"SA Constitution must be rewritten": Race and the law, threats to Black advocates, ANC failures
Join SMWX for a thought-provoking conversation with legal and political thinker and activist Advocate Muzi Sikhakhane. In this episode, we explore the South African Constitution and its impact on South African politics.
We also delve into his experience representing some controversial figures and the unique criticism he and other Black advocates face. Finally, we take a critical look at the South African Constitution and its effectiveness in post-apartheid South Africa, and the possibility of rewriting it to build a post-ANC democracy.
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CONTENTS
00:00 - Intro
02:00 - Threats and Intimidation
10:30 - Race & Law
23:30 - The SA constitution
29:30 - Rewriting SA constitution
49:00 - Building a new society
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Credits:
On behalf of Arts Sake Productions:
DOP and Editor - Tumelo Makau Sound and Camera Assistant - Bongani Nkosi Camera Assistant - Lesego RakobaneProduction Assistant - Kgothatso Senne Producer - Tsholanang Rapoo
About me: Dr Sizwe Mpofu-Walsh is an author, scholar and founder of the Sizwe Mpofu-Walsh Xperience (SMWX), a digital, youth-centred current affairs platform. He holds a DPhil in International Relations from the University of Oxford and is a Lecturer in International Relations at Wits.
Every South African who take themselves serious must watch this interview 👌🙌
You forgot to add "Every Black South African"
WITHOUT MORAL LEADERS, YOU CAN CHANGE THE CONSTITUTION TILL YOU BLUE IN THE FACE. REST OF AFRICA DOES NOT HAVE THE CONSITUTION AND LOOK AT THEM AND THEIR POVERTY. THESE KINDS OF PEOPLE NEVER WANT TO FACE THE ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM, WHICH IS CORRUPTION AND GREEDY LEADERS. EASTERN EUROPEANS ARE WHITE AND THEY STRUGGLING WITH POVERTY BECAUSE OF CORRUPT LEADERS. I AM TIRED OF LISTENING TO NONSENSE BEING DRIBBLED AS TO WHY COUNTRIES ARE NOT PROGRESSING.
Obani bona bayeke ukuphuzutshwala
i differ What amazes me with Skhakhane he goes to the same courts to represent people fighting the fundamental of this democracy.... He goes to court and fight the same principles he stands on outside the court... 'i'm for the constitution when i am not on the job and making money, and i am against the constitution when i am making millions" Cowardice
@@ruebenmpho1909 forsure
Advocate Sikhakhane performs a sober and surgical dissection of the tragedy of South African (and African) society. His solutions are both radical and progressive. Great show, Sizwe
Love your play of words we are in icu as a private company .
@@phumudzolordrickmoyosnr9766 thank you so much
Yes, my brother! Only these can lead Africa from its political quagmire. Unfortunately they don't stand for political office.
Prof PLO Lumumba once said, 'africa does not have engineers but Assemblers' and Adv Sikhakhane is saying we have not built anything in 30 years. Now I understand why. Great conversation 👌 👏
Indeed! Black folks globally have become consumers of white status symbols such as commodified products that are highly associated with our desire to have proximity to whiteness. Thus, our inability to go inward and create for us and by us in the socioeconomic and sociopolitical spaces!
Freedom can only come from the oppressed, it can't be negotiated with the oppressor. Well put 😊
So true,
Adv Sikhakhane you are a true embodiment of courage to shine and represent the black identity well.
"A black person who tolerates the suffering of others" Adv. Skhakhane, my favourite South African 🖤✊🏿
He is the most woke professional black Advocate I have listened to. He dropped bombs like Hiroshima. Calling the three hands of government to resign, is the best way of clearing up a well tranqualized country.
Yandikhalisa loo piece 😢
This interview is actually a book to be published for Black South Africans! I am so impressed that we have such a Thinker that I was not aware of as a Thinker myself!
