Best Cabin Subfloor Idea You’ve NEVER Seen. Joists, Insulation, & OSB.

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Have YOU ever seen this before? The floor joists, insulation and OSB subfloor in the off grid Spur Cabin are installed in a very unique way in this video. Why?
Rodents! What's your favorite way to mouse-proof a cabin floor? Is it even possible? What you'll find in this video is my answer...or at least as close as possible with what I had to work with. And I’ve never seen it done before.
I think you'll agree it's a good alternative. Let me know in the comments below!
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  • As a 41-year carpenter & all around construction worker, I would have to say there was some brilliance involved in that line of thinking! Of course, it's easy to watch someone else do something and critique it, but, I won't do that, but, I think I came up with a good idea keep the 7/16 OSB from eventually rotting away. Oil base prime the exposed side prior to construction. Oil base primer dries incredibly fast too! Also, it's a lot less expensive than the new house wrap coated OSB (ZIP, Force Field, etc...) & treated plywood. 🤔👍

    @benttwisted210@benttwisted2109 ай бұрын
    • I’ll take “some brilliance” any day! I appreciate you watching.

      @LifeontheMoose@LifeontheMoose9 ай бұрын
    • @@LifeontheMoose you're welcome! Did you think a little bit of brilliant foresight was involved with the pre-priming of the belly? I would probably have my primer tinted brown because white does attract flying insects & ants!

      @benttwisted210@benttwisted2109 ай бұрын
    • I had the same idea but I was thinking damp proofing tar. I've been painting the top of my floors with whatever oil based enamel that I have on hand. Seals the wood during the construction process especially in wet climates. Painted wood is really tough.

      @mattarnold2650@mattarnold26509 ай бұрын
    • @@mattarnold2650 agreed! I've done several fire restorations and they require an oil-based primer on salvageable lumber & sub floors.

      @benttwisted210@benttwisted2109 ай бұрын
    • Oil based paint isn't vapor permeable. By painting the exterior you are trapping moisture in the wall where it will condense and rot out the wall. Those commercial systems are moisture barriers but vapor permeable.

      @court2379@court23798 ай бұрын
  • I'm a retired builder, and let me tell you, it's a lot easier to WATCH someone do it than do it! BTW never nail the sub floor, ALWAYS use screws to prevent squeaks.

    @PeterMajewski-gr3re@PeterMajewski-gr3re8 ай бұрын
    • At first I was concerned about squeaks when I built the Ridge Cabin (other videos) but I built it the same way, and not even the hint of a squeak. I’m happily surprised. So I did it again! I appreciate you watching.

      @LifeontheMoose@LifeontheMoose8 ай бұрын
    • I use screws now but ringshank nails did the job, too.

      @bonnier001@bonnier0018 ай бұрын
    • do not forget a little bead of adhesive

      @raicebannon1936@raicebannon19362 ай бұрын
  • When you sheet the walls, let the plywood run past the bottom plate to cover the rim joists; then when you stand the walls you'll have no seam at the floor. Do the same on the wall corners; hold back the wall a half-inch from the edge and use the plywood sheathing on the next wall to tie into the first wall and so on. It'll make for a much stronger structure, with everything tied together.

    @ZacVaper@ZacVaper9 ай бұрын
    • Do double top plates with the top ones that overlap the adjacent walls in all the corners,

      @ZacVaper@ZacVaper7 ай бұрын
    • beautiful work cowboy🙏💎🍾🍸🥂🐓🌴🏝👙🛒🦋📋🛡👍💪🌹🍒🌶🐞🦖🎉❤🍞🇹🇹

      @jairamragbir437@jairamragbir4374 ай бұрын
  • We did this to our cabin. We added mesh screen and felt paper between joists and osb to keep the mice out. It's amazing how much of a difference it made

    @nicholasrolley950@nicholasrolley9509 ай бұрын
    • Is mesh screen the same as hardware cloth?

      @andys3138@andys31389 ай бұрын
    • ​@andys3138 Typically yes. Hardware Cloth usually refers to the heavier duty metal screen as opposed to window screen grade mesh. It typically starts at 1/4" and up in grid size, and the wire gauge will also be bigger on the larger grid sizes like 1" square.

      @davidhawkins847@davidhawkins8479 ай бұрын
    • I spend a lot of time in OLD cabins, so I see the rat and mouse problems. I kept thinking doing something like this would provide an insulation point and protect the underside from intrusion but wasn't thinking do it in sections. Like you though, I was wondering if putting on the bottom a layer of hardware cloth would add that extra layer to prevent rodents as well as bigger animals from tearing into the underside. Between this video and your confirmation that it can be done, THX.

      @davidhawkins847@davidhawkins8479 ай бұрын
    • You could add cedar saw dust

      @brentcraig@brentcraig9 ай бұрын
    • mice rats eat thru felt.. wire mesh and foam all opennings foam holds mesh.

      @peter-pg5yc@peter-pg5yc8 ай бұрын
  • I’d just like to say…after years of hard work, watching countless hours of youtube, liking videos, commenting, subscribing…the algorithm has finally started to recommend good, wholesome content for me to enjoy and learn. I wish I was building that cabin with you, man. I’ll settle for just watching, though.

    @CorbinMusso88@CorbinMusso889 ай бұрын
    • That means a lot!

      @LifeontheMoose@LifeontheMoose9 ай бұрын
    • @@LifeontheMooseme too

      @eugenecbell@eugenecbell6 ай бұрын
  • Did this on our cottage too. Worked well. We also painted the "bottom" of the OSB to give more humidity protection.

