Actor Jesse Eisenberg and writer/director Richard Ayoade join Jian to discuss "The Double", a new film based on a Dostoevsky novella about a man whose life is upended by another man who looks uncannily like him. In a surprisingly lighthearted interview about the darkly surreal movie, Eisenberg and Ayoade reflect on the humour in existential crises, the cultural resonance of feeling invisible, and the dynamic tension between two dopplegängers who are not strictly good or evil.
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i love how much jesse loves richard.
Love or admire ? He is one of the most charismatic men without a doubt.I did notice that as well from other interviews and I guess he really loved working with him ..I saw an interview with a famous reporter and it wsa very akward ,and I guess he just touched on it in this interview where it is tough if you dont like the person
Right? I love the way he looks at Richard with complete adoration in this interview. I saw other interviews they did together for _The Double_ and it's always obvious how much he likes and admires him (and finds him funny!).
He loves Richard because he’s so hilarious, creative and intelligent. Excellent interview. Very well prepared.
@Breeze I love how much you love how much he loves how much Jesse loves Richard
Who could blame him?
British comedians are on another level. No script written jokes, just pure comedy.
The interviewer is actually great. He got a lot out of them when compared to other interviews. He made them feel somewhat comfortable and actually challenged some of their responses
this didn't age well
@@rigsby1454 why not?
@@rigsby1454 I don't think so I still enjoy it
He's Canada's answer to Harvey Weinstein.
@@rigsby1454 how do you mean?
at 22:58 Richard watches Jesse so lovingly even I blushed
Jesse totally has a man-crush on Richard and his demeanor is indicative of such. He's intimidated by Richard's intellect and expository abilities. The man [Ayoade] is so gracefully articulate and at his age, it will be remarkable to watch his career blossom.
Xi bar Jesse's intelligent too, but yes, I think he loves Richard's articulation.
CookieMonstaHG Totally agreed Jesse Eisenberg is one of the most intellectual actors on the scene, but you can tell he is hanging on Ayoadé's every word. :)
Beyond saying quaint words with unexpected conviction, what does he actually do?
I can't think of a more articulate and naturally humorous human being, That nasally voice and luxuriant hair send tingles to the nether regions of every woman on the planet.
YourPalHDee, niceee.
YourPalHDee Oh Harry, so poetic
He has the......striaghtest........ teeth XD
There was one guy that slagged him offcalling him ugly ,he was quickly attacked by others and myself ,like you say as I said a few minutes ago..A very charmiong man ..But I also feel I would not like to be on the wrong side of him
I do believe everyone has a crush on Richard, how could you not? I've been watching him for years, he's so, so funny. I love his nerd act. He's also great as the gadget man, I love the way he can make Noel Fielding, laugh on game shows. Their all really awesome, I love the British. They don't have a problem with political correctness.
Norma Trimble I have the biggest crush on Richard. Dostoyevsky IS funny and I can’t wait to see The Double
I agree with everything in your comment except that the nerd is an act, I`ve never seen or even heard rumor of him breaking character because it`s really who he is , obviously he hams it up sometime.s but it feels like his comedy is the funny guy who protects the sensitive nerd within, no act
nerd "act"
Things have changed politically.
I figured out what's going on with Jesses articulation! He has an obvious crush on Richard and is so consumed in listening to him that whenever he's asked anything he is befuddled and can't find his pace. When he had more time to talk he picked himself up. This is also visible in another interviev with them where Jesse was just giggling flantically all the time.* *This is a joke, please don't take it seriously.
lol
he's not alone
Absolutely adore this interview - Ayoade at his wittiest. Think the interviewer did a great job with his questions and with dealing with Ayoade. A lesser interviewer could have taken offence or been awkward but this guy was happy to challenge him. He also did a nice job giving both Ayoade and Eisenberg time to speak.
I agree, brilliant interview. Shame it took me this long to come across it
I actually thought Richard dropped out of his witty persona quite often here. He so rarely talks about his process at all. But still quite funny and enjoyable yes
Once again Ayoade kills it! The man's a master!
is it weird that i looove the awkward, nerdish way jesse talk ? i mean i could literally hear him stutter n blubber for the rest of my life n just stare in aww !! richard.. no words.. moss
Both Richard and Jesse seem to appreciate how thoughtful the interviewer's questions are.
My screen time is leading me to everything Ayoade just now. I feel as if my intellect is being elevated just by listening to him being interviewed. What an extraordinary amusing man. He is also being drawn into interviews that appreciate this level of thinking.