Sir Muzi Sikhakhane is arguably is the most mentally liberated black legal practitioner in Mzansi. He utters wisdom whenever he opens his mouth. One can tell he always speaks from an informed point of view and has mastered the art of bringing his thoughts across. Thanks Dr Sizwe for such an insightful interview.
Don't limit him with colour most liberated Legal practioner
I cried while listening to this interview😭😭😭😭. This interview deserves 60millions views every South African should watch this
Black consciousness lecture 🙌
Sizwe you have had so many seminal moments on your show. This is by far the most breathtaking for me. I've always longed for a reawakening of a South African child for the betterment of all Africa. Thank you to the Advocate for his bravery.
This was an amazing one.
"Elections has never produced freedom" Best quote ever😇
'Its better to starve in dignity than to eat in shame" Jesus that one hits hard.
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Our leaders are eating in shame and they don't care.
When I heard that line.. Tears just covered my eyes😭😭. I sense a wave of resurrection of morals and good will.
Easier said than done...there is no dignity in poverty!
@@SomethingNicewithDinano There's no dignity in selling black souls for a salary. The reason why the system exist is because of those who are selling our revolution to the devil.
going to watch this 10 more times, and get my sister, brother, mother, farther , relatives and friends to watch this. Our people need to be conscientised and made to understand that this situation the black man /child finds themselves in in this country is not normal. i also feel the line the advocate added there when he said " the black child cannot see beyond just employment as he/she sees himself as a worker" hit me the hardest. Those who operate in the middle class believe they have risen above the struggle of the black child yet they neglect to understand that even in those offices it sits with them and will consistently affect them as the system was designed to keep a certain group in power while we settle for crumbs. Most of all our people , especially those of means should definitely take cognizance of the advocates words " you will never be free until all of us are free"
Yeah, but you misconceive the word ALL. It does not mean BLACK. Apartheid was a despicable system that deprived blacks of being treated as equals. However, 'victimhood' deprives you of BEING EQUAL; irrespective of how you are treated. APARTHEID IS DEAD, LONG LIVE APARTHEID is the cry of every person who rejects equality and freedom for ALL. 'Economic freedom' is a lie that is used by the wealthy to manipulate and control the masses. Freedom cannot be bought, it lives in the spirit of TRUTH, LOVE AND BROTHERHOOD.
You can't be a Mageba and not be articulate and wise😊❤❤ dankie wakitsi
Huh, how is South Africa any different from other African countries. You actually think the situation in SA is not normal. Corruption is normal across Africa hence SA is no different. I live in the UK and guess what there is the imbalance of employer verses employee and taht is across the colour line. Get ethical leaders and you will see progress.
Eff said it today in the LGBTQ march against Uganda s Museveni s anti Homophobic rights,that "we not free until all of us are free" Again this kinda info is only seen by people with wifi and access to internet,so government is doing this intentionally so that the can feed our people their narrative.Very sad 😢 We need to retheorise everything
Yet there are millions of Africans fleeing here and doing business here because they cannot do so in their own Africa countries 😆😆 People here already used to get something for nothing ...
Advocate Sikhakhane is my personal hero and a hero for all SAns.There needs to be a new Constitution and a new way for SA to become a real democracy for all of us.Great interview Sizwe,siyabonga kakhulu wena wezulu eliphezulu 🇿🇦🙏
I don’t know why, Mara I’m encouraged by this conversation. The bravery to tell the truth at such a high level is needed. There is hope afterall.
One of the foremost thinkers SA has ever produced. We do not appreciate him enough. Thank you Sizwe and your team for ensuring that now and then we drank from this well of wisdom. Enkosi Hlubi.
As a South-African, this is by far the best interview/conversation I've watched in my entire life, Adv. Skhakhane's words sound so shallow and calm, yet it's way deeper than poetry. Much gratitude for this episode.🙏
I agree with you wholeheartedly.I applaud you for not withholding praise where it is due.I'm very fascinated by adv.Skhakhan's discussion and elaborate explanation of his facts.
