Today I want to take a look at an incident between Jacob Trouba and Joel Armia from a couple of nights ago when the New York Rangers played the Montreal Canadiens. That and more on tonight's NHL hockey video.
Today I want to take a look at an incident between Jacob Trouba and Joel Armia from a couple of nights ago when the New York Rangers played the Montreal Canadiens. That and more on tonight's NHL hockey video.
Jacob Troubas contract makes me more angry than Jacob Troubas defensive play
Yep
hey at least it ain’t nurse 😅
Worse captain in the league for a WHILE
@@Marth66666 I dont think so after the helmet toss led to the rangers actually winning games left and right
shut yo oogley boogley doogley ass up he is a clean hitter. that was not a clean hit but all his others r
I think the reason that people are upset is that Trouba has a history of being willingly irresponsible with his hits in a way that leads to injuries. If he's not punished for bringing up his elbows like that now, he has every incentive to injure another player in the playoffs, especially since it worked for the Rangers last time.
I didn't even know the play, and my first thought was: another elbow? Dude is a turnbuckle shy of Macho Man Randy Savage.
You're acting like the refs don't call penalties on him like he's a Crosby or a McDavid. Nah dude. He's an average, if not below average, defenseman. His hits are clean. Only reason everyone shits on him is that yes, he does go for people with their heads down. Pretty easy to be seen as a head hunter when their head is tucked in their torso looking down at the puck. If he truly was a dirty player like you all think, he'd probably be going for slew foots, knee on knee hits, cross checking, hits from behind, and definitely he'd go for charging. This is 100% a penalty, but if you at all think he was doing this to injure the guy and not to just slow him down then idk man. I will concede however that homie needs to keep his damn elbows in. I don't even like Trouba lol. He sucks ass.
It was a 2 min penalty that didn't get called. This wasn't a fine or suspension worthy thing
@DeusVult there aren't even rules regarding these hits...because no one in a 100years of NHL ever thought of something like that 😆 Armia missed games, deliberate intent to hurt the opponent. They missed another opportunity to make an example out of him
@@davidj.a.8442: if that’s the case : what of Marchand , Wilson , Maroon ?? Get a life
People are overreacting specifically because this is Trouba. He has a history with cheapshots, and while elbows to the ribs (or anywhere, for that matter) are always forbidden, this one was totally uncalled for. He missed his guy by a mile and couldn’t resist the urge to at least lay a dirty hit. I’m not saying it deserves a suspension. Not even a hearing. But Trouba being Trouba, people will react. Like people reacted far more when Subban slew-footed anyone. Or each time Stützle draws a penalty by falling on the ice like a dead cat. Or each time Murray pushes the net out of its… ah, you get the point.
This is the type of hit/elbow that needs to be answered for 👊👊👊
This. This is exactly the situation. When you've crossed certain lines repeatedly, people just don't give you the benefit of the doubt anymore. I've never really been a huge fan of the "attrition" model of hockey strategy, that is, get in all the licks you can, legal and illegal, to wear down your opponent and soften them up for your offensive guys to take advantage. I wouldn't be against it in the slightest if it was limited to just legal contact, mind (and I'm referring to legal contact as specified by the rule book, not legal as enforced by the officials). A legal hit can still be extremely effective at taking someone off their game, making them a little less likely to hold onto the puck for a microsecond longer than needed. But Trouba doesn't really have that line in his mind - if he can't make legal contact, he'll make illegal contact, and sometimes people get injured.
Kind of hard to say he has a history of cheap shots when he has only been fined once for a slash and suspended for two games back with the jets. He's definitely towed the line in multiple instances and brought up some questions on what should be legal or not but his official history isn't that crazy. With that being said he definitely deserves some criticism and the plays to be reviewed and he be fined/suspended as the league sees fit. This narrative of him being a "dirty" player seems to be a bit contrived though considering his report card in comparison. I might be missing some stats though. I couldn't find a record that went over multiple years and didn't feel like scrolling through multiple lists. I'd gladly be corrected by any other history he has had.
As a Jets fan, I never really liked Trouba. He’s always been prone to reacting poorly to making a mistake and he clearly has no interest in growing out of it. Wasn’t at all upset to see him go and frankly, I’m WAY happier with Pionk.
