Nissan CVT FAIL @107k miles! (P1778)
2021 ж. 3 Қаң.
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BOOM, another Nissan with major CVT problems!
This 2012 Nissan Rogue at 107k miles refuses to shift to higher gear ratios.
Feels like the transmission is slipping severely when torque is applied.
Several codes are set, but the P1778-Step Motor Failure comes back instantly.
Enjoy!
Ivan
CVT: slips once also CVT: tell my wife I love her
P1776--time for the owner to declare his independence from this car.
😂🤣😂 Fantastic comment!!
You sir, win the internet.
Typical Nissan
Get a Toyota for freedom from automotive headaches.
People act like keeping technology on the bleeding edge of efficiency by recycling this cheap crap every 5 years is somehow better for the environment than just building stuff that lasts. It sure is taking a toll on our economy.
Government CAFE standards.
preach
We could fix the issue with a real transmission and more Diesel vehicles. But the gooberment and big oil won't let us have them.
It was cheaper to build than fix the cvt. JATCO who builds Nissan CVT rather build complete unit for pennies to be replaced. Notice Nissan Service departments will not open cvt, just want to replace not fix. Dealers will diagnose or possibly replace Valve Body, that`s all.
Oh the car companies don't care they only care about your money 🤷♂️
Ah, the old "Eric O" line... "I didn't build it, I didn't buy it, and I didn't break it!"
Scotty Kilmer enters the chat screaming Endless Money Pit!
Yeah and should of bought a Toyota.
'94 Celica for the WIN!!!
@@1vw4me Lol
@@classix848 ironically Toyota makes some of the best cvts. Staying true to the reliability, even know CVT's won't come close to the reliability of Toyota's four-speed Auto.
Scotty has a endless hatred for all Nissan's.
That fancy scanner should give you a code of "scrap it " and save the environment.
That fancy 5000 dollar scanner is made in china. The best most expensive scanner money can buy is china made. So china makes the best shit?
Q: *Are you sure 100,000 miles is long enough for a transmission?* Nissan: *Yes.*
wow so funny i didn’t even laugh. now shut up kid
@@tobu5398 stfu
😂😂
Subaru: *hold my beer*
Eric O used the same line:"I didn't build it, I didn't buy it" and added "I didn't break it" a few months back to close a video. Great line that I have repeated to my customers dozens of times since I heard it.
Eric O-He used to be on u tube didn't he ?
@@davidworsley7969 he still is
@@davidworsley7969 , South Main Auto Channel
It's not an uncommon line, usually used when the customer starts to get mad at the mechanic because the repair gets expensive.
@@davidworsley7969 How dare he takes a break over Xmas!
Remember when Nissan made good cheap cars?
Yeah, back in 1979.
I still miss my 03 Maxima sometimes, but I'll never miss needing a quart of oil with every other tank of gas. That was the beginning of the end for them.
Yeah they were called DATSUN'S !
Yeh that was before Renault took over and starting medling on how Nissan should build cars and turn to once was a bullet proof reliable car that could rival Toyota into a dog and lemon 🍋 here in Australia Nissan don't sell in big volumes the way they use to in the 80s and 90s as there reputation has been trashed
But Nissan's are the coolest looking....
Just hit 110K in my Impreza CVT, still going, changed fluid at 95K or so, definitely improved power. Wishing I had done it at 60K. Don’t ever trust lifetime fluid claims on anything
Subaru CVTs are better than Nissan
I just replaced an engine in a 2013 Subaru that had about 217,xxx miles on it. The engine went to poo, but the CVT transmission is going along well and it hasn't ever been serviced, with the exception of me replacing a torque converter lockup solenoid with the cheap one from amazon. Its been good for about 4,000 miles so far. The Subaru units are definitely better. I believe they are both made by Jatco, however.
@@paulstandaert5709 Waiting for someone to explain how the same company makes bad transmissions for one car manufacturer but not tbe other 😅 the reality is CVT reliability has improved a lot in the last decade, but you do have to be aware of the reliability of the car and model year you're buying. Some Nissans have good CVT reliability, some do not. Even to the point where at 2016 Versa can be better than 2015 but, perhaps, worse than 2014.
@@bernlin2000 A guy at my work has a 2012 Outback and the transmission just started making noise at 17x,xxx miles. So??? I guess the slush box transmissions are notorious for not going that far in any case. I will stick with my stick shifts.
The stepper motor is a common issue, and easy to replace if you're a competent mechanic. Drop the pan, drop the valve body, and it's right there sitting on top.
same result as the other one , bad fluid same result , next trans coming soon Ivan , Happy New year, stay safe !