    @stupiduser6646@stupiduser66469 ай бұрын
    • Good idea! We are in a very dry place here, otherwise I would have done the same. Thanks for watching!

      @LifeontheMoose@LifeontheMoose9 ай бұрын
    • Great job putting on your skrim sheet I was a little concerned when I saw how massive the structure was and that tiny air compressor lol 👍👍

      @randymacsgarage@randymacsgarage9 ай бұрын
    • Same as I thought. You should have coated the bottom layer of OSB with creosote or Thompsons with a rodenticide. Critters will chew through the OSB eventually to build nests in that warm insulation space. Since you had the compressor you could have sprayed the coating with an LPHV rather quickly. Here is a tip to save your cordless battery drill, wipe those long screw threads across a bar of soap before putting them in.

      @joepangean6770@joepangean67709 ай бұрын
    • Looks like some kind of jig is in order to hold joists in place during assembly.

      @calvinabbott6920@calvinabbott69209 ай бұрын
    • ​@@joepangean6770Yes, rodents will absolutely chew through that OSB, especially when it takes on moisture over time. When I built my three season porch, I skinned the bottom of the joists with treated plywood and poured a layer of sakrete on the bottom of the joist space in case rodents chewed through the plywood. Then I ripped strips of Styrofoam for insulation. Rodents will almost certainly be nesting in the cabin floor in this video.

      @nonprogrediestregredi1711@nonprogrediestregredi17119 ай бұрын
  • Aahhhhhh the beauty's of working alone. It really is an experience people should have at least once in life.

    @dontask7898@dontask78988 ай бұрын
    • Agreed! 🙏

      @LifeontheMoose@LifeontheMoose8 ай бұрын
  • enclosing the joist bays is a really good idea. I agree with other comments about a vapor barrier on the ground under the cabin. I kept my old F350 on a dirt floor in the barn. Seemed like humidity from dry dirt still rusted the under carriage. My 20' shipping container/secure storage shed was also in that barn. Humidity in the container was still a problem. I jacked it up and rolled a sheet of polyethylene under it and humidity was gone.

    @mattmobley9671@mattmobley96719 ай бұрын
    • Vapor barrier is the number one comment, and I’ll address that in an upcoming video. I appreciate you tuning in so far!

      @LifeontheMoose@LifeontheMoose9 ай бұрын
  • I built a small cabin as well and did something similar. I pin nailed and liquid nailed 1x2 around the bottom interior, then painted the plywood facing the ground with sealer, then liquid nailed and nailed the plywood in. Filled with insulation and put the 3/4 inch tounge and groove on solid and love it.

    @randyandrews2743@randyandrews27438 ай бұрын
  • As someone who annually has a fight with ants during summer, I might suggest getting a couple jugs of dry ant bait (I use Terro Granules) and sprinkle them down inside the joist cavity before you added the insulation. If they DID get in, this might help keep them at bay. I am sure there is similar for Termites as well.

    @Casper042@Casper0429 ай бұрын
  • cuttting insulation batts is BEST done with the paper side down. Put the straight edge on top of the fiberglass, mash it down and cut. The paper will cut FAR easier when it's against a cutting board.

    @briggshome7012@briggshome70129 ай бұрын
  • Love this idea of keeping critters out of the floor! Only I would also waterproof/critter proof the underside of the 7/16 by using something like Henry's aluminum seal coating on it. Basically tar based and aluminum dust. It would water proof , and I think that the oil base and aluminum would discourage both critters and insects from chewing it or making a nest within it. Love styrofoam insulation for the R value, but my second would have to be Rockwool type batts in the joists.

    @jeffproctor1690@jeffproctor16909 ай бұрын
  • I’m fighting the same problem with wood rats here in Kentucky. I came up with a similar solution but I’m going over the joists with plywood like a regular floor and making a rigid foam / radiant barrier floor on top of that. It’s more material cost, but on a small cabin it’s not an issue. I’m not a fan of osb. I wouldn’t use it on my own house if it was free.

    @rexmundi8154@rexmundi81549 ай бұрын
    • Just curious, is it the fire hazard or the potential swelling like a balloon if it gets wet? We used to burn the scraps of osb on construction sites during the winter. Man does that stuff burn once that glue gets hot!

      @snurb48@snurb487 ай бұрын
    • @@snurb48 it really breaks down fast if it gets wet. I know it’s not designed to get wet, but it invariably does. In renovation work you’ll find osb degradation practically everywhere it’s used.

      @rexmundi8154@rexmundi81547 ай бұрын
  • Not sure I would have used particleboard that close to the ground because once that starts to de-lamante it would be very hard to repair. I think pressure treated plywood might have been a better choice.

    @Jimbo171000@Jimbo1710008 ай бұрын
    • And I would have been inclined to cover the whole thing with overlapping fine wire mesh to keep out the critters.

      @mudpiemudpie785@mudpiemudpie7858 ай бұрын
    • That isn't particle board. It's OSB. They make OSB as subfloor for a reason. There are no greater issues with it than there are with plywood sheets. If it were a big worry, you could use DryMax which is even made to handle getting a bit wet. I've seen plenty of home and cabin builds that use OSB and unless the builder made a mistake, I've never heard an issue. I think if you're getting that much water splashback up to the subfloor, you've done something wrong.

      @nahnotsomuch2292@nahnotsomuch22927 ай бұрын
    • OSB stands for Orented Strand Board. It has nothing in common with partical board. It's designed for this purpose.

      @barbarianleatherandblades8686@barbarianleatherandblades86867 ай бұрын
    • for the floor i would of use marine plywood, if it can stand up to sea water it will last out there for sure

      @highlanderthegreat@highlanderthegreat7 ай бұрын
    • @@highlanderthegreat you a rich guy?

