How The Miami Heat Have Been ROBBING The NBA For Years
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The Miami Heat have a Grand Elder Guru Namekian that unlocks their players potential. Edit: never thought id say this. R.I.P Akira Toriyama
LMFAOOO
Funny and ironic.
HAHAHAHWHAHAHAHHA WTF
As someone who doesn’t know wtf that is I have to laugh and pretend I get the reference
That is correct and his name is Chris Quinn if you watch practice footage of Heat and Skyforce players you have probably seen him but didn't know his name
Joe johnson is another one who had a resurgence with the heat, and utah immediately gave him 11 million and had to add $1 million with him just to dump him to the kings a year later😭. The heat are a first class organization
Damn I remember Iso Joe. Very clutch player. My fav was when he caused Paul Pierce ankles to implode 😂
Tbf, he played better with the jazz than with us 😂
Man I forgot Iso Joe played for the heat
Fuck iso Joe all I remember is him going like 5-30 in the playoffs when we needed him
To be fair to ISO Joe in Utah, he did hit a game winner in game 1 vs the Clippers
*Heat player becomes a free agent* Lakers: Y'all dont want that? Shieeeeet, more for me 😂
what happened to Gabe Vincent 😂
was looking for this comment
*Then the Lakers proceed to get swept in the playoffs again*
@@FraudkunaHe's been injured all season
@@anon2414he was bad before the injury.
It's almost like the Miami Heat are one of the few teams that actually takes the BASKETBALL in National Basketball Association seriously.....
All they missing is a big man to help bam and Jimmy
@@blankblank2924 that is never happening lol
@@blankblank2924casual ass take
@@Susmore21 why don’t you work for the nba with your HOF takes?
As a heat fan im tired of developing all these undrafted talent lol. If we could get some real talent around jimmy and bam then we could actually win a championship. Terry, duncan and caleb have been lights out recently
The lesson here isn't that the Heat are robbing teams. The lesson is that teams do not optimize what they have. Instead, they try to buy work ethic and chemistry when it can only happen from within the organization.
As a Miami fan, I agree. But “robbing the nba” just makes you want to click the video 😂 (guilty here)
I mean it's almost as if the lakers only read the statlines for nunn before signing him. Kendrick nunn was terrible playing off the ball and there's no way he should be the primary ball handler when lebron or jimmy is on the court.
Let him cook
Another guy is Josh Richardson he was good on the heat, kinda fell off when he went to other teams, and immediately started to play better when he came back to Miami
Now he’s always injury prone 🤦🏾♂️I feel like they gone let bro go again tbh
Dru smith should never been a thing@@SteveyTV
@@ghostrider2698 yeaaa kind of a pointless signing but I guess it was just to add depth
Just got hurt for the season😢
@@twilight_iii4224he was hooping for us too, hopefully patty mills can fill some of the bench spark j rich gave
I loved how jimmy butler for awhile was seen as a locker room problem and teams kept moving on from him due to him calling out stars, then he got to the heat and his teammates love his competitiveness and the teams he left (wolves and 76ers) had their stars exposed for being soft and immature. Now Jimmy and the heat overperform and us fans get to enjoy an actual competitive star and team
T Wolves: Jimmy is mean Also T Wolves: We love AntMan’s competitive fiery spirit
@@ImTheGibbybecause they saw what Jimmy turned into away from them. The team needed a backbone and they’d be incredibly dumb to let go of Ant and call him a cancer. They’d never escape the soft label ever.
He didn't show that with the timberwolves in the playoffs... Jimmy Butler had 11,8,13 point games vs the Rockets. He's the only player that gets an excuse for being a locker room cancer.
man Wayne Ellington even received a moniker or a nickname "The man with the golden arm" only to fall off the moment he leaves miami
Erik Spoelstra needs to get more credit. He's the main reason for the culture with the Miami Heat.
what a great guy, wish thibs would take some notes
Pat Riley gets about 60% of the credit. Spoelsta gets 40% of the credit. Riley is the clear architect.
@@donovanwalkerjrexactly
@@donovanwalkerjrpat is liiiiiiiitle overhyped
You forgot the OG of Heat culture warrior only to drop off when signed elsewhere, Ike Austin. Bruce Bowen is the only former Heater that got better after leaving, but that playing for Pop which is essentially Miami West.