Bet it still has the original fluid in it. The life time fluid has just hit its life limit.
Lol You're suppose to change that Nissan fluid every 30k, Now instead of paying a few hundred dollars for the fluid swap the owner now gets to pay 5k for a new transmission!
@@ShockinglyBleh Being a nissan cvt, I don't think it would've lasted much longer even if the fluid was serviced.
@@ShockinglyBleh People who don't know this are fooled by them telling the buyer " IT'S LIFETIME FLUID ". It's actually false advertisement & they should be held accountable for saying this.
@@Sonichu_is_watching It's hit or miss depending on the year and model. Either way if you own one and you don't change the fluid it is guaranteed to fail.
Aaron tht guy got lucky he got over 100K miles on
The flashing 35° warning would drive me nuts
It's to let you know that there could be possible ice on the road.
@@hedga001 agreed but to have it blinking constantly would be really annoying. Blink for maybe 5 secs that would be ok.
@@robertbell525 You can turn it off in the menu on the information cluster on the dash. Had to do it on my 2015 Rogue.
Does it do that constantly? In the winter it would be blinking from November - April.
@@danielpindell1267 The newer Rogues give you a single alert rather than a constantly flashing display.
I have a 2019 Malibu with a CVT, it has been excellent, and the car currently has 180K miles, still working perfectly
The transmission oil changed into a grindingpaste, One must change the transmission oil every 40 to 50.000 miles. Regardless the "lifetime filling" claimed by the factory. And one should use the prescided type of oil. At the end it's much cheaper then a new transmission. But this counts for all proper maintainance.
I think the Deer was trying to warn him about the CVT transmission.
@Funny Guy CV transmission. You know what they mean
200k miles on my Nissan rogue still drive well in the mountains. I tow a lot so i actually invested in a transmission cooler at 150 miles. The key for me was consistent oil change, transmission and differential fluid changes and proper tires maintenance.
same here... I towed a 5 x10 enclosed uhaul trailer from jacksonville fl. to upstate ny. I've even moved with it, at least 6 loads with my 5x10 utility trailer up and down the hills of ny. Even a load of fire wood (that I would never do again). Tell the truth I cant even count the amount of times Ive pulled with this car. To pick up couches, washing machine, etc. my utility trailer is like 1,300lbs itself. Recently i pulled my quad on my utility trailer from ny to ga. no issues. i keep the fluid and filter changed. Im due for another full service this time i found out about the paper filter and ordered it. I have 185,000. This car has driven back and forth from north to south 8 times, and I used to pull my quad around with it too. I want to get a cooler any suggestions?
Bingo. It's how you treat the car.
Yes, but many of them have blown up after 40k miles, and the fact that they need additional maintenance merely proves how fragile these transmissions are. Even though my car has 200k miles on it, I've never changed the transmission fluid. I definitely should have, but luckily I don't drive a Nissan lol. It would have exploded if I had a Nissan with a CVT lmao
That's the key to longevity
You got lucky. They're junk.
Hmm looks familiar, I have a 2004 micro cvt that sometimes jumps into “low gear” when what I consider under load (driving up hill, pulling away from lights) but only if the throttle is in a specific position - it’s only ever a problem when it randomly does it on the motorway at 70mph - could it be a similar problem or something else? It’s done nearly 130k.
Is there a problem with clogged passage in the transmision for the oil or is it the stepper motor fault? I belive if the STP motor need replacment you can do it Ivan. Dig into service manual.
That’s pretty good 170,000kms, bmw transmission last about 100,000kms and cost double to fix but no one is banging on about that.
At the shop I worked at we did, one of customers switched to Lexus and swears by it after having 7 BMWs he nicknamed them Buggy Motor Works and it stuck. 😅😂🤣
*laughs in Camry on 330,000km*
@@MattExzy transmission in the camry if not serviced regularly would be dead before that.
Bmw.trans never fails.
@@fazicapone6931 that’s bullshit, the engines are pretty shit too, oil leaks before that even get to 40,000kms
Is Eric O hunting? Lol. Great video!
He's probably fighting with his video editor like I am... Or he's hunting...
Hey ivan, I have a 13 rogue here now with the same problems and the exact same faults stored and it behaves in exactly the same manner. Is there a way to send u a video of my findings? There was no problem with the step motor nor were there any electrical problems. The problem In this one is both mechanical and hydraulic. The primary variator has failed kibbles and bits and its destroyed the pump and other components. I'm in the process of repairing it now.
