to what I just made before the power failure. Hehe. Hmmmm. Maybe I should consider a second UPS for this keyboard in this smaller setup at some point in the future. So in a nutshell, you can literally compose an entire instrumental song (or an entire instrumental album for that matter) completely within the Fantom then track out all of the individual parts of the composition straight to a DAW via USB. This is a REMARKABLE feature that should never be taken for granted!!!!! Talk about a huge time and cost saver. No need for a big and expensive multichannel audio interface.
@@kvmoore1 Great, thanks a lot for the info! So far I've done tracks on the FA-07 and converted them induvidually to WAV, then sent them to other mudicians. Slow and time-consuming. Learning to use Ableton at the moment. I see that switching to a Fantom-07 would be hugely improve my situation for recording purposes. For live use only slightly, but still be better. I will check this keyboard out in a store for sure!
Yo so dope, I need one asap. You should do more videos on workflow.
This has much of what I loved about the Korg Kronos but with a more friendly user interface and more memory. Althought the "O" series lacks aftertouch, there are many compensating factors as you point out. Plus you get the rich Roland sounds. Although I have Kronos and Montage, I am giving serious consideration to the Fantom. It could easily replace the Kronos and it runs rings around the Montage interface especially for recording. Montage Superknob and Kronos KARMA are value added but the ability to quickly capture ideas and develop them into compositions seems more full realized in the Fantom. I would probably go for the big brother to get the bigger screen for my old eyes and the aftertouch keys. Thanks for reviewing and recommending.
Hi, thank you for this analysis! I love the Fantom, I've had it for a year now and my students are very fascinated with it also.
I have the 06 and it's the first time I was able to quickly put together a full song. I can tell roland tried to make it as intuitive and non-menu divey as possible. It's a piece cake to compose since you get 16 tracks (zones). The right side has tone categories clustered by type for easy tone selection, the left side has track faders and knobs for on the fly mixing and panning tracks. The center touch screen allows for easy recording and arrangement. 1. Pick bass, drum, pads, lead voices. 2. Noodle out verse, chorus, bridge clips for each voice. 3. Group the clips 4. Chain the clips into a full song 5. Boom, done. Do you need a daw for mixing, mastering and layering vocals ect? yes Is it limited for people who mainly sample? Yes, roland doesn't want to cannibalize their sp-404 mkii sales. Is it limited for people who mainly want to tweak knobs for synths sound sculpting? Yes, roland doesn't want to cannibalize their hardware synth sales. (However, if you are fine with menu diving there is a fair amount of sound sculpting capablities) Overall though it's a great tool for live performing and song idea sketching.
1st of all... Thanks!2nd... Thanks again!..The other reviewers sounded like used car salesmen. I got rid of my Yamaha MODX8,hated it. F8-no way, Fa08-here I come. Thanks again for getting to the point. Blessings ✌️🎹🎹
No problem Pedro, thanks for watching man!
Thanks for the advice! "Best tool for songwriters ever"
It really is!
Hi Mack, I went to the store today and tried the Fantom 07 and the FA30x. I didn't like the action (synth) on the 07 but loved the PHA-4 action on the FA30x. So I went home and found out that the Fantom 08 (your one) has the same PHA-7 action and ivory touch as the FA30x. Were I to buy a more expensive Fantom8 well I'd be getting too much piano action (but I haven't tried it). Anyway, good purchase for you. Have you connected it to Ableton yet for anything? Have you reached it polyphony ceiling at all yet?
I can't speak to the action, idk Roland boards very well admittedly, but...interesting you mentioned polyphony limiter, and yes I did! I think what I was doing at the time was likely loading the zones up with SN tones and around 12 or 13 zones I did notice some "drop outs" we'll call them. This could become an issue if you're using lots of zones for a custom performance patch bc you'd suddenly get some of your sounds chopped off mid loop. I'm gonna work closely with daw to make sure this doesn't happen live but you could also just not try to be Hans Zimmer on one take and rely on fantom to play entire symphony lol.
All digital pianos should be sold as modules and we pick the keybed controller we want Roland or another manufacturer.
Very nice keyboard. In Ottawa Canada. No place have 08.
I have an MC-101, and I dig the sound, but never quite gelled with the interface or the workflow. This, on the other hand, looks like a beast, and seems like it'd be far more intuitive to me -- especially from a programming standpoint -- in a way that the 101 hasn't been.
I'm a noob, and even I figured out how to connect everything 😆. You should buy one.
