Nuclear Physicist Reacts to Cleo Abram The Big Lie About Nuclear Waste
Nuclear Physicist Reacts to Cleo Abram The Big Lie About Nuclear Waste
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In this video, I react to Cleo Abram The Big Lie About Nuclear Waste video from the perspective of a nuclear physicist. I go through the is nuclear power green? video of Cleo Abram and look through what is accurate information on Cleo Abram The Big Lie About Nuclear Waste video as a nuclear physicist and react to it.
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Interesting video as always. I don't really have anything to say or add but I have to say this: I LOVE that NUCuLAr T-shirt! I'd love to get one of those. Where did you get it? Or do you have a merch store that I'm not aware of?
Thanks for your support! I'm glad you enjoyed the video. You have a great eye! Without giving away too much, I'm working on something huge and that NUCuLAr t-shirt is just a taste of what's to come. Stay tuned! 👩🏽🔬⚛️
@@YourFriendlyNuclearPhysicist All right. Now that is something I am looking forward to. :)
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Former president Bush needs one of these shirts lol!
@@juliafoster9433 I also always think of Dubya when I see the word written that way. :)
1:15 honestly I agree with Cleo here: the majority of people, the non-expert, do think of nuclear waste in that way. I don't think Cleo is addressing expert people or scientists. she's addressing us, average morons.
I think of the Simpson 3 eyed fish
Exactly. I don't think there is any point in reacting to these videos as you watch them. They are supposed to sound dumb at start so people with no prior knowledge could understand and get more technical as the subject is better understood. This is like going to pre-school and reacting to them teaching kids basic things everyone is supposed to know.
Agreed - Cleo's video basically starts off with her saying "Here is a thing that is clearly wrong that people think, let's take a look into why it's wrong" and Elina responds with "That thing you're saying you know is wrong? That's wrong."
exactly. I stopped wtaching the video at this point, because I don't care what an expert has to say about nuclear waste after that attitude.
From one average moron to another .... you got that right on ...
I would LOVE to hear you break down the differences between the generations of reactors
Yes. Definitely need a video on that.
And then we need a reaction video: "Reactor Reacts to Generations of Reactors"
Let me add my vote to this :)
It'd be interesting to see the take on the MOX reactors. Also, love to see her thoughts on Gen IV reactors like MSRs and GFR/SFR types.
gen 1: screwdriver and plutonium sphere gen 2: Japanese kilotonne gen3: castle bravo gen4: tsar Bomba *gen5: ork, is potato da* @amanawolf9166 what about molten salt?
Hello. Former US Navy Nuclear Propulsion here. I have to break my policy of watching the entire video before commenting to get something out of my head. You're correct when you say that cost is an obstacle to developing 'breeder/burner' reactors; but there's a story behind the story. The initial concern that slowed development and construction was, as Cleo mentions in her video, not cost, but security, specifically about the safe handling, transportatiin, and storing of fissile Plutonium, the fuel of choice for thermonuclear weapons, which is succinctly summed up by the term _proliferation._ As Cleo also mentions, since US commercial plants went the route of Light Water Low Pressure design (LWLP), and Canada the route of Heavy Water Low Pressure (HWLP), during the decades of initial investment into research, technology, and infrastructure, the fast breeder got left by the wayside, in large part due to the international Non-Proliferation Treaty and Strategic Arms Limitation Treaty (NPT and SALT) curtailing demand for the implementation of this design. So due to a tailoff of investment in the technology, the cost of implementation in today's industry is disproportionately higher because of its rare and specialized nature and the special security concerns associated with its operation and maintenance. With the amount of initial-use spent fuel sitting around the U.S. in short-term storage solutions, there is a veritable gold mine waiting ti be tapped by modern burner reactor designs - all that is lacking is the capital investment and political will to use it.
Thank you, well said
Correction, Cleo Abrams does NOT think, that nuclear waste looks like "glowing green goop" but pointed out, that this is how the media (entertainment industry) has portrayed it.
If your knowledge and education is based upon cartoons then turn on the boob tube and enjoy life.
@@clarkkent9080 Cleo was debunking what it's said in the media. Your point being?
@@silvesterjkennedy A simple point: ANYIONE who bases their "knowledge" of nuclear power based on cartoons and make believe TV is a moron. Does Cleo even have make that point? The only place you will find nuclear waste being portrayed as green goop is in cartoons.
I really liked Cleo's video and appreciated how approachable she makes the subject for the layman. Furthermore, I like how your video validates (and invalidates) the information, allowing people who found the original content interesting to learn a bit more detail.
