Ships Have Unmanned Engine Rooms? | Chief MAKOi
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Some ships are designed to operate with UMS or Unattended Machinery Space.
Chief MAKOi
Seaman Vlog
Some ships are designed to operate with UMS or Unattended Machinery Space.
Chief MAKOi
Seaman Vlog
Hi Mark! Watching your videos reminds me that your ship is an example of the best of human creativity, engineering and initiative. So many working parts in unison, moving something so large! Just think of the largest cargo ships just 50 years ago compared to the Ever Ace. I really admire you, not only for being so highly educated in these complex systems, but also being a teacher for those of us never exposed to your world. Stay safe and Merry Christmas if we don't hear from you before then!
I served on a USN repair ship. USS Markab AR-23 as a MM/3rd class from 1963-65 in the engine room. It had a consolidated engine/boiler room. Typically in port we had 3 men on duty standing 4 & 8(4hr on/8hr off. There was a machinist mate(MM). A boiler technician(BT) and an electricians mate(EM). At sea we had 3(MM'), 3(BT's)boiler technicians, and 1(MMC) Machinist Mate Chief or Machinist mate 1st class. on watch standing 4 hr's on and 4 or 8 hr's off. There wasn't anything on automatic. Lol,
That's the navy for you - mob handed! My first trips to sea in the British Merchant Navy had little or no automation - even the oil and jacket water coolers were manually controlled via the bypass valve. There was a low LO cutout on the main engine and on the generators but that was about it. Now there's too much and you need a PhD in electronics to fault find...
That is what I remember. Two fire rooms and two engine rooms. Many men awake to make sure nothing bad happened. I understand that the newer destroyers have gas turbine engines and generators with lots of automation. The bridge has control over rudder and throttles. Gone are the days of "right standard rudder" and "all engines ahead two thirds." Now it is turn the small knob and push the thrust levers forward two clicks. I don't think the engineering coffee pot has been automated. Maybe they have Keurig machines now. USS Brush DD-745.
Hi Chief Makoi, i am your super fan from year 2019 till now. I learn a lot via your veidos, not only engine room skills but also life at sea.
Thanks!
Great video Chief !!!! You answered all the questions I asked after the last video !!!! Thank you. Makes me wish maybe I'd gone into maritime operations... That is, until you showed that clip of "heavy weather"... Ah, no. I'll stay on land.
Thanks for posting Chief. Excellent content as always 👍
Il capo Makoi è una persona tremenda! È un uomo cattivissimo
Great vlog as always! In a 1974 tv-program about maritime life they showed who this unmanned engine room worked. Keep up the good work. Be safe!
Hi Chief. Another informative video - thanks! The idea of the bridge watchkeeper doing engine room rounds in an unmanned ER would have had most of the Chief Engineers I sailed with (late ‘70s) in a state of apoplexy: an unaccompanied deckie in the ER? No way! They might touch something!
The main idea behind the bridge watchkeeper ending his watch with a (quick) round through the E.R. is to check for any leakages.
Merry Christmas Chief and to your crew
I like having someone who can hear, smell, and see abnormal conditions before they cause an alarm. But I also understand the desire to run with as few crewmembers as possible. Just because it CAN be automated, doesn't necessarily mean it SHOULD be. (speaking as an Automation Specialist!)
Cheif. You're always a delight to watch. Always so informative! And a super nice fella.
Thanks and bye from Italy!
Good stuff Chief. Safe travels to you and the crew.
Very interesting. A rewarding occupation and difficult work and at times hazardous. Thanks to all seafarers for what they do. They are the lifelines to the world’s well being.
Thanks Chief
Thanks for another great video, Chief!
Well done Chief. Thanks 🇺🇸
Thanks mate
chief! thanks, you are awesome!
Another interesting and informative vlog Chief. Have a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year from Portsmouth, UK, wherever you are at the moment.
I like the way you explain the hierarchy and duties expected before they call you in when it’s critical !
Love the channel! Very informative and interesting. Thank you for your attention to detail and the time it takes to record and edit videos!!
All your information is top notch and informative thank you.
Great video chief!!!! Super informative!! Keep them coming
Thanks Chief!
Just like the military in many ways. There is so much that could go wrong - but that seems rare. Thanks for the video Chief and thanks to your crew.
