Machine-Cylinder Smith and wesson model 686 for moon clips

2008 ж. 30 Қаз.
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Machining S&W Model 686 cylinder to accept Full Moonclips in 2008.
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  • I just recently got my 986 back from TK what an amazing job. All internals replaced with actual Performance parts the chamfered cylinder is awesome. Can’t wait to get it out and into some Steel challenge matches.

    @edbigtruck@edbigtruck Жыл бұрын
  • TK Custom did the cylinder on my 460V five inch muzzle brake equipped full lug barrel X-frame revolver. With their stainless steel moon clip for the five round cylinder made for the 45 ACP the moon clip also holds and allows shooting the 460 Rowland, the 45 Super and the 45 Winchester magnum. Very versatile as it still allows the 460 S&W magnum, 454 Casull and the longest factory loaded Taurus Judge and Smith and Wesson Governor 45 Long Colt loadings. And even 45 Schofield if you can find any. An extra long firing pin installed allows all rimmed cartridges to fire reliably without need of a filler moon clip.

    @jeffreylocke8808@jeffreylocke8808 Жыл бұрын
  • Faster loading and much more reliable and faster unloading. Thanks for posting.

    @jeffreylocke8808@jeffreylocke88083 жыл бұрын
  • A Full Moonclip is circular piece of spring steel or stainless steel designed to hold a full cylinder of ammunition for a revolver together as a unit. Therefore, instead of loading one round at a time or using a speedloader, with a Full Moonclip, a full cylinder of ammunition can be loaded and the fired cases are all extracted together as a unit. Thus expediting the revolver loading and unloading process. Unlike a speedloader, a Full Moonclip remains in the revolver during firing.

    @tkcustom@tkcustom15 жыл бұрын
  • I think gunsmithing is one of the most beautiful arts

    @HomeGunMaker@HomeGunMaker6 жыл бұрын
    • Home-Maker: If parts that go into a gun are beautiful, what about parts that go onto a F-14 TomCat jet fighter? Jet fighters are considered "weapons" too.

      @robmacfarlane5864@robmacfarlane58645 жыл бұрын
    • @@robmacfarlane5864 Not quite as intricate or "hands On".... Still beautiful

      @jpb1231000@jpb12310003 жыл бұрын
  • This man has done 3 guns for me, S&W 45LC Mountain Gun, 454 Ruger Alaskan and Ruger Super Red Hawk 454. They shoot 454, 45LC and 45acp. The S&W shoots the 45LC and 45acp. This moon clip setup work wonderful, you won't be disappointed. Soon, I will send my S&W 686 to have the moon clips and a 9mm cut done.

    @raykarl2119@raykarl21195 жыл бұрын
  • This is a cool video, and basically confirmed my thought process on how to do this. Good work sir. Does this add stresses in the cylinder due to the removal of material? Does the lack of support under the rim of the head on the case in the cylinder create any deformations in the brass case when fired, are they reloadable after fired?

    @mr.noneyabidness@mr.noneyabidness3 жыл бұрын
  • I see various opinions about coolant use and machining. This is a demo as stated. Coolant is essential if you want to prolong tool life, the harder the material and higher the cutting speed the more essential coolant is! It also helps huge amounts in quality of product finish as well as swarf removal! Cheers from John.

    @joandar1@joandar110 жыл бұрын
    • This isn’t 100% true. Most of your gun materials shed heat through chips quite well. In this case it’s such a small job there’s not much going on or material removed. But on a lot of these harder alloys In my shop I run them dry with a lot of air to remove chips. And that’s better than dealing with temperature shock created from coolant causing cutters to detoriate faster.

      @thorgren1316@thorgren13163 жыл бұрын
  • Thanks for posting this video. This was very informative.

    @austinbluesman@austinbluesman15 жыл бұрын
  • Best quality video for 2008.

    @beanboi3126@beanboi31265 жыл бұрын
  • Factory headspace is mantained, which supports the cartridge for firing.