Of course we'd be nterested in your visit in such a facility and yes as @ShameLagoon said, we would LOVE you to break down the differences between the generations of reactors 😊 Another great video!
100 %
Yes, definitely.
Onkalo here we come!
Onkalo is a hole in the ground they're going to stuff nuclear waste into then backfill with concrete, the tech itself is uninteresting, but Michael Madsen's feature-length documentary did manage to spin out the surrounding issues to fill the time.
100% agree it would be great to see
Ok, she clearly says "the first thing she thinks about" so that she can then say that's wrong. It's obvious from when she starts saying that, that's the set up. 🤦♀️
Ikr 🤦♀
Girl cant take a joke or something.
Precisely. She totally missed that point.
Yes…..she very clearly set up the point as a way to continue to the video. She needs to stop pausing and making judgement and watch the whole video……Cleo very clearly explains ALL of that in very clear measures. I’m not even going to finish watching this as it’s clear she is looking to get clicks by hitting on someone else’s work.
@@blick5815 yeah I didn't finish it either. Very disingenuous.
I think Cleo's whole point is that they ARE getting better at using waste as energy. You slammed her before you even got to that part of the video.
As usual, this girl is already being defensive on everything that relates to nuclear..
I think she somewhat missed the angle of the original video. Almost as if the video by cleo required some sort of debunking while the cleo video takes a more investigative approach to something “that could be huge if true” and is not presenting conclusions.
Thank you for the detailed breakdown of Cleo's video. I would definitely like to see your analysis of Generation 4 reactors. Also, a visit to the Finnish and/or Swedish storage facilities would be pretty cool too!
I would love to see you visit Finland. Quite aside from the Nuclear Waste Storage, Finland is a beautiful country and the people are great. You won't regret your visit.
For me I'd love you to highlight all the safety protocols that are observed at a nuclear storage facility, especially Finland's.
Stop! She won't come back.
@@Broken_robot1986 They do have interwebs in Finland. Don't worry.
@@tarmaque Interwebs?
@@LTVoyager Kids these days. Don't know the difference between the Interweb and the World Wide Net.
Minor correction: plutonium bred in a reactor isn’t necessarily useful for making weapons. It has to be almost all plutonium-239. Plutonium 240 and higher isotopes are bad as a weapon fuel, as they tend to fission spontaneously rather than at carefully controlled times. The weapons grade stuff is made by putting some uranium in a reactor and pulling it out after a short burn time.
In a breeder reactor, Uranium-238 + 1 neutron = P-239, so most of it ends up as fissile Plutonium. The waste sucking up neutrons also means a lot more fissile Uranium is required to start them (about 20%). If you end up with P-240, your reaction is eating 2 neutrons and that would be undesirable.
@@alexschnarr7718 There is a difference between what happens in a breeder's blanket and what happens in the active core region of a breeder or the core of a thermal reactor. In the blanket, your comment is correct, but in the active core of a breeder, a fast spectrum reactor without a blanket or the core of a thermal spectrum reactor, Willerwin is correct.
hence why we went GE water reactors "on the cheap" and sold them to other nations at the time to woo them away from going over to the then soviets during the cold war. we then implemented them here as well even though they are way more prone to 3 mils island and fukishima incidents........ breeders never melt down and was proven at the lab to the government and ignored just the same.
I'm gonna need to see your credentials lol
Excellent review of the video. Thank you for doing it. I would love to understand the differences between gen 3 and 4 reactors. Also, a tour of the waste storage facility would be awesome! Thank you again for your work.
1:10 the "green glowing goo" is the main ingredient for "Mountain Dew". We dispose of it by feeding it to hill billies.
Correct.
What would happen if the waste was put in a volcano on a deserted island?
Thank you for the reaction! I think I found your channel thanks to this exact Cloe Abrams video as it was recommended next to it. I'm glad to hear so many aspects of the process and the issues surroundig it.
Since you mentioned the first reactors, I remembered the origin for SCRAM Safety Control Rod Axe Man. Just. I love it.
I learnt so much from this, thank you! A real pleasure listening to an expert talking about her own field.
I like Cleo’s content. I was especially encouraged by this video of hers as it helps to dispel many false beliefs. You just have to remember that she’s not a nuclear physicist … she’s an eager, intelligent human that likes to explore many topics and share her personal discoveries. When it comes to nuclear physics, I think you’ll be hard pressed to find anyone better qualified on KZhead than Alina. She is an incredible source of information and definitely our friendly nuclear physicist! ⚛️
@@nadsenoj8719 This person is saying that Cleo Abram is not a Nuclear Physicist, not referring to Elina.