Good stuff as always Chief.
The hair looks great this time.
Another great inside look at operations aboard, most interesting, many thanks! Be well, be safe!
Thanks very much. I have often wondered about this.
The first time I walked into an engine room like this I was “where is everyone” and was amazed that it was all monitored from a control room or else where on the ship. Chief why are so many engine rooms painted what I call institutional green, I’ve seen the same color in government “ institutions“ while working in them.
This has been investigated by scientists and what I learned when I started as a marine engineer in 1978 that it is more easy to the eyes.
Great question ty for asking it👍
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I thought maybe it’s because that colour paint is very cheap😃
It's called "Maunsell B/G" (Blue/Green) I seem to remember. I first saw it on Japanese built ships in the 70s, where UK ships were generally grey. I think it's now a universal colour in the Japan, Korea and China shipbuilding industry. I've seen ships in other colours like white, a plain green, and beige, but not common.
Thanks for sharing this Chief, you gave a lot of good information.
Thanks a bunch Chief I look so forward to your Sat video's and interacting you you and your subs. Take care and stay safe and hopefully you and your crew will be on dry land for the holidays. Hey there is a great story idea what do you think?👍
Lookin good Chief, keep up the good work!
Hello chief. I live in a landlocked country. Never been on a ship. I enjoy watching your videos which are so inspirational. I appreciate what you guys do for the global economy. Keep up the good work.
Thanks for the informative video.🙏💐
Thanks for the excellent explanation cpt lilo
Very interesting thanks for explaining.
Great videos chief, thanks for that. I finished maritime school for marine engineering but unfortunately never done that.
Thank you for the video!
Thank you for posting this great series of video's on your channel Chief . I'm wondering if you loose skilled people at every level when automation replaces the old school training system . It's been my experience with your team concept and leadership everyone from the basic jobs to the technology jobs has a chance to advance . Trusted leadership is the key to productive safe working environments.
Thanks Chief for a very interesting and informative video!! 6:23
many thanks. it takes a lot of great people to make this world work better. we all benefit.
Your vlogs are always very informative, thanking you
All respect chief
very interesting and informative!
Great channel, very informative and entertaining
Good brief. Thanks
More interesting stuff, Thanks. I always learn something new from your videos, I don't have sea legs but I always find your stuff informative. It's getting close to "that time of year" A Very merry Christmas to you, looking forward to what the new year brings. Cheers from Australia ! 👍
Hi Chief, once again thanks for the amazing information about the shipping operations. Very informative video,good job
excellent work, good joib!
Dog gone it Chief I would love to work for you, even as an apprentice oiler. The problem is that I'm 70 years old and not in the best of health. Secondly I was born and grew up in the United States. The food is totally different. Finally I don't speak the language and could not communicate with my coworkers although you speak English better than I do! Thanks for your service. I look forward to each and every video. Chris in Tucson AZ., United States
Great content as always! 400K subscribers is just a few away!😁
Hope to see new uploads soon!
Very informative and interesting for me. A civilian.
thank you😁
Nice video idol.shout out chief rbc tv.
Ya I hear ya I will stick to fixing big trucks on dry land 👍
Great channel by the way your vid on cargo that can sink ships had a question on that on really great vid
Chief thanks for the great vids. Have you done an episode on time zones? How do you adjust the clocks? Are you subjected to any type of “jet” lag? 🇧🇷
I love your content. How about showing some of the ports u visit. My dad was a navigator on the old EC121 Super Constellation . He loved to travel and see the world. He taught new navigators their trade so when he flew a training mission he could pick the destination as long as it was Air Force friendly. He loved Spain and Germany
I like your vedios
In 1985 our ships engine room had an unmanned system. We had a normal dayshift working hours (a 9 to 5 ) but the duty schedule was always in place. After 5 the alarm goes to the duty engineers cabin. At 11 pm the duty engineer goes down to the engineroom and makes his inspection and then goes back to his cabin. Engineers alarm: every engineer down to engine room. Usually big mishap. In '85 i was fresh onboard (apprentice year) and nobody explains theae things, of course. And i ignored the engineers alarm. Turned out the generator's speed governor defuncted and caused a blackout.