Change the step motor and put new oil in - it will run fine, unless Ivan didn't tell us everything the owner shared about the CVT behavior a bit before, before the issue. The job is labor intensive and quite messy - on most CVT the stepper motor is not accessible without removing the valve-body. I'm not a mechanic and took me 5h to do that + it took me 2h extra to find on the web witch bolts to remove in order to get the valve-body out. Ivan is a master, plus he has the tools and probably his alldata subscription will give him the bolts location in a jiffy.
I'm pretty sure the stepper motor and 4 coils are all accessible if you drop the pan and remove the valve body. Would definitely have been worth investigating. Nissan is big about recommending replacement of the CVT for almost any reason at all. The do the same thing with the TC. Instead of replacing seals they just say replace entire unit. Its kind of sad.
I'M SURPRISED IT MADE IT TO 108K
exactly. once you go automatic, you go for walk.
Mine went 192k. Its mostly in how you drive them in life expectancy. One fluid change at 182k.
@@natewood8124 what driving habits did you use?
@@billwilson3665 no hard acceleration at all anytime. When merging or passing on the highway make sure to have plenty of room. Just being easy on it and rarely going over 2500 rpms, 3k rarely. It won't perform anyway and if you push it it will shorten its lifespan.
Mines is at 180K. Do you morons not read the owner’s manual? Lmao.
First, thanks for the vids and all the help you give!!! We have actually spoke before about my/our XL7'S and the timing chain tensioner issue. I have a question I hope you have run into before if you could give some guidance. After taking my 2003 XL7 out of 4wd hi and back into 2wd...the front differential is still doing the banging/clunking that it does to relieve transmission wind up. It is common when in 4wd but shouldn't be doing it now. I tried putting it back in and out, putting it in 4wd low, driving in reverse, and jacking up the front end to release the wind up. Any help would be GREATLY appreciated!
My 2002 has a manual t-case lever. Does the 2003 have an electronic actuator on the t-case? I would start there.
Thanks for the reply, you are awesome! Manual lever. I've been doing some work on it and I think the whole diff is just shot. I've never replaced one so not sure how,hard it is or what it involves. I do most of my work myself so if an average backyard mechanic can do it then great, if not I'll hire a pro. It's definitely driveable to State College if you're up for the job.
By chance is that CVT on the Recall also? For a time Nissan was repairing them and offering a warranty.
Ivan, is there any chance that clean fluid could loosen up the sticking valve that controls the pulley ratio?
No. Once these burn up, they're junk. That super expensive METAL BELT wears out too quickly.
It looks like it could have been the step motor $30 part. Did you end changing it or condemning the entire transmission?
He's a try hard
I said the same thing dude trying to make as much possible. I would of just replaced the stepper motor and saved the people some money
at 3:21 min why, were there some brake-cleaner cans behind that deer?
Hello question if you see this. I have a 2012 ford fusion with 277,xxx miles while driving the car comes to a stall when turned on it gets shaky, and after another on and off it goes back to normal no codes nothing, But looking online it says its the throttle body as those are recalls on 10-13 do you think it could be something else?
Ivan, do you know of a good source to learn more about transmissions, etc? How can you tell if the CVT is slipping due to a mechanical failure or bad sensor readout input? Thank you again.
When was thank you stated until the end? Proceeding the last sentence with again makes no sense.
@@skinlab4239 asshat 😅
@@scientist100 Weber Auto is a good channel for transmissions, but I don't recall much content on Jatco/Nissan CVT units
I'm really shocked that Ivan didn't dig more into it, there's got to be parts available for these by now
No one messes with these CVTs, Nissan doesn't repair them either, they just swap it.
Checking flow control valve wear, pulley leaks, and a worn or sticky valve body is better left to others.
I had two vehicles with Cvt that goes into safe mode and barely move or not moving at all. So i replace the filters inside the transmission and problem solved.
Parts and labour would be Crazy...and you are still left with an old Nissan..😎
No parts available
I replaced step motor and then valve body and it still keeps throwing 1778 code. It's primary and/or secondary speed sensors throwing the code
Can you help I have 2011 rogue code 0725 secondary speed sensor replaced both. I’ve done fluid change every 50g’s. I’ve got 168g’s on it. The 0725 code still comes up on my Diaglink
nobody gonna talk about the close encounter with the deer ??