I'm going to shatter your world. Cleo Abram is an actress. Her videos are infomercials paid for and produced by others. Cleo is just the actress that reads the script. And as commercials most of her videos are inaccurate because they are promoting the agenda of whomever is paying for them. Sorry to ruin your fantasy.
@@Metal0sopher My world isn’t shattered. My fantasy is not destroyed. Plus, you’re not even close to guessing my fantasy. Cleo could be an actress, as you say, but it doesn’t matter. Nor does it matter that her content is paid for and produced by others. The basic message of her videos works either way. Sorry to frustrate any satisfaction you may have enjoyed.
That’s a harsh assessment of Cleo. She was a journalist for Vox media before creating her own channel.
@@sevenflashowls Exactly, Vox like all big media is for profit run by corporations who only care about quarterly earnings growth. So the reporters have to deliver avert clicks to increase revenue, that means manipulative stories to attract an audience, not facts. That's where she learned her skills. Plus her vids are way too professional. She clearly has editors, writers, staff, which would require hundreds of thousands of dollars a year in salaries, but she doesn't even have one million subs yet. On average You tubers earn about $10000 a year per 100000 subs. So how is she paying all these people from YT earnings alone? She's not alone. We need transparency laws. All media, vlogers or mainstream, should have a list of all financiers to back them so that we can all clearly see who, and for what purpose, pull the strings.
I’m glad to see you’re enjoying the video! I saw plenty of interest for a Gen-IV breakdown video, and I got you! Stay tuned 👩🏽🔬☢️
Answer me in the comments below!
Grateful you're going to tackle Gen-IV designs. Thank you! These improvements change the safety equation. Most folks I talk to are afraid of any nuclear energy, "because I don't want a bomb" These same folks can't even consider hydrogen fuel cars, "because Hindenburg, right?" So thank you again for getting the word out.
@@DistracticusPrime Hydrogen cars are just a bad idea and cannot compete with EVs. It doesn't have anything to do with Hindenburg phobias.
Could you do an episode on Molten Salt Reactors (MSR)? In particular where are we now for re-using waste in MSRs without requiring refinement?
Absolutely would like to see more on Gen 4 reactors, I'm also interested in the space program Sterling engine reactor. And in the concepts for the next generation that I believe are ready being talked about. So basically a gen 4 reactor differences video, with some notes on that NASA reactor, and what the concepts are for the future. Having only studied undergrad physics, despite my interest in nuclear physics I never continued my studies, therefore these videos of yours are really interesting to me. Thanks)
Would love to learn about the reactor generations and a tour of facilities. Really appreciate you taking the time to share your knowledge.
Sure thing! Thanks 👩🏽🔬☢️
My father of blessed memory, Bernard Spinrad, was one of the developers of the breeder reactor, and he would be thrilled if he knew people like you are doing videos like this. Thank you.
Sadly they failed, one after the others
Breeder reactor makes more fuel than they use?
@@Esa826 the fuel is enriched in the breeder blanket, which is separate from the fuel powering the reactor.
@@MichaelCousin1 Thank you so much for information
Great video. To be honest, the only time I'm surprised these days is if the answer *ISN'T* "because money".
Brilliant! I’d love to know more about 4th gen reactors, and also nuclear waste in general. It seems like a lot of stuff termed ‘nuclear waste’ is about as radioactive as a banana, and only a tiny percentage is the hot stuff. Could you do a breakdown of the different types and dangers and things?
I really like the Cleo video. Thank you for adding such good info. A gen 4 vs gen 3 video would be great!
Thanks so much for making this video! I loved Cleo's video but it still left me with a couple of unanswered questions, which you've helped address. My curiosity will never be sated however 😅
After mentioning Cleo's sub count at the end, I looked at yours for the first time and I am SHOCKED. Where is everybody??? Please keep this up because your production quality is FAR beyond the numbers you have now. Thoughtfully and respectfully reviewing Kurzgesagt is a big accomplishment that few KZheadrs have the expertise and attitude to do. Again, please please keep the truth and insights coming!!
Yes, your videos provide so much more value because they're in depth and not one sided. Nuclear energy isn't perfect, but it isn't terrible either. Understanding it's strengths and weaknesses is important.
For many, ignorance is bliss.
I'm not surprised at all about that, sensational and superficial videos are the best selling items in KZhead. Turning on your brain and consume more thorough content is not for everyone.