@@mncedimbambani1524 all his words and the examples he used is what I try to tell a lot of people that crossed my path but ignorance is bliss. A yt person might say he's 'carist'(I swopped c&r), but as I mentioned, about the depth of this topic, people needs to be educated first to understand.
What do you mean his “words sound so shallow”? 🤔 perhaps I missed the context.
I've been wondering why he's not yet been honored with honourary doctracte as yet by any institution of higher learning in SA.
@@siyabulelaklaasen2136 me too
This podcast needs to be shown to young scholars and even their educators so we can cleanse the minds which have been captured and unknowingly corrupted. Thank you Sizwe for this show. ❤
AMEN
100%
As a young scholar I agree
I'm the Physical Sciences and Mathematics teacher, and I'm showing them these videos on weekends extra-classes. Unfortunately loadshadding messes with our schedule
I'm much wiser now
Sizwe, you're the son of the soil !!! As an Advocate myself literally without work, I salute what you're doing !!! Fight on and bring on eminent members of our profession to talk on our behalf !!!
Adv Skhakhane is phenomenal . He’s so smart . I’m forever grateful and excited to hear his thoughts and how he views this and that . Very articulate and eloquently .
What an eye opener thank you Sir!
I just cried when listening to Adv Skhakhane.. Nothing but the truth!!❤
Adv Sikhakhane hits hard everytime he speaks.💪💪❤️ I hope to meet him one day.
“Law is just politics dominated by a powerful classes.”I have never thought of it in that way but it make so much sense .Thank you Adv Sikhkahane Sc
Powerful class with deep pockets.
It makes so much sense, a well orchestrated plan
That statement is true if we are foolish enough to believe it. If we were to truly understand the POWER of the Constitution and the law, then we would realise that they allows us to end the political domination of the corrupt - including the judiciary.
You're right Mr Skhakhane, how can a country that fought for so long against racism, still has not made it a serious crime to be racist? How can there be places that are no go area for black people like Orania?
Who said Orania is a no go for blacks? You are spreading fake news. Go there and find out for yourself. SMWX seeking populism?
You can go to Orania nobody can prevent you from going there. You will have to identify yourself at the gate like ALL other security complexes and also be invited by somebody living there. If that is racism then all other complexes is "racist" even those in black areas.
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Both Monasteries and Orania segregate themselves, Orania Citizens cannot even be accused of labour misdemeanours, not against Black People anyway, simply because they employ their own or do what needs to be done themselves. Homelands cosmetically renamed TRUSTLands suck Tax funds from SARS to pay Traditional Leaders, Orania PAYS more to SARS than TrustLands do and they don't demand SA Tax Monies in exchange for votes for the ANC.
@@nedor64 no complexes in townships
I enjoy listening to you Advocate Muzi😢
Imagine having this legal guru as our chief justice! Thanks so much for this interview Sizwe
The constitution must be re-written🤞🤞, and all of these evergreen contracts must be ended.
I'm short of words,I don't know where to start but Advocate Skhakhane is a real man, ORIGINAL
Coming with his intellectual knuckles bare, Advocate Skhakhane had no intention of taking any prisoners. Thank you both for a great show!
Thank you Dr Mpofu and to you Adv Skhakhane WOW.......The best Interview im crying.
"Poverty is violence"-Advocate Muzi Sikhakhane.
Watch how violent crimes are going to increase with the economy being in recession. We saw this during lock down & the July unrest we have plenty of examples to draw lessons from both in the present & the past, both locally and internationally.
any mistreatment is violence so why did mafiba and tutu let this madness continue.
How can anyone listen and deny what this brilliant man is saying?
Practically impossible
Very easily, One simply needs to be invested in denying it. We often times underestimate the levels of idiocy one will use when they're invested in making sure you're wrong & they're right.
Ramaphosa’s followers would
why is the great man not on every black platform not just in Africa but across the black world? I am lost for more words to describe the way I'm feeling right now having watched this interview. I'm going to watch it again and again and again and share this with everyone I know. Thanks you for brining this great man to us.
Please host this man again! I share the same sentiments with Sizwe, this is by far the best dialogue on his podcast.