That takes me back!!
When I first found out Bowen played for the Heat before the Spurs my mind was blown, for some reason I thought they drafted him.
Eddie House must be another guy who had a better career after living the Heat. Shaun livingston had a 1yr career with the Heat but was a good role player after he left the Heat
Ike!!! Was scrolling down to see if any old heads in here 😂
Not to mention how Pat and Andy are masterminds. Pat is just that guy, maybe a little older and not the same. But still…it’s Pat Riley. Not to mention Andy Elisburg is probably the most under appreciated executive in the NBA. That man is a genius. I think Spo is next in line to be the GM in place of Pat. Spo and Andy will take the reigns and continue the culture.
Not to mention their unappreciated ability to give their coaches a raise after their divorce.
@@TrggrWarningwhat's your point? Was Spo not deserving?
@@MrAlexchi888 did I even imply that? Nice likes!
@@TrggrWarning how does the divorce relate to Heat culture or the OP? Or do you not have anything constructive to add except dragging the front office of the Heat?
@@MrAlexchi888 the front office waited for the divorce to be finalised to give out the raise so that they didnt lose any of it through the divorce
"Anthony Mason" is a perfect example of Heat culture. In the 90's his career was over, Pat signed him and made him an All Star. Heat Culture is 100% real, I've watch it since Pat went to Miami. The Knicks are still salty as that could have been their culture LMFAO!
Damn I never thought about that Knicks what if
Melo simply didn’t want pat he didn’t like his style
@@Chastisedz That's why Melo never once sniffed a ring. He's not a winner
Don’t forget James Johnson and Derrick Jones Jr. lol
Derrick jones jr now is thriving in dallas hes pretty much solid
@@justanormalperson5330 you’re right this year he’s been good. he was awful in Chicago, could barely even get on the floor and when he did, didn’t show anything.
James Johnson was already a great role player before he got to Miami tho, after his Miami stint he was already past him prime.
@@duanedoldrum7570 this is objectively not true pol
@@leothelion2593nah. DJJ was just featured more in Miami, and now in Dallas because they needed him at that 4 spot, and also his length, as a defender. Reminds me of Haywood right now. Any lanky, long and especially defensive forward will get a lot of minutes in Miami. Idk why they don't get more of DJJ type players anymore.
So in summary Miami is just a superior nba franchise being able to bring out the potential of players that other franchises cant
The heat also have the highest player turnover rate in the NBA. Because they burn players out then boot them when they get injured.
@@moresomozethey actually don’t, but also if players aren’t getting better why keep them, if they haven’t proven themselves and get injured why would you keep a roster spot open for them. Life is tuff lil bro
All credit to Pat Riley. He took everything he learned from Jerry West and the Lakers about building a franchise culture and he took it up a notch in Miami.
I still think Vincent will find some success eventually. He plays the game so smooth and his shooting form is near perfect. 5 games is a pretty small sample size, especially for the lakers offense which has been dysfunctional all year.
Its weird that being in shape makes you play better. Who knew? Maimi is that parent that help you achieve your dreams but only if you are serious about it and meet them halfway.
I think that this is also part of a bigger trend: the player who explodes in the last year of his contract rarely translates that explosion to the next contract.
"We are not for everybody" Jimmy Butler, NBA finals
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The commitment to their G-League team is definitely underrated. They have them in Sioux Falls and they prefer it there because it’s cold af in the winter and minimal night life so they have to commit even harder to basketball
The title is deflee for clicks. Miami isnt robbing anyone. If anything players who leave are robbing themselves os a good career because of a number of reasons. Most likely a lack of discipline!
I don’t know how to tell you this.. but NBA players who aren’t superstars prefer money more than rings. That isn’t to say that they don’t care for basketball or that they don’t care of winning at an elite level or playing at an elite level, but it’s a common sense concept that if you just think about it for about 6 seconds will start to make sense to you. When you are a role player averaging 10,2,3 on 40/30/70… you could care less about winning a ring when it means someone like the Lakers, for example, will sign you for $35,000,000 over 2 years. You can’t expect role players to look at the POTENTIAL of an NBA Championship (which the heat haven’t won in a decade) as opposed to looking at the GUARANTEED life altering money POST-career sitting right in front of them. Edit: The fact that you don’t see 6th men of the year candidate players accepting a minimum deal in FA to go play with the previous years champions should show you something.