    @tkcustom@tkcustom14 жыл бұрын
  • Awesome video! Should have sent my 625 to you when I still had it. Gave up on it too quickly.

    @walnutrd@walnutrd11 жыл бұрын
  • My country is only allowed to have airsoft hand guns. I'd like to ask you, the 686 is 357Magnum Revolver. What ammunition to load with a clip? Will you also replace the barrel?

    @sushiromifune7096@sushiromifune70964 жыл бұрын
  • So that’s why it is neccesry to ship the cykk L Enders to TK Co. very interesting. Thank you.

    @mikeflynn1327@mikeflynn13274 жыл бұрын
  • awesome job

    @ChristianEvolution@ChristianEvolution13 жыл бұрын
  • Ok pls what side size of a bid do u use

    @ChizobaAnsalem-sh2du@ChizobaAnsalem-sh2du7 ай бұрын
  • Do you need to use special autoloader cartridges for speed loaders or can you use normal .357 and .38 cartridges?

    @Makingnewnamesisdumb@Makingnewnamesisdumb12 жыл бұрын
  • Would it be worth doing this to a single action 45lc, to have custom individual c-rings to hold 45acp.

    @sonnybedez7040@sonnybedez70402 жыл бұрын
  • You don't have any Taurus 608 mooncliped video?

    @orelhano@orelhano7 жыл бұрын
  • Can this be done on a Taurus m605 5 shot 357mag ?!

    @amitsukhram2352@amitsukhram23525 жыл бұрын
  • Fantastic job sir thank you 👍👍👍👍👍

    @CHIBA280CRV@CHIBA280CRV2 жыл бұрын
  • nice work.

    @stratocaster1greg@stratocaster1greg11 жыл бұрын
  • Nice work

    @markrorney6702@markrorney6702 Жыл бұрын
  • Do you make your own clips too? I've only seen them for .45 acp.I've got an old S&W 1917(1937 Argentine contract).

    @JohnLeePedimore@JohnLeePedimore11 жыл бұрын
  • These jobs give me that same sinking feeling you get just at the instant a tap "snaps"...

    @clems6989@clems6989 Жыл бұрын
  • Great video!!

    @mikecummings4944@mikecummings49446 жыл бұрын
  • wow , nice job very clean. if you decide to do other guns I would be intrested

    @barstoolguru@barstoolguru13 жыл бұрын
  • Really, really cool!

    @TATVCanada@TATVCanada6 жыл бұрын
  • I have a ruger vaquero that came with a second cylinder that was drilled down to accept 45autos , the cartridge rim rests on the drilled down part. It is called a “special “ by tiger. And it’s not in any of their caaloges, or listed anywhere.

    @jhscheppele2448@jhscheppele24482 жыл бұрын
  • Think maybe you could feed that thing a little harder? There might still be some corners left on that end mill. Also: Chip re-cutting is great for finish, tool life, etc :)

    @Slaytanic454@Slaytanic4547 жыл бұрын
  • how'd you de-burr that, it looks really good.

    @bongzilla138@bongzilla13812 жыл бұрын
  • Great modification

    @fknkewl@fknkewl12 жыл бұрын
  • Nice clean machine work sir! Is this a viable modification for Ruger SP101 handguns?

    @jasonmpd2946@jasonmpd29467 жыл бұрын
    • Jason McKinney yes Gemini Custom does the 101

      @tkcustom@tkcustom7 жыл бұрын
  • Please help me with a question. Why don't they forge it? It is economical. Or they can't forge it?

    @tranhau3818@tranhau38185 жыл бұрын
  • Disculpa quiero un cilindro de calibre 38 . En cuanto lo vendes?

    @deybicarvajal3101@deybicarvajal31015 жыл бұрын
  • I need this done

    @bilzill1@bilzill13 жыл бұрын
  • @tkcustom46 then why is there tape to protect the finish of the cylinder?