"They will never be free until we are free" Thank you very much for that statement it has open my eyes. I have never looked at it like that, thank you for educating us ,we need more people like you sir
ALL HAVE BEE FREE SINCE 1994. AFFIRMATIVE action AND bee HAVE BEEN AROUND NOW FOIR 30 YEARS !! sO STOP COMPLAINIUNG AND GET OFF YOUR ASSES AND HELP YOURSELVES YOU HAVE THE aa/bee ALREADY OR ARE YOU TOO stupid !
I guess we should not allow them tobe free until we are. And that will demand a high level of aware 0of self and the true, hidden elements of the status quo.
Advocate Muzi Sikhakhane is the best❤
Adv Sikhakhane does not comfort with a lie. He speaks truth and it's only truth that will lead us to true liberation.
This interview opens up a debate I've been waiting for; re-writing South African Constitution
This right here is what SA needs. This interview has to be included in the history books and our kids have to be made to listen to this. Amazing, poignant, revolutionary and absolutely powerful individual. Yesterday I was crying for this beloved country but today I'm encouraged to continue fighting. We thank God for Adv Sikhakhane and his ideals. Aluta continua
We need this courage in our leaders. May God protect Advocate Muzi Sikhakhane
Long live shakiness Long live
That's the honest truth.
I have just been schooled on‘black consciousness’. First time coming across Adv. Skhakhane’s one-on-one profile interview, Im still in awe! 👌🏼👌🏼👌🏼
"Democracy without justice, is hypocrisy" ....This was so good! Thanks Sizwe for pushing these conversations forward, and creating this platform. We so need this! Forward! ✊
Thank you Sizwe for bringing this great mind, by the way he has some undeniable dignity more like the two ZCC Church Leaders. There's truly a lot of work that must be done to getting our country to work.
Another thought provoking episode. Thank you Dr Sizwe and your Guest. Powerful stuff. God bless
Very powerful interview I'm speechless but EFF is preaching this daily... I hope my beloved people will rise up one Day
No its not
He spoke so eloquently about the system of our country and how i wish the incoming president can surround himself/herself with such knowledgeable people ❤
This is why I subscribed to your channel! Awesome man... we need to change our trajectory to the promised land!
One of the best interviews I have watched. I felt like I was in a Masterclass of some sought🙌👏
I'm probably going to watch this again and again. So intellectually stimulated. Thanks for this engagement.
Thanks to Advocate for excellent input of what needs to change, lets our leaders are listening. This has also left me with a task of serious self examination, we desperately need to magnify this conversation across the RSA and broader African society.
Great video, thank you for sharing! Advocate Muzi Sikhakhane is truly a remarkable leader who has made a significant impact in the legal field. His passion for justice and his unwavering commitment to fighting for the rights of the marginalized is truly inspiring. Keep up the good work!
|•He is a library and school of thought a black child needs• Superior logic 🫡•wouldn’t mind having him again and again and just lean and learn as we grow •|
What real solution did he offer rather than populist rhetoric? Hitler did the same.
@@ronniewilliams5205 And there's always people like you... People who hate progress. Did you even watch the whole thing?
I am happy that more and more black leaders and great legal minds like Ntate Muzi Sikhakhani are more expressive about this. Our people need change and to be attended to economically before it is too late. Thank you Sizwe for this brilliant interview.
Adv. Sekhakhane, you are analysing SA problems and solutions intelligently, We pray that God protects you against those who wants to silence you.
Lets make this Interview go viral. and yes external minds that are not in politics must be the ones leading this conversation
Good one Sizwe, I looking forward to listen to a fearless legal guru. I hope gogo Matshiqi would watch it too.
This is by far the most fulfilling and insightful interview ive ever watched
Thanks for your efforts Sizwe and many thanks to advocate Skhakhane for sharing his thoughts. Political consciousness is the only way we can achieve progressive South Africa. One nation with a unified goal! 🇿🇦 ❤
Just watched it twice back to back. ENTHRALLING.