Love these guys. Such an intelligent conversation
virtualpigmaster So rare, huh?
Richard Ayoade is a great director i hope he comes back to the directors chair again as this was his last film.
I love how Richard Ayoade can see humor in something dar
Great interview! Must get Ayoade on the show again in the future!
Had to stop this after 4 1/2 minutes to actually watch the film!
After first watching The Double, I had no clue what happened, but I remember thinking "Wow, someone really put a lot of care into that."
This has to be my favourite interview; I always end up coming back to it.
Yonas Campbell same. I've watched it so many times.
Richard Ayoade does not say 'uhh' or 'umm' when he's talking which I find impressive. Until someone mentioned to me that he says 'you know' alot. *glass breaks* Now I keep hearing that word from him eventhough he does not necessarily use it a lot when he talks.
I read your comment just as he said "um"
Oh no, now that's all I notice too
'you know' means something whereas um/uh do not, they are simply filler.
@@samaraisnt Nah, "y'know" is also a filler. I say it a lot and it rarely means anything. Also, there's nothing wrong with filler words and I have no idea why everyone's so bothered by them. It's no different to a pause in which to gather your thoughts.
3 delightful and intelligent people coming together to create an extremely interesting interview. Restores a small amount of credibility to the species.
Well. 2.
This was a great interview. I gotta go back and watch the double again. I remember seeing a picture of it and being intrigued because it was Jesse Eisenberg, but at the same time wondering why I had not heard about it before seeing the picture. I then watched it and, to me, it was one of the most note-worthy films that year. It was so different... I think I watched The Zero Theorem around the same time, which was also extremely different compared to any other films. Loved both of them because of how unique they were. It was refreshing. I wish Ayoade and Eisenberg decides to work together again some day :)
They seemed quite taken with each other, so I don't think that's out of the realm of possibility.
Holy Toledo, this was an incredible interview. I love this interviewer, he is just bringing out the best in Richard and Jesse, wow, thank you!!
Richard Ayoade, proof that social anxiety can make you endearing, Jesse hanging on his every word. is he ever going to age beyond 76 he always says its his age.
That was incredible to watch.
Richard really just makes jokes for himself. If others laugh it’s a bonus, but that’s not the true purpose.
Yes, I think introverts perform for themselves and what others gain from it is irrelevant to us. I certainly entertain myself (often laugh with or at myself as I feel the situation demands), act to my own standards, dress to my own standards etc
It takes confidence to do that though, that all introverts might not necessarily have. U have to rlly not give af no matter how ppl react. That doesn’t come naturally to ppl I don’t think, cause we’re socialised into having manners, being polite, etc.
Riiight? He's almost disappointed, when people get his jokes.... Lolzz
Great interview, Ayoade is a national treasure and I love Eisenberg in many roles and as an actor. Can't wait to see where these blokes go in the future.
0:49 It's so weird to see Richard smiling while talking
I've seen interviews with Jessein which he didn't use so many filler "likes". It's weird. However, he 's still very intelligent and articulate. Richard is great. I can't wait to see the movie.
Wow, I had no idea Ayoade had anything to do with the film... It was already on my radar because I love Eisenberg, but I'll definitely have to watch it soon. Speaking of Jesse... personally I think he's a brilliant actor, I can see why people wouldn't really like him but I find him incredibly engaging, charismatic and watchable. It's really interesting to see how awkward and ineloquent he can be - he's obviously highly intelligent and insightful, but he seems to have difficulty getting the words out. I totally get what he meant about liking the prescribed nature of acting; he wouldn't end up saying 'like' as often, for one thing. And I mean no disrespect there - most of us might like to think we're good speakers, but... we're not.
I know this was a year ago, but Submarine as well. I love RA from The IT Crowd. This is the longest Ive seen him be serious. The interviewer did a good job considering the two's disposition and inert humility.
Such a wonderfully endearing interview. Greatly enjoyable!
Jian, what a boss! Love his show, Ayoade is a most welcome guest too. Legends
The perfect match: Simon Anstell and Richard Acolade.
If you found Richard Ayoade funny, then you must watch the IT Crowd; fantastic stuff
ThatGaming Bloke Better yet.. Garth Marenghi's Darkplace and season 2 of The Mighty Boosh
Instant Unicorn what’s wrong with season 1 of the boosh?
@@willbournerv2259 There is No Ayoade in it
His first film as director, Submarine, is also excellent as are his books.
He's even funnier in person. So witty and articulate.