      @MrSteeDoo@MrSteeDoo7 ай бұрын
  • It's nice to see somebody think ahead.

    @jimgree@jimgree9 ай бұрын
    • I appreciate that!

      @LifeontheMoose@LifeontheMoose9 ай бұрын
  • I realize the manufacturers and marketers of OSB tell you it's "just as good" as plywood, it's not. My opinion is based on decades of experience going back to when it was the new kid on the block. I used thousands of sheets of the stuff, sub-floor, wall sheathing, roof sheathing. Some of it was good, most was and is, a compromise. I went back to using a good plywood, the difference isn't all that subtle. Far better moisture resistance (in spite of marketing claims), better nail retention for hold down, lighter, less deflection between framing members and yes, usually more expensive. I've seen OSB fail enough times in situations where it wasn't supposed to that I am reticent to use it. Marketing will always speak "as good as". Another example: Manufacturers of blown-in, loose fill fiber glass insulation tell you how wonderful it is. What they leave out is the performance of the stuff drops to half at severely cold temps, just when you need it the most. J.D. Powers did extensive testing well over thirty years ago to show that. Your choice of course, but be skeptical of claims of "as good as", there is always money involved.

    @murphymmc@murphymmc9 ай бұрын
  • I built this same floor about 2 years ago. Very warm ... and no rodents.

    @steve34043@steve340439 ай бұрын
  • I'm just about to build my cabin in Scotland. I'm 70 yrs old looking forward to.more of your very entertaining vids thank you for your extra time and light heartedness. As you teach us all ..mike Scotland. All the best to you .

    @jaminthevanuk296@jaminthevanuk2967 ай бұрын
    • Thank you so much, Mike from Scotland!

      @LifeontheMoose@LifeontheMoose7 ай бұрын
  • Handy way of building the floor! If you were to nail the insulation between the joists rather than on top, you could still glue the sub floor down. Just a thought.

    @joe8schmoe@joe8schmoe8 ай бұрын
  • Nice, your a natural. You could staple the insulation another way to the inside of the joist, then you could glue. I'm not a big fan of covering studs and joists with paper, because I'm the drywaller and OSB guy too...🙃

    @whistlelips@whistlelips8 ай бұрын
  • Thank you, I've been looking for this type of sub flooring and everyone thought I was crazy and wanting to over do it. I can't wait to get started. Thank you

    @bellasouldesigns@bellasouldesigns8 ай бұрын
    • Appreciate you watching!

      @LifeontheMoose@LifeontheMoose8 ай бұрын
  • Build the floor out of structured insulated panels. OSB on both sides, sandwiching a foam core. The 4 other sides are contained within dimensional lumber.

    @brettgracey9682@brettgracey96829 ай бұрын
    • That would work! Cost is a big consideration for me, too. Thanks for watching!

      @LifeontheMoose@LifeontheMoose9 ай бұрын
    • If you glue and nail osb on both sides you have an enclosed air gap, no need for insulation. Also, if rodents want in, they will just chew a hole. I would have used double joists on all the edges so they aren't just floating. Great spot for a cabin 🙂👍

      @colstace2560@colstace25609 ай бұрын
  • Patrick, that is a great way to install the floor joists and insulation to make a snug cabin. Love your music selections. Blessings to you as you complete your project.

    @billroberts3864@billroberts38649 ай бұрын
    • I appreciate that, and same to you!

      @LifeontheMoose@LifeontheMoose9 ай бұрын
    • Ya I agree Patrick has a new subscriber looking forward for future notifications .

      @frankdodson3534@frankdodson35349 ай бұрын
  • To avoid your sheathing problem you are supposed to offset your first measurement by 5/8” that way the edge your sheet will be in the middle

    @mhughes1160@mhughes11609 ай бұрын
    • That works, too! Thank you for watching.

      @LifeontheMoose@LifeontheMoose9 ай бұрын
    • I didn't see a sheathing problem.

      @heatherclayton-callaghan4270@heatherclayton-callaghan42709 ай бұрын
    • @@heatherclayton-callaghan4270 at 13:27 the joists aren't connecting the two sheets, the sheet butts up to the end then flops around loose.

      @Valchrist1313@Valchrist13139 ай бұрын
    • Thank You for seeing what I saw. Yet... @ 9:53 on his second floor panel, before being flipped over, he did lay a bead of construction glue to be between the two OSB underlayment board seams. I guess he was somewhat thinking about it and I guess something is better than nothing. 🤔 To each their own, I suppose.

      @SirJozef328@SirJozef3286 ай бұрын
    • @@Valchrist1313 not sure what you’re seeing. Maybe not the whole video? Nothing is flopping or loose. The length of the OSB is supported in several places, and all of it glued. Thanks for watching!

      @LifeontheMoose@LifeontheMoose6 ай бұрын
  • Great job, lovely how you kept your site tidy and your creativity is fun to watch. Good planning and execution. Lots to learn from. Nice vid production too. Humour is fun. Glad KZhead introducted us!

    @mumpygumboo8554@mumpygumboo85549 ай бұрын
    • I’m equally as glad!

      @LifeontheMoose@LifeontheMoose9 ай бұрын
    • Your comment is spot on and I agree with it. I will sub to this channel. Cheers from Mollymook Beach Australia.