I have a 2011 nissan maxima with 339000 km, original owner, I maintain the car very well and the p1778 code just came on couple of weeks ago. I took the car to nissan to diagnose it and they told me I need a new transmission and that it can't be rebuild period. I then took it to a Japanese transmission and auto part shop and they told me that the transmission can be rebuild. So not sure who's telling the truth from who's lying but it's crazy of the lack of information for these type of transmission. Seem like everyone is learning as they go along but these transmission been around for a while now. My car doesn't slip, it goes into all the gears but I notice once I go on any trip around 60 plus km and at a high rate of speed (140km to be exact lol), I start to feel the transmission doesn't change as smoothly. Almost feels like it goes into limp mode. But who knows lol, but I guess I should be thankful that my transmission lasted this long comparing to 107k miles
Hi, mine does the same when I go up to 70miles. Did you ever get yours fixed or any changes? Thanks
Any transmission can be rebuilt the dealership wants the money they get out of it than getting the minimum amount possible by rebuilt. Sounds like yours is more of lack of transmission fluid at Over 60km/hr
@@DaOnlyOne I was headed out of town, went to auto store guy checked my transmission stick & he said none was in it but told me to only buy 1 quart of transmission fluid. I can drive anywhere as long as I dont go over that 60-65 mph. (Or whenever transmission heats up I guess) You think I just need more transmission fluid? All my gears are shifting. Thanks for your response
@@tiffanyjunious2993 if it needs transmission fuild every two weeks or whatever time you have to add means one of the components is failing and needs to be replace or rebuild or you can change the transmission filter and oil cooler retirn and refill the fluid maybe will be fix it.
@@DaOnlyOne Ok Thanks
If they bought a rebuilt, can your scan equipment reprogram it? Or is that a dealer only programmer? (Some one suggested Rockauto has them)
My Snap-On Verus was the only aftermarket scanner that could relearn the TCM adaptives on the Rogue.
That tool is worth its wait in gold!
Can you get the same transmission data on a Launch Diagun V scan tool ? Enjoy your videos..👌
Ok Ivan. I just had a customer come in with a failed CVT on their 13 Rogue. Trans shop put in a remanned unit directly from Nissan since I don't do transmissions, but it wouldn't 'shift' from out of low range. Contacted Nissan. They said the TCM/PCM needed to be reflashed before the new trans would work and learn properly. Cost $220.00. Then it works fine. Ever run into that before?
The TCM needs to be forced to "re-learn" with a scanner. Had to do that on my wife's Rogue with the Snap-On Verus.
Ivan, just wondering, since the malfunctioning cvt is being replaced with an identical unit, why does the tcm have to relearn? What is it relearning?
8 year old transmission fluid no doubt. Lack of maintenance is contributing factor.
Why is my 35 year old transmission with 274k miles in my Grand Marquis still working then?
@@SmittySmithsonite Nissan clearly states in the owner's manual that the CVT transmission fluid should be changed. There's no need for your slick remarks.
@@trent7080- I wasn’t being a smart ass - it’s a legit question. The answer only the automakers really know ... but it’s pretty obvious parts aren’t built with longevity in mind anymore.
@@SmittySmithsonite my 95 Cougar had 259,000 on it when I traded it. Got fluid flushed every year.
@@SmittySmithsonite CVT fluids require a MUCH more uniform molecule size within the oil due to the significantly higher use they see. This is achieved via friction modifiers added to various synthetic oils. As the oil goes through cycles of heating & cooling the molecular bonds loosen and you begin to get irregularities, In traditional transmission oils it's not a big deal if there's a bit of variation as the transmission isn't really at a risk of missing a very precise step & causing damage.
My Nissan quest just got the p1778 code while on a rode trip 4 hrs from home. Is it safe to drive if I keep it under 2000 to 3000 rpm? Engine starts to slip around 4000 rpm.
Where is your shop located at, Like what state are you in?? I live in South Jersey and have been looking for someone who knows how to rebuild CVT's with the New Rebuild Kits that are out Now?? I am At 105K and getting Nervous..
I would bet it probably will be like the one you tore apart with the shaft getting galled up finally ending in self destruction.
I'm suprised it had a dipstick. Probably the last year they included one.
Yes 2012 was the last year for sticks.
All the good it did to have one- fluid's all burnt & thinned out.
It had 2, the original one between the drivers seat and the steering wheel neglected to service their car, probably did not stop complerely before shifting from reverse to drive and vice versa either
Ya, after that they came with that "fluid for life" bullshit! This was the life of transmission!
@@srnc9740 Wrong, Nissan still states the fluid should be changed at 60k miles and every 30k after that. Nissan also has a dipstick that can be added on to their vehicles for a small cost.
Got a Camry at 64,000, first thing i did was tires, alignment, oil, and transmission fluid. After three cars, Scott Kilmer and some questions asked I'm understanding the importance of basic car maintenance and reliable automobile buying
I’m guessing after I brought my maxima in 2013 nissan changed something, because my car has 194,000 miles and no problems. So what changed?
Scotty Kilmer would tell that CVT he's been a mechanic for 58 years and it's no Toyota.
The old get one from the junkyard won't work this time, they are all junk.