Piccadilly Circus: where we all congregate to sing Mary Poppins. I about died 😂 But this is the most INTERESTING and enlightening interview I've seen of Ayoade yet
enjoyable watch after watching the great The Double
Really good interview, interesting to listen to!
"I always wanted to be J. Mascis" nearly shat myself. How many more reasons do I need to love Richard Ayoade? Dinosaur Jr. is one of my favorite bands of all time.
I just close my eyes and imagine Onion and Blu having a modest conversation and it's so surreal and amazing.
Great job all three
The double as a spring break film would be worth a watch
Unlinke some I loved Jesse's awkwardness because I feel like this al the time. If I were to do such an interview I would be like totally tripping over like every word as well. Also the super charismatic, ararticulate perfect celebrity gets really boring really fast and it's not all that relatable to most people.
The Double This movie is 💯 Art
Richard keeps mentioning the fact that he is 79 in every interview he does, strange?
Because he’s 79
@@willbournerv2259 exactly
Yeah. Really "strange". A comedian sticking to his jokes? "Strange". If that's strange to you? Then you are going to have a mind-bending life.
@@joedent3323 I was making a joke. Not a good one, but a joke.
@@glitch373 fair enough.
the interviewer kept interrupting them both as they stutter just before they were to say something interesting, very annoying.
I agree
I`d love to watch Jesse Eisenberg trying to pick up Letterman at a bar, they should make a movie about that , lol.
What a great interviewer
It would've been great to hear Richard and Jesse without the interviewer constantly interrupting them and feeding them answers through long-winded, leading questions where he had clearly decided for them what they felt already.
"I would look on my feet" hahahah 8:03
Eisenberg edits his expressions rapidly & perhaps heavily, to the extent whereby he holds back the finished thought process, not expressing it verbally as a completed form, couched in prescribed formal terms. Ayoade edits himself 'on the hoof' too, quite heavily but he redresses and rephrases the context & we hear him take apart his edits- expressed as humour. The two of them perpetually disassociate themselves from certainty, preferring ambiguity and allusive indirectness. Dostoevsky's persona & to some extent his probable bi-polarity, coloured his expressions similarly. Eisenberg & Ayoade are both Dostoevsky. That or the gold particles in this vodka are not truly tiny fairies. Anyone for a game of cards?
Great observation and insight :)
Wkanker.
14:28 I knew what he meant he’s so clever in the way he delivers
An interesting way to refract the difference between British and American comedy. Stephen Fry has touched on this.
I couldn't help but notice that the interviewer has the same headphones as me ^_^ AKG K 240 MK II. Love Richard, best humor ever =D
Fantastic interview. Very insightful interviewer, clearly did his research and challenged them more than the usual junket fare. The only thing that kept bugging me was the mic position. Clearly the guest would want to face the host, so that’s where the mic should be. The mic was in the front though, so richard would end up being off mic whenever he tried to speak to the host.
I thought that was classic Richard (subconsciously) trying to avoid being so public. "Seriously, I have no publicist" 🤣
This is fvcking amazing.
Que guapo es el richard ayoade este chico si que es guapo por que me gusta muchooo y le quiero muchoooo
How does the CBC keep any interviews conducted by this guy?
Has anyone counted how many times Eisenberg says 'like'?
I have to say that I like Jesse Eisenberg more, after this interview, simply because he clearly enjoys Richard Ayoade at least as much as I do...
i've never known anyone to have so closely my views and be able to articulate them; on top of that the interviewer says he thinks most people dont understand and that he thinks he might be confused. im dismayed.
I just watched a clip of Richard doing stand-up in 2003 and didn't laugh once in four minutes but when he is humble I find him more interesting. I missed the boat on his humor and can't figure why. He would be the only reason I watch this movie, though.
Mitch Weiner That clip is the only thing I've seen with him where he wasn't funny. I guess he was trying, there, whereas lately, he's funny because he is not, just being himself.
The Ayoade charm.
The interviewer just wasn't on their wave length and just didn't get it. Richard is right. Comedy can be in everything. You can still get serious stuff done whilst using humour at all times. Life is too short to be serious. The only thing I take seriously is happiness.
I agree with you. I think the interviewer buys into the idea given us by psychology - that people use humor as a defensive tactic - and wasn’t on board with Richard’s response to his questions about comedy. Pity. He missed out.
@@PomegranateStaindGrn Totally agree. The interviewer didn't understand he was dealing with a modern day Oscar Wilde here n he just wasn't quick witted enough to reciprocate any kind of decent banter, n didn't understand irony enough to be on the same page. I mean it's not his fault. He's just not wired that way, but Interviewers are renowned to try n eek out a serious side to Richard, n I think it's almost become a game for him to evade, which makes him even funner. But loved it when Richard said the worst thing you can think is that there's a direct correlation between merit n success. So true.