I think if we gave it 30 seconds of thought, we could easily come up with and explanation for Cheo Abrams popularity... I'll take Elina's style any day of the week.
Cleo is not a scientist but a (science) communicator whereas Elina is a communicative scientist, and I am thankful for her channel.
Thank you, that was a great counter-balance to the earlier video, which I had seen, and it clarified things for me very well.
Glad it was helpful!
just wait for the toktik army to request ZNPP meltdown bs who havnt even taken a atomic science 200 class yet...
@@YourFriendlyNuclearPhysicist Good job and thank you for clarifying her misinformation. I've seen many of Cleo's videos before and I need to point out that Cleo Abram is a total and complete grifter. Her videos are scripted by the people promoting the story line. She is just the pretty face actress paid to deliver the lines, because they know on technical issues the audience is mostly male, mostly nerdy, and hook line and sinker easily taken by a pretty girl. Sorry to be blunt, but the truth is the truth. Watch enough of her videos and it will soon become evident that the entirety of any of her videos, is the add. Not all her videos are bad, but I have an issue with people like her portraying a paid commercial as scientific truth. This is part of the problem with all media today. All of them are in it for the profit, not the facts, in fact, the facts are too often tossed aside when the truth is inconvenient.
I like the short version, and then the in depth information you share. People like me need to take baby steps! All of this is so cool.
Awesome video, I like how Cleo aims to reach out to the general public and really really enjoyed your analysis and the additional knowledge you provide. Thank you
Cleo not Chloe
@@360VR thank you for pointing out my typo. Corrected
Love your in depth analysis. Sometimes a single sentence deserves several minutes of discussion. I wish more videos were like yours!
Glad you enjoyed it!☢️👩🏽🔬
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True...but Elina skipped over alot of Cleos video which had a couple of small mistakes but if anyone watched from start to finish would see, was very interesting and informative.
Interesting video. I had always thought that waste recycling had been avoided more for non-proliferation reasons than cost. It's disappointing that dry storage is cheaper than recycling but when put in perspective, I understand why they've taken that approach.
Where there's a will there's a way - something tells me cost is merely an excuse, for now at least...
"recycling" is actually a BIG misnomer when referring to nuclear waste. There is no recycling. It is actually "RE-PROCESSING". And reprocessing is actually a very dirty, energy intensive, and expensive process. Places that conduct reprocessing activities (like Orano la Hauge, France or Sellafield Cumbria, UK) actually create large secondary radioactive waste streams that are pumped into the ocean. There were several reprocessing efforts in US that didn't do much better, and thus commercial reprocessing efforts in the US were abandoned.
@@CrystalLakeEast very good points about being energy intensive - when the transition away from fossils fuels means that the energy used for reprocessing is from clean sources then it might start to become a bit more circular. Even now the amount of fossil fuels it likely takes to build, maintain, fuel and then decommission nuclear plants in general probably makes a sizeable dent in the ‘carbon neutrality’ of nuclear as an energy source…
Well, I made a similar comment above. This is my understanding as well.
Well digging a hole and putting the waste in it costs nothing as long as there is little waste. Recycling becomes relevant and cost-effective when there is so much waste you can’t afford digging a hole. And putting waste underground only creates a new potential ressources for future generations if our society were to collapse and lose track of its holes.
Great video! Thank you for explaining it so well. And yes! Please talk about gen 4 reactors.
Thank you for the detailed explanation and putting context behind the possibilities. Subscribed.
A good down to earth breakdown of the facts- and a superb presentation!
What a great review of another popular channel. Peer review makes science work, and I think it can elevate the KZhead platform as well. This is my first time seeing your channel, and in looking forward to watching your prior videos, AND BOTH of the suggested videos you mentioned here.
She has an bad track record in mixing up scientific feasabilities and real world usecases. She doesnt talk about all sort of difficulties in upscaled nuclear processes, but she is advertising a unfit technology.
A fantastic response to Cleo's introduction. Thank you very much! I wonder if you have seen the film 'Into Eternity' (2010)? It was the documentary (though a little 'subjective') about Onkalo in Finland. Thanks again!
Thank you for your reaction to Cleo's video. Your expertise elevates the legitimacy of the claims made in the video. I found her video both enlightening and frustrating. The frustration comes from learning how inefficiently we have been utilizing nuclear power. Now that you've confirmed the premise of the video, the question remains; how do we get past the governmental hang-ups and get on with it...
errr cost ?
you wont the gov is against nuclear has been for decades since the then dem congress of the time in i think the 60's poo pooed breeder reactors as the route to go and went with water reactors by GE so we could export them cheaply to nations we did not want going over to the red scare and not have a reactor that could easily make material for them to make nukes. carter put the final nail in the coffin and here we are today.