      @garrydonnelly6433@garrydonnelly64338 ай бұрын
    • @@garrydonnelly6433 hey bud. I'd like to send you as song I wrote from Canada, to the tune of Land Down Under by Men at Work: I come from a land up topper with ski jumpers and wood choppers Wooo yeahhhh...... etc, etc. Sorry can't remember the rest of the song. LOL

      @mumpygumboo8554@mumpygumboo85548 ай бұрын
  • I would've affixed a vapor barrier to the underside as well. Exposed to the ground like that, the OSB is gonna get damp despite the air gap. Completing the deck is so satisfying.

    @seanhoude@seanhoude8 ай бұрын
    • Thanks for tuning in!

      @LifeontheMoose@LifeontheMoose8 ай бұрын
  • Great video, one thing though: are you SURE you want to put a fire pit next to a cliff… where people will be sitting around, maybe drinking, in the dark?

    @eleanordutton3430@eleanordutton34309 ай бұрын
    • They can all put inflatable sumo suits and helmets on. That way they will bounce.

      @blackterminal@blackterminal23 күн бұрын
  • iv been a carpenter for about 40 years n i give u the thumbs up its something i would do

    @TheGino62@TheGino629 ай бұрын
    • Thanks so much!

      @LifeontheMoose@LifeontheMoose9 ай бұрын
  • Konečně vidím rozumného člověka, který dává do podlahy izolaci.

    @tomasploc6042@tomasploc60429 ай бұрын
  • Nice job. Great commentary. Fun to watch, and great idea with the build-then-invert strategy.

    @bennywilks9367@bennywilks93679 ай бұрын
    • Thanks so much!

      @LifeontheMoose@LifeontheMoose9 ай бұрын
  • This way of subflooring makes so much sense to me. Good on you!!!! God bless.

    @misty4782@misty47829 ай бұрын
    • Much appreciated!!

      @LifeontheMoose@LifeontheMoose9 ай бұрын
  • Comments are amazing as always…. Great job! Not just the construction and the property, but also your attitude and playfulness!! I haven’t watched any of you other stuff, but I’m subscribing. Keep it up!

    @ajforeman83@ajforeman839 ай бұрын
    • Thanks, that means a lot!!

      @LifeontheMoose@LifeontheMoose9 ай бұрын
  • Great idea, just ensure that whatever you utilize for outside covering, that you cover the edges of your OSB boards to keep the weather off it

    @remotetrapper8991@remotetrapper89919 ай бұрын
    • Absolutely. You’ll see them covered in a few episodes. Thanks for watching!

      @LifeontheMoose@LifeontheMoose9 ай бұрын
  • Nice work!

    @daveh7137@daveh71379 ай бұрын
    • Thanks and thanks for watching!

      @LifeontheMoose@LifeontheMoose9 ай бұрын
  • Seeing the buck in velvet and you using the nail gun made me think of when I was building a large log home in Hood River, Oregon years ago. One of the guys on the crew was nuts about calling turkeys. I don't remember what time of year it was, but at lunch every day he was out trying to call in the toms. He wasn't having much luck. We then started putting the T&G decking on the roof. We would lay up about six runs of decking and wedge it all down hill to tighten it up. I would then pull out the big Senco and start to nail off a whole bunch of decking. As soon as I started nailing it drove the Toms WILD!!!! They went nuts and started running out of the woods toward our house site. I never saw anything like it. Mark was absolutely PISSED!! I think the Senco was the best turkey call I've ever seen.

    @EnGammalAmazon@EnGammalAmazon9 ай бұрын
    • Outstanding story! Appreciate you watching.

      @LifeontheMoose@LifeontheMoose9 ай бұрын
  • I work by myself a lot, a couple of big clamps can come in pretty handy. Hold things up, together, and brace things temporarily.

    @UkemanCad@UkemanCad8 ай бұрын
    • Good call!

      @LifeontheMoose@LifeontheMoose8 ай бұрын
  • your making some great progress my friend

    @JohnAmes@JohnAmes9 ай бұрын
    • Much appreciated!

      @LifeontheMoose@LifeontheMoose9 ай бұрын
  • First video of yours I’ve watched, and I’m already super-pleased with your tactics! Unsurprisingly, this would also work for super-humid climes like my home-state of Florida (where bugs are basically guests…).

    @InvaderMyk@InvaderMyk9 ай бұрын
    • I’d probably use something other than OSB in humid/wet climates. It lasts here because of the lack of moisture. Thanks for watching!

      @LifeontheMoose@LifeontheMoose9 ай бұрын
  • I love your attitude you’re being a fun person to work with

    @88rushrocks@88rushrocks9 ай бұрын
  • Thats a bloody marvellous idea . Your location will turbo charge your soul. Warm , dry , safe, simple, what more could a man ask for. I realy enjoyed this and thank you for your efforts in producing it.

    @eamonncoady9823@eamonncoady98238 ай бұрын
    • That means a lot. Appreciate you watching!

      @LifeontheMoose@LifeontheMoose8 ай бұрын
    • @@LifeontheMoose I'm watching from ireland good man

      @eamonncoady9823@eamonncoady98238 ай бұрын
  • I've been thinking about different ways to do this. Outstanding idea and video. Cheers !!

    @thearrowheadwoodsman3811@thearrowheadwoodsman38119 ай бұрын
    • Comments like this make it all worth it! Thanks for watching!

      @LifeontheMoose@LifeontheMoose9 ай бұрын
  • What a great idea. I'm going to build a 12 x16 structure next spring and was wondering how to make a bottom enclosure for my insulation without a bunch of nailers and ripping plywood. Nice job.

    @budlite8207@budlite82079 ай бұрын
    • I appreciate that!

      @LifeontheMoose@LifeontheMoose9 ай бұрын
  • Man, that's nice weather. I have a good friend that lives in MN, I love going up there to see them. Beautiful weather, beautiful country. The Boundary Waters is my favorite place. Nice build, brother.