    @Duckyistrippin@Duckyistrippin12 жыл бұрын
  • Some rookie machinist is going to see you climb cutting and try it. SNAP

    @todaytriper@todaytriper11 жыл бұрын
  • is it possible to machine a .45acp cylinder for a webley so that you wont have to risk exploding the converted original cylinder?

    @Recon985@Recon98512 жыл бұрын
  • What size endmill and how many RPM? Do you have a video on cutting the ratchets?

    @kenibnanak5554@kenibnanak55547 жыл бұрын
    • 1/4" & 5/16" / RPM now 2017 is 2070. / Must machine ratchet to accept the moonclip.

      @tkcustom@tkcustom7 жыл бұрын
  • Metal composition is as S&W makes it.

    @tkcustom@tkcustom8 жыл бұрын
    • Esse tambor de se 38 é feito de qual de qual peça

      @damiaoalmeida8606@damiaoalmeida86066 жыл бұрын
    • Good

      @ataburaltabur6677@ataburaltabur66776 жыл бұрын
    • tk custom store

      @PawanThakur-dq4uk@PawanThakur-dq4uk6 жыл бұрын
    • TK-Custom 4

      @ekosunu1214@ekosunu12145 жыл бұрын
  • @rmedwards18 He's likely doing it strictly for demo. If he was running coolant it would splatter all over the camera, etc. I am surprised he was running such high speed and feed also....but he was using nitrided cutting bits. He was removing such small amounts of tell that heat buildup really wouldn't be an issue for this demonstration. Excellent video by the way.

    @desertmoon66@desertmoon6612 жыл бұрын
  • @GalaticTG I had to laugh at this comment... I was subconsciously wanting to do the same thing. Very cool video tkcustom46. I love that conversion.

    @SugarcreekForge@SugarcreekForge12 жыл бұрын
  • Is it still safe to shoot without foll moon clips?

    @keffCA@keffCA4 жыл бұрын
  • As simple as that guys 😂😂😂😂😂😂.big up 👍👍👍👍

    @kirambogomakaanja5247@kirambogomakaanja52475 жыл бұрын
    • ..., .

      @andrejcgf1828@andrejcgf18285 жыл бұрын
  • What advantage does this have over just using speed loaders?

    @NCLUSA@NCLUSA12 жыл бұрын
  • Do you do that to the Cylinder of a Ruger Redhawk, in .45 Colt, so it can handle .45 ACP In a Moon Clip? Yes

    @tkcustom@tkcustom12 жыл бұрын
  • Amazing

    @solesearched@solesearched11 жыл бұрын
  • that looks great. the chamfered edge looks factory

    @otis311@otis31114 жыл бұрын
  • This leaves the web of the case unsupported. Does shooting full house magnum loads result in bulged cases?

    @HaywireHaywood@HaywireHaywood13 жыл бұрын
  • @disturbedone5009 there is a rim/ledge left and it catches the rim of the bullets. It's the same length as stock.

    @MetallicAsian@MetallicAsian14 жыл бұрын
  • I am going to be machining my model 60 cylinder for moon clips in the near future. I was wondering where a guy might find the blueprints for the full moon clip profile. I will be doing this in the cnc at work and would like to machine the full profile around each of the ratchets and was just curious if there's a print available? I'm a toolmaker by trade FWIW. Nice video! Thanks!

    @cgprecision@cgprecision6 жыл бұрын
    • Use a Tool Comparator

      @tkcustom@tkcustom6 жыл бұрын
  • Even if its a demo, doesn't that cause excessive ware to the bit and tooling equipment?

    @cashotpb@cashotpb11 жыл бұрын
  • No refitting of ANY internal parts is necessary at all.

    @tkcustom@tkcustom13 жыл бұрын
  • Nice!

    @cappnzak@cappnzak12 жыл бұрын
  • Maybe just a shorter endmill? Doesn't have to be a 3 1/4 inch LOC to cut that little! Good video but I think a 5 flute tian coated about 1 inch or less would make this a lot better on your time and tool life !!