As a habs fan im happy to say we are winning 4 to 1
@@CPM-King123 we still got more wins tho
@@Themannnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn yeah that's the point of tanking
As a Ranger fan who saw Pionk give away the puck every other second, there’s no way you prefer him over Trouba unless you’re intoxicated.
@@Andyanddiana467 Pionk hasn’t played for the Rangers in a long time. He evolved. Trouba didn’t. You kinda made my point for me. And I’m a Canadian hockey fan. Why the hell wouldn’t I be intoxicated? 😂
In a vacuum it's not that bad. But it's Jacob Trouba, everyone knows he has a history of making dirty plays and injuring guys. That's why the response is so strong
I legit was dying seeing that Matthews clip 🤣 he straight stood up straight was like "wtf you doin?" Then swoop "i got your leg" 🤣🤣
me too🤣
He pulled his leg out from under him so smoothly that I didn't even notice it at first. I thought the guy just lost his footing lmao
Matthews was like "Is this mf for real? Get the fuck on the damn ice.,"
@@ianmccurdy1223 I had to rewatch, I missed that too.
That Matthews clip was hilarious 😂
As a devil's advocate, I would still say that stretching his arm out like that was hardly the best way to play that and it can be dangerous. Elbows aren't fun to be hit by :S. Nobody likes getting hit but maaan does the elbow really suck.
Yea I don't understand y he didn't just hit him, not elbow
Aint hockey but as a defense first smaller basketball player I get some occassional elbows, worst I've had is a gravity elboew. Dude went for a lay and size difference just had his elbow conk me square on the dome, he instantly apologized and I knew all was well... it happens. Some contact is funky when size is factored, if I was taller or had more hops he wouldnt have tried to return to neutral... Earlier in the same game I got an elbow low on a spin, again it happens but that is one of those "damn I read it too well" kinda hits. Cut off too hard, the natural move is what it is. This however is just intentional what the fuckery. I wouldnt suspend dude over it but he deserves a fine. There is following through the check and then there is... Whatever the fuck this Alex Roidriguez ballslap is
As a Jets fan ever since he threw a fit about not getting all the money in the world when he went to arbitration, disliked the guy since.
@eck are you gonna review the insanity that was the officiating in the Leafs/Panthers game?
Its more of a liver shot. Used often in Boxing/Kickboxing. Hurts a ton for a 10-20min period.
Doesn’t really look like he hit near the liver
@poisontaco55 might have traveled well enough given the awkward twist his body was in and of course momentum. Even in slow motion Trouba moved that elbow FAST. Now add on the skating. If he pissed blood we'd know but we aint privvy to that info. Nor should we be.
"im a rangers fan" OH, WE KNOW
I feel that people are just mad with the fact that he gets away with it a lot, ultimately causing him to start doing and getting away with more
LMFAO Matthews pulling Cousins down is hilarious. Payback.
Just want to say, keep up the great content. Nice to see a fellow Haligonian making waves in the hockey news world. Your takes are always great and insightful!
Trouba lounges towards Armia hella fast, even in slow mo, wow.
You should cover the botched interference call with the goalie stick in the Panthers and Leafs game last night. That was so weird. I think the short and non detailed explanation of what happened would be that the officials made the call, overturned it and then put the wrong player in the box.
His elbow resulted in two major injuries in the series against the Penguins last year. I am a Jets fan and I loved his play, but he was always dirty with his hits. I don’t think it is overblown because he has a history and is never punished for it.
Trouba hits so high his “clean” hits all have high follow throughs and he often seems to be going for headshots
Armia is now officialy on the injured list because of this. It WAS dirty. The difference between this hit and the cross check on matthews you showed is that it was done with an elbow which is pointy and much more dangerous than the middle of a carbon stick. People would be overreacting if they asked for a 10 game suspension on Trouba but as far as i've seen they're just calling him out for being the rat he is.
LMAO
The Olde pointy elbow trick. That was never on Get Smart
Eck is the only channel I get hockey news from! Nice work, man:)
That’s not a “chicken wing”. He didn’t just stick his arm out to try and at least slow up Armia. He drove his elbow into the torso because captain IQ missed his check and his brain knew if he didn’t do something the habs had a clean I think 2 on 1 or 3 on 2. Maybe he should worry about defensive coverage before taking Junior A level runs at guys. I said in the last post he was on the ice for both Habs goals that game, so last laugh to Joel. Now that he’s confirmed injured I’m a little more on the side of this should have been a fine to at least draw attention to it.