Wasn't there an indication that the step motor was bad? Just replace it and change fluid?
I got P1778 on my old Altima around 70k miles. It went into failsafe almost instantly, couldn’t drive it like you are. Maybe 10 mph then down to 5. Luckily I was going downhill and had it towed to dealer- never got a CEL
We have a 2015 Pathfinder and the transmission started to act up at 102k miles. Initially thought we just had an ac issue but mechanic said we were getting a transmission fault code too. Cooling fan was not working and potentially overheating the transmission. Good news, Nissan extended the Pathfinder transmission warranty to 84k miles and prorated coverage for another 30k miles. Ended up only paying $2.5k to get the transmission replaced with Nissan paying for half of it. So maybe another 100k miles on the car? Kudos to Nissan. P.S. we changes the transmission fluid every 30k miles and still and issues at 102k miles.
Check the transmission cooling system too.
Yep As we know Nissan CVT's are junk. I crossed Nissan off my buy list years ago. Nice to know i still made the right decision.
I had a Nissan Primera M6 which had the cvt (the sport version I wanted only came in cvt), converted it to manual and became a different car (in a better way).
The 3.5L with all the heat failures in the electronics did it for me. I loved my two old hardbody pickups with the 3.0 (one had over half a million) but they make junk now.
Replaced valve body, stepper motor, and the code keeps coming back. Any chance it's the tcm?
Toyota Corolla Axio 2007 acceleration issue, driving 20 - 40 km/h speed rpm drops, then it take acceleration slowly, if i push the accelerator paddle the rpm gets higher but the speed remain same after some time it increases the speed, IS IT CVT fluid issue OR gear clutch issue??
is that a road you are on? cause here in Minnesota something that narrow is called a bike path
Those are all over the Northeast. The road I live on is even more narrow, and only half of it is paved. The part that was paved was done 60 years ago. MA for ya!
@@SmittySmithsonite would not wanna drink and drive on them
@@mowmanjones3353 - Ahh, you get used to it.😜
yes, that's definitely a road, lol, imagine having to drive on roads similar to that with a 26ft box truck delivering Amazon freight to some of the little towns around Pa, just have to granny gear it and gently fold the trees back, lol
@@mattcat231 - I've been all around MA in a tractor-trailer. It tested your patience, that's for sure!
And CVT is supposed to be the evloution of gear boxes? Dark clouds on the horizon.
No. EVs are the future and they don't need transmissions.
@@wism3179 With a new battery (Leaf) costing $15,000, it's gonna be a while...
Is that a joke ? CVT has been in two-wheeler scooters decades before it is put into a car. CVT is meant to cut cost not some kind of evolution. Don't be fooled.
@@fleurdewin7958 while I get where you are coming from, a cvt is a much more efficient transmission compared to a regular auto.
@@themaxee08 That is not true. CVT has much higher transmission losses than conventional auto. Today you do have 10 speed auto transmission in a front wheel drive car and they are very efficient. And CVT are flimsy. You will never find a CVT in a turbo diesel car /pickup truck anywhere because it cannot withstand the high torque of a turbo diesel.
Hi I have a Nissan Xtrail 2015 2.5 CVT AWD GCC UAE Specifications, i replaced the transmission after i faced major stuttering issues 370,000km and now 430,000km.when driving slow in traffic from 20kmph to 40kmph, i am facing slight stuttering while gear is shifting down ,- is this again transmission failure? It works fine if i drive above 40kmph to 120kmph . please let me know if there is any other solution to fix this - CVT Fluid changed - there are no error codes on the computer
1998 p11 hyper cvt lasted to 292000kms not sure if that is good or not. Mostly highway driving changed fluid every 30000kms. Thrashed a lot.
CVT’s are generally fine with lighter cars (compacts), as long as the transmission fluid is changed every 40,000 miles and the coolant is flushed every 20,000-30,000 miles. CVT’s tend to fail frequently on SUV’s and vehicles over 4,500 lbs.
Transmission fluid on any modern car with a sealed transmission does not need to be changed, idk who told you that it does
@@casp3r_de_gh0st90 Who told me? How about every mechanic? How about the owner’s manual?
Consumer Reports says that owners began reporting problems with the 2012 Nissan Rogue CVT as early as 35,000 miles with most reports coming in at 94,000 to 115,500 miles. CR goes on to say, “Some members reported that the work was covered under warranty or that the transmission was replaced under a special Nissan extended warranty program, the type of customer service support that manufacturers sometimes extend to address common problems.”