This thing can literally do it ALL
Bought a Fantom 8 and I absolutely love it! There is so much value in the Fantom series. You give up a few things with the 08 but its definitely worth the money.
Congrats.
Hi. I'm thinking of getting me this keyboard but I'm concerned about the key action. I ordered an RD 88 that I'm returning because of a couple of defective keys. One thing I didn't like was that when you play the same key very fast, the response is sluggish, as opposed to a real a acoustic piano. Since the action on the Fantom 08 is the same (PHA 4) I wonder if you could give me a little feedback if you have tried playing a single note very fast, I hope this new keyboard may have an improved action. I'd really appreciate it. Thanks
@@georger9897 I truly love the keyboard in all aspects. Yes it will play a bit slower with the weighted keys. I guess its all about the type of music you want to make but the Fantom 8 cannot be beat with its limitless features. I haven't played the 08 but it might be a better choice for faster playing.
@@newsomeassoc Oh, I apologize, I thought you'd got the Fantom 08. The names are so similar hehe. Ok, I know the Fantom is the father of them all...pretty much limitless. Thanks so much for replying and the advice 🙏 Have a great night.
@@georger9897 no problem. Same to you.
I bought my 08 because I wanted something that could do all that it could do. However, I don't even use it for the features it has (yet), because I actually bought it to practice piano and read sheet music on. I do plan to use the synth engine, but to me the most important part to me is feeling comfortable with piano keys and learning to read music. I have a Juno DS with synth action keys that I dud use to write with for a bit, but my desk kinda sucks for keyboards right now. so instead of using them as midi controllers I use them for the instruments they are. I wrote a few arrangements on my Juno DS and it's the reason I hate DAWs now. Too bad I don't like the sequencer on the fantom, at least not yet. I've been sequencing it on my MPC so far
I've been using Ableton to sequence and it's a lot of fun. I bet you could even program your MPC to trigger Ableton Scenes and that could be a lot of fun. Conversely, you could try using the on-board drum pads in the same way. I've been sequencing live and man.... does it sound it.
Já me escrevi no seu canal parabéns
I'm about to buy my 3rd strandberg this coming Friday (6, 7, and now an 8 string) then I'm gonna save up and get one of these. I've wanted a good analog keyboard for a long time. I just recently got into MPCs and I've started to realize that vsts aren't gonna cut it. I need outboard gear to do what I'm trying to do without any problems.
I think you'll also really enjoy plugging your guitars 🎸 into the keyboard as well. Like I said, for anyone involved in music production...I think this board is it!
@@amackclassic6737 I seen something about that, I'll have to look into it more but I'll definitely have one by next month if I can find one. Thanks buddy. Great video btw ✌️🎶🎸
Bro!!! I did it!!! I just got my Fantom-08 yesterday!!! I can't believe how cool this is... I'm using an MPC live to sequence my Arturia minibrute 2s, a Korg minilogue xd module, and GGD on my computer. Dude I'm in music heaven
I've got the Fantom O6 and its really amazing. Don't ditch the MPC. They go great together.
I would love to see how you connect these together mine don't seem to work very well at all...online everyone said they would work great that's why I got it but its been nothing but headache sleepless nights and long research trying to get it to integrate
@@justvibesmuziq8459 What is your major problem in connecting the two?
yea see ya round!
This guy gets it..
Just ordered my 08 , If I had the cabbage I would of gone for the big brother for the extra piano sounds but I’m grateful I will have this and weighted keys are nice I agree it feels like a bargain for what is included.
It definitely is a bargin.
Great video mate! How does the keybed feels on the 08, compared to entry level digital pianos like the FP30? My initial though was that the 0-series was not for piano since it lacks the V-piano engine, but the massive weight of big fantom kept me away from it.
I used to play a Casio keyboard when I was broke and somehow I still managed to deal with the horrible tone. It might not be a V Piano, but it sounds great to me honestly. I'm happy with the keybed... to me it feels okay. Not as good as Yamaha in terms of sound or feel but for me, Yamaha did not give me the functionality that this board does.
The full size Fantom has Roland's PHA-50 keyboard which is rather heavy and very authentic. The 0 has the PHA4 jabbed which is a little lighter and more mechanical feeling, but still excellent and better than the action on the MODX8. However, the internal piano sounds on the 0 are a little disappointing. They're usable, but not as good as the MODX. So if you're a serious pianist, you might want to use a VST like Pianoteq or Keyscape with it, instead 🐔 the internal piano sounds.