    @Cierbhal@Cierbhal9 ай бұрын
  • Very nice idea and like your energy! Look forward to seeing more

    @TorbenCASchwartz@TorbenCASchwartz9 ай бұрын
  • I enjoyed watching this cabin build. The idea of the way you built the floor nd joists upside down is a stroke of genius. I'm old enough to be your Mom, and would never have thought to do it this way. And yet, it save crawling in tight places, it saves time insulating (and be comfortable doing it) and by the looks of it, saves time overall. Thanks for sharing. I have subscribed, because I want to see the whole build and love your humor to boot. Have a Blessed day.

    @margaretbedwell3211@margaretbedwell32119 ай бұрын
    • This perhaps wins the award for the kindest comment ever received! I appreciate you.

      @LifeontheMoose@LifeontheMoose9 ай бұрын
    • @@LifeontheMoose How nice of you.

      @margaretbedwell3211@margaretbedwell32119 ай бұрын
  • If you want to make a remote cabin even more critter-proof , you can nail down 24 gauge galvanized sheets first. Unfortunately both the OSB and the galvanized will act like a second vapour barrier on the wrong side of the insulation. The cold underside of the floor will act like a condenser for moisture in the insulated floor. If your climate is always dry , you may not have issues. If you have a wet season where the temps go up and down through dewpoint, it may get musty and eventually rot. Technically the cold side of the insulation should always be able to breath so it will stay dry.

    @solexxx8588@solexxx85888 ай бұрын
    • Yes, very dry here, almost constantly. There will be no ground moisture where rain doesn’t directly fall. Thanks for watching!

      @LifeontheMoose@LifeontheMoose8 ай бұрын
    • use chicken wire mesh etc. rodents cant eat it..thicker one.. also used to jam into opennings then foam.. critters are smart

      @peter-pg5yc@peter-pg5yc8 ай бұрын
  • I am 76YO and have done some construction of out buildings and cabins ... BRAVO! Well Done! This is great how-to for an excellent job! NICE!

    @dougbas3980@dougbas39808 ай бұрын
    • MUCH appreciated!

      @LifeontheMoose@LifeontheMoose8 ай бұрын
  • Just found this video. 5 months or so late. Excellent. Now I have to watch all of this build. Good job. ❤😊

    @MR-si1eq@MR-si1eq3 ай бұрын
    • Alright! Better late than never. Thank you!🙏

      @LifeontheMoose@LifeontheMoose3 ай бұрын
  • Great work! In Spokane, fires all around us. I often wondered what the impact would be if folks in the country had a sprinkler (park or playground style) mounted on the peak of their cabin's roof that could be used in fire season to protect the cabin and surrounding grounds...

    @williamrubin8041@williamrubin80419 ай бұрын
    • I’ve always wondered the same thing..

      @LifeontheMoose@LifeontheMoose9 ай бұрын
    • You can buy sprinklers made for that purpose. I think the issue is that, unless you have your own water tower for gravity fed water supply, when wildfires happen there are usually widespread power and utility issues so you probably won't have water pressure.

      @benjaminhamilton2338@benjaminhamilton23389 ай бұрын
    • The clay tile roofed house in Lahaina was untouched in the midst of the fearsome fire on Maui. The home owner had also cleared bushes and other plantings from near the house. Ametal roof will save you a lot on home insurance.

      @pheobefink2664@pheobefink26649 ай бұрын
    • the tricky part is water supply?

      @cre8hive1@cre8hive18 ай бұрын
    • @@cre8hive1 Design a tower to hold a small reserve water tank above roof level. 😊

      @bonnier001@bonnier0018 ай бұрын
  • I'm surprised you didn't lay a sheet of poly on top of the insulation. Our building codes state that we always lay poly between the insulation and the material (OSB, drywall, etc) on the warm side of the building.

    @thehazelnutspread@thehazelnutspread8 ай бұрын
    • That should trap moisture. Ffs

      @MadRat70@MadRat703 ай бұрын
    • You put poly on the WARM side of a building and leave the COLD side open. This does NOT trap moisture.@@MadRat70

      @thehazelnutspread@thehazelnutspread3 ай бұрын
  • Great job, thanks for taking the time to share. Enjoy your cabin.

    @scottbovard5552@scottbovard55528 ай бұрын
    • Thanks for taking the time to watch!

      @LifeontheMoose@LifeontheMoose8 ай бұрын
  • Great idea and step by step filming. And love the interactions in the comments that alter and add to the original build. Liked, shared, subscribed and notifications on. Good group here

    @jerrymoore838@jerrymoore8388 ай бұрын
    • A good group starts with good viewers! Appreciate you subscribing.

      @LifeontheMoose@LifeontheMoose8 ай бұрын
  • Plastic ground cover should have been placed under the pier blocks for the foot print of the cabin. Moisture control makes a better building. Then cover the plastic with gravel without minus rock.

    @susanvaughn741@susanvaughn7419 ай бұрын
  • Very clever idea! Although I don't understand the 7/16 OSB on the top...I would've went with 23/32 Advantech. Strong and extremely resilient.

    @cabinman@cabinman9 ай бұрын
    • Mostly…money! I got a fairly decent deal on this OSB at the time. I’ll finish with wood flooring to really add rigidity. 🙏

      @LifeontheMoose@LifeontheMoose9 ай бұрын
  • Loved it. Loved your enthusiasm and good humor.