Between watching you, and Kyle Hills half-life history other nuclear information videos, my concern for nuclear power (for energy purposes) has reduced from mid-high to low. Awareness makes all the difference when it comes to things that are considered dangerous by the general public
The most dangerous part of nuclear power is the people running itas long as they are safety minded and doing their job properly, nuclear power is clean, safe, reliable, and cheap.
@@destructorinator Have you met other Americans????
@@destructorinator The reprocessing plants in Sellafield and La Hague made themselves, not the best reputation. Also in the last century, they made quite a streak of dumb decisions like dumping waste in the ocean. I wish it changed, but France overusing their old reactors and increasing their lifespan further and further instead of replacing them, tells me... If they had your approach maybe, but sadly this isn't the case and money is before safety.
@@clarkkent9080Meanwhile, every single country with the capability is enriching uranium for weapons. But yeah, 'merica bad, Nazi's shoulda won.
Kyle Hill videos are full of misinformation and outright lies
This was an excellent review. Would definitely appreciate a video on Gen 4 nuclear reactors. Thanks!
Very informative. Nice to hear an explanation from someone who is an expert in the field. If you haven't covered it yet, I would like to see a video about design flaws in nuclear reactors that caused accidents in the past & how new designs can avoid nuclear meltdown. On a tangent, you look great in the outfit at 2:01.
I´d love to see you visiting the Finnish waste management plant, and their storage facilities.
Great video. While watching Cleo Abram's video, I had so many questions. Elina answered them with the practical and technical details I was looking for. Great ideas can be conceived, but the practical implementation in a lot of cases is the big hurdle in the way of making them a reality.
i bet it still provides cheaper power than windfarms
I really liked this video and found it very interesting. Thanks for making it! I'm looking forward to watching more of your content.
Thank you! That was informative and helpful. Greatly appreciated.
I would enjoy hearing you discuss the Gen IV reactors being worked on. I myself learned about them because some intrepid soul made a mod for the video game Kerbal Space Program where you could build Gen IV nuclear reactors into your spacecraft. Curious, I put the reactor types into an internet search engine.
Those new reactors are economically dead, pointless to build. Each kWh costs 4-6x more than any other electricity source. Makes absolutely no economic sense, at all.
@@chargehanger So we give them the same cushy treatment as "green" energy and get a better mousetrap.
at first but as more are built they will become more efficient and cheaper everything starts off expensive@@chargehanger
I would love for you to elucidate the differences between generations, but I would particularly be over the moon to see Finland's methods!
I learned so much. Thank you for great content!
Thanks for the very informative video, as always. And to answer your question, YES! I would enjoy watching a video about nuclear waste repository in Finland. It would be nice if could actually see what is going on there, if they will give you permission to film it :)
Thank you for that smart brain stimulation of the day, Elina ! And yes, PLEASE, I would love to see the Finland geological depository sites very much !!
You got it!☢️👩🏽🔬
Please do a video on gen 4 reactors.
Great video and fantastic information. Thank you for the breakdown!
Brilliant....thankyou for talking us thru in simple terms, i learned alot👌👍
Thanks for the great extra information! One thing I'd love to learn more about though is the question: Is it really cheaper to buy new uranium AND pay for the storage of the waste as opposed to recycling the waste? Or is the cost for storage just taken out of the equation because energy companies don't have to pay for it (maybe the tax payer does...?). If the latter is true, then recycling could be made cost effective by "just fixing" a couple of laws instead of finding fancy business models? Thanks again for the great insights!
Well done! Added more technical explanation. Cleo did the 'layman' version, and Elina went a bit deeper into the physics. Green Goo is a 'common' representation, she found plenty of examples, not a big deal. Both of these young women give me hope for the future.
Glad the algorithm decided to show me your video! Very informative, and I quite liked your presentation. Happily became a subscriber!
Wow, I just discovered your channel and am already a fan and subscriber. Looks like I have a lot of old videos to catch up with.
I have been watching Cleo Abram since she started her channel. I think generally speaking she does a good job of reporting subjects accurately, however, for most of the things she reports on she is not a hobbyist or an expert on the subject so she inevitably is going to make mistakes, even with the intention of being as accurate as possible. It was nice listening to you to point out the errors, add clarification, and add context to what she said. I have a question I would like to ask you. What is the nationality origin of your accent? I am having trouble identifying it. Though I think it sounds lovely regardless.