That’s amazing tbh. I mean not old Nissan or old Honda/Toyota, but still
Should be recalled under lemon laws.
check pump flow control valve,if magnets in pan just have fuzz,and both filters are relatively clean,and its only a P1778 code,its a $30 fix
HI! My name is Viorel, i'm from Romania and i have a nissan qashqai j11 from 2015. I have a problem with my accel fluctuation and most people said is because CVT . I did't find a dipstick for my car. aplease can you tell me wich is the lenght of that dipstick? I will fabricate one. Thanks!
Ivan, pour a bottle of Lucas in there and it will pure like a kitten 😂
@Andrew lol, howdy brother. I see we have the same taste in channels.
U nuts
CVTs are garbage compare to a regular 5 speed automatic. For that little bit of fuel savings, that gas money you save during the ownership is not enough for you to buy a replacement transmission.
Honestly it depends on the CVT, but most nissans are hot trash. The hybrid eCVTs that toyota make are known to be bullet proof if you maintain the fluids in them.
@@SmurfHunter eCVT is not the way you know CVT. As far as I'm concerned, it uses no belt, no pulley. Instead, it uses the electric motor to start rolling the vehicle.
@@albertusandriechristian3826 Newer CVTs are built a bit better. Especially Toyota and Honda that introduced a gear to take tension away from the steel belt when accelerating.
@@MonkeyMonkeyMONKEY. that's interesting. Does it apply to the Honda made 'earth dreams CVT'? I own a 2020 Honda HR-V and this car was advertised to use "CVT with Earth Dreams Technology".
@@albertusandriechristian3826 I think so. If I’m not mistaken every Honda and Toyota after 2018 started to incorporate that into their CVTs. I certainly haven’t heard much complaints from either Honda or Toyota owners who drove CVTs versions of this vehicles. The only ones I see complaints from are Nissans. That’s because of there Jacko CVTs though.
I have a 2011 Nissan Rogue with almost 115k miles on it. So far it hasn´t shown any problem. I don´t know if I can expect a huge problem in the near future. I´ve changed the fluid every year as I have owned it for 2 and a half years now. Who knows if some can actually last a long time.
My personal experience with a 2012 Rogue. owned by a family member. I changed the CVT fluid at 60K, and at 120k, I did the fluid and filter. It was traded in with 156k and the CVT still worked fine. Could regular fluid changes extend the service life?
Yes
Having driven/owned a 2003 altima,2015 altima, 2009 rogue & 2015 rogue i've never experienced any CVT issues, draining the fluids every 40k miles. There are relatively accessable drain/over-fill ports on the transmission without even taking into account the filter(which changing is a bit more controversial) so I never really understood the fuss about it being extremely difficult to do. However, out of the people I do know that have had a failed CVT had either never changed the fluid, used non-oem fluid replacements, or bought the vehicle used with sketchy service history.
@@sakaraist My brother just purchased a 2017 Altima, with 40k on it. The first thing I did was a spill and fill on the CVT. I did notice that it calls for Nissan CVT NS2. The older Nissans call for NS1.
Changed the step motor in an altima and a murano with good results.
One time in my nissan versa 2007, but now the problems came back
What a coincidence it fails right after the 100 K warranty
Gears Magazine mentions the P1778 stepper motor code is the most over-replaced part and that the most common cause are flow control valve wear, pulley leaks, and a worn or sticky valve body. However they also mention the stepper motor is going away on newer CVTs. Sounds like treating the symptom and not the cause.
I have the same problem with my Nissan Murano 2014. Just has CVT Transmission Oil changed, after 1 month and 2 weeks my car showed the problem.
Hey can any one help . I have maxima 2011 with 220000 miles . It only drives in low gear. Got p1778 and p0744” torque converter “ fault code . should I even bother fixing it?
My 15 Sentra CVT failed at 43k miles. Barely 4k miles after I bought it. After fighting with the dealer for a couple months I got it replaced under warranty. So far so good now at 95k miles. Fluid change is a pain in the ass without a dipstick, but it's doable.
Get rid of your Nissan and get a Volvo.
Amazon has a dip stick for it.
@@AKZheadChannelwithNoName I have a volvo LOL An 88 740 turbo sedan, to be specific. That's my project child.
@@genefoster8601 Link? I just eye ball 3.5 to 4 quarts.
Amazon sells a dipstick for 2014 Nissan probably fits 2015 also. Just take the cap off the dipstick tube (NEARLY IMPOSSIBLE). Then put the dipstick in and see what it reads then go from there and add an extra half pint. (THATS ALMOST NOTHING) and It's all good and won't hurt anything. Nissan wants to turn this into something critical. Plug in your laptop then bring the temperature up to 1500 degrees then say 3 hail Mary's and two of the lords prayer then run around the car 3 times then go to the 🚻 restroom then put 3 gallons of brake fluid in and have a good day.