@@geoffk777 Thanks man, I totally agree with you. MODX8 has good piano sounds ( quite close to the big brother Montage) but the keybed is crappy. I also own an FA-06, which super light weight, but the piano sound on it is poor. I'm not a piano player but the supernatural piano engine to me still sounds "super-unnatural", no matter how I tweak the parameters. Not sure if the Fantom-0 got the same supernatural engine.
@@JJJB Also wondering about the keybed. I had the FA-06 for a year, loved the synth, but disliked the keybed with too light keys, and they where 1 cm shorter compared to other synth keybeds. When someone sold a FA-07 I bought it for the better, semi-weighted keybed and extra range, and sold the FA-06. The best decision in a long time.
@@patsonmusic I share your thoughts on the FA-06. I heard that the new Fantom-06 has an upgraded keybed which feels much better. Are you considering upgrading to the Fantom-0?
I’m contemplating getting rid of my Live II to get one How is it storing and loading drum samples on this?
I've been loading full 2-3min acapellas in them no problem. Absolutely love it
The O's may be the most thought-out menu synth Roland has ever made. I am DAWless, 100% hardware, this keyboard can also replace a computer in building clips, like in Ableton. Kind of the reverse of why you bought it :). I have been playing keyboards since 1967, and am considering buying this synth, but not for the piano, I have huge doubts the newer improved SuperNatural piano is worth buying. I am a professional solo acoustic pianist, there may be only one or two digital pianos worth buying out of the 1000s available. All Dpianos have the same problems, and some have many more. But you are a DAW user, you can use the O8 to play your piano into the computer then replace the 08 sound with software. And if you are playing fast, the SN 08 piano is probably fine to use as is. The sub output is a HUGE feature for those of us who have expensive hardware effects we want to use. The operating system seems almost flawless. How do you judge the internal effects?
I'm only really using the delays for fx right now, but I have since making this video completely abandoned the computer in favor of a DAWless workflow. I think the fx sound pretty good, nothing like my Outboard, but it seems okay. I'm actually gonna use the sub outputs into an iRig in the future so my live stream can really hear the power of the Fantom. I'm gonna tell you rn though, if you're really playing piano 🎹, you're gonna hate this keybed. The features are so great that I just deal with the action, but I'm making truly great original music with this thing every time I sit down. Hard to beat that.
@@amackclassic6737Thank you so much for your reply and video. I plan on buying the Fantom06, I am still playing a Yamaha P95 piano (10 years old), but my friend just bought a Yamaha DGX670 I have played it, and it is fantastic, both in action, sound and the way the piano action interacts with the sound, darn near perfect. AND the best sounding built in speakers I have ever heard, actually usable. But I will still use headphones for the full sound this piano can produce. We can get a 3-pedal unit for the DGX too and have 4 total pedal inputs. Yamaha stepped up this extremely inexpensive DGX piano beyond their P515 at twice the cost. I tried the Yamaha P515 it was horrible, the DGX-670 is twice as good as the 515 for half the cost!! Not sure what Yamaha is doing here, are they going release a much improved 515 soon???
@@amackclassic6737 Welcome to the DAWless world. Since going DAWless over 10 years ago, I have composed over 70 albums. Before with computer, none. and before that with the first digital hard disk recorder, one album.
Just to put it out there. I have a Fantom X8 and a G8 and no way im paying anither 5 grand for another full blown Fantom. This is a Beast. No BS
I got to play this back in 2019 at Knob Con and I love it. Far better keybed then Yamaha.
Did you buy the weighted or synth action keys?
I think it's a little heavier actually. I really mulled that over for a long time before buying this. Yammies feel lighter and more natural to me. In the end, this Roland product is legendary to alot of players I respected growing up. It's truly an honor to play any workstation.
@@amackclassic6737 We really are spoiled for choice when it comes to workstations these days. I love Roland because I learned piano on an upright grand with a heavy action and the Roland keys feel like home for me. Imo :)
Are those keys weighted? How'd you get that? I thought they were light action.
Yes they’re weighted.
They are weighted and feel great
Hey I really like your video. I was thinking the same thing about it. I bought it to control logic but I found out my computer is too old and will not update to except the new drivers. So I’m trying to connect it to my iPad Pro via USB cable to camera kit which is basically the USB input for USB-C. I can get MIDI control but I cannot get audio to go through. If you happen to have an iPad could you let me know if it works on yours because I’m thinking at this point after trying most of the settings there might be something faulty with the unit or I need to use a different method of USB connection. Note that this method I’m using worked with my Yamaha MODX 6 keyboard and works for recording all my usb audio gear and the Fantom 0 is the only one I cant get audio on. Thanks for the video and any insight you could provide in this matter.