Hello marko ,seasons greetings merry Christmas and a safe happy new year to you and your family ,
I was going to ask how old you are Chief only because the the wealth of your knowledge is incredible and does age really make a difference. In saying that I have a question and please forgive me if you have already covered it. I know that in most countries a truck driver can only legally drive a certain amount of hours. On duty is what they call it and then they are forced into rest time. Don't quote me exactly I'm a mechanic not a driver that rest time can't be taken in the seat. They have to actually get out of the seat to rest. Just to clarify a driver can't just pull over and put his or her head on the steering wheel. There must be laws in place for that no? I want to wrap up my question with a comment. It baffles me that a 75 year old man or lady can just jump in their house (Motor home or coach for the one's that have to say it that way lol) and drive accros the entire country with no restrictions. It's literally like jumping into your home and driving it down the highway at 70mph 120km for us north of the border. I'm sure everyone has seen an accident involving one. They make a mess. After all jump in your house and hit a bridge and tell me what it looks like. We stopped using wood to make vehicles a very long time ago and I would have to think that it's the biggest reason why it changed. I do apologize for my ramblings. Take care all and "Keep it RUBBER side down" Cmon 10-4 there driver 👍
Interesting to compare to how U.S. Navy ships operate (or at least how they did in the 80's and 90's on Spruance Class Destroyers and Ticonderoga Class Cruisers) Underway we had one Engine Room Operator and one Engine Room Monitor on watch at all times in each of our two engine rooms. In addition there was a minimum of 3 watch standers in the Central Control Station, one which managed the propulsion and auxiliary systems, one to manage the electrical plant and one Engineering Officer Of the Watch who was in charge of all things engineering. Most of the time there were 3 duty sections with each section standing watch for 4 hours at a time twice a day, if there was a shortage of qualified watch standers you'd need to go "port and starboard" with (usually) 4 hours on 4 hours off which as you can imagine was pretty miserable. During General Quarters (battle stations), Sea & Anchor (going in or out of port), Underway Replenishment or Restricted Maneuvering (operating in a river or in crowded sea lanes) there were many more watches that needed to be manned with almost everybody in the ~60 person engineering department having an assigned watch station.
UMS has been around a few years. I stood by a new builds (3) in Japan 1974 and 1975 the last one was Bubiyan. Owned and operated by A.M.P.T.C. All classed as UMS. They do about 4-6 weeks on normal watches and then if satisfactory Status is achieved moved over to UMS. We did have issues with some of the automation. I left the merchant navy in 1980 to work ashore. Technology has advanced a lot since then so I am assuming UMS operation is more reliable, I hope so.
Hello Chief, Your channel is very informative and I enjoy each video. I have learned a lot. Couple of questions if I may ask. Do you have a favorite type of ship you prefer to be on? A bulk ship, tanker, container ship, or any other type? Is there a particular engine that you like. Wartsilla, MAN, Caterpillar, MAK, Fairbanks Morse, Colt-Pielstick, Anglo Belgium Corporation (ABC). Thank you for taking the time to show the world what your profession entails.
I am reminded of a Rudyard Kipling poem about a chief engineer. Google for McAndrew's Hymn, back from the days of reciprocating steam engines. However, I doubt Chief MAKOi will be drinking Madeira with three earls, with their yachting caps.
WOW!
In the near future, AL will be working in the engine room.
2:55 Shitters full Chief.
Say, the ships going down, knowing that staff are deep in the ships hull, How aret they notified to abandon ship and is there a fast way to exit safely?
By the general emergency alarm system. And there are mandatory escape trunks in the E.R. / E.C.R. / steeringgear room
I liked your previous way of vlogging, the current template is too short to fully enjoy
I’ve been on a unmanned ship way back 1989 a different feeling but good to all engine personnel the only thing they do is to watch and ready for everything what gonna happen
greetings B j Slovenia
This is all very interesting if you’re writing a book about nefarious sailors trying to sneak into engine rooms to do maintenance
As a marine engr chief .para sa opinion ko mas safety ung mga Korean made vessel ngayon Lalo n gwang Hyundai .compare sa mga japanese made .
I think it would be wonderful to be a passenger on a cross ocean route.
I remember when we had a big Norburg we attended it all the time you kids probably don’t even know what that is. I doubt they make them anymore. That was 50 years ago.
You mean the Nordberg radial engine Lumberjack?