I wonder if you changed the fluid on these things like a normal automatic if they would last longer. It would be an interesting study.
Yes they do
Have an 08 altima and had a p1777 code. Stepper motor was bad. Ran the ohm test on the 4 pins. 2 were at 18ohms the other 2 were at 27ohms and both are suppose to be at 30 ohms. Replaced with a junkyard stepper motor (tested at 29.8 ohms on both sets of pins), and 120 bucks of cvt fluid and no more engine light and the transmission shifts like butter. Wouldn't shift from 1st gear prior to the work
I have a 2010 Versa non cvt with 240,000 miles. Never changed the transmission fluid. Should I be co concerned at this point? I’ve had it since 107,000 miles and never changed the fluid.
Just spill and fill with Valvoline MaxLife would be a good thing :)
Tip for you Ivan .... always smell the trans oil ... you will smell if it's burnt. Same goes for power steering fluid.
They never serviced that trans fluid...the nissan life time fluid trap worked on this one.
Ya all company's are at it now I thought it was ivens car
@@neilmurphy845 Exactly, Subaru (or at least Subaru of America) tries to get away with the same thing. All customers are now guinea pigs for car manufacturers- "Hey we want to see how our transmissions fail, I have an idea- let's push it off on the customer by saying the CVT fluid is lifetime and never needs changing!"
Well, technically the fluid did last the lifetime of the transmission...
Nissan states that the fluid shoul be changed at 60k miles and every 30k after that.
@@trent7080 it might be best to just change it every 30k regardless. Even then i dont imagine it would last too long, trash can only get so far with new fluid. Any bit of maintenance would help though.
My mom had a 2015 Nissan Versa, and she had a problem with the CVT as well she was coming home, and the transmission wouldn't "shift" to the next gear ratio would just be stuck in one "gear". The car started to lose power even if she put her foot down, and barely made it back home. She had around 80, or 90 thousand miles on it.
Was this cvt maintained with fluid changes?
Mazda's 6 speed skyactiv drive transmission is a pretty good reliable transmission.
Sky active is the engine not transmission. Lol
@@luffyking3513 Really???? pretty sure I know my stuff on Mazda.... the transmission is called SKYACTIV-DRIVE the term skyactiv is the general term used for Mazda's technology but I will let this link from a Mazda official website tell you that the transmission is called SKYACTIV-DRIVE www.mazda.com/en/innovation/technology/skyactiv/skyactiv-drive/ which BTW the engine is skyactiv G and the G is for gasoline.. just saying check your facts out before responding like that.. also I worked in a Mazda dealership LOL for several years.
@@linuxkernel4.199 hit him hard with the facts. Respect.
@@z0mb13ki113r1 thank you ... all I was trying to say is do the research before making a careless hasty comment because there is always somebody that knows the engineering technical aspects and terminology behind things.
My 6 speed auto (not a cvt) transmission is still perfect after 130k miles. I love my Mazda.
My dads 5 speed auto is at 236k miles
@@Kana0211 if it ain't broke, don't fix it. I'll stick to the older style of transmissions since they hold on WAYYYYY better than CVT.
@@ZoraPMC yep. I got a 6 speed manual fj cruiser at 140k miles. Hope to at least double that in the future. Plus I love the old hondas cuz I grew up in them.
The only Mazda I've bought turn out to be a Ford pos
How does reputation for CVT cars failing transmission effect the resale of these cars?
negatively haha
What was the problem and how did you solve problems
Driving continuously in a hilly/mountain region WILL kill these CVTs no matter what. They simply can't handle the stress over time. Fluid changes are good but won't solve the overall problem.
Actually, any transmission can be killed in this environment if they are always run in regular "D" mode. They should be be downshifted at least one gear, put in "Sport Mode," or put in "D3" in they are a regular transmission. Same goes if you are driving around town at under 35mph. Especially if the town is hilly. Police around the country figured this out because when they ran regular "D" mode in their police cars driving around town constantly, it would destroy their transmissions. They solved this issue by issuing orders to use "D3" all the time unless they were on the highway.
Forgot to mention that the Nissan Rogue manual actually says to use gears 5, 6 or 7 when traveling through hilly or mountainous terrain. Folks need to read their manuals when they get these vehicles:)
In your opinion, can driving a car with automatic transmission almost always in hilly or mountainous areas, but without ever towing anything, significantly shorten the life of the automatic transmission itself? In my opinion, certainly yes: just see how much more effort you put in pedaling uphill with a bicycle.
Yes I would agree it would work harder and be more prone to failure.
bad secondry speed sensor or stepper motor?