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I feel like i have been empty in my mind before this interview, i feel like my mind has been operated by someone else rather than me
Confession, I am so ashamed that I just did not like this gentleman because of how the media reports had portrayed him. Watching this and listening to the points made, I can't help but feel a deep sense of sadness and conviction at how we get so easily swayed by the perception created by the media due to their dominance. The same applies to a certain President, liking him (for no reason) was forced down our throats by the media and now its seems like has not surpassed his predecessor as we were made to believe. Hlubi keep it up mhlekazi!
same here fam
It’s good you realised you did wrong
What an Interview Sizwe. Thank you for bringing in Adv. Muzi. He said it as is! I hope this interview attracts many South Africans because it is insightful.
This was explosive! This man is a national treasure! Best conversation / interview I've watched in ages.
What are we doing at schools if we are not taught to think, and build our communities? This is by far one of the most enlightening dialogue that provokes thought and being black. Thank you Sizwe...
Exactly, that is the question I have asked many times
You’re at school to get a job.
No one can teach you how to think. The way you think is formed by your background. Your mind is formed by gathering information from first parents, then the bigger circle of the community. No teacher can teach you how to think. I guess you mean critical thinking - that's a skill that's developed. If you don't read as a child, don't play with toys that develop your brain, then how is a teacher going to make you think? If you don't value logic and facts over emotions, then there's no critical thinking.
I feel like people don't fully appreciate how profound the idea of us fully theorizing ourselves and have our distinct philosophy that defines this nation. Without that philosophy we have no direction and our government really is bound to be useless
Dr Sizwe Walsh Mpofu, Please protect this information for the next generation to listen. Advocates Sikhakhane is giving us the greatest lecture with regards to our problems that prevents us from prosperity. Should it happens that we don't make it, the next generation should knew where we did wrong.
I’ve come back to engage with this interview a couple of times since it’s release. I could listen to this man speak all day!
These are the kind of interviews and debates we must have as SA, there's no turning back
Thank you guys for this informative interview👍
Every South African must see this interview & a public discourse must be had around this Ideology!!!!!
This man is brave
Yhooo this gentleman is enlightened to the highest level, him & Dr Lwazi Lushaba🫡🫡🫡👌🏼👌🏼👌🏼! Dankie Sizwe
I can listen to Adv. Sikhakhane the whole day. He is well read👌
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I have never in my life finished an interview and watched it again... WITH IMMEDIATE EFFECT❤
Me and you both...
Am a Zimbabwean and never lived in SA , but every bit of what he said, except names and places, is exactly what is going on in Zimbabwe. This man is nothing but wisdom packed. So brilliant , articulate, and very eloquent. Why foes Africa sideline such people? I salute this honorable. And well done, Sizwe, for such a great interview that not only speaks to SA but to Zimbabwe as well.
Siz is the future 🤞🏾. I already love what he will become in years to come! Thanks to a great interview
This is one of the best interviews on this channel. Honest , thought provoking and just brilliant
I used to not like adv. Muzi till I listened to him, here on your podcast. This man got some powerful advice. We need part 2. I will repeat again & again like I am watching it for first time 🕰️.
This is one of old people we need in our SA Parliament.
Their all old anyway, the problem is, money and power corrupts. And one man cannot make change, as entire parties already call out the government on its bullshit, takes them to court and yet still nothing changes. Sorry to say but this guy would be just as powerless despite what he says.
Another conversation with gravitas. Thanks for the courage and boldness to be critical and constructive of our constitution. 🔥
Great podcast Sizwe, and please extend many thanks to Adv. Sikhakhane for his insightful and thought-provoking views. Its a pity a person of his calibre never makes headlines because of the threat he poses to the establishment. This discussion reminds me of the phrase "Choice is an illusion, created between those with power, and those without." uttered by the Merovingian in The Matrix trilogy. We Black South Africans, we are caught up The Matrix and have been since the Genesis of this so-called "miracle country with the best constitution in the world". Which oddly enough, no country is lining up to learn and adopt its best practices. Thank you.