    @okieproperty9141@okieproperty91419 ай бұрын
    • That means a lot! 🙏

      @LifeontheMoose@LifeontheMoose9 ай бұрын
  • Thank you for sharing this with us. I really enjoyed your humor mixed in with your commentary. Great instructions. Happily subscribed and looking forward to seeing more of your videos. Beautiful view too!

    @brendaking737@brendaking7378 ай бұрын
    • Wow that means so much! 🙏

      @LifeontheMoose@LifeontheMoose8 ай бұрын
  • Nice job! Only difference is I would have rolled in the bottom of the OSB some waterproofing/roofing coating. Also coated the tops of the main floor beams. Would add another 20-30 years to your floor. Having lived on the Pacific coast, moisture + wood = no bueno. Keeps bugs from making a home too.

    @oldrabidus2230@oldrabidus22309 ай бұрын
    • I also live(d) on the PAC Coast, and this isn’t it! There, concrete hardens in the bag inside a garage. Here, it stays powdery for years. I appreciate you tuning in.

      @LifeontheMoose@LifeontheMoose8 ай бұрын
    • @@LifeontheMoose I like the trick of nailing the bottom side OSB to the joists and flipping it over. But I would have put the joists in position and nailed or stapled a piece of scrap to them to hold them in place while the OSB is wrestled into place

      @frontiervirtcharter@frontiervirtcharter8 ай бұрын
  • Unless your going to leave it open all year round under that particleboard you should use a thick moisture barrier with it. Chipboard breaks down pretty fast when exposed and leaves soft spots for critters to get into...I'm speaking from experience.

    @jrjr7390@jrjr73909 ай бұрын
    • Always open. No issues with moisture in these parts, and it’s amazing how OSB weathers MUCH better than traditional plywood. Something I’ve recently learned. Thanks for the comment and for watching!

      @LifeontheMoose@LifeontheMoose9 ай бұрын
    • Can you elaborate more on OSB weathering better than plywood? We see the opposite (and very distinctly) in New England

      @LukePighetti@LukePighetti9 ай бұрын
    • @@LukePighetti depends so much on the circumstances, but I’ve seen a couple reputable individuals and there’s info out there about OSB durability when wet. Because non-treated plywood has bigger pieces of solid wood, they are more susceptible to warping and splitting layers. Again, depends on what form that moisture is. Yes, the edges of OSB is its Achilles heal. The bottom line, my overall build strategy would be different if in a different climate.

      @LifeontheMoose@LifeontheMoose9 ай бұрын
    • @@LifeontheMoose This logic makes no sense, plywood can totally delaminate and you still have multiple plies of solid wood. OSB falls apart into wood chips when it gets wet so there's nothing left of it, unlike plywood which retains some strength even if the glue fails. Whoever said OSB is better in wet environments is either referring specifically to something like Advantech subfloor or they are completely full of shit.

      @bobbygetsbanned6049@bobbygetsbanned60499 ай бұрын
    • Never would I use osb. Maybe treated ply for what you are doing

      @BryanL1982@BryanL19829 ай бұрын
  • Awesome build, beautiful area.

    @Twistedmetal-qe8kx@Twistedmetal-qe8kx9 ай бұрын
  • Sweet location for a cabin - love the views.

    @samuelbonacorsi2048@samuelbonacorsi20488 ай бұрын
  • Pretty similar to some shed/cabin builds I have done on our High Desert Farm.... but I went with Rockwool for insulation. This is a MUCH easier way to drop in the floors/insulation and my experience has shown that keeping the space heated in COLD winter conditions have not caused any moisture issues as the floors still breath really well with minimal skirting.

    @cavalierx6099@cavalierx60999 ай бұрын
    • Great comment, thanks for watching!

      @LifeontheMoose@LifeontheMoose9 ай бұрын
    • I came to the comments to say something about moisture, and then I saw you already said it! This design works very well in dry cold climates where low outside humidity is sufficient to draw any condensation that forms inside the joist bay below the insulation through the plywood... If anyone watching this is thinking about building something similar in the Midwest, there needs to be a vapor barrier above the insulation, below the subfloor plywood. This could be just taping the craft paper in this assembly, or it could be a purpose made product spread over the top, stapled down, and taped.

      @kschleic9053@kschleic90539 ай бұрын
    • Hahaha...'cold' winter conditions in the desert. I'd use Roxul too as the winters here get to -45C or colder for 4 - 6 months of the year...cold.

      @karlhungus545@karlhungus5459 ай бұрын
  • Finally!!! Someone who knows something. Thank you for the video. I’m a subscriber.

    @jamestaylor8860@jamestaylor88609 ай бұрын
    • Thank YOU for subscribing!

      @LifeontheMoose@LifeontheMoose9 ай бұрын
  • I also must build a shed/shop (16 x 24) and had the same idea to do it upside down at first. I am 20+ miles from the US/CAN border, too funny. This video with all the great comments will help me a lot. The larger structure has me concerned so am not entirely sure how to approach it, so comments are totally helpful! You are just in time too, thanks for showing me that I am not insane, or we both are.

    @valeriemckay7064@valeriemckay70648 ай бұрын
    • Lol can’t BOTH be. Appreciate you riding along! Let me know how the project goes.

      @LifeontheMoose@LifeontheMoose8 ай бұрын
  • Nicely done man!!!

    @shaner67@shaner679 ай бұрын
  • Conceptually I like the idea... much easier to install the insulation well and seal up the bottom. Me being me, I'd probably have oriented the bottom sheets 90° to take advantage of the OSB structure and limit sag. Because bugs exploit any gaps available I'd probably have used Great Stuff Pestblock or construction adhesive at the corner joist/rim joist joints, around the perimeter of the joists/rim joists and the OSB, and between the beams and OSB, to keep the bugs out. The Pestblock could serve as an adhesive if you kept the insulation kraft paper back a bit from the edges. Around my area, before applying siding, flashing the beam/rim joist area to keep the rain/snow from migrating between the beam and OSB bottom would improve the longevity of the structure too.