I don't think Cleo is doing herself any favors by teaming up with the perpetually-bitter Johnny Harris.
She is Greek.
It's Greek with maybe some Swedish.
@@p_serdiuk At least the surname tells me she is Greek. What makes anyone with some Greek ancestry feel instantly proud of an intelligent lady she is. ;-)
Thank you for simplifying an otherwise complex topic. Keep up the good work. cheers.
For anyone interested in learning more about the underground storage facilities in Finland mentioned by Elina, there is a really good documentary called 'Into Eternity' (I believe it can be watched on KZhead). I can't talk about the possible accuracies or inaccuracies of the film, but as a layman I found it an interesting watch when it aired on UK TV in the mid-2010s (I believe it aired under the title 'Nuclear Eterinty').
Thank you for recommendations. Yes, many people seem to have vital interest in this topic. And for a very good reason.
Thankyou, Elina, for doing this tedious analysis. As an older engineer who's had access at times inside secure areas of a few major reactors, I also find Cleo's presenter skills positive, UNTIL in a third of her videos, my bullshit detector trips several times over half-truths and misrepresented contexts, which are very tedious to sort through. Though I find her polish on graphics and voice over skills easier to view, I find your information and analysis more realistic and trustworthy. That's important in high costs and risks tech fields.
A video on visiting Finland's usage of that Swedish research sounds super interesting! I'm subscribed now. :) Found you here from Cleo's channel, great info, thanks!
Great to have specialists looking at these videos
Great video. You added some interesting context to Cleo's video. I would enjoy seeing you explore some of the topics you raised (4th gen, storage alternatives...) in the future. I'd also like more insight into why the recycling options aren't cost effective. It makes intuitive sense, but a more quantitative look would be interesting along with a review of emerging approaches. One point of constructive feedback: I don't honestly think that Cleo believes that nuclear waste is "green goo." I think she was just starting with a recognition of the popular representation of waste in film and tv and trying to start on a lighthearted note. It came across as "nuclear physicist-splaining" and started your otherwise great video off on the wrong note. I always enjoy your videos. Keep up the great work. The world needs to understand that it's time to move past the fear and recognize that fission can be a huge contributor to our move to a carbon neutral future.
A few months ago I read an article about a company that desperately wants to build reprocessing facilities here in the US. They have a relatively simple but ingenious solution to the plutonium problem: keep the plutonium mixed in with other things throughout the whole reprocessing chain. You don't have to worry about pure plutonium if you never isolate it in the first place. Obviously the technology is at least a few years out yet, but I'm as optimistic about this idea as I am about nuclear energy in general.
Plutonium has a VERY long half life and it's not something you really want in your eventual waste.
@@nerdyali4154 Exactly, but you can leave it mixed into the inevitable fuel product, not the waste. The same principle could apply to minor actinides as well.
Any source of more information about it? "keep the plutonium mixed in with other things throughout the whole reprocessing chain"; Isn't it a bit too risky? I mean, what would be supposed to be used in such mix? I mean, I might be wrong but it sounds like making actual final waste even more problematic than it would be without it. Unless there is something I don't know of going into this mix. This is why I'm asking.
@@agatastaniak7459 I found the article I read from CNBC, the company is called Curio. Unfortunately there isn't a lot of information on this specifically. Worse, at least for me, the first Google result for "nuclear waste reprocessing" is a very misleading critique.
I would love to know about the gen 3 and gen 4, thank you for your insights into this subject. I have heard proposals of using a modified particle accelerator as a means of burning out the remaining isotopes in the used fuel.
Yes, getting more insight into this would be valuable. Reading on various technologies I have encountered such dissussions. Tempting prospects, as it seems, but what's are the negatives sides that should really be considered?
Claim: we can't economically recycle nuclear waste. Also claim: France is economically recycling nuclear waste. Which one is it?
There is often NOT a good reason why technologies or ideas are left behind. It's who has the ear of those in power that gets something moved forward or canned. There's a lot of maneuvering, even malfeasance that goes on where the general public doesn't or isn't allowed to see or know.
Or there is. A political one. And this is the case of a backlash against nuclear power in Europe. I have been saying this for years in my own country but only now decision makers started to listen to actual scientfic arguments regarding this. For my country it's the only good option, so we are vitally interested in informing both our politicians and the general public. And maybe various industries as well. Since stable and safe energy production is a life blood of every economy really.