Did they ever change the transmission fluid? That is the key
I've done a few of these nissan cvt stepper motors replacement (same code). Its hit and miss something. Out if the 8 I did 2 being a Rogue 5 worked by just replacing the stepper motor. The other 3 unfortunately had no luck. Its not that bad of a job and the motor isnt that expensive.
Interesting. For the ones that worked, I wonder if the transmission life has been severely shortened due to slipping.
To be honest not sure but 3 of the 5 is over a year old and still strong. I had 2 Nissans come in 2 weeks ago both same code same issues. One had severe slippage (Rogue) and the other not to bad. The stepper motor fixed the severe one but not the other. I was actually shocked because i thought the table was turned. In my experience its not to bad of a job to do and seems to hold for a year or more.
@@lovetolearn5253 Great info, thank you for sharing!
@@lovetolearn5253 I have replaced the stepper motor on my jx35, the P1778 code came back. Replaced the whole valve body, the code came back again. Could it be the tcm?
@@gibson7654 unfortunately without seeing the car personally I couldn't give alot of info. In my experience I've never replaced a tcm for this code and I've done a few. In most cases it's the stepper or tranny unfortunately and I don't know any tranny shop that rebuilds them. Make sure you get a good oem stepper motor. In the last 5 years me and my dad has seen more bad parts out off the box then in my dads 40 years in business. I'm not sure what's going on but everything is junk lately. Good luck and sorry I couldn't help more.
I loved that Deer!! Lol!!
How do you rule out ner stepper motor and fluid change as a fix?
Excessive slipping = CVT death. New/reman transmission only.
I did a video on this too it was a P1777. Lack of maintenance causes this...I replaced the step motor and it was good for 4 months then it quit again, I did a trans swap and was good, still going strong they said. People wait too long and don’t change the fluid every 50k at least. Bummer. These aren’t fun as you know.
' It's buggered ', that's a technical discription :-D. At least it's a fast diagnosis :-D Waste no more of your valuable time ivan.
Yep, they come from the factory buggered. 😁
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣Both of you.
I would just change the fluid just to see what happens. They probably commonly fail because of the fluid never being changed. It most likely can’t function properly with all the contaminates in the fluid
Pretty sure these fail whether or not you change the fluid. Would be interesting to see how much longer they last with fluid changes though.
@@NicholasAndre1 I took my chevy spark took it to dealer to get cvt flushed I can tell they don't like dexron idiots at dealer put dexron instead of cvt fluid at least I have new transmission at 55k miles I guess
they are snow mobile trans
@@johnaquino5055 same concept totally different execution.
@@malachihart7370 have someone put an external cooler on it. Heat kills cvts.
Sir plz tell which car brand engine is more reliable Honda or Hyundai??
I would go with Honda, pre-GDI era.
Anyone have an opinion the Subaru Lineartronic CVTs? My father got a '20 Outback with it and while I cringed at the thought of the thing eating itself when he bought it I haven't seen the cries of despair about those nearly as much as the Nissan CVTs.
Matthew Weiner is better
Impreza and Crosstrek with 2.0 engine, putting low stress on cvt are descent, models with bigger engines have lots of complaints regarding cvt failure and slippage, also electrics, build quality, and engine failures. Best and ultra common practice up North is to lease Subaru never buy one
Too new to know. Time will answer the question.
Danger! Danger! Ivan (Will) Robinson a CVT approaches! Maybe if you transfuse it with Amanda's Rogue fluid it will come to life or maybe send it to Alpha Centauri. I will now revert to stasis mode.
Don't they have a SAW DUST additive ? Recommended by used car dealers and auction houses nationwide !
@@billsmith2212 I prefer the Husqvarna dusk vs the Stihl shavings. I haven't heard that one in years. That gave me a laugh.
It doesn't need a new transmission, just needs the stepper changed - it's a common failure - couple of hundred versus a couple of thousand..
I said the same thing. Drop the pan, remove the screen and replace stepper motor. Only difference in this fault in the video is he would have had to drop the valve body out and change the 4 coils I think too.
you are right, had the same issue replaced stepper motor and changed fluid and it works as good as before...
I just gotta assume my 1995 Pathfinder (paid $800 a year ago) is pre-CVT. I have not had to junk it yet.
I currently have a 2007 V6 Altima SE with over 230K miles with the original CVT. Whe I hear the CVT whine, I get the CVT fluid drainned and refilled service. I use the recommended Nissan CVT fluids. With these many miles ,I've had the engine coils go bad. Mechanics advice me to replace the CVT. While otherd found the engine coils . We changed the engine coils now the engine and transmission run great.
Keep your fingers crossed 🤞😁