"The worst from of oppression is the one to which you consent to because you have no viable options."
Looking forward to this session..👌🏾 it's bound to be informative as usual.
What a powerful episode 🙏 its a liberating and honest conversation. Something we lack in South Africa especially in the current state of affairs. Thank you once more
Thank you Advocate. South Africa really need to change the way of thinking, EFF is our only hope now
What a conversation, bravo for putting forth ideas for moving forward! Let's learn from the French Revolution and the Arab Spring
😢wow! This man is throwing nuclear bomb thoughts, straight on point. The spirit of Chris Hani and Steve Biko lives in him
Wernt those guys communists? You know like the current ANC is? Like the current EFF is? you honestly think the same type of political system hasnt burnt us enough already? yeah no thanx
True, just listen to his Narratives very attentively the man speaks from the heart.
Sizwe a riveting conversation that makes one reflect on one’s own standing or contribution to the condition being described by your guest. We need more of these discussions, perhaps it may also be useful to invite members of the political parties mentioned by the speaker. It would be great to hear their views.
The best ever closing summary. Adv Muzi "What I know......."
What a powerful piece of journalism. well done,let's hope people in position to legislate and reform South Africa like the EFF sees this piece of work. Right on time.
This truthful conversation is one of the best SMWX has had..Thank you to all involved.
I become smarter each time I watch this podcast👏🙌💪👌
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keep up the good work Mpofu ,, this is what we need as black people
I am rarely impressed by so called "intellectuals" but I must say, Adv. Skhakhane is an a very intelligent individual. A rare breed indeed. Much love and respect.
Greetings Sizwe and to all who are privileged to share your platform! Writing from the US and absolutely do not wish for your platform to be banned! It would be a huge tragedy! I appreciate hearing all the uncomfortable truths that this courageous Advocate shared. Though the content/ his narrative was SA specific, all that was said can be easily applied to wherever black folks are as the white power structure is a global phenomenon. As I live in the states, I can see that there are parallels between the US post segregation in the late 1950’s to mid-1960’s vis-a-vis the African American community and SA post-Apartheid and now the new Apartheid in your words Sizwe. I learned so much during this thought provoking interview and was wondering if you, Sizwe were prepared to hear the extent of the radical and revolutionary nature of his content. We, as black folks, wherever we are, need to come to terms to the fact that we (often if not consistently) behave in ways that are very destructive to ourselves for short term gains rather than thinking of acting in ways of building wealth intergenerationally for those yet to be born. While watching this interview, I kept juxtaposing an interview heard yesterday done by Penuel with Mandisa Mashego where she also spoke about the dysfunctionality of the 3 branches of SA’s government as well as the generational Karma of low self esteem of black men as co-factors hindering their ability to govern. Again, this inability to rule and create infrastructures by black men for the benefit of the race is not SA specific but a global concern post colonization/slavery up to this post-modernistic age. The Advocate’s narrative was effectively a psychological diagnosis or assessment of our people as well which is well deserved if we ought to deprogram ourselves of our internalized oppression. At any rate, was thinking that it would be a dynamic exchange to have this Advocate in conversation with Mandisa Mashego on your platform. It would be iconic! Would like to expand further on the rewriting of the SA constitution as well as the resignation of the 3 branches of government as, again, these ideas have broad global implications for our race wherever we are. Thank you for expanding the imagination of the commons!
There's also Judge President John Hlophe who is the most hated lawyer in SA because of his stance on racism. Sikhakhane and Hlophe are at their own level of thinking. Please search him and start listening to his interviews. He doesn't have maybe he has one with Insight Factor because no one wants to the uncomfortable truth
That closing should make all of us wake up and see what we are facing as Black South Africans..
This interview is educational and depicts a real and genuine perspective of our beloved republic.
What a brilliant mind advocate Sekhakhane,u are the the best advocate in RSA ❤❤❤.
Worth watching more than twice. Thank you