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My last reefer ship was unmanned but all engineers room have monitors I’m new to that situation so need learn the new system mostly during preparation for arrival at port because all engineers must be on the bridge
Sir, kindly make vedio operation and maintenance of Boiler, OWS & overall of compressor.
My first ship in 1973 only had two engine room alarms, a bilge and a purifier Everything was done handomatic, jw temp and lo temps, and even the boiler level feed was not automated There was no control room and all engine maneuvers was done at the side of the engine (Doxford) It might seem a bit prehistoric today but it was an excellent way of understanding all the ships systems which unfortunately today too many engineers just leave to automation and don't pay attention to what's really going on
My thoughts and experience exactly...
Please can you explain all the different decals on the doors
Good day chief..may you explain more about engine or website for i learn.
do they always escalate to the CE, or would there be situations where they might just get the 1E instead?
Normally the C/E, but there are also (emergency) situations that one just pushes the button marked: “call engineers”
Question. During storms do oil level shut down devices get switched off. So rolls don't cause main engine shut downs. Would an external oil container like a dry sump oiling system so the engine oil main pressure pump feeds from that external reserve. Is at least one generator installed on a gimbel so the ship rolling to any angle cannot shut off that generator.
I can answer your good questions as I was at sea for 18 years, the last 8 as Chief. No, the alarms for low oil level are never switched off - in fact there's no means for doing so. Marine engines under Class Rules have to withstand certain roll and pitch angles to ensure they keep going. From memory it's 22° roll and 5° pitch, but a long time since I last checked. The near disaster with Viking Sky nearly going aground was that the sumps were at a very low level - around 22% I think, whereas the manufacturer states around 75-80% of the full level as a minimum. Most engines on ships are dry sump (as was Viking Sky) for that very reason, as a wet sump is usually very long and shallow, whereas a dry sump can be made deeper and with less beam and baffles to limit surge in a seaway. No, generators aren't on gimbals for the Rules and reasons above, along with the difficulty of providing services to the engine through flexibles, which would have to be very long. Flexibles are fitted between engines and the ship, but are always short and have to be Class Type Approved.
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During in room operation does the engineers employ in-ear comms and hearing protection?
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Hello Chief
Many years 12--4 watches as a 3😮 round and around the world😉 now retired😆
What qualifications make an "Able Bodies Seaman" is that the equivalent of a general laborer?
Chief, my wife had a great question which is seasickness. Does it happen? Is it common? Thanks!
Why do engine rooms always seem to be painted green?
I would imagine you would have to have people in the engine room to look over the equipment while it’s running checking on it time to time for leaks because fires in an engine room are disastrous and you as a engineer should know that. Even in cruise ships there’s people in the engine room at all times. There have been quite a few engine fires that were disastrous some bigger than others. But technically wise yeah you could run an engine room with nobody in it. Just like you can run the whole ship from the engine room. Without having anyone in the Wheelhouse. Matter fact the Mersk that was boarded by pirates they were gonna run the ship from the engine room and lock out the Pirates but for some reason they didn’t.
Hi chief my son is thinking about going to Massachusetts maritime academy what do you think of that school do you work with any graduates
Is there a regulations concerning manning requirements for manned vs unmanned engine room?
Good question! The answer is; Yes. That is stated on the Minimum Safe Manning Certificate issued by the flagstate of the vessel. No UMS notation from the class society? More engineers.
You are Chief should do like a game show type of thing on ships and daily operations. Please no disrespect in the slightest I think it's great and I enjoy each and every bit of knowledge I pick up on a Saturday morning over a coffee. As long as that information is legit and it certainly appears to be. There is so much bad information out there these days you don't know what to believe. Mind you common sense goes a long way these days and if you ask me even more so now. Thanks to all involved 👍
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@@janvisser2223 Sorry you and Chief is what I meant to say. I'm sure that common sense would have told you what I meant to say 👍
@@nvragn Yes, I did understand what you meant. I always like to watch the vlogs of c/e Makoi as everything is so recognizable. Answering some of the questions is kinda fun. And hopefully saving some time for our host.
Is there any regulation on the maximum time the ER should be on UMS. T.Y.
The question should be: the maximum time the E.R. cán be on UMS. This depends on the rate of automation the owner has invested in. In practice its 12 hrs.