Soooo..... this took me AWHILE to figure out. But, my Fantom actually shipped with Version 1.0 installed on keyboard itself. Low and behold, I figured out trial and error that I needed to update the board from Roland's website with Version 1.01 - I think I watched an official Roland video on how to do this with an external USB drive. Try that first?
Hey if that didn't work, try an iRig? I know a guy who has gear out to wazoo, but for his ig clips he uses an iRig in a very similar way to what you're describing here!
At this point I left an email message with Roland because they no longer have phone support which is freaking ridiculous. I have to wait for them to reply and then reply again and so on which could be three or four days before I get my answer instead of a small phone conversation. Anyways if I have to buy anything else to make this work I will take this thing back to the store and Roland can have it back. Everything that I have including the helix, Headrush, Other Roland products, Yamaha, Boss….. well you get the point all work plug and play. So there is no reason why it should not work with my iPad Pro being the Fantom 06 is updated to the newest version and so is my iPad. I’m just tired of buying something that somebody had to design that doesn’t work with standard configuration. I use Apples standard method and everything else does. So far it is a love-hate thing with this keyboard. Same with trying to do a sample or play anything through the input it took forever to find out how to turn it on. So you see what I’m getting at. If you use the iPad yourself you understand that Apple is usually always plug and play with the exception of OS X. Sometimes the laptops need a driver. Well if you have any luck please fill me in on how to get audio and midi to work. Thanks
@@bsbarber73 It took me about 2 weeks or so longer than I had hoped to get my system up and running and I remember the frustration well. Roland did see me through, I have to say..
Well looks like I had to order a USB B to USB C cable. The tech said it will work. So I’ll let you know.
Does Fantom 08 have polyphony issues? I saw people on KZhead saying that Fantom 06 and 07 have polyphony issues and have even demonstrated it.
I'm thinking about making a video about this issue. Here's the bottom line, if you do not load up a shit load of sounds in a patch, there are no issues. My fantom is a glorified live Looping tool in my studio so there are never any sounds running off the cpu of the Fantom itself, apart from the single zone Preset or whatever. I suppose if you wanted a 16 piece Orchestra split across all notes, maybe then you'll have an issue.
@@amackclassic6737 Does it have such issues when I, for example, play a backing track which has like 16 layers of orchestra. Because in the video I saw on KZhead, the dude played multiple layers of orchestral sounds. I need a keyboard for a symphonic metal band and am planning on having many layers, though not when playing, but rather when using backing tracks.
@@vojinljubisavljevic4036 It will probably have issues with what you need it to do. It's unfortunate, but if you've seen it demonstrated on video, then it's probably true.
I generally agree with you, but I do have a few concerns about the Fantom-0: 1. The pianos are disappointing. Roland has apparently removed string and damper resonance from the SuperNatural pianos on the Fantoms (it was an adjustable parameter on the FA series--but not the Fantoms). On the big Fantoms, the V-Panos have it, but on the Fantom-0's, all of the pianos are a little sub-par. 2. The expansion memory is limited. Even on the big Fantoms, you can run out of memory for samples, but on the 0, you only have 256 Mb for expansion packs AND user samples. That means that only two or three packs will fit at once. And they take a while to load. 3. The vintage synth model expansions (Juno 106, Jupiter 8, etc.) are free on the big Fantom, but $150 each on the 0. That's a non-trivial $600 to get all four. And you can't run the N/Zyme expansion at all. All that said, the panel layout and DAW integration is great, and the action iand sequencer is better than an MODX8. But just for the internal piano and internal sounds, I think that an MODX8 sounds a little better. It's a judgment call.
I can honestly tell you that I considered all of that and I realized there's a pretty simple solution. VST Pianos of some manufacturers are not that bad and you can load them up alongside any on-board sounds as it's very own zone. I'm using a laptop 💻 when I play gigs so the marriage between Ableton and the board is amazing. I think most people use DAWs live now. It makes sense to me that they (Roland) figured people would use VSTs with this thing, but for those who wish to just bring the keyboard and PA, I think even then you'd be okay, but I do get it, the base sounds are not great and the memory, forget it. I think it's important to note, that I have always been a Yamaha player. I played the motifs and the Fantoms and I always thought, Roland never got piano sounds right. Never, not on a single occasion did I believe a Roland, Korg, or Kurz had a better piano tone than Yamaha. I would have bought a modx if they put a drum pad on it. Shame. This is my first Roland product, but I'm not disappointed at all. It's inspiring to have such an incredible creative tool.