    @bryceanderson7965@bryceanderson79656 жыл бұрын
  • beautiful work...damn.. hey ..I converted my 1858 .36 cal pietta. to .36lc ..I bought a Taylor & co. drop in cylinder for 220$ and now I have the old bp cylinder.. I called around. noone will mill out the .36 cylinder ..to .38 for me..so I can just buy a back plate and then have 2 drop in .38lc ...would u be interested?

    @tomgallier0103@tomgallier01038 жыл бұрын
  • nice! Bridgeport?

    @SCIFIaction@SCIFIaction13 жыл бұрын
  • Nice fit. I would suggest using a carbide 4 flute end mill and Lubricant. You chould even use a shorter end mill and slow your feed rate to 3 inches per minute. Too much chatter But the fit is nice

    @BlackAdder1970@BlackAdder19703 жыл бұрын
  • Would be nice just to be able to buy a cylinder already machined for the make and model of gun

    @ervinlay6917@ervinlay6917 Жыл бұрын
  • Most people believe this is done on a CNC machine, a regular milling machine and a dividing head it's all that's needed besides the skill to use it.

    @chapiit08@chapiit0810 жыл бұрын
    • why did you spare the coolant? as far as I know, you will need it, or is that a special tool? It´s obvious that it was done with an regular machine, if you use a CNC-machine you will do this with an circular interpolation.

      @TheFreakyJhonny@TheFreakyJhonny10 жыл бұрын
    • lukas anton j. You don't need coolant for this little bit of machine work. I never use coolant.

      @andregross7420@andregross74209 жыл бұрын
    • If you say so...

      @TheFreakyJhonny@TheFreakyJhonny9 жыл бұрын
    • lukas anton j. Why? On a manual machine, doing a part this small, you do NOT need coolant. You have to understand the difference between coolant and cutting oil. Coolant is to cool the cutter and workpiece, evacuate chips, keep down sparks, and lightly lubricate the cut. Cutting oil is a far better cutting fluid, on a job this small chip evacuation is not a problem, nor are sparks or excessive heat. So cutting oil is the far better option, plus it's not nearly as messy, get gummy, and doesn't need a pump system.

      @andregross7420@andregross74209 жыл бұрын
    • None need for lube with the endmills we use now in 2017

      @tkcustom@tkcustom7 жыл бұрын
  • @Koi880 This was a demo. I use oil in the real machining....

    @tkcustom@tkcustom12 жыл бұрын
  • I recall Guns & Ammo touting the "wheel gun". Back then the Browning Hi-Power was referred to as an "automatic" and all of them were deemed unreliable. But people didn't like the slow process of reloading their wheel guns and speed loading research accelerated. Semi automatics were the thinking man's gun and if you had one that worked without jamming you made it your choice.

    @johnplaid648@johnplaid6482 жыл бұрын
    • When was it? I see pistols being reliable at least since very late 70s. And the way people venerate the colt 1911 reinforces that idea. I cannot speak about those made in America, but the Hi Power from FN Herstal in Europe was itself a standard for reliability, the same way most licensed units around the world were. Even the Argentinean ones.

      @Neomalthusiano@Neomalthusiano Жыл бұрын
    • @@Neomalthusiano 1976. I went to buy a Honda motorcycle and the owner wore a gun. He suggested that you run several hundred rounds through your new semi auto to work out the kinks. People like Skeeter Skelton and others fought against the police department they worked for when the brass insisted on use of the semis being issued. He wanted "six sure shots" that a revolver had. It's all about money. No profit means no research. Glock 17 holds 18 9mm and you can find KZhead video where the cop empties his gun as he backs away from the one that was pointed at him. John Browning designed the 1911 around the 45ACP HARDBALL. When the profiteers got hold of the 1911 they began to experiment with hollow points. To make money. And the 1911 began to jam. Gunsmiths began polishing and grinding the internals to make the 45ACP feed easier and eject the spent cartridges. In my opinion the 1911 was developed for profit and because reloading was very fast. When your hands shake it's hard to load six rounds of Long Colt 45. But the magazine makes it easier and very fast. I've seen a dead body on a slab that was dusted by 5 shots from a 38 in the upper torso. Not much difference from a 45 hole.