Captain IQ LMAOOOO
Do you post this because it's trending on r/hockey. Was hoping the game tying goal at 0 seconds would get some coverage because it's more positive.
That slew foot by matthews in the Florida clip?
Trouba and armia were teammates back in Winnipeg
i can understand where people are coming from am not a rangers fan and i believe that should have been called but trouba shouldn't get hate its a harmless play
"harmless play". Are we watching the same clip?
I mean, objectively it's not a harmless play since someone got harmed from that play
As a Devils fan, I don’t think you’re being too biased.
I just think that if was a dirty shot. He has made a ton of cheap shots in the past, so there is a lot more hate there. I agree that I don’t think he intentionally wanted to cause damage, but he did make the choice (which is part of a pattern of choices) to still make a dirty shot, and I do think he should pay for it.
When he misses his hits, his elbow goes hunting.
It's crazy to think that Armia and trouba were teammates at one point In Winnipeg
Why is nobody talking about that Matthews clip where he just takes out Cousins' leg? I was sitting here dying!
When Jacob played for the jets I was kinda relieved to see him go. He's a liability and can be selfish
lol not surprising why NY Rags fans don't mind Trouba's goon mentality.
Jacob Trouba is more hated than Brad Marchand? I’ll be DAMNED if people hate a Ranger more than a Bruin >:C
Dude go look at modern elbow pads: they jut out/kinda have a nub right on the cap of the elbow and they huuuuurt if you get caught by them. I've taken one down in the floating ribs before and it sucks
Why aren’t we talking more about that beautiful leg sweep by Matthews
I don't like dirty hits or players who have an insanely high % chance of injuring people given their record. This is not good for the game and is honestly excessive, especially in a regular season game where the schedule is already a grind and players are just trying to get by without injuries until the playoffs. I don't think intentional injuries are fair to the fans of the other team or the GM. The player or the team doing the injuring is never punished anywhere close to the victimized team. You might get a game suspension or two while the other team doesn't have their player for what could be weeks or months. The economics of this trade are so advantageous to the dirty hitter that that they are incentivized to do it, especially in the playoffs (which is how they beat Pittsburgh).
Yo you’re such a real one for watching the Toronto game 👍🏼
I was at that game and didn’t even notice that
People hate whom TSN tells them to hate.
Overall, I don't think Trouba is terribly dirty. He is, however, the weak link on the NY defense. For $8 million a year and a long contract he is a liability. I'd wait until he puts a string of strong games together and get rid of him.
Will you be making a video on the Ivan Provorov situation tonight? Happened to tap into the broadcast at the right time, and found out about it
I’m a rangers fan but TROUBA needs to stop using the elbow. He needs to use his shoulder when he is going for a hit way more often
I don't hate him, hell I don't even know the guy. LOL! No seriously he knew damn well what he was doing and you have a great point about the lower back cross checks that go uncalled. I'm 58 with a damaged lower spine on pain management for all the one's I took.
There was a time when plays like this would have consequences for guys like Trouba, guess not so much now
Even if somebody tried to fight the refs wouldnt allow it.
Can you talk about Goubas hit on Zach Aston-Reese
Definately not condoning the chicken winging, but this happens often. The player's reputation decides how flagrant the action is more than the action itself.
1:22 Matthews pulling Cousins foot after the cross-check was brilliant. But how are those cross-checks not called????
I mean an injury can derail a player’s career and we’ve seen him do it before
i agree and though im also not a rangers fan i dont exactly love moments like this and the crosby hit
As a Bruins fan, I hold no love for Trouba. I remember when he was a Jet, I don’t think I heard much about him back then…I know that my Boston Bruins have a player with a reputation. In our last meeting with the Sabres, I watched said player hold onto Thompson’s jersey for a good 3-5 seconds…beyond amazed he didn’t get penalized, he should have. However. I have noticed that the refs are calling nothing, and everything. In my Bruins 6-0 ‘practice’ against the Flyers, Coyle got high-sticked by a Flyer right in front of a linesman. However it was believed to have been a puck flying into Coyles face, no call made, would have been a double minor otherwise. Not 2 minutes later, Greer was called for Goalie interference when Hart was behind the goal and he was being pushed towards Hart by a defender. Should have been coincidental contact because, though Greer did appear to try, he couldn’t avoid the goalie. I try to be unbiased, but I am only human so, I may be unintentionally biased. That hit by Trouba initially looked like a shoulder on shoulder hit, took a few replays to realize it was right under the ribcage, yikes
I always said if there's malicious intent the offender should be out as long as the injured player.