@@PomegranateStaindGrn I think it's possible that Richard does use humour as deflection but as he says it's just not important; it's irrelevant. He, the interviewer, also implies that Jesse uses acting as an escape - another pop psychology perspective; happily Jesse, tho not entirely coherent, managed to convey that it is far more complex for him than that. The question is, did the interviewer do this deliberately in order to invoke more of a response? Because that's what happened
@@susie9893I think you’re on to something. The interviewer used contradiction to get deeper responses.
Richard Ayoade is hilarious
Perfect match ever....
For some reason this film reminds me of "Bartleby".
Richard is my Crush !
"I wanted to be J Mascis". Me too Richard, but now I just want to be you.
God, of course he loves him!
Jesse's double has appeared on never mind the buzzcocks 😉 , yes! You know who I mean lol
Richard Ayoade is what Woody Allen aspired to be.
I found this an interesting reference bcos if I'm a fan of anyone it would be Ayoade and definitely don't see myself as a Woody fan at all BUT I do love the atmosphere of Allen films - the way he shoots things like it's real life. (Whedon did this for Firefly too - it's a great approach)
woody allen comment was a pretty big bummer
Yeah, I'm not really keen on people who are fans of pedophiles either.
Flo Antonia I agree, altho in fairness to richard he does expand on his feelings about allen in his appearance on adam buxton’s podcast. He ofc acknowledges the allegations and discusses the difficulty between separating the artist and their work etc. I just wish he would acknowledge it, even briefly whenever he mentions his adoration of his work.
RIDICULOUS comment. You can admire artistic works of the past exclusive to the alleged wrongdoings of the creators.
Wish I had a dollar for every time Jesse says "Like".
Ooo maaan of that fuy would make notes from underground or the steppenwolf.. Or both
I don't know who the interviewer is, I just search for Richard, but when the interviewer talks all I hear is the tears of dead children. Interesting.....
Jesse is the character in real life that Ayoade feigns
Say what you will about Jian, but he was one hell of an interviewer. Not that that excuses anything. Flawed people can do great things as well.
12:21-12:45 Only way I know how to live. Any shred of seriousness is unbearable.
Richard, the interviewer said "You're looking very collegial', not collegiate. I am surprised he didn't catch that. I am still crushing on you, sorry.
I'm probably the 800th person, but the thumbnail's spelled/spelt incorrectly. Nice interview though :)
I personally was only able to see the bleakness in the film, I haven't read the book he's referring to, so that could be why I couldn't find the humour in it? Or my sense of humour is wired a bit differently to Richards.
The thumbnail... Ayoade*
Ji Ji JI JIanges!
10 minutes left, and I'm starting to wonder, if the interviewer even knows about The Mighty Boosh?? 🤔🤔🤔
I’m an actor in the sense I make sounds with my face. 🤣
Hey did you go faster faster I mean I don't know how to style no
It's interesting. Richard Ayoade is saying that, very often, British comedians, "end up", doing comedy whereas LOTS of American comedians set out to do comedy and have for decades. That's an interesting cultural difference,
Lee Harvey Oswald and Kerry Thornley!!! Now THAT'S Funny! IMHO
Jesse sure is nervous here
That would be down to his OCD and social anxiety
WelshDragon75 it would much more than likely just be down to his social anxiety, not his ocd
14:16 SO CUTE
J Mascis is in this film.
It's "Ayoade", not "Ayode".
Give it like 15, 20 years and Jesse Eisenberg will be playing Jordan Peterson in a biopic
The first 20 mins is almost all Richard. Then 3 or 4 mins of jesse. Just saying.
I’d like to see a movie with these three trying to change a flat tire on a car 😊
How embarassing of cbc to get Richards name wrong
Believe it or not, both Richard and Jesse are INTP. Richard has managed better than most INTP to turn it outward and actually express himself, using his sarcastic wit and self-deprecation.
Just looked at their birth charts.. they are almost identical but Ayoade has a little more fire as a virtue than Jessie has as a shadow aspect.. which explains the respect. Both are extremely grounded practical with a strong belief in long consistent work providing good results but unusually they have a thread of water 'courage to explore inner emotion and spiritual themes' they obviously use this in their work.. Amazing personalities. They really are doing the right vocations. I'm so impressed
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Eisenberg has a veritable problem constructing sentences and having his ideas straight . The repartee would have been much more interesting and rich.