@@amackclassic6737 Yeah, many of the people who've gotten them say that it's an awesome MIDI controller and interface, but the onboard sounds are dsappointing. As long as you're cool with that , than it can work as the centerpiece of your stage or studio rig. But people who buy it and expect to be blown away by the onboard sounds are going to be disappointed, IMHO.
Agree 100% with your comments.
Yap 💯👍👍👍
I sold my akai force to finance a fantom 07. I see where you're coming from. Keys, and a tr rec function does it for me. Akai work flow is clunky and the synths are not great. Workstations are not in fashion, but this is an MPC killer
It's the speed at which I'm able to create that makes the Fantom invaluable to me! Thanks for watching!
Congratulations on the purchase of this fine Roland keyboard. Great choice. I think these type of instruments are going to have more and more relevance when the customer treatment by the likes of Microsoft and Apple get more and more unbearable. The resurgence of modular gear could be an indication that not everyone wants to deal with the multi-purpose platforms, and that there are advantages to the dedicated musical gear.
You're an excellent player Andrew
I will buy the big brother because i can put 2 Gb or wav files in !!! Awesome. + 2 gb on pads !!!
In your experience which one has the better action key, fantom 08 or MODx 08.
Modx 08 has better key action by far.
Is the audio resolution important for you? Is the quality of the output good enough; The problem I have with this keyboard is the 44.1khz audio output. I always record in 48khz.
I'm not very technical. I do know that you could record into a DAW and record and bounce in 48
Resolution is not as important as pre-amp quality and DAC quality, along with the original sample quality and effects. Effects seem to function better in a 24bit 48kHz or greater resolution. I don't think anyone can tell the difference between 16bit 44.1 and 48kHz though. I was told the 48kHz is for syncing video when we make MP4 video, but I don't know if this is true, haven't tested it and I don't use SMPTE when combining video and audio.
I just bought the 08 and some of my keys have this weird clicky sound. Does your 08 have the same thing?
Sometimes yeah. Can't tell if it's the keys or the plastic underneath, but yeah I hear it too.
@@amackclassic6737 Probably the plastic. thanks for the reply
Great mini review!;) Excuse me,One question man,you know the difference on the fa 08 like function beyond the sound,same keybed?sorry for my english
I played an FA 06 the other day and it felt like a toy. I go to music stores these days and realize they just don't carry Keyboards like this anymore in stores. Sad day lol
Is it weighted keys, cuz I would like it alot more if it is weighted.
Definitely fully weighted
2 grand???? where did you get that price?
I don't know anything about Synthesizers. I'm learning to play keyboard. Is it worth to buy for a beginner?
I have a Yamaha P-125 I do still have that I use to teach students how to play piano. I'm honestly not sure if it matters what you learn on anymore. If I had access to a Fantom when I was 8 years old, maybe I'd have learned much more much faster. Speculation though, the piano itself is an instrument I've studied for over 25 years on its own. If I were you, I'd buy a Fantom as a beginner. Why not ya know!
I tell you what I've Yamaha Psr 170 and I'm learning how to play with it. But I think that I'll buy the Fantom 8 when I know how to play.
@@tomibuhbut1654 If you buy something like this, it'll inspire you to learn more. Again, if you can afford it, the Fantom doesn't care what level of player you are. Just go for it!
Synthesizer is a broad term and can apply to many keyboards. IF you want a first synth to learn sound design (how to create your own sounds) then, NO, don't begin with a workstation keyboard like the Fantom 0's unless you are highly technically skilled as a musician and a recording engineer. a dedicated keyboard to synthesis full of knobs, sliders and switches is the only way you will learn to create your own sounds (patches). I think the Roland Gaia is the perfect first synth with full sized keys. Remember the easiest synth to learn on is the one that looks on the surface the most complex. The synth with no menu and tons of controls on the surface will be the most fun to learn on.
Now,ok, play with it if you want we like your vidéo
How many different Fantoms are there?
Too many 😆
Can you use this as a MIDI controller, too?
Yup.
What CPU power does it have and memory?
I have no idea actually. I've been playing it for awhile now, I haven't noticed any limitations that stopped my creative flow yet.
Can anyone tell can we change loop tempo in this keyboard
...and can we poly-rhythm on it too? .....have not heard yet...