As a sharks fan and a die-hard fan of at least 18 players, one of them is Trouba Train🚂🚂
Anyone else catch the smooth trip by matthews?
if you get a certain reputation you can't be too surprised when people assume the worst and don't give you the benefit of the doubt
It amazes how much McDavid and Matthews, this upper echelon players get cheap shot night after night and still dominate the league like they do. Like 70% of Matthews is better than 99% of the league it seems
Hes not even one of those guys thats like “youd like him if he was on youre team” maybe if he started on my team, but if he was traded now, nope. Dont want him
I went to school with Trouba. He was one of my first friends moving to middle school in Michigan. He was always humble, friendly, and had a goofy sense of humor. Obviously he is much more aggressive on the ice, but he was never the type to bully people in normal situations.
Yeah, and Brad marchand isn't always a cunt. On ice va off ice are two different discussions
Means nothing my man. I've known Brad Marchand outside of the ice in his junior years in Val d'Or. Real sweetheart as well. Speared someone in the nards again 3weeks ago 😅 Most men in my family (me included) have records for fighting majors in the different leagues we played in.. We're all suuuuuper calm people, Ive never seen one of us raise his voice, ever. Hockey makes people dumb. My theory is that the helmet prevents oxygen from reaching the brain, but that's beside the point
Trouba regularly head hunts, so it's not a stretch to think of anything he does as trying to injure.
Most active elbows in the NHL.
He probably caught Armia on the liver which can be excruciating and debilitating. Ask anyone in boxing/MMA/etc how bad a liver shot can be
You're probably explained it in a previous video, but I'm curious as to why are you a Ranger's fan? Especially when in Canada we have a very nice team called "the Toronto Maple Leafs" 😄 (yes I am a Leaf's fan 😎)
Because he likes teams that can get past the first round.
@@Andyanddiana467Based
Jacob Trouba is basically getting a dion phagoof treatment
Do you know what "trouba" means in the language of origin (Czech)? Originally oven, tube, bullhorn, but in a figurative sense nitwit. Nomen omen:-)
the problem is he’s ALWAYS been like this, as a jets fan he was like this on the jets too, he just tries to do this greasy dirty stuff
one time the commentators called the rangers one of the most physical teams in the nhl but thats not true because every time we are physcial it's always a penalty 💀
As soon as I read the headline, I said not true I love antics
Devils fan here, and I strongly dislike Trouba for multiple reasons. That being said, this wasn't as bad as everyone makes it out to be. This hit wasn't awful, people are overreacting in my honest opinion.
Lemme skate into your floating rib with an elbow pad @ 20km Most people forget hockey players aren't wearing a suit of armor
@@Seegster77 A lot of hits in hockey are dangerous. You wouldn't see this outrage if someone like Kakko or Laf did this exact same hit. It should have been a penalty, don't get me wrong. But it's not worth a long suspension like some hockey fans are saying.
@@Seegster77 my guy a cross check to the back can cause a slipped disk and permanent paralysis but you can't go looking at things from the worst possible scenario. I'm sorry what happened to you but everytime someone takes one to the kidney you can't be trauma dumping.
I got injured 16 years ago. Anything that reminds me of my injury is worthy of suspension.
your bias make you forget simple things like the difference between a sharp blow where all the energy is concentrate into one spot and a crosscheck where most of the energy is spread trough the whole surface of the stick that is in contact with the body but at least you’re self aware
Trouba can and has thrown some heavy, clean hits but this was just bad. Instead of missing the hit and trying to get involved in the play again, he goes for an elbow? Not really cool and it's stuff like this that has people questioning his defensive plays especially with his contract length and amount. I like the guy but he definitely has some areas he can clean up to improve his game.
Love Matthew’s leg sweep with his blade
Marchand: "First Time?"
Those two played together on the jets.