Hello Elina!.. love your channel.. your commentary about nuclear waste and reuse .. we need to get the word out!!
Thank you for that video and the information it provides. I missed some information about the challenges and down sides of the fast breeder reactors (FBR). The ones that have been built, are pretty unsafe so far.
It's only a matter of time before we develop an economic way to recycle it. Even if it's not all re-fueled, {non fuel grade beta emitters could be used to produce light in govt. facilities for instance}. The more we learn about radioactivity the more we will be able to use it.
You have to be easy on Cleo when she said her idea of nuclear waste is the classic green slush. All she meant was it how it's been portrayed in pop culture. Even I only realized that nuclear fuel and nuclear waste actually looked like cylindrical pellets.
You don't actually have to go easy on that. Nobody actually believes nuclear waste is green and glowing - they are aware that it's fiction used for comical purposes, like in the Simpsons. Therefore, stating that it's the prevailing cultural belief is disingenuous because everybody is in on the joke. Cleo gets plenty of things wrong in her videos exactly because she isn't that fastidious about her research. She caters to an audience that will not cross check what she says because they are into easily digestible infotainment that doesn't require them to learn anything further. The goal is to watch it, say "wow" and then go away feeling like they're a bit smarter. I find her content to be exceedingly inane.
@@andoletube I am not sure that NOBODY actually thinks nuke waste is green glowing goop. Just as I can't be sure if Cloe's statement of actually believing nuke waste as glowing green goop as accurate. But if Cloe's videos can at least start someone to have a change of opinion or at least start thinking, then it's done its job.
The problem is that people who don't have any idea about anything scientific or how our universe works make videos about science, like Cleo and Johnny Harris. And naive people who watch those videos believe whatever they hear or want to hear.
@@summerlove7779 hence the prefix "I used to think it was this". Then they proceed to show what nuclear waste actually looks based on their research. The whole point of their videos is to correct the wrong notions from pop culture and make things more understandable.
@@czarcoma When they say "I feel like..." that many times, they are really not getting to the heart of anything - except what they feel like.
Stumbled upon your site…love the persona, the message and the drive! To be commended. We must start collectively doing what this woman is doing and supporting those that are trying to make this world better.
Great breakdown to understand more the nuclear nuances and process. Subscribed!
Fantastic! Elina does a terrific job and we really need her. Great work Elina!
Somewhat true for both of you. I have heard from multiple sources: that much of the nuclear waste in the USA (we don't reprocess our waste) can be placed in the blanket of a molten salt thorium reactor and then used to produce more heat and electricity. The advantage is that it would reduce the nuclear waste storage time from 10,000 years to 300 or 500 years. (some sources have said 300 years while others are saying 500 years. Can you tell me what the discrepancy or disagreement is over the variations in years. Hint, I am not a nuclear engineer or have extensive nuclear knowledge, so Keep It Simple Stupid or KISS in your explanation) I hear that France reprocesses their nuclear plant waste. Is this true?
It would be interesting to hear more about Japan releasing tritium water into the ocean
Yes, latest hot topic. Worth to disspell the doubts of people around the world. Since it is doing a lot of harm to entire sector of nuclear energy production in general. People deserve to get a well-balanced scientific analysis of this situation and of all facts involved.
Thank you so very much for doing this. It is a great weight off my mind to hear a expert in the field voice. Their opinions on what’s being said on KZhead.
Wonderful video, thank you! And yes, I would love to see a video contrasting the different generations of nuclear reactors, cheers!
You lost me when you arrogantly dismissed her reference to a Simpson’s joke about t green goo. Apparently you don’t like people with a sense of humor. Also you arrogantly criticized her for not already knowing that waste had energy content. Most people don’t know that, and Cleo is a reporter who researches stories of which she has no prior knowledge. That’s what reporters do. Her technique is engaging and very educational. You can refute things she got wrong without insulting her.
Excellent video, Elina. Thank you. I'm wondering at what price of Uranium it becomes economically interesting to use 4th gen reactors. Then there's also the storage cost to take into account. I also ask myself: how low can the lifetime of radioactive material be brought using the 4th gen reactors? and if we could make some sort of batteries from the remaining radioactive waste? I would be very interested in a video explaining the differences btwn 3rd and 4th gen reactors.
Gosh, nice to refer to Sweden/Finland neaclear waste desposol storage plant.... Sounds like Clean Coal... Nowhere to be found on America...