Yes you absolutely can!!
Those pads are not for drumming, is that true?
how is the key bed ?
It's not the best I've ever played but I've gotten used to it. It's heavier, closer to a real grand, but I've been playing midi controllers for a long time so I prefer lighter keys personally.
Connect to daw and you beat all flagship synthesizers 🤘🎹
Most divides have a audio interface.
I got a new piano from best choices products with headset and microphone.
What's important to some are not for others. No right or wrongs. Whatever works for you is great! I had a F8 and hated the user interface, maybe next to some of the Kurzweil products, the most counter-intuitive gear I have ever owned. So I got rid of it.
I totally feel you man. It took me five years to decide if I wanted an analog synth, took me 3 more to finally realize I wanted a workstation to accompany it. I cycled through all kinds of stuff, mainly digital mixers and then this thing popped up. I thought... ya know if I can get the moog in there at the very least and have control of the daw, man I'd have to consider this 08... and consider I did for an additional few months 😆. In the end, I think yes, I have achieved this minimal setup that is maximizing creativity & spontaneity! It's also a very simple workflow to explain to my more advanced keyboard students. Overall, for me, maybe 10 years went into the eventual Moog / Fantom combo. It's incredible. Thanks for this great conversation Keith, can't find it at Guitar Center anymore!
Same experience for me. Got to play a Nautilus and Modx through the same sound system side by side. This is when I began to notice the deficiencies sound wise with the Fantom. It flat out sounded thinner. I always thought the Fantom sounded too much like my older Roland keyboards and I found out that Roland is notorious for recycling the same samples. I was able to confirm this a few weeks later for myself. The interface on the Fantom I did like alot. In years past this was Roland's big selling point, but both Korg and Yamaha have really closed the gap with these last two offerings. I got away from Roland with this fantom and went in a different direction. I wasn't sure I made the right call until my bandmates and people who work with our band commented on the improvement of my sound. This was something I didn't expect.
@@chrissanchez1438 Thanks for your reply!
I wish I was as happy and confident in this keyboard as you unfortunately this exact keyboard as been nothing but headache trying to get it integrated with logic and fl studio. it definately has great sound but it not user friendly at all...not the best for studio and daw user the Yamaha or the Mac 61 is better when it comes to fast pace work flow and quick easy connection and integration
I was using PreSonus at the time I made is video, but once I flipped over to Ableton every thing has been working okay. Sometimes in my production career, I've had to change workfkows, especially DAWS. Engineering, sometimes is just that. We all have to struggle to get the Fantom working just the way we want, and often it's not perfect. Don't feel like you're on your own with your trouble shooting. All of us go through it! Just keep working your problem, and it will come to you.
Kronos or Kurzweil K2700 for me.
Hello, am I the only one with this problem on Fantom 08? When I play, for example, F#5 and release the keybed, it loudly hits something that irritates me a lot! Here's an example: kzhead.info?search_query=keybed+problem+roland+fantom+08
I've not experienced that, maybe Roland would honor a manufacturing defect?
Ok spec wise you ain't replacing a true interface with decent A/D converters
Not for professionals, but for people on a budget, it by nature replaces an interface.
Brother this or Korg Pa 1000
I think the PA is not comparable. Fantom all the way.
$2k? This thing is now $4k+...
It's not. People keep saying that, but you're talking about the flagship FANTOM 8. This review is for a FANTOM 08. They're totally different models of Keyboards. Thank you and goodnight!
Amazing, do you wanna come in my channel with a video showcasing you playing. We can talk also
The pads on this keyboard is not a drum pad
Yes they are! They have multiple modes of operation, one being a sampler.
Yes the pads have multiple modes
@@amackclassic6737 Can they be used to control external gear, too?
@@paulbogan3400 Yes Paul you can! The thing is amazing! It's got 5 pin MIDI, so you can get super creative!
@@amackclassic6737 Hmmm. Means I could also ditch my 61-key controller... I don't play live, so it's not like I need a second board, and even if I did go that route, I could still go with something smaller, probably.
2 grand ? They cost 5 grand by me !
This is an 08, not the Flagship 8
This thing really awesome but it will never replace a professional audio interface with a high quality analog digital converter.
"just for 2 grand"
It s not really a proper audio interface man, LOL.... It get s some stuff done with most probably crap preamps, and not even XLR inputs. I know what you mean anyway :) I m torn between this fantom and the MODX+......I can t fucking decide, lol, geeezuzzz. Take care mate :)
their all over priced