I was just talking to my dad about how many players have finessed a bag after playing well in Miami😂. I’m glad to see Duncan Robinson continue to add stuff to his game. At one point I thought he was in jeopardy of ending up on this list.
Pretty much don’t sign any of their players because they won’t play nearly as good as they did in Miami
Let me correct you, don't sign players from a hard work ethic Nba organization if your a organization that does high school drills. The player doesn't change the staff does....
Well Max Struss is waving. 😂
Because other teams dont give them the same opportunity as Miami plus Miami play very unselfish basketball
LETS GO HEAT. Great vid. I personally cheered for most of this guys because of what they showed while wearing the HEAT jersey. This TEAM top is an open “door” for true talent and commitment, they are about winning and the game. The Sky is the limit in an environment like that if the will and wisdom to recognize the “door” is there. The CULTURE is real. LETS GO TEAM!
I’m really glad that you’re back after what happened!
Appreciate your support always Mou!
What happened?
@@TSeven714lmk what happened please im curious
@@11DowningStreetprobably said some real dumb shit online
as an OG miami fan this guy knows his stuff
Great job on the video. Keep it up
I’m surprised you didn’t mention Justice Winslow. When the Heat moved him to PG he had one of the best stretches of his career, went to Memphis and fell out of the rotation
The original Heat culture creation to drop off with another team was Center Isaac Austin who won the Most Improved player in 96-97 & was dealt to the Clippers at the trade deadline for Brent Barry (he was set to be a free agent that off season). After the season he signed with the Magic. His career went downhill after leaving Miami.
Let’s goooo the goat returns
Thanks Trevor ❤️
You're back! ❤
wild to start the video with clips from the big 3 era talking about them overachieving when if anything that group massively underachieved.
We def need a part 2!!
Love your style of editing
Whiteside changed when all the stars left at once and they went into rebuild mode. He was the definition of an x factor player which was a whole different era of the NBA
This is some good research.
I absolutely love the Heat mindset. The players are coachable, Spo's amazing and the culture is just 🤌
Its called loopholes. Its called discipline. Its called dedication. Its called sacrifice.its called hardwork.
Miami Heat did not rob the NBA, it just shows Miami Heat have higher standards than the rest of the league.
Gotta say I miss alotta these guys because they were all part the tough times our heat team was stuck on purgatory post big 3, although most went downhill in their careers at least they got recognition for their hard work and secured the bag to succeed albeit in a small way.
Coach and the management team always are the most valuable elements for a sport clubs.
I remember the moment the Heat gave Whiteside that max contract. It was downhill very quick from there. Didn't care much anymore and just cared about getting his 2k rating up.
I WAITED FOR YOU!
I hear you, but I hate this narrative. It's true that ex-Heat players are not as good outside the Heat system BUT that's not a reason not to trade with the Heat. I propose other teams watch and learn AND understand that Spo is Him while their coach simply is not.
Wow as a Heat lifer I never thought about this but your 100% correct.
Bruh; I remember Norris cole coming outta nowhere 😂
Hassan been playing in puerto rico last season so he obviously still wants to play he got paid and he's chilling good on him
Hey Treese remember when you made that video defending Killian Hayes? I kept the receipts haha 😂 Just jokes another nice vid!
Norris Cole, Mario Chalmers, Carlos Arroyo, Okaro White - to name a few more
The Heat have an amazing staff and can see talent through any obstacle. This year, they had the 18th pick and picked up Jaime Jaques Jr. who is a stud and arguably a top 3-4 rookie this year. Pat and Spoelstra are masterminds
Let's not forget...Joel Anthony, he was a heat superstar 😂
The real narrative need to be is how can Miami can pull that dog out of players, but other organizations cannot. That alone should tell you what type of team your supporting.