Hey, I'm glad the almighty algorithm for recommended this video! As a high school chemistry teacher, I'm always looking for good enrichment material for students interested in nuclear topics. I'm excited to check out more of your content. Thank you!
Great review and excellent information! Thank you!
The MSR was designed to enable breeding fertile elements to fissile fuel , removal of fission fragments in the molten liquid coolant, ect. There are no fuel rods to handle and process. Only fission fragments are removed.
Bravo! Great comment on a really complex subject that beyond all science has so many social, economical, political and military implications. Wasn't aware of that at all even though I follow Cleo for a long time already...thanks!
More information the better, I am interested in knowledge regard different nuclear reactor version and the storage in Norway Thanks for complementing the original video.
My understanding is that the CANDU Heavy Water reactors can already use spent fuel from other reactors, but the cost/lack of processing facilities is the biggest hurdle. This kind of makes sense as Canada has a lot of Uranium reserves, and with the existing infrastructure to extract and refine raw ore, before shipping it to other countries to be used, it’s just cheaper to use the new stuff. Will we be seeing any heavy water Gen 4 reactors, and if so, will they be capable of using spent fuel? What needs to happen to make reusing spent fuel economical?
Thank you. I am learning new, incredible stuff about nuclear energy with each one of your uploads. You're doing a great job communicating misunderstood aspects of nuclear energy. Thanks!
Nice review. Thank you for adding your own perspective. :)
I would love to see the differences between reactors. Here in Argentina the INVAP has a lot of experience building heavy water reactors. In fact, they are building the CAREM, a modular reactor. I would like to ask you a video about those kinds of reactors too. Love your channel! thanks!
If I'm not wrong, the CAREM is the only modular reactor being built at the moment in the whole world, even in a prototype phase
The misdirect here is the fact that the issue by volume isn't the fancy fuel products (e.g. processed pellets, reprocessed fuel) but the low level and high level waste left from producing, processing and reprocessing the fuel. France had a full cycle system with the Super Phenix reactors, but what do you do with the contaminated acids and bases used to chemically refine, purify, and reprocess the fuel? This issue is why the Hanford Site is such a mess-not refined U or Pu or Th but contaminated acids and bases in steel tanks and discarded contaminated bunny suits, etc. Rocky Flats, Oak Ridge, Los Alamos, Hanford, all filled with inconvenient high volume waste not amenable to reuse or reprocessing.
I absolutely love your videos! The KZhead algorithm actually brought me to Julia‘s video months ago. It was excellent to view this video afterwards. Very informative..
I had just watched the video with Cleo Abram. Your critique was very useful in understanding the drawbacks of recycling at this time. I believe more information from those like yourself will, in time, furnish, to the public, that will mitigate their fears about nuclear power.
@YourFriendlyNuclearPhysicist Hi, Are there any technical solutions for the plutonium and proliferation issue ? Is the method of recycling spent fuel a process that can be easily performed in the wrong hands? Or is it a difficult process? What efficiencies can be implemented to reduce the cost of recycling spent fuel? Thanks.
Love your videos! You do a GREAT job breaking this stuff down! I do want to point out that Cleo did clarify in the next couple sentences that nuclear waste is pellets. Maybe she shouldn’t have led with the “green goo” trope, but watching her whole video, she did clarify it, and it seemed like she only brought up that misconception as a way to emphasize to people one of the “lies” about nuclear waste.
Great expert analysis -presented in terms understandable to the lay person- of an important topic that too few people know anything about and too many people know too little about. Also excellent command of English -and nice t-shirt. Thank You.
Great content, keep it coming
The content is good As someone who works for a laboratory in the UK, I greatly appreciate it. Please continue creating such fantastic content
I also would like to learn about the different types/ generations of nuclear reactors and how they work. But since you mentioned cost as well as politics in this video, in a new video discussing these kinds of reactors, it would also be helpful to discuss how various local laws and international treaties limit or affect the construction of each reactor type (if such legal or political factors apply). Likewise for economics: it'd be helpful to see and hear some graphs about cost of fuel types for each reactor, any enrichment process needed in order to use such fuel, the relative costs of building each type of reactor, and the relative costs for operating and maintaining each type of reactor. I've also heard that nuclear reactors can have a shelf life, too. What factors in a reactor prevent it from being able to operate safely for a longer period of time? Why do some reactors eventually get shut down?
Thanks... informative... and yours are the best videos on Nuclear power period!!
Great review , if you can also create content around the potential and technological advancements with thorium , is it still a viable idea for the future ? Are we still facing challenges with corrosion ? What’s next for tomorrow?