      @johnplaid648@johnplaid648 Жыл бұрын
  • Can be done we a two axis prototrak

    @ernieschneider5850@ernieschneider58506 жыл бұрын
  • @Koi880 No CN,, done on rotatary table by hand....

    @tkcustom@tkcustom12 жыл бұрын
  • What is the point of doing this to a 625? Can you explain? It's my determining factor of me sending it in. Thanks

    @italianrelic@italianrelic11 жыл бұрын
  • @HaywireHaywood Not an issue. Tom

    @tkcustom@tkcustom13 жыл бұрын
  • Faster speedloads. Can do in 1.5 seconds

    @tkcustom@tkcustom12 жыл бұрын
    • IMBECIL,,ESTUPID

      @mediosinformativosdelsuryn6134@mediosinformativosdelsuryn61343 жыл бұрын
    • @@mediosinformativosdelsuryn6134 why is that? You not understand the concept

      @imthatguy1878@imthatguy18782 жыл бұрын
  • and thats the way it is very good!

    @greasemonkeypol@greasemonkeypol13 жыл бұрын
  • Can you shoot 9mm using the machined 357 cylinder? If so does it require different clips?

    @edwright6578@edwright65788 жыл бұрын
    • I have a Ruger Blackhawk single-action convertible that came from the factory with both a 357 cylinder and a 9mm cylinder. You just swap out the cylinders if you want to shoot cheaper 9 mm instead of 357 or 38. Cool revolver.

      @dennischarles8976@dennischarles89766 жыл бұрын
  • Nice

    @yogeshvalmiki3849@yogeshvalmiki38495 жыл бұрын
    • Hi

      @sokiborrohman6394@sokiborrohman63945 жыл бұрын
  • A mi me gustaria saber cómo hacer un arma repetidores del calibre q sea pero letal para un cirvo

    @miguelmorenogarcia9711@miguelmorenogarcia97116 жыл бұрын
  • why no coolant? Will make the endmill last longer

    @RockerGuy0001@RockerGuy00015 жыл бұрын
    • you think we'd see whats goin on with coolant splashing out on everything

      @Tri_Nguyen_@Tri_Nguyen_2 жыл бұрын
  • Yeh, that's what I was going to say, but I suppose you wouldn't be able to see much if you had coolant splashing everything away. Do you heat treat them to spec when you finish?

    @233kosta@233kosta11 жыл бұрын
  • you should blow the chips away with the compress air gun or smth?

    @Syn741@Syn74112 жыл бұрын
  • I love stuff like this. How difficult is it to operate a mill?

    @BulletArc47@BulletArc4711 жыл бұрын
    • 2 or 3 years apprentiship should do it.

      @fiddelinpaul@fiddelinpaul6 жыл бұрын
  • Quando eu estiver aí eu vou procurar alguém que faz armas, e vou pedir para fazer um revolver 410 de oito tiros.

    @simiaomr7665@simiaomr76655 жыл бұрын
  • thats so cool

    @XxGuardian337xX@XxGuardian337xX14 жыл бұрын
  • @nuttyape Most stainless firearms are 416 stainless. I don't know if Smiths are.

    @mzmadmike@mzmadmike13 жыл бұрын
  • Question . just bought a 686-6 357m If the cylinder is machined for moon clips can it be shot without using moon clips.?? Thanks

    @midohioguardian4957@midohioguardian49573 жыл бұрын
    • Yes it can!

      @tkcustom@tkcustom3 жыл бұрын
    • @@tkcustom Thank you !!

      @midohioguardian4957@midohioguardian49573 жыл бұрын
    • @@tkcustom Do you get your same cylinder back that you send in ?