    @johngrossbohlin7582@johngrossbohlin75824 ай бұрын
    • THERE IS NO STRUCTURE IN ORIENTED STRAND BOARD IT IS COMPLETELY RANDOM THERE IS NO GRAIN IT HAS SOME STRENGTH LENGTHWISE AND WIDTHWISE BUT LITTLE HORIZONTALLY

      @johnnoname6814@johnnoname68143 ай бұрын
    • @@johnnoname6814 The name of the product alone tells us that the strands are not random. Rather they are laid up in layers with the layers facing either with the length or width of the panel as it's being manufactured. The face layers are oriented with the length of the panels. If you look at the stamp on OSB panels they have a an arrow indicating the strength axis of the panel... which is the long way. This orientation matters for roof and floor decks but not for walls. This as the shear strength isn't affected by orientation but the deflection is. Also, for roof and floor decks the rough side should be up as it provides better slip resistance. See The Engineered Wood Association web site for more details.

      @johngrossbohlin7582@johngrossbohlin75823 ай бұрын
  • You wanna get rid of flies? Use Irish Spring, rub it on your clothes everywhere. And they don't want to smell of it.

    @rudyfisher7660@rudyfisher76609 ай бұрын
    • I’ve never heard of that. Thank you!

      @LifeontheMoose@LifeontheMoose9 ай бұрын
    • I'm more concerned about mosquitoes than flies.

      @joewoodchuck3824@joewoodchuck38249 ай бұрын
    • Flies don't like the smell of Irish......spring. interesting 🤔

      @iceman9678@iceman96789 ай бұрын
    • ​@@LifeontheMooseYou might try getting a Bug-A-Salt (if they are legal where you are). They fire a tiny pinch of salt at about 200fps, and they flys do not even see it coming. Only works to about 30" or so, but if your aim is good, it is 100% kill at 30".

      @jdrissel@jdrissel9 ай бұрын
    • ​@@jdrisselGive sea salt a shot for more distance.

      @yesicanu@yesicanu9 ай бұрын
  • 'Outside of the box' framing, and, gluing all under-joist plywood joints...who woulda thunk it? Ingenious! Thanks for sharing 😊

    @danialaho5543@danialaho55438 ай бұрын
    • Thanks for watching!

      @LifeontheMoose@LifeontheMoose8 ай бұрын
  • Beautiful work….at last a proper sub floor made ….well done greetings from Australia….stay safe!

    @denniscarreno5882@denniscarreno58829 ай бұрын
    • Hi to Australia!

      @LifeontheMoose@LifeontheMoose9 ай бұрын
  • Nice calm relaxing demeanor, no stress, just enjoying th work and the location!!! Lucky

    @wp4934@wp49349 ай бұрын
    • It’s a wonderful place and I love this work. I’m blessed for sure, but luck has nothing to do with it! Thank you for watching!!

      @LifeontheMoose@LifeontheMoose9 ай бұрын
  • Agreed, I always avoid screwing up!

    @MAGAman-uy7wh@MAGAman-uy7wh3 ай бұрын
  • It's quite entertaining to watch, or more listen to you! I was already a long time wondering why nobody else did the subfloor like you did it.

    @kululv@kululv8 ай бұрын
    • Thanks so much!

      @LifeontheMoose@LifeontheMoose8 ай бұрын
  • Nice floor idea, thanks!

    @michelsavoie6971@michelsavoie69719 ай бұрын
  • Great idea fellow builder bud. If you don’t mind I think I’ll use it in my future cabin builds on my property. Thx pal.

    @dougmoran13@dougmoran139 ай бұрын
  • Looks great and and smart...thanks for your time and sharing.

    @stevencoons450@stevencoons4509 ай бұрын
    • Thank YOU for watching!

      @LifeontheMoose@LifeontheMoose9 ай бұрын
  • You must be doing something right! 1.4 MILLION views in 4 months. I've always told myself: "There should be an easy way to do this!

    @davesanders9203@davesanders92035 ай бұрын
    • I appreciate you watching!

      @LifeontheMoose@LifeontheMoose5 ай бұрын
  • Just saw your video for the first,enjoyed it,look forward to see you work on it again.👍

    @florencecampbell774@florencecampbell7749 ай бұрын
    • Thanks so much!!

      @LifeontheMoose@LifeontheMoose9 ай бұрын
  • Man that land is absolutely beautiful!!

    @micahxrpsec81@micahxrpsec819 ай бұрын
    • Yeah I’m in love with it myself! Thank you for watching!

      @LifeontheMoose@LifeontheMoose9 ай бұрын
  • You did a great job on this video. It was very nice to watch.

    @WilliamKiene-yg7rq@WilliamKiene-yg7rq8 ай бұрын
    • Much appreciated!

      @LifeontheMoose@LifeontheMoose8 ай бұрын
  • Great project… thank you for sharing your knowledge 👏🏻👏🏻

    @jmfarrell5@jmfarrell59 ай бұрын
    • I’m not an expert, just having fun and pointing a few things out along the way. Appreciate your comment and tuning in!

      @LifeontheMoose@LifeontheMoose9 ай бұрын
  • Excellent video. I thoroughly enjoyed it. You remind me of me, working by yourself and making it work. Thanks for sharing. Living in Upstate NY does have its upsides. I thoroughly enjoy them.