Elbows are illegal, and that's all this hit was. It was a clear attempt to elbow player in a an area that might harm him. Players like this know that if you catch someone in the kidneys w/ an elbow, you're going to injure them. That's the dirtiness of a player like this. They aim for those areas that seem like they're not as harmful, but in reality, they're more likely to cause harm. In this instance, he's not headhunting, so it gets written off most of the time, but it has the capacity to do a lot of damage. In the clip you mentioned alongside it, where he hit another player w/ their head down, he leveled a defenseless player. This is something football, at both the college and NFL, levels have banned, b/c it's so dangerous. Players like this keep taking shots until one of two things happen: 1) They either really injure someone, or 2) Players around the league decide to seek their own form of justice, and they begin to look to take this guy out.
I'm your side here, yeah penalty, but was it malicious. I mean, they were teammates for how many years and they didn't seem to have anything bad between them
Well the difference is Trouba makes plays like this all the time so it looks worse the more he does it
This isn't head hunting, no. But it's not like he's never done that before.
how many games do you see that guys take multiple checks to the back nowhere play, holding them down. etc. I think he got him in a bad spot, not the right thing, but seen worse
8 million dollars for 14 points and -6 on the season so far. Only thing he can do is injure other players
day 61 of asking Eck for a jersey tierlist
It looks like he got sidestepped and just tried to get in the guys way. Happens to every defenseman
What a terrific captain
Idk about the whole kidney analysis on this one (although I haven't seen the injury report). I think we're forgetting that our guy has a whole ass rib cage there as well, and that's far more likely to be broken from a reckless chicken wing play like this.
Tom wilson is back ready to put him in his place
It’s because he’s the best open ice demolisher in the league , and people don’t like to see their players get crushed. Destroying a guy in the open ice without taking a penalty is super difficult which is why you don’t see it very often. It’s not like smashing a guy into the boards, NHL players are very shifty.
Everyone hates him because hes a Ranger....instead of being on their team.
So he’s like the Grayson Allen from the NBA lol
Hits to the kideny can knock out the best fighters in the world and when you check someone you don't use your fucking elbow and the way he throws his elbow is very similar to one of the ways you throw a elbow in a fight but that said judging from some comments this is how he throw his hit sometimes so it not on purpose but it still very dangerous and should not be ignored.
He's head-hunted multiple players, especially in last year's first round against the Penguins. When you have a HISTORY of elbowing players in the head/kidneys, it's just ignorant to point to only one instance and give the goon the benefit of the doubt.
trouba has the biggest history of elbowing people tho you just can't give him the benefit of the doubt anymore, i don't have ant problems with his open ice hits, i do with those that involve elvowing
It's dirty, but it's not like the worst thing in the world. I think he just got unlucky that the hit was in just the right place. A player like Trouba isn't going to get the benefit of the doubt that he didn't mean for it to be as bad as it was.
hmmm, injured the guy on a clear penalty that wasn't called. should be a short suspension.
Track record makes minor dirty plays worse
refs were also just off that game 100 percent should have been a call
Watching that game I thought he got him with the butt of his stick
That's what it looked like when watching
One thing for certain is that troubadour should not have been made captain. Chris Kreider would be the best candidate
He will never reach the high in hate of such players like Perry, Chiarot, Maroon, Kucherov or The Rat himself. Sheat, even Kadri is hated more.
What did kuch do to be on this vile list
No intent to injure just an elbow to the kidney once you missed your hit.. 30 game suspension to wilson for this !
I love the Rangers! I hate Jacob Trouba due to his lack of leadership as a captain, and his awful defensive shifts that definitely cost New York games. ESPECIALLY LAST YEAR IN GAME 3 VS TAMPA!!!!
His leadership led to our 7 game win streak so idk what you're talking about. He's a good leader, just not a very good defensemen.
@@TheSnapback 1 helmet toss = 7 straight wins? I don’t think so that was just when the boys were hot
@@Gav_Rangersfan You don't know what happened in the locker room. There is more behind the scenes that you don't know of. He probably rallied them up and got them the motivation that caused that streak. He's a good leader, and they chose him to be captain because they all think so. You don't have to be a great player to be a leader.
Seriously? Mr Chicken wing?
I caught kidney shots in boxing before it’s a delayed reaction and your legs just say fuck it lay down