      @midohioguardian4957@midohioguardian49573 жыл бұрын
  • I think it's unneccesary feature...You can use speed loader for quickly load rounds in the cylinder...I have both 6 shot and 7 shot versions,nothing so excited for me about 686 or any other models.....The revolver is more reliable than pistols,it would rotate any not working round and fire next one but revolvers only have limited amount of rounds,maximum load of revolver is 8 rounds,Nagant revolver carrying 7 rounds...The most fast revolvers to reload is Webley's,there used to be reloading clips but they cost even more than revolver itself and very rare to spot....Webley MK6 is the largest caliber ever made,with conversion commercial .45 caliber reduced load rounds could be used with moon clips,for better result special quality .45 barrel and cylinder to be made in order to accept .45 ACP standard rounds,modification of barrel latch spring also requires so it hold retainer intact without loosing out....I like Webley's very much,they reliable type of revolvers and extract casings fast than any modern type revolvers,I also like small ELG Lieg revolver .32 caliber,it reassembles Webley mechanism but only hold 5 shots in cylinder.....

    @Cabal2600@Cabal26006 жыл бұрын
  • THAT'S THE PART OF THE REVOLVER

    @gaymizutsune4433@gaymizutsune44339 жыл бұрын
    • Wakashi Flain no shit sherlock

      @RememberTheWayOutIsThrough@RememberTheWayOutIsThrough9 жыл бұрын
    • No it's not! it's a milling machine. : \

      @ScoopDogg@ScoopDogg8 жыл бұрын
  • would have been nice if HD

    @bob3913@bob39138 жыл бұрын
  • awsome

    @raulgo373@raulgo3738 жыл бұрын
  • رووووعـــــــه

    @user-bk9lx3jo5c@user-bk9lx3jo5c6 жыл бұрын
  • meus deus ! é assim a seco sem refrigeração na fresa ?

    @willam4@willam49 жыл бұрын
    • willamms macena i thinks it's a demo

      @glamarque1746@glamarque17467 жыл бұрын
  • Val Venis titantron?

    @StewartLucrative@StewartLucrative13 жыл бұрын
  • how much would this cost ?

    @shitpickle1128@shitpickle112814 жыл бұрын
  • No lubricant?

    @JohnLevelOne@JohnLevelOne12 жыл бұрын
  • Can you tell me the cost

    @allenfenimore3231@allenfenimore32313 жыл бұрын
  • Moto doido mano

    @carlosgabriel1161@carlosgabriel11617 жыл бұрын
  • No cutting oil?

    @cal30m1@cal30m17 жыл бұрын
    • None need for lube with the endmills we use now in 2017

      @tkcustom@tkcustom7 жыл бұрын
  • Ouch SS is difficult to machine, good work.

    @rapidrrobert4333@rapidrrobert43338 жыл бұрын
    • I machine it all day..... Just don't want to deburr it!

      @johnnyholland8765@johnnyholland87655 жыл бұрын
    • Nah...Stainless is easy to machine unless your cutting 17-4 and you let the tool dwell,then it work hardens.

      @TrulyUnfortunate@TrulyUnfortunate3 жыл бұрын
  • I want to see gun makers machine the chambers recessed like they used to. Similar to rimfire.

    @freakindawgen@freakindawgen2 жыл бұрын
  • Can you do that to the Cylinder of a Ruger Redhawk, in .45 Colt, so it can handle .45 ACP In a Moon Clip? Do you belong to any of The Gun-Mking Forums? You would be most welcome! .....RVM45

    @RVM451@RVM45112 жыл бұрын
  • @GalaticTG Experience

    @tkcustom@tkcustom12 жыл бұрын
  • why didnt water or oil

    @haoever@haoever11 жыл бұрын
  • After this mod, I assume it's necessary to fit an oversized hand, owing to the fact that you reduced the o.d. of the ratchet? or are you starting with a new, oversized extractor, and then fitting it down by hand?

    @abates226@abates22613 жыл бұрын
  • @SUSSTURUCU No that would be illegal.....

    @tkcustom@tkcustom12 жыл бұрын
  • Quem material é esse

    @leonardovieira5050@leonardovieira50506 жыл бұрын
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