This is facts, been a heat fan since 13’ and I can never understand why no other teams hold players as accountable as we do
The Miami Heat is definitely a thing. Its evidence of when drive meets good fortune, however u have to be willing to keep those same habits after u get what you've been working so hard for. Besides other franchisees don't empower their players like the Heat so the freedom and opportunities aren't the same as when they were with the Heat
All started with Pat Riley's experience with Lakers in 80s and Knicks and Miami at 90s. He got the most out of role players like Michael Cooper, AC Green, Rambus, John Starks, Anthony Mason, PJ Brown
The Lakers keep getting Miami’s sloppy seconds
Eh, not really. Maybe just Gabe Vincent, but we’ve really yet to see him healthy tho. Nunn was signed for like $5m which is incredibily cheap and basically didn’t matter if you play him or not.
Pat Riley is probably the best GM/Executive in the league and Spoelstra is a coach who needs no introduction. There's a reason why with other teams coaches come and go but Spoelstra remains.
When everyone wanted Spoelstra fired, Pat gave him time to grow and learn. Teams don't do that anymore
@DM-lj2mn Yeah that's true. Lots of teams give up on coaches too quickly. Plus some teams are kind of whipped by their stars. The Bucks never should have let Budenholzer go but that's what Giannis wanted so..m
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Crazy to think this coulda been the Knicks culture
LMFAO! Yep, that's what started the rivalry. NYC still big mad over that fax.
Really wanted to see Tyler Johnson in a dunk contest. Would of been fire!
The Heat has a culture unmatched by any other team in the NBA. You can ask any player that plays or played for them. They take pride in their player development dept. And what other team you know that has an off season regimen where they come up with a nutrition and exercise regimen for each player and if you don't reach you goal you won't be allowed to even practice till you do. That's why it's called Heat culture. 305 baby
Those gray Heat jerseys were so fire
New title. HOW MIAMI FINESSES LAKERS ON A REGULAR BASIS
They should really start doing an opening night “who’s out of the league” list. I know it’ll sting a little but hey, it’s a billion dollar business at the end of the day. A lot of these guys we know are out young but I DID NOT know Dion was out of the league by 28 years old. It’d be a cool list/segment for the NBA.
Man youre Videos are so nice, lets make a great come Back
Shhhhhh don't let our secret out
The Miami Heat specifically their culture is like that mom or dad that wants to help you and sees your potential if you follow their instructions you get to reap the rewards. The kids who leave after their tenure because of their bad behavior or got collected by the adaption center cuz of their bad grades will never ever go back and soon realize their mistakes Never stop with the effort, be disciplined, dont slack off or be lazy. Thats the culture i love in Miami
Gilbert arenas was trying to say “there o such thing as heat culture” that’s another one he’s got wrong. What other team builds winning teams with mostly unheard of players. There’s definitely something going on down there. He may not want to call it “heat culture” but the rest of us do. I think that’s why they haven’t pursued some of these players everyone thought they should. Some of them have just made it this far on talent and Riley realizes they don’t want to or just won’t put in the work.
We be selling teams lemons lmao
Tyler Johnson was more of Sean Marks sending poison pill contracts to budding stars. Nets had 0 draft picks and were looking to build direction after Billy King era. He also sent these types of offers to Crabbe, OPJ and (I think) Joe Harris - 4 year deals where the front end was cheap but it paid out heavy the last two yrs. All but Portland matched i think, but we ended up with most of them.
damn i had to google the nunn charge cause i never knew about it. the dude beat a woman up, struck her on the head, then poured hot water on her
Miami is the best organization in the league. The best NBA executive for 20+ years. The best head coach in the league for the last 15 years running. The best GM and salary cap master in the NBA 10+ years running. A laundry list of veterans that are invested into the organization, like Alonzo Mourning, Shane Battier and Udonis Haslem. There isn’t a more better run organization in the NBA. Proud to be a Miami local and Heat Lifer.