    @rockfangd@rockfangd8 ай бұрын
    • That means so much! I appreciate that.

      @LifeontheMoose@LifeontheMoose8 ай бұрын
  • Big pops energy right here. I've been thinking of making an outhouse and I like how you've made it easier, I'll be sure to incorrprate this method for my own base. Thank you :)

    @ddabble@ddabble9 ай бұрын
    • Welcome! 🙏

      @LifeontheMoose@LifeontheMoose9 ай бұрын
  • Exactly what I should have done at my etc Ranch ! Brilliant, estupendo, magnífico....etc etc Bravo!!!!

    @enriquetorrico1423@enriquetorrico14239 ай бұрын
  • Thank you for sharing this tip as I live in a cabin and I'll be using this technique for my add-on

    @neomatrix2722@neomatrix27224 ай бұрын
    • Thank YOU! Let me know how it goes.

      @LifeontheMoose@LifeontheMoose4 ай бұрын
  • 1st time viewer and I have to say, I feel kinda warmly wrapped in wholesome goodness. Thank you.

    @jamesart9@jamesart98 ай бұрын
    • Well that warms me in return! 🙏

      @LifeontheMoose@LifeontheMoose8 ай бұрын
  • What a view. Fantastic

    @jamesboardman7048@jamesboardman70487 ай бұрын
    • I agree! Thanks for tuning in.

      @LifeontheMoose@LifeontheMoose7 ай бұрын
  • I like this idea, and it seems to work great. I think I would've put some 2" insulation board at the bottom, then the insulation bate on top. Good job sir !!!

    @okeechobeejoe2868@okeechobeejoe28689 ай бұрын
    • Thank you!

      @LifeontheMoose@LifeontheMoose9 ай бұрын
  • Just came across your KZhead. Great content and entertaining. 👍🏼

    @dbirchwood3732@dbirchwood37329 ай бұрын
  • Beautiful!

    @johnarizona3820@johnarizona38209 ай бұрын
  • This was an informative watch for me. I learned a few things. And the view you have is stunning. 😍😍

    @wanderingmoon9772@wanderingmoon97728 ай бұрын
    • Yes the view never gets old. 🙏 Thanks so much!

      @LifeontheMoose@LifeontheMoose8 ай бұрын
  • I like how you include us into the video. Its a surprise when you ask hay, do you want to go under the flooring and watch me brace up the joist in the center. Of course we do. We like to see work done under the cabin as well as from the top. Has anyone else has done that? Great Job

    @kindmountainlion5506@kindmountainlion55069 ай бұрын
    • Kind words, I appreciate that!

      @LifeontheMoose@LifeontheMoose9 ай бұрын
  • You seem like a gem of a human. Thanks for making the video!

    @chrisripplinger@chrisripplinger8 ай бұрын
    • Wow that’s an awesome thing to say. Thanks for watching it!

      @LifeontheMoose@LifeontheMoose8 ай бұрын
  • Man you have a great attitude and you are so welcoming and inclusive, i enjoyed watching you create. I would work for you for free, just to learn. Thank you.

    @GIDO74@GIDO748 ай бұрын
    • Wow that’s kind! Watching is helping, and I’ll do what I can to make it worthwhile.

      @LifeontheMoose@LifeontheMoose8 ай бұрын
  • Thank you for showing IN DEPTH how to get a floor done..now if I can find how to build the piling and joists I'll be happy girl!

    @demitaylor8873@demitaylor88739 ай бұрын
    • Be prepared to be happy! I have videos on that. Thank you for watching!

      @LifeontheMoose@LifeontheMoose9 ай бұрын
  • Dang! Look at that view!

    @CheekyMonkey1776@CheekyMonkey17768 ай бұрын
  • I like the spot you put that cabin its beautiful there. I use to insulation for a living and I hate that kind of insulation .

    @user-oq6ub8hs8p@user-oq6ub8hs8p9 ай бұрын
  • I’ve watched a lot of videos on KZhead like this. Foam, and reflectix etc etc. I really like your idea of plywood in the bottom of the floor and I plan to do exactly this on my cabin build. Thank you for the great idea. Definitely will help keep the critters and the wasps out from under our cabin. Subscribed!

    @GarmiOffgrid@GarmiOffgrid7 ай бұрын
    • Ah thanks for watching and subscribing! 🙏

      @LifeontheMoose@LifeontheMoose7 ай бұрын
    • kzhead.info/sun/eJqjlKWwjmh5eaM/bejne.htmlsi=-7A07auzx938jutl

      @GarmiOffgrid@GarmiOffgrid7 ай бұрын
  • Talented too!

    @tomwilson7806@tomwilson78069 ай бұрын
  • This is definitely how I'm going to build mine

    @carlschmiedeke151@carlschmiedeke1518 ай бұрын
  • Another thing you can try is dropping ledger boards on either side of the beams and nail your osb to those. Give you lots of insulation room, and you can metal it as well if you really want to get anti rodent.

    @Maxid1@Maxid18 ай бұрын
  • I’ve been binge watching the building of the cabin, soaking in 3-4 episodes a night. Patrick, you’ve put together something quite unique, it’s really very brilliant. Wrapped up last night with the door install, looking forward to what’s next. Hoping the Buck comes down the hill and lends you a hoof, I’d advise him to if he plans on enjoying the firepit! Ok,…I couldn’t pass it up!! Thanks for the monster effort!!

    @louisesblues@louisesblues3 ай бұрын
    • Hey thank you so much! I really appreciate it! 🙏

      @LifeontheMoose@LifeontheMoose3 ай бұрын
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