As a long -time Heat fan, I'll try to summarize why they signed these players: Tyler Johnson because Mickey Arison, of all people, wanted, not Riley and he was vocal about it which is unheard of for the quiet Arison. and Hassan Whiteside, got LAZY after he signed that contract. The hunger that drove him from the G league was not there anymore. In short, the Heat spartan structure which developed these players, mostly wont work outside, and the exception is Strus (so far).
tyler Johnson is like the professor ngl😅
Sounds like a well run organization to me. Same reason guys took pay cuts to stay in New England. Structure helps people
Getting free agents is all well and good, but last year’s champs built their team almost entirely through the draft
Let’s talk about who’s up next rather the past. We need a diamond in the rough to go along side They young core. We need sure relevance after reaching the finals almost on an every year basis.
I forgot bout Johnson. Ain’t heard that shi in a min 😭😭
My dad and I watched Nunn throughout his rookie season, and it was obvious he was NOT a star in the making. 😂😂 I'm not shocked at all he's already out of the NBA honestly.
I agree...his numbers were good but he was one of those guys you practically didn't notice on the floor.
He usually popped off vs teams under .500
@@steven2145 His shot was just ugly to look at too.
He was really selfish and was a undersized 2 guard who really couldnt playmake
Contracts should not be guaranteed and should be performance and incentives based to fully qualify and receive the full amount of their salary month after per season.
Luol Deng and Joe Johnson both had a good season in Miami, then got big deals in free agency and instantly fell off
A third of the way through the video and I haven't heard about Justice....
Vincent, Nun, Johnson, Cole, Chalmers, white side, so many examples of players leaving Miami to disappear.
You're missing one major factor here Treese, probably the biggest factor in truth. That is that players want to play in Miami because it is Miami and when a player is motivated by such things, they tend to practice that much harder to remain where they want to remain rather than being shipped off to a team like the Timberwolves or Jazz where few players want to live/play. We have heard it for years in all major leagues (NFL, MLB, and NBA), players want to play and live in Miami. So that is a major factor in their output in my opinion.
Trevor Ariza was starting for them back in the bubble lol
Pj Tucker too. Has had his career year here but chose to sign w philly the next season lol
PJ wanted to retire with the Heat, but he was surprised that Philly gave him a big contract despite him being past his prime now. Obviously, the wise choice would be to take as much money as he can before he finally and inevitably retires. I can’t really blame PJ for that, and I admire the contributions he made when he played for the Heat.
The dude won a championship as a starter. He was incredible for that Bucks defense. He did just fine for himself!
Also Philly just knows how the suck the life out of any career. Look what happened to Horford when he went there for a year, people thought he was washed. Finds himself back in Boston then they go to the Finals. He had a lot of juice left. Hopefull Nurse can change the soul crushing ways of Philly
"Just wait till Nunn gets heathy"
Gabe and Kendrick to the Lakers 😂. All hype, nothing else. I don’t even think I saw Gabe play yet
It's Erik Spolstra who knows how to use their potential with the support of Legend Pat Riley..
I’m a magic fan but I’ve love watching the Heat since Riley went up and Spo to Head coach. That pairing is good.
That Whiteside situation was the worse because the Heat left D Wade hanging to resign Whiteside smh
Can’t believe bro didn’t even mention Mario Chalmers
Not sure Gabe Vincent should be on this list as bro got injured almost immediately after arriving in LA. Time will tell.
That's the big problem with Maimi,they gave Johnson,50 million,than they gave Whiteside,100 million,then they gave Duncan 90 million then Lowry 90 million now they gave Herro,130 million. That is Rileys F up,when will they learn not to give players,so much money. Bam is making way too much,38 million,and Buttler 48 million. Right now no Heat player is worth more than 35 million.
Robbing ? Nah 🤦🏾♂️🤣
Other than Johnson, the narrator answers his own questions. Waiters and Nunn had serious lower body injuries, and Whiteside came into his prime in his late 20s early 30s. Gabe Vincent is a reach. He is who we thought he is.
this happens in all sports nobody has tape on the guy so he balls out by the time he makes his rounds around the league he can only hope to survive lol
If the entire NBA was like the Miami Heat the league wouldn't be so soft these days
Everyone blames the money, but Whiteside mentally checked out when Spo started benching him in the 4th quarter for Bam
The three 2016 contracts were a mistake by Riley. Pressured by jump in free agency money. Should have only offered one-year deals and save the money